WEBVTT - What REALLY happened with the BYD Shark controversy 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.880 The Driver's Show powered by in a midsoon Nano Taylor 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.400 to Oil over a century of engineering excellence meets cutting 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.440 edge nano scale technology. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.440 In a Driver's Show special. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.320 This this is the Paveley Report. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.480 So should we give just everyone in the room a 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.800 few minutes just to hit record. We've got a lot 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.160 of lawyers present, and I know. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:30.720 Fox Second transcribing this at the. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:41.760 Moment, Yes, Daniel, Sorry, obviously there's a multiple members of 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:47.480 our legal team here. Toadfish from Neighbors, thanks for coming along, 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.320 the bald guy from Law and Order, cheers, Buddy, the 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.880 lady from Channel nine. Ye, thanks for that, a lady 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:58.040 from Channel just Channel nine. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.360 So today we're going to be chatting by D Shark 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.000 and the controversy along with the other plug in hybrid 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:06.040 uts that are coming. 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.560 So now a bit of backstory, right, So BYD released 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.800 their Shark six. There's a lot of excitement about this 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.360 as we record right now, you can definitely place on 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.280 an order. They are starting to deliver them, possibly to 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.000 custom it up in Brisbane. As in the last week 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.080 or so, Paul, you put out a video for your 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:31.000 review and it's rubbed a few people the wrong way. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:32.160 Let's explain why. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.240 So the collective. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.000 Videos that we've now published have over a midion views, 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:41.800 so they've been very widely watched. So backstory is, as 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.760 the Shark was getting released, we contacted bid on a 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.960 number of occasions asking if we could borrow one to 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.919 drive at the proving ground because they had an influencer 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.840 event at like an off road thing, and then they 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.680 had another event at Broken Hill where they were doing 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:57.919 the national launch. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.240 Yes, so the launch was a Broken Hill and what 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:01.640 was this other influencer event. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.120 Some of the influencer event was that during the time 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.280 of the launch, no beforehand, several weeks beforehand, so they 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.919 kept telling me, no, you can't have a car because 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.720 they're not eight R complied yet. And I was like, okay, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.240 fair enough. I guess that just means you can't drive 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:18.919 it on a public road. And they're like, yep, can't 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.000 do that. I was like fair enough. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.760 And anyway, so we're passionately waiting and as the event 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:29.160 for Broken Hill was coming up, I. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:35.160 Started receiving countless emails from these influencer agencies asking me 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.440 to attend and to produce video content and how much my. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.120 Fee would be and they are real Yeah, one hundred percent. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.080 I get these a lot from different organizations, but this 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.079 one was specifically for that launch. They talked about Broken Hill. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.160 They wanted to know what I was going to produce, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.440 how much I was going to charge, And I replied 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.480 and said, no, I'm not interested. We already have someone 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.320 going to cover it as a journalist. I'm not going 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.440 to attend now as well, and I definitely am not 0:02:58.480 --> 0:02:59.920 going to accept money to attend. 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.760 And so the journalists who attended to Big Clear was 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.640 not paid, no, just by byd to be there. They 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.880 were paid as a journalist from Currents. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.600 The same way that we would cover any other event 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.359 and anyway. I then started getting more emails, and as 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.720 the event drew near, I got an email with an 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.040 offer for forty thousand dollars to attend this event, and 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.880 I'm like, what the fuck is this? So I was like, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.400 all right, that's weird, and I replied again, and I'd 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.520 replied like three or four times by this point. They 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.040 kept coming from different people and different agencies. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.079 So before that email with the forty grands, did you 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.839 get you did get offers of money to be there? 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.960 Yeah, they were asking how much I wanted to charge 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.400 so anyway, ignored all of those the event went ahead 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.600 and didn't think anything of it. I then got in 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.080 touch with someone senior at BYD who said, hey, we've 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.320 got a car that we can give you. It's a 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.000 pre production car and I said, no, dramas, let me 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.440 know where I can pick it up. And they go, well, 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.480 it's not registered and we don't have eight R compliance yet. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.320 And I'm like, okay, so what does that mean. They go, well, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.160 it needs to be transported there. So our expense car 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.920 expense expense. I hired a tow truck and towed the 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.280 car from Clayton where it was located, to. 