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Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello, well,
Speaker 1: welcome to The Unplayable Podcast. It's been a big week
Speaker 1: in cricket. My name is josh Ona Finger, Caine Richardson's
Speaker 1: here as always and well we've got a couple of
Speaker 1: domestic finals to look forward to now with the Sheffield
Speaker 1: Shield and the WNCL final set.
Speaker 2: It's coming to the end of the cricket season.
Speaker 3: Mate, it is. We've said for a few weeks it's
Speaker 3: a trophy season. We've had one given out in the
Speaker 3: past week, have winced into our last pod, so yeah,
Speaker 3: that starts to get the flavor of this month going.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's one of those times a year where
Speaker 3: most teams are disappointed and probably happy the seasons are finishing,
Speaker 3: but also for a couple of lucky teams they've got
Speaker 3: something to play for now on this next week. So
Speaker 3: always an exciting time of the year it is.
Speaker 1: And lots of different states represented as well.
Speaker 2: This season.
Speaker 1: We had obviously New South Wales and Tasmania in that
Speaker 1: One Day Cup final which New South Wales one Victoria
Speaker 1: South Australia and in the Sheffield Shield Final, and New South
Speaker 1: Wales and Queensland in the WNCL finals, so lots to
Speaker 1: look forward to.
Speaker 2: Will preview those finals as well.
Speaker 1: We've also got Michael Bevin an interview coming up with
Speaker 1: the great domestic and international cricketer.
Speaker 2: He did it all in the Bevo and he's coming
Speaker 2: up very shortly.
Speaker 3: He did it suits the theme perfectly, Josh. So you
Speaker 3: put in these it's no accident when you put these
Speaker 3: shows together, the quality of guests, you get to supplement
Speaker 3: the topic conversation that we have for the rest of
Speaker 3: the program. But do we want a weekly winner.
Speaker 2: I think we should get into the weekly We should.
Speaker 3: It's one again the category that we're talking about, people
Speaker 3: who win. We're talking about trophies, we're talking about winning.
Speaker 3: So weekly winner, I'm going to give mine to Greg Shippin,
Speaker 3: who's waken up today. As you know, he's no longer
Speaker 3: a coach of New South Wales the Sydney Six's. He's
Speaker 3: waking up probably feeling pretty good, you know, he's a
Speaker 3: free man. He can do whatever he wants today. He
Speaker 3: doesn't have to organize a training session or return any
Speaker 3: calls to some guys who maybe have him in picked.
Speaker 3: So end of his well, I assume he's not going
Speaker 3: to coach next season at any I mean he's available.
Speaker 3: But what a career tas he for eleven seasons to
Speaker 3: begin he went to Victoria, his home state. Four Shefford
Speaker 3: Shield titles there, a One Day Cup and four Big
Speaker 3: Bash Old Big Bash titles. With Victoria, he goes to
Speaker 3: the Way. He's the inaugural coach to the Melbourne Stars.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately they've well, no one's managed to win a trophy
Speaker 3: for the Modern Stars fortunately unfortunately. And then the Sydney
Speaker 3: Sixers for eleven seasons, two trophies. He was an IPL coach,
Speaker 3: and then he finishes his career at Cricket New South
Speaker 3: Wales with a One Day Cup over I think it
Speaker 3: was three or four seasons there, So we're talking he's
Speaker 3: well over ten domestic trophies, isn't it for someone of
Speaker 3: that that career? So to him weekly win well deserved.
Speaker 3: You can have a beer tonight and maybe reflect on
Speaker 3: all that success that he's had over the journey, but
Speaker 3: also his tentacles as a coach of you know, the
Speaker 3: people that have grown up playing under him are now
Speaker 3: head coaches themselves. And Andrew McDonald been probably the highest
Speaker 3: profile one of those. So whether or not he continues
Speaker 3: on as a coach, his proteges are now moving up
Speaker 3: through the ranks, aren't they. So his impact on Australian
Speaker 3: cricket will live on.
Speaker 1: And he went into coaching pretty quickly after his playing
Speaker 1: career for Tasmania, believe, similar to Adam Bogis actually, so
Speaker 1: maybe we're seeing a bit of a pattern there. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Shippy was also involved in I think maybe four losing
Speaker 1: Big Bash finals as well, so not far off, you know,
Speaker 1: having an even wider trophy cabinet there.
Speaker 3: It could have been double almost, which is unheard of.
Speaker 3: So yeah, an almost unrivaled coaching career. But as I said,
Speaker 3: his legacy will live on through you know, the Andrew
Speaker 3: McDonald's cam Whites that's been David Hussey has been a
Speaker 3: Big Bash coach over the year, Brad Hodge's coach throughout
Speaker 3: the world as well, so that that powerful Victorian team
Speaker 3: that he was the mastermind of, you know, you're seeing
Speaker 3: that impact of that team and his work kind of
Speaker 3: filtering through international but also sorry domestic, but also international cricket.
Speaker 1: Now, when you were talking about him having to tell
Speaker 1: players they weren't picked.
Speaker 2: Were you're referring to yourself at the Sydney sixes or.
Speaker 3: No, he didn't need to tell. I actually went to
Speaker 3: him and said, just don't even worry about it. I'll
Speaker 3: just sit over here in the corner and pretend I'm
Speaker 3: not here.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: It's funny you've gone with shupy few weekly winner because
Speaker 1: we haven't. We never talked about what each other's weekly
Speaker 1: winners are because we like an element of surprise. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I've gone with Brad Hadden for this.
Speaker 3: OK.
Speaker 1: Who's going to replace Greg Schifford as New South Wales coach.
Speaker 1: He's been assistant at Punjab and the Ricky Ponting. It's
Speaker 1: also did a stint with the sun Rises hydir Bad
Speaker 1: and obviously he captain New South Wales and I think
Speaker 1: he were in Australia for a couple of games. Lots
Speaker 1: of leadership experience. Now gets his first crack as a
Speaker 1: head coach. He's going to take over the Blues. No
Speaker 1: One elsn't been made so far on the Sixers or
Speaker 1: the Thunders of vacancies as well because Trevor Bayless is
Speaker 1: no longer coach over there at the Thunder.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's exciting times for New South Wales.
Speaker 1: A whole stack of new assistant coaches as well coming in,
Speaker 1: so Haddam's really going to get a chance to make
Speaker 1: his own mark on this squad.
Speaker 3: Well, it is great. You don't typically see those bigger
Speaker 3: names that have you know, storied international careers go back
Speaker 3: to domestic coaching. It's normally they're looking for the top jobs,
Speaker 3: aren't they. So to get him back to domestic ranks
Speaker 3: is a great coupe for domestic cricket. I guess you
Speaker 3: know you just said Adam Boges his name before, but
Speaker 3: he's actually one of those guys who's filtering out of
Speaker 3: domestic cricket. Now he'll stay in the Big Bash, but
Speaker 3: won't be around the Shield and the One Day Cup.
Speaker 3: So he grab someone of Brad Hadden and have him
Speaker 3: back around the domestic scenes. Such a big thing for
Speaker 3: New South Wales. So yeah, bit of an unknown how
Speaker 3: will go? It's one of those things I know, I
Speaker 3: know from being a player, your assistant coaches. It looks
Speaker 3: like with the best job in the world, your mates
Speaker 3: with the players, you've got your batters or your bowlers
Speaker 3: that you look after. You don't have to worry about
Speaker 3: selection or any of that. When there's tough calls to
Speaker 3: be made. You can always just be the guy that
Speaker 3: puts your arm around the players. But when you're a
Speaker 3: head coach, all of that responsibility all of a sudden
Speaker 3: comes with you. So I'm sure he's prepared for all
Speaker 3: of those situations, but it is obviously a much more
Speaker 3: stressful job than you know, just been the old bowling coach.
Speaker 1: You would have played a bit against How didn't I
Speaker 1: guess through the Big Bash year's end of his career
Speaker 1: started your career. He always looked like a very fiery
Speaker 1: individual on the field.
Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Competitive, fiery. I think my first kind of half
Speaker 3: a dozen games dozen games for Australe with him keeping
Speaker 3: as well, and he was a senior member of the team,
Speaker 3: so I remember team meetings vividly. You know, he's input
Speaker 3: in those. In those, you know, I was wow, Yeah,
Speaker 3: like how we would talk about the opposition there, wacknesses
Speaker 3: and stuff just the depth he would go into it,
Speaker 3: so yeah, no doubt he'll bring that to New southwast.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into this chat with Michael Bevin. I
Speaker 1: was able to get on a call with him. It's
Speaker 1: during the rain delay, the very long four hour rain
Speaker 1: delay before the One Day Cup final last week, so
Speaker 1: that's what he's talking about when he's talking about Bludstone
Speaker 1: Arena looking very bleak and rainy. But great to chat
Speaker 1: with him about the finisher nickname. Lots of amazing finishes
Speaker 1: in the One Day Cup and Frustralia, but also taking
Speaker 1: a big bag of wickets in a Test match. So
Speaker 1: here he is, Michael Bevan, the finisher.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: After last year Henry Thornton won the inallural Michael Bevin
Speaker 1: Medal for the best on ground in the men's final
Speaker 1: of the One Day Cup. We're now joined by the
Speaker 1: man that the medal is named after, Michael Bevan. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Unplayable podcast. How's it all going for you
Speaker 1: down there in Tasmania today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Unfortunately the news is
Speaker 4: not that great from down here. It's been a lot
Speaker 4: of rain throughout the course of the day and then
Speaker 4: obviously there needs to get underway very shortly otherwise there'll
Speaker 4: be no play. Although having just said that, like I'm
Speaker 4: looking out at the ground now, obviously got great views
Speaker 4: over belly Vole and they're just sort of pulling the
Speaker 4: stakes out now and it's very light. So yeah, look,
Speaker 4: there is an outside chance that there'll be a game
Speaker 4: on tonight if there's no further rain from this point
Speaker 4: in time.
Speaker 2: Fingers crossed.
Speaker 1: Now the One Day Cup Final, it's a game that
Speaker 1: you had a lot of success in over the years.
Speaker 1: Nine finals you played in, five wins and five hundred
Speaker 1: and something runs. Are there any particular finals that stand
Speaker 1: out when you cast your mind back to all those
Speaker 1: matches that you played in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I didn't even I didn't even realize I've
Speaker 4: been in that many finals, to be fair, which is
Speaker 4: nice to know or recall, So thanks for that. But yeah, look,
Speaker 4: the two that probably stand out for me, I think
Speaker 4: there was It was one of the earlier finals that
Speaker 4: I was in against Victoria. I'm pretty sure Dean Jones
Speaker 4: was around, Baron Berry was keeping.
Speaker 5: Flemma was bowling. He was also in the team, and.
Speaker 4: Like back then in the One Day competition, there wasn't
Speaker 4: a lot of not a lot of people turned up
Speaker 4: and on this particular occasion, I think we've got about
Speaker 4: twelve thousand to the seg for the one day Fine.
Speaker 4: So it was played in front of a such a
Speaker 4: really nice atmosphere and.
Speaker 5: It went down to the wire and so too close.
Speaker 5: Too close.
Speaker 4: Again, I tended to play that way and on this
Speaker 4: particular occasion, yeah, I think we got home in the
Speaker 4: last over or something like that. It was a pretty
Speaker 4: low scoring match and a difficult wicket.
Speaker 5: And then there was a there was a one day
Speaker 5: final against.
Speaker 4: Wa over and Earth in early two thousands or something
Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, look to WA we batted you know,
Speaker 4: I think we batted second, and you know, there was
Speaker 4: we were chasing a big score and I ended up
Speaker 4: scoring one hundred.
Speaker 5: But I remember there was a little bit.
Speaker 4: Of pressure on prior to the match, a lot of
Speaker 4: talk that they were going to target me, and so
Speaker 4: to get a big score in a you know, particularly
Speaker 4: over and perch, which is always a little bit tricky
Speaker 4: to play. That was another good memory in terms of
Speaker 4: terms of the one day one day final for me,
Speaker 4: those two matches probably stand out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I'm glad to mention those because I had
Speaker 1: a look at both of those before we came on,
Speaker 1: and that one against Victoria, you're only twenty two years old.
Speaker 1: Have you scored sixty four not out in that low
Speaker 1: in that small chase, as you said, pretty good Victorian
Speaker 1: attack there as well. James Sutherland, Tony Dotamaide, Simon O'Donnell,
Speaker 1: and Damian Fleming Bold that last over, he touched on,
Speaker 1: do you feel like this innings was a bit of
Speaker 1: a maybe a seminal moment for you, a coming of
Speaker 1: age as such, or sort of made you establish yourself
Speaker 1: on the national stage.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 4: So. I mean, you know, you always break it up
Speaker 4: into one day game and you know the four day game,
Speaker 4: and you know, so i'd sort of announced or arrived
Speaker 4: earlier than that for the longer version, you know, and.
Speaker 5: From my perspective at least from the one day game.
Speaker 4: In tight games, I'd always really had the ability, I think,
Speaker 4: to take it down to the wire. And so look,
Speaker 4: it might have been for other people or people that
Speaker 4: were watching it, but not necessarily for me, I guess.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that's sort of coincide twenty two
Speaker 4: that sort of coincided with a good run I would
Speaker 4: have had in twenty twenty one maybe for New South Wales,
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I guess it's just those steaks on
Speaker 4: top of stakes and as you're establishing yourself as a
Speaker 4: player and obviously game for slightly higher on us. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it was obviously a pretty important match from that perspective.
Speaker 2: And you said that you generally tended to take it late.
Speaker 2: Was that a deliberate tactic by you to take it
Speaker 2: to the last over of the match? We always hear
Speaker 2: in cricket these days about batting deep and taking it deep.
Speaker 2: Was that sort of your philosophy as well in those
Speaker 2: high pressure run chases.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: I think one of the reasons for that was because
Speaker 4: I like to minimize risk and make sure and just
Speaker 4: have certain bowlers to target. And when you sort of
Speaker 4: have plans and you have certain bowlers to take it,
Speaker 4: you can't really.
Speaker 5: Determine when they're going to.
Speaker 4: Come on, if that makes sense, And so quite often
Speaker 4: those bowlers that you end up targeting, you know, can
Speaker 4: quite quite often be towards the end of the innings,
Speaker 4: you know, because there's always that sort of match up
Speaker 4: between strengths and weaknesses and trying to find bowlers that
Speaker 4: make it difficult to score, et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, look,
Speaker 4: it always ended up being that way. But I wouldn't
Speaker 4: say that I went out with a view to taking
Speaker 4: it deep. You know, It's just it's sort of presented
Speaker 4: or played out that way, and it seemed natural, normal,
Speaker 4: And yeah, it seemed like the appropriate sort of strategy
Speaker 4: in most circumstances.
Speaker 1: And then you're obviously given the tagline the Finisher. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if you like that tag or you dislike
Speaker 1: that tag, but it certainly stuck. And do you remember
Speaker 1: when it first did stick and when that sort of
Speaker 1: name came about.
Speaker 4: Look, it must have been late late nineties, maybe early
Speaker 4: two thousands. I think it came from the Indian cricket public,
Speaker 4: I think, or maybe the media in India. So yeah, look,
Speaker 4: I mean obviously I liked it. I created a sort
Speaker 4: of a unique role there, and again it was just
Speaker 4: natural to me. I didn't go out to create the role,
Speaker 4: but it just happened and I found my spot, and so.
Speaker 5: Like, it was good.
Speaker 4: It was nice to know that that, you know, I
Speaker 4: created something worthy of a tag or something different at least.
Speaker 4: But then you know, I look like, if I'm being
Speaker 4: really brutally honest, I would say the last couple of
Speaker 4: years of my career, you know, it also became a
Speaker 4: bit of a burden to bear in the sense that
Speaker 4: you know, there's always that pressure to finish the match
Speaker 4: and get a result, I guess.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was nice, but it came with it with it's yeah,
Speaker 4: the you know, a few tricky.
Speaker 1: Moments well just on pressure, because I mean watching back
Speaker 1: the highlights now these days, it never looked like you
Speaker 1: were under the pump or lost your call in any stage.
Speaker 1: Was that just what it looked like from the exterior.
Speaker 1: What was actually going on inside? Were you feeling the
Speaker 1: heat or were you someone who was when you're in
Speaker 1: the moment very cool and calm?
Speaker 4: Yeah, look mostly calm until you know, everyone has their
Speaker 4: pressure points in terms of run rates. So for me,
Speaker 4: you know, it was probably six and over to go
Speaker 4: with fifteen, it was probably seven and runs it over
Speaker 4: to go with five to ten, And so as soon
Speaker 4: as it got to that stage, yeah, I started to think, right, well, okay,
Speaker 4: so it's now.
Speaker 5: Do or die. You've got to bring it down.
Speaker 4: And so I always had those sort of levels in
Speaker 4: terms of pressure on the match, like I was either
Speaker 4: called in when the team was deep in trouble or
Speaker 4: I didn't get a bat, And so when the team's
Speaker 4: actually in trouble, like most people are expecting you to
Speaker 4: lose the match, there's no real pressure.
Speaker 5: You don't put a lot of pressure on.
Speaker 4: Yourself because it is a really tricky situation and difficult,
Speaker 4: and so quite often I find that I'd go out
Speaker 4: into the middle and you know, you know, when we
Speaker 4: were struggling and there was no pressure, or at least
Speaker 4: I didn't put any pressure on myself, then you know,
Speaker 4: you take it a bit deeper, and then I think,
Speaker 4: you know, when you were a chance of winning the
Speaker 4: match was when I started to get a bit nervous again,
Speaker 4: or the nerves would start to creep up again because
Speaker 4: you had something to lose.
Speaker 5: And so for me, it's sort of ebbed and flowed.
Speaker 4: It went from no pressure to okay, we can win
Speaker 4: now a little bit of pressure, and then the last
Speaker 4: couple of overs are right on dial in on what
Speaker 4: I have to do to win the match here, and
Speaker 4: so you go back to then focusing on you know
Speaker 4: what it is you have to do, so a bit
Speaker 4: a bit of everything at times.
Speaker 2: That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you touched on you did certainly cove out
Speaker 1: a niche for yourself. But were there any players that
Speaker 1: you did sort of model your game on as you
Speaker 1: were coming through the ranks?
Speaker 5: Not not really.
Speaker 4: I mean like I'm down here, you know, for the
Speaker 4: Dean Jones Cup to present the Michael Bevan Medal and
Speaker 4: you know the guy that you know, I you know,
Speaker 4: I guess I thought extremely highly of him one day.
Speaker 4: Cricket was Dean Jones at the time in terms of
Speaker 4: the way he played, and you know, he was probably
Speaker 4: the first Australian player I know was he was at
Speaker 4: least one of them too, to change the way it
Speaker 4: had been played and to put the pressure back on
Speaker 4: the ball. But of course he did it from you
Speaker 4: number batting at number three, and so so look.
Speaker 5: I've got to be honest, I didn't.
Speaker 4: My role wasn't around when I began my career, Like
Speaker 4: no one had played that, and I sort of carved
Speaker 4: that out and made it my own and it was different,
Speaker 4: it was unique, but it was natural to me. So
Speaker 4: I didn't plan on it or I didn't watch other
Speaker 4: people thinking right, well, you know, if I played this
Speaker 4: way or I do this way, then I'll get a
Speaker 4: good result. It was just, you know, it was sort
Speaker 4: of analysis, it was feel. It was a combination of, look,
Speaker 4: I know what I can do, and you know, in
Speaker 4: the past one day cricket, batting at the back end
Speaker 4: was a bit of a slog fest, you know, and
Speaker 4: it was viewed as that, whereas I was a little
Speaker 4: bit more calculating and clinical about it.
Speaker 5: And that was just really to do with my personality.
Speaker 4: And the other thing that I would also say is
Speaker 4: that I got fortunate in the sense that I it
Speaker 4: was the role felt natural to me. I felt a
Speaker 4: level of responsibility as well. And so when you're in cricket,
Speaker 4: you know, when you're looking for batsman and finding where
Speaker 4: they that best, it sort of has to be authentic
Speaker 4: andtrinsic to.
Speaker 5: How they feel about the role.
Speaker 4: And so for me, playing that role felt completely comfortable
Speaker 4: knowing that you know, I could win, Like you know,
Speaker 4: I was at the pointy end of winning or losing
Speaker 4: a match, but of course, you know, all throughout the.
Speaker 5: Match, every player had that same opportunity.
Speaker 4: It was just because of that snapshot and moment in
Speaker 4: time where it fell down to me. But yeah, so no,
Speaker 4: I didn't really, I didn't really have anyone. Of course,
Speaker 4: I had heroes and guys I admire, but no one
Speaker 4: for that specific role.
Speaker 5: If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, it does.
Speaker 1: And as you said, you're coming to us from Valery Voval,
Speaker 1: where you enjoyed some success of your own, certainly in
Speaker 1: the latter part of your career. Looking back at that
Speaker 1: two thousand and four season when you made the move south,
Speaker 1: I mean the runs just flowed in all formats, eight
Speaker 1: cent in the Shield and plenty of runs in the
Speaker 1: One Day Cup. Why do you think it clicked for
Speaker 1: you when you made the move south?
Speaker 4: You know, I thought it was time for a change,
Speaker 4: and with that a change of approach in terms of playing.
Speaker 4: And I think at that point in time, I kind
Speaker 4: of realized, you know, my Australian career was done and dusted,
Speaker 4: even though I had overtures to try and make those
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven World Cup, I think, and I
Speaker 4: was still probably playing well enough to make it, but
Speaker 4: Australia had such a good team by then that it
Speaker 4: was tough to get back in. So I think one
Speaker 4: of the things that you do do is reflect on
Speaker 4: your career in terms of what you've achieved, what haven't
Speaker 4: you achieved? You know?
Speaker 5: And you know, is there anything that I could have
Speaker 5: done differently?
Speaker 4: It probably would have helped if I had have thought
Speaker 4: about those things throughout my career more often, and I
Speaker 4: did earlier. But for me, it was at that point
Speaker 4: in time I thought, Okay, well, how would I play
Speaker 4: now I'm probably not aim to play for.
Speaker 5: Australia, Or how would I play you know, without fear?
Speaker 4: Or you know, what haven't I on in terms of
Speaker 4: my approach that I can implement when I now I'm
Speaker 4: down in Tasmania. And so I sort of did all
Speaker 4: those things, and I had a sort of a lot
Speaker 4: of mental queues and things that I that I wanted
Speaker 4: to implement and insert into my game. And for that
Speaker 4: first year it just sort of really really worked. It
Speaker 4: wasn't really a lot about the cricket side of things.
Speaker 4: That was more just me allowing myself to let go,
Speaker 4: to let my reactions take over, probably to be a
Speaker 4: little bit more confident and carefree that I'd been in
Speaker 4: my previous parts of my career. And so yeah, when
Speaker 4: it all added up, I sort of got it right.
Speaker 4: And yeah, there were certain reasons why it really worked
Speaker 4: and it was a really enjoyable season of course, and
Speaker 4: then it was the one day comp.
Speaker 5: You know, which was which was very satisfying as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what's Tassi's first winning thirty something years
Speaker 1: and you obviously integral helped orchestrate that saw that the
Speaker 1: Tasmanian community to get around the Herbert Hurricanes last year.
Speaker 1: Was it a similar sort of vibe when the draught
Speaker 1: was broken for the Tigers?
Speaker 4: Look, it's hard to say, because I'd come from a
Speaker 4: sort of a large state with you know, quite a
Speaker 4: lot of trophies in the cabinet and a kind of
Speaker 4: a slightly different attitude and you know, and so you know,
Speaker 4: I was Canbra born and based cricketer to begin with
Speaker 4: at the start of my career, and you know, there
Speaker 4: was a touch of Canberra about Tasmania in terms of
Speaker 4: just the minnows.
Speaker 5: And the smaller and you know, always having to fight
Speaker 5: and core to.
Speaker 4: Win matches and let alone competitions, and so you know,
Speaker 4: it was it was really interesting for me that first
Speaker 4: season in terms of the headspace everyone was at and
Speaker 4: how they played their cricket.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not so sure from a like.
Speaker 4: A you know, a fan perspective or an administrative perspective,
Speaker 4: but a player perspective. It was really interesting to see,
Speaker 4: you know, some of the changes that happened during that
Speaker 4: time and obviously being a part of that as well.
Speaker 4: So it was it was like it was an enjoyable,
Speaker 4: interesting season for me.
Speaker 1: It would be remiss with me if I didn't ask
Speaker 1: you about some of your exploits for Australia as well.
Speaker 1: Of course, everybody loves to rewatch and talk about that
Speaker 1: New Year's Day innings. Is that the highlight of your
Speaker 1: career or are there other particular knocks or innings that
Speaker 1: sort of surpassed that.
Speaker 5: Perhaps, Look, it's one of them.
Speaker 4: That was what I was known for, you know, and
Speaker 4: it sort of brought me to the to the one
Speaker 4: day stage and the one day team, and so I
Speaker 4: always always cherish and remember what that meant in terms
Speaker 4: of pound for pound, in terms of the quality of
Speaker 4: the innings.
Speaker 5: Probably wasn't my favorite innings, you know.
Speaker 4: I can think of a couple of innings that were,
Speaker 4: you know, more important to me. There was a match
Speaker 4: in Melbourne early in two thousand, I think we were
Speaker 4: against New Zealand. I ended up scoring one hundred of
Speaker 4: one hundred balls, and we needed to win that match
Speaker 4: to make the final, and we'd never.
Speaker 5: Not made the final for such a lot for maybe ever,
Speaker 5: and and.
Speaker 4: We were I don't know, I look on you know, honestly,
Speaker 4: I can't even remember what we were when we were six.
Speaker 2: For Oh I've looked at up Michael six for eighty two,
Speaker 2: chasing two forty six to.
Speaker 5: Forty six, so exactly.
Speaker 4: And so that was that was a favorite because there
Speaker 4: were a lot of runs to score, not many wickets down,
Speaker 4: and it was a pressure situation. So that was probably
Speaker 4: one of my favorites. And I also sort of recall
Speaker 4: walking off that game and coming through the stands and
Speaker 4: you know, just sort of seeing the sort of the
Speaker 4: my teammates faces in terms of what I'd helped, you know, achieve.
Speaker 4: You know, it sort of resonated really strongly and made
Speaker 4: me feel pretty pretty good inside, you know. And there
Speaker 4: was a there was a well, there was a there
Speaker 4: was a series in South Africa where again they scored
Speaker 4: close to three hundred or two ninety, and that they
Speaker 4: were big scores back then and not you know, and
Speaker 4: again we lost a couple of early wickets.
Speaker 5: But they had a good attack and again from memory.
Speaker 4: I got one hundred off one hundred and helped manufacture
Speaker 4: a win you know there and then you know, obviously
Speaker 4: the West Indies ninety ninety six West Indies quarter final
Speaker 4: semi final against the West Indies were four point fifteen
Speaker 4: and it was just survival. So I had quite a Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I had quite quite quite a number of games
Speaker 4: that I thought, well, you know, there's probably more pressure on,
Speaker 4: you know than the last last ball.
Speaker 5: Win in Sydney News Day.
Speaker 4: So but it's like it's top five, Yes, but I
Speaker 4: reckon there's three or four innings that I probably probably
Speaker 4: think more highly off he.
Speaker 1: And I guess there was also that World Cup match
Speaker 1: against England in Port Elizabeth. You and Andy Bickle again
Speaker 1: combined to get Australia over the line and again another
Speaker 1: high stakes match.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just relied on Andy. Really. He was. He
Speaker 5: was the man.
Speaker 4: He was a he was a great sort of you know,
Speaker 4: bowling all around it to have at decrease, he was Yeah,
Speaker 4: he had nerves as steel, high levels of confidence.
Speaker 5: And you know, I guess one of my one of
Speaker 5: the parts to.
Speaker 4: My role is batting with lower and just kind of
Speaker 4: get understanding and getting a feel for what they're capable of,
Speaker 4: how to approach them, and you know, and yeah, and
Speaker 4: he was definitely one of those guys who just let
Speaker 4: him roll and roll with it because he thrived and
Speaker 4: there was nothing I was going to say that that
Speaker 4: would would help him switch on or or believe that
Speaker 4: he wasn't going to win the match.
Speaker 5: And so, yeah, yeah, that was a great series.
Speaker 4: Obviously, we performed really well, and we had a couple
Speaker 4: of tough, difficult matches on that wicket where it was
Speaker 4: just popping and bouncing and it was hard to get
Speaker 4: the spinners away, and you know, so there was a
Speaker 4: couple of from memory like that two thousand and three
Speaker 4: World Cup with minus warning, but we'd sort of progressed
Speaker 4: as a team there that we were just kind of
Speaker 4: good enough that no one really worried that warning was missing,
Speaker 4: and we didn't really ever feel that we weren't going
Speaker 4: to win the World Cup, even though, as you said,
Speaker 4: there was a couple of tricky matches in Port Elizabeth,
Speaker 4: it could have gone either way, so that they were
Speaker 4: pretty fond memories. And also then there was I mean,
Speaker 4: I think the favorite tournament for me was the ninety
Speaker 4: nine World Cup, just quite simply because we we hadn't
Speaker 4: really become a one day powerhouse by then, we just started.
Speaker 5: That was the beginning of it, and.
Speaker 4: We were kind of faced with because of a poor
Speaker 4: start and the way that I think it was the
Speaker 4: super sixth tournament from a memory that they had to
Speaker 4: you know, we lost a couple of early ones, and
Speaker 4: then we had to we had to win seven in
Speaker 4: a row. And at that point in time, I'd only
Speaker 4: ever played in an Australia one Day team that won
Speaker 4: three matches in a row, So to win seven in
Speaker 4: a row in a World Cup was quite amazing feeling.
Speaker 4: And I think the real the great thing about that,
Speaker 4: at least from my perspective, so we just had someone
Speaker 4: in every game that just stood up and just had
Speaker 4: a match winning performance when they really needed it. And
Speaker 4: you know, like in most teams you have sort of
Speaker 4: three or four match winners, whereas you know, just about
Speaker 4: we had six or seven guys throughout the course, seven
Speaker 4: guys throughout the course of those seven matches that stood
Speaker 4: up and turned the match on its head whenever we
Speaker 4: were struggling. So that that was probably probably my favorite
Speaker 4: memory of my One day career in terms of the team,
Speaker 4: team aspect and the team performance.
Speaker 1: I just love those photos of the team on the
Speaker 1: Lord's balcony after that win over Pakistan in the bright
Speaker 1: yellow kit. I mean, it doesn't get much more iconic
Speaker 1: than that.
Speaker 4: I don't reckon, No, it was crazy, and you know,
Speaker 4: and I think the from memory the final is a
Speaker 4: bit of a letdown. And look, I think and I
Speaker 4: know it doesn't happen nowadays because it's a global competition
Speaker 4: and everyone gets planned different wickets, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But back then, you know, I had the same feeling,
Speaker 4: the same feeling in the finals because I think we
Speaker 4: played Pakistan ninety nine, we played India in the two
Speaker 4: thousand and three and both wickets had a bit of
Speaker 4: carry and bounce, and at that point in time, you know,
Speaker 4: most of the cricket that the Indians and the Pakistani's
Speaker 4: played were on on wickets, so so you know, you
Speaker 4: sort of you're always peeping an eye on the first
Speaker 4: over with clean McGrath bowling and seeing how much pace
Speaker 4: and bounces in the wicket, and you know, through the
Speaker 4: course of the first couple of of those matches, even
Speaker 4: though they were World Cup finals.
Speaker 5: I felt that we you know, we had a.
Speaker 4: Very the condition suited us and so we had a
Speaker 4: very good chance of winning both of those.
Speaker 2: Really, that's great.
Speaker 1: Where do you keep the World Cup medals? Are they
Speaker 1: on display somewhere in your house?
Speaker 4: Or yeah, in my lounde in my lounde room. And
Speaker 4: which is which is like, it's it's it's difficult. It
Speaker 4: was only have a small, well not a small unit,
Speaker 4: but I have a unit. So I've got a sort
Speaker 4: of put all the Michael Bevan fanboys stuff up in
Speaker 4: the shirts or plastered across all the bedrooms and the
Speaker 4: lounge rooms, and so, you know, I didn't have those
Speaker 4: up for quite a while. It's only reasonably recently where
Speaker 4: I've actually just started to really well, I sort of
Speaker 4: reconnect with what I what I did in my career,
Speaker 4: and you know, and to to revisit the memories more often.
Speaker 4: And I had quite a lot of memorabilia, and I
Speaker 4: got rid of kind of half of that to local
Speaker 4: cricket teams and stuff like that. Still keep quite a bit,
Speaker 4: probably I don't even know what I'm going to do
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 5: I've got a little bit, but you know.
Speaker 4: Some of it's some of it's in the wardrobe and
Speaker 4: some of it's out on the you know you out
Speaker 4: about in the living areas and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. Absolutely, the more of it the better.
Speaker 1: Now, just before I let you go, Michael, last week,
Speaker 1: rich Ol and I sort of asked our listeners who
Speaker 1: are the best part time bowlers? And your name came
Speaker 1: up from our listeners quite a bit. Do you reckon
Speaker 1: you were under bold through your career or will you
Speaker 1: bowl the right amount with your left arm wriskin?
Speaker 4: Probably at times both over bold and under.
Speaker 5: Bold, depending on how I was bowling.
Speaker 4: It was a crazy situation bowling eyes. There was a
Speaker 4: period there where I had obviously more from a part
Speaker 4: timer into a probably nearly a regular bowler from memory,
Speaker 4: and was picked as a regular bowler in front of
Speaker 4: Paul Rifle, I believe on a green top in Port Elizabeth,
Speaker 4: and and so look, there were I didn't enjoy bowling,
Speaker 4: like I didn't have any confidence in in my bowlinging
Speaker 4: the ball, which is kind of crazy that you can
Speaker 4: get picked for playing a Test match as a bowler
Speaker 4: and still not really be one hundred percent sure where
Speaker 4: you're going to land. Them, and so there was a
Speaker 4: little bit of trepidation and nervouness nurse around that role,
Speaker 4: and also some some.
Speaker 5: Irritation given that I was.
Speaker 4: Meant to be a batsman and I hadn't really truly
Speaker 4: cracked it Test team as a batsman, but my bowling
Speaker 4: I took ten for an adelaide I think before I
Speaker 4: scored a Test century, which obviously never eventuated. But so yeah, internally,
Speaker 4: like you know, I was a little bit unsure at
Speaker 4: times of bowl really well, and then I think it
Speaker 4: sort of all came crashing down, Like I think I
Speaker 4: was probably a genuine all rounder there for a while,
Speaker 4: but it all came crashing down in the ashes in
Speaker 4: ninety seven, I think, where my batting struggled and the
Speaker 4: wickets were really.
Speaker 5: Slow and I really relied on.
Speaker 4: A bit of pop, a bit of bounce and I
Speaker 4: was overspinning with the wrong and you know, I kind
Speaker 4: of found that, you know, it was difficult to get
Speaker 4: as much traction in England and back in Australia or
Speaker 4: South Africa where I had success as a bowl or so, yeah, a.
Speaker 5: Lot of up and down.
Speaker 4: Series with my bowling and a bit hit and miss
Speaker 4: at times, but yeah, certainly when I was bowling, well
Speaker 4: they were they you know, I did a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: Well, you got to take us back to Adelaide that
Speaker 1: ten week at Hold. Not many people could say they've
Speaker 1: got a ten week at Haul in Test cricket. What
Speaker 1: happened that day?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I actually landed them. And a really good
Speaker 4: sign when you're bowling is you know, is when you
Speaker 4: bowl you're wrong, and which is probably my major you know,
Speaker 4: my major delivery, Like if guys can't pick my wrong
Speaker 4: and I know I'm a big chance because.
Speaker 5: You can get a you can get.
Speaker 4: Away with bowling tripe and you'll get wickets because you know,
Speaker 4: if if you pitch it a little bit short or
Speaker 4: a little bit fuller, they actually can't, you know, they're
Speaker 4: unsure of whether it's a wrong.
Speaker 5: And I probably had about to rollin spur Over and I.
Speaker 4: Just think the West Indies, look, they got me on
Speaker 4: it on a day and in a Test where I
Speaker 4: actually landed them pretty well, and they weren't look they
Speaker 4: were they were, they didn't really pick it like I
Speaker 4: think Glara picked my wrong and and so he had
Speaker 4: an easier time against me than some of the other batsmen.
Speaker 5: Some of the right handers, you know, and again.
Speaker 4: They were all right handers and so the wrong and
Speaker 4: became you know, a tough a tough delivery when I
Speaker 4: landed it away to the slips. So yeah, like I was,
Speaker 4: you know, that was a good you know, I'd just
Speaker 4: come back into the the Test arena and you know
Speaker 4: at the time I happened to be batting well as well.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like when I was batting.
Speaker 4: Well the you know, there's a bit of confidence here
Speaker 4: with the ball as well, and particularly when teams didn't
Speaker 4: pick my wrong, in which South Africa didn't, West Indies didn't,
Speaker 4: England didn't either, but because the wicket was so slow,
Speaker 4: they could adjust and so look I always did better
Speaker 4: as a as a as a bowler when they couldn't
Speaker 4: pick my wrong for sure.
Speaker 2: And look I'm just looking at the scorecard now you've
Speaker 2: got Shane Warn bowling at the other end as well,
Speaker 2: So bowling in Tandebeth Warning, I mean, what a dream
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember times in South Africa and obviously the
Speaker 4: West Indies as well, and of course it does make
Speaker 4: it you know, you have to give cutos to your teammates. Well,
Speaker 4: I do you know, because they were just so good
Speaker 4: in creating pressure, both defensive and offensive pressure.
Speaker 5: You know, guys like.
Speaker 4: Warning, the Glenn Dizzy, you know, all those guys they
Speaker 4: were you know, they were world class bowlers and and
Speaker 4: so you know, they're always they're always going to create
Speaker 4: pressure and wickets from the other end as well. So
Speaker 4: I really, you know, if I landed them anywhere near
Speaker 4: where are good, good areas, then you know wickets were
Speaker 4: going to follow.
Speaker 1: Excellent Michael, Well, thanks for your time and thanks for
Speaker 1: running us through some of the highlights of your great career.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the Michael Bevan Award as well.
Speaker 5: Yes