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:06.840 The proven ground. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.040 Unfortunately, we got rained out that day so we couldn't 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.360 film anything. So I towed the car back to some 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.280 third party supply that BOID was doing business with, and 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.679 one or two weeks later, when the car was available again, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.760 I again paid to have the car towed out to 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.280 the proving ground and it was picked up, this time 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.520 from another aftermarket company that was getting components for it. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.279 Okay, can I just say, can I pull you up 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.360 on that? Let me press pause on what that actually is, 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:34.560 because you're on your expense paying for that car to 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:39.880 be transported after you use it to potentially a manufacturer fit. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.560 Out company, very company of something. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.240 It's obviously doing work on this car, and that was 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.080 only your dime. Yeah, which interesting. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:48.360 The car had to go somewhere, so I would have 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.520 had to pay to either take it back to wherever 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:51.280 their place is. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.560 Good point, but I was like a bit weird. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.719 But whatever, I'll just do it. So anyway, when we 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.000 shot the content, the outcome of it was I thought 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.800 the car was fantastic, excellent value for money, great tech, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.680 and I was only limited to being able to drive 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.440 it at the proving ground. So we did our off 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.000 road review and discovered that it wasn't able to climb 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:16.039 our fairly basic hill climb on our very like soft 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.719 off road course, which is what we call it. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:18.920 It's like a light off road thing. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:24.000 And it really struggled with rotating its wheels going up 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.680 the hill. And I thought that perhaps it could be 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.719 talk limited, or perhaps the traction control wasn't quite advanced. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.400 Tried a number of different modes. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:31.880 Yeah, so I was going to say, you did try 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.200 the I do laugh at the different modes. Sand. What 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.039 is it like? Muddy land? Yeah, muddy land? Sand Land 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.400 Kyle Candy Land. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.000 So tried, tried the different modes and didn't really have 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.599 much success, and I was like, Yep, no dramas. The 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.000 next day we filmed more content, this time a towing video, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.560 and when we did towing with the vehicle hooked up 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.200 to the trailer dine, we ended up getting to the 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.760 point where we had drained the batter to the point 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.360 where it had reached its reserve limit. And one of 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.800 the things people don't really understand with plug in hybrids. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.680 If you drive an outland a plug in hybrid, when 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.160 it says the battery is empty, the battery isn't actually empty. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.080 It's probably got between zero and twenty percent of capacity 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.640 still remaining in there, and it needs to have that 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.839 capacity because a lot of these plug in hybrids, and 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.400 the shark especially needs electricity to move from a standing 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.400 start that the internal combustion engine cannot drive those wheels 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.960 directly until it's up to a certain speed. 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.400 So those internal combustion engines they kind of act like 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:36.880 generators to feed the battery. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.960 Yeah, in the case of the shark, it does so 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.679 it's basically charging the battery and its speeds of above 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.560 seventy k's an hour, it can directly drive the front axle. 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:46.960 So when we were towing with the trailer dine set 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.479 at three killer utons, which is what we do for 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.960 every car that we test with that trailer dine, we 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.800 found that when the battery got down to that reserve 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.000 started slowing from one hundred k's an hour down to 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.400 about seventy and no matter how hard you hit the 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.760 throttle wouldn't go any faster than seventy. It was basically 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.680 fully exhausted and that was as fast as it was 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.920 going to go. So anyway, we published all these videos 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.120 and then we published follow up videos about why we. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.920 Thought perhaps the thing wasn't working. 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.360 Thinking that it could be software related or potentially it 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.960 was talk limited because this vehicle doesn't have any stepped gears, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.040 so you are limited to the amount of talk that 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.280 you can produce from those motors, and when you're on 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.400 an incline and you have like the horizontal force of 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.760 gravity acting against the car, it is limited in terms 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.160 of where it can go. So anyway, we published follow 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.920 up videos and basically after those follow up videos, a 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.800 number of funny things happened. So our mate Kudoaks, who's 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.480 been on the show before. He published some hilarious videos 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.240 of his own where he was quite critical of the 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.200 stuff that I had deduced, and he came up with 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.960 some ghetto maths on why he pled testing was irrelevant. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:55.480 Now I did. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.680 A couple of weeks later, I stumbled across these videos. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.240 Someone sent them to me, and I was like, oh, okay, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.840 that's interesting, and I'm like, look, if I'm wrong, happy 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.240 to be wrong, happy to say yep, did a bad thing, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.640 We'll fix it. And anyway, I started doing the mats 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.960 on my own because both John and I have engineering degrees, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.840 and we both are obviously great engineers, not working in 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.360 engineering and haven't worked in engineering. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:21.440 For He's mostly great, You are not amazing. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.600 So anyway, I started doing all the mats and I'm like, 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.840 he's completely muffed all of this stuff up. I think 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.240 that's the way that he's viewed the problem is wrong, 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.000 and as a result, he's out by factor about one 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.520 hundred percent based on what I could tell. So I 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.800 actually met up with him today. We shot a couple 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.160 of videos. So they're going to go live. Perhaps they've 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.200 already gone live, I don't know, But go to the 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.600 Auto Expert channel, there's one on his and then there's 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.040 going to be one on the Car Expert channel, so 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.880 check those out in the interim as well. What had 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:54.200 happened was Bid went back to the proving ground and 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.040 it's funny, the proven ground is actually where they shot 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.160 the commercial for the Bid Shark. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.320 So can you read this proven ground that you go 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.640 to because I always thought that you guys just had 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.880 access to it whenever you would be renting it or something, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.840 so obviously can be rented by anyone. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.120 Yeah, so when we're there, we're typically sharing it with 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.600 other brands and other people testing new cars and whatever. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.360 But then if they're shooting a commercial, they'll basically book 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.480 the place out and then shoot like a proper commercial. 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.920 And the funniest part is that in the commercial it 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.920 actually traverses the hill, but it goes down the hill. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.400 Yeah, right, like had you have tried to turn around 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.520 and given that again. Yeah. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.440 So anyway, BYD came back to the proving ground and 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.360 I suspect it was with revised software and they sent 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.599 a video to the bid Owners group that showed Facebook 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.440 vehicle going up the hill without any problems or like 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:44.440 a little bit of wheel slip. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:45.040 But no problems. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.880 We presume it's it's BYD he sent that face. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:52.319 I think they mentioned the cause, so anyway, what they 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.120 neglected to mention, And I don't know whether it was 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.760 BID that requested this, It wasn't us, And as far 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.559 as I could tell, no one had u the proving 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.440 ground since we were there with the shark. We came 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.040 back two weeks later to review the Prato with the 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.520 Prato Kakadu, and I thought it was really odd at 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.960 that point BID hadn't sent the video to the owners group. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.920 We got there and I'm like, something has changed here, 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.880 and they had basically compacted the hill and put like 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.480 a really hard compound on it, which meant that when 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.920 I drove up it in the Prado, it was literally 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.600 like just going up a driveway. It had no wheel slip. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.120 It just went up without any problems. And I'm like, well, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.320 this is going to look terrible on video because we 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.440 went from having quite a struggle on the hill because 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:38.640 it was quite rutted and really good vision to now 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.720 having this hill that you could probably walk up. And 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.320 so I basically dug the hill open again with the 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.240 Prato so that it looked impressive on video and anyway 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.920 went on with life. Then when Bid dropped that video, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.120 I'm like, hold up a second, that's a totally different 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.560 hill to the one that we tested on. And I thought, look, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.720 if you have changed the software, great, it means it'll 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.960 go up there without problems. And I'm going to go 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.440 back and test it at some point. But if you 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.320 have asked them to compact the hill, what is the 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.800 purpose of what you're doing? You know, it's is it 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:15.280 to discredit me? Or is it that I don't understand 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:16.880 it to be honest? And maybe and this is the 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.880 other thing, maybe they didn't ask for it to be done. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.760 Maybe this was just something that they've decided to do. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.960 Maybe I hadn't done it for since we've been using 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:26.000 it for two or three years. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:27.640 So that's why I thought it was just a little 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:28.040 bit weird. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.839 Well, look, I mean it could take somebody going, can 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.600 you guys maintain the grounds of this a little bit? Like, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.520 what the what the fuck is going on? This car 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.000 is capable of doing such things, but can you at 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:39.040 least like, don't. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.480 I don't know what happened. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:44.600 So anyway, so I have said already that I would 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.959 love to go take the car back again with production 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.720 software and test it all one more time. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.560 It's presumably been given several updates. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.439 Yeah, and the other thing just very quickly. That really 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.720 annoyed me. When we did our review, I mentioned the 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.040 stuff about all the emails I received on influences in 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.160 the review. Now, I only did that because we were getting, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.160 I reckon three or four comments a day from people going, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.280 where's your shark review? Are you getting paid by Toyota? 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.000 Are you getting paid by Ford to not review it? 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.920 Are you getting paid by blah blah blah blah blah. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.119 And I'm like, for fox. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.120 Sake, we're not reviewing it because they haven't given us 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.800 a car. I could just materialize a car. So in 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.120 the video, I said, hey, the reason we hadn't reviewed 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.400 it is because I didn't want to go to Broken Hill, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.360 to some curated place that they've set up to make 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.120 the car look good. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.440 But also, you did send a journalist there, yeah, two 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.880 Broken Hill, and they would have got car content out 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.360 of that and somewhat of a review anyway. But I 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.800 guess they just wanted to see your typical review on it. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.880 And from a video standpoint, it is our rule to 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:44.640 just review cars at the proving ground. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:45.679 That way, they're all the same. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.040 I don't want to go to some different location every 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.960 time to have conditions I don't know. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.079 So I mentioned also that would create bias as well. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.280 Ye, so I mentioned in that video about being off 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.000 at all this money, and that given the volume of 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.760 people that attended, I hadn't noticed anyone except one outlet, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.840 which was car Source, which is a YouTube channel. They 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.000 were paid to be there. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.920 And then come to the party and told everyone they 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.360 the thing they said in their thing that it's sponsored. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.000 Yep, And look, if you choose to believe what they say, great, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.400 I wouldn't if you're paid to be there. I mean, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.800 of course you're going to say only great things. But 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.120 the thing that annoyed me was that when I was 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.880 told that because the cars don't have ADR complains, you 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.640 can't drive them on a public road. Car Sales drove 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.200 the car from Broken Hill to Adelaide on clearly public roads. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.720 Car Source drove the car on public roads. There's shots 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.440 of them doing that on their own in the car. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.280 So that kind of annoyed me that I was misled 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.880 with that information. So I basically had these people call 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.960 me up the day after the review went live, chewing 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:52.600 my ass out about these influencer things, claiming they knew 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.640 nothing about it, and I'm like, I don't know if 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.080 I believe that, but I mean. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.600 That could very well be the case. However, I will say, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:04.520 like the the influencer payment thing, would they have that 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.840 sort of money to give the like there was a 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.400 lot of people at that event. That's a lot of 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.280 money to be spending on to get people down. I reckon, like, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.559 you fly generally with these press junkets. You fly people 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.840 and you put them up in hotels, and a lot 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.600 of these younger influencers just want to fucking want the 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.640 content anyway, do you know what I mean. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:28.160 I'm not the one sending the emails. So so yeah, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:32.880 that was that was the by d Shark. So yeah, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.400 it's it's an interesting thing because I'm just disappointed that 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.480 it turned out the way that it did. We review 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.120 every car the same and the funniest thing as well 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.440 as I if I did have some inherent bias against 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.400 we filmed drag race with my Raptor, wouldn't I just 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.400 let the Raptor win the drag. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.560 Race and just go oh slower than a raptor. That's 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:51.760 that done. You know what I mean. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.240 It's just it's just a bit silly when you get 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.160 fanboys involved because they're so wetted onto the product they 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:58.240 won't take criticism. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.280 Well, yes, here's here's what I'll say. I think this 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.840 audience is an audience that either love the Shark six 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.720 or hate the Sharks. The Shark six, I think you're 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.760 going to get people who go, oh, bloody, bloody EV 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.200 looks like a shitty EV hybrid, bloody Chinese car. Like 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.200 You'll get that crowd, and you'll also get families who go, wow, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.000 that's a really nice looking car. Paul said, it's got 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.200 good tech. It does look really good. I love the 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.480 stuff that's inside that. I love the fact that I 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.040 can put my kids in the back of this and 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.000 you know, we can go on adventures. Sixty thousand dollars. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.520 That is the big selling point of this car. Sixty 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:40.280 thousand dollars, right, And you get you get people out 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.120 in the as we sort of briefly spoken about. You 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:44.960 get people out in the West or whatever who like 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.040 put their money on something like this. They're going to 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.200 be passionate about it. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.640 Look, and I said something like you know, ninety percent 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.320 of people that buy this it will be perfect for Yeah, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.040 if you don't toe much and you don't go off road, 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.400 yes much. Yes, this is going to be ideal because 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:00.800 you can basically everything with it. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.040 Here's the thing too, people who do toe and people 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.760 who do go off road will not buy this car automatically. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.600 They will not. They've got their things that they're going 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:11.040 to buy. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.280 But they also shouldn't. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.120 The reason I say they shouldn't is because the other 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:19.320 two vehicles in this segment and how inherently different their 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.520 drive trains are. So GWM is about to launch the 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:26.520 Cannon Alpha HI four dash T plug in Hybrid EV, 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.120 which is basically a plug in hybrid electric version of 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.840 the Cannon Alpha. That and the Ford Ranger plug in 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.560 Hybrid are both fundamentally different in terms of the way 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.320 they operate. So where the Shark has a generator and 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.000 two electric motors that have no drive line between them, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.640 both the Cannon and the Ranger have an electric motor 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.680 that sandwiched between the engine and the transmission. So the 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.960 way that it works is your electric motor is able 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:58.200 to turn independent of the engine if it needs to, 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.040 so you can basically use that to drive the car. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.320 And in the case of the Cannon, al for it 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.880 has an enormous battery something like thirty seven kilo whatde hours, 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.080 which is bigger than the Shark, and almost three times 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.520 the size of the Ranger, which has a pretty pathetically 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:16.000 small battery in comparison. Now, the advantage of having the 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.240 rest of your drive line being the same is that 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.640 you have a gearbox, which means you can multiply talk. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:25.000 So fuck this knoto is going right through me. So 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.280 the advantage of that is that with the Cannon or 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.639 the Ranger, if you are making let's say four hundred 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.920 meters of talk at the crank, you are basically able 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.720 to multiply that through a transmission. You're able to multiply 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.399 that through a low range transfer case, and finally a 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.280 diff and in the case of a Ranger raptor because 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.600 they publish this information, you can have a maximum crawl 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.879 ratio of something like sixty to one, which is enormous, right, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.639 which in a Shark you can't because you have no 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.840 reduction gear, you have no difflock, you have none of that. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.280 Whereas this GWM not only has a transmission, low range, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.600 has a front and rear diff lock, and it means 0:17:58.640 --> 0:17:59.960 you're going to be able to do some pretty seria 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.159 off roading. When it comes to towing, you're going to 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:03.720 be able to engine break, which you can't do in 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.000 the Shark. So there are a lot of advantages to 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.879 having these different types of drive lines. And in the 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.160 case of the GWM, we're talking about over three hundred 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.200 oh sorry, three hundred kilos of power seven hundred and 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.399 fifty meters of talk has a two liter engine instead 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.760 of one point five. The range is even bigger again 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.400 with a two point three lead vehicle to load capability, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.200 and the big thing with the GWM three and a 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.960 half tons towing, which again two and a half for 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:29.399 the Shark. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.400 Yeah, looks good price range. I guess we're presuming it's 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:35.640 going to be similar. 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:36.400 Yeah, I reckon. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.800 They'll need to have it around the price of a 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.280 Shark for them to be competitive. Ford, I think is 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.159 probably going to be twenty or thirty thousand dollars more, 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.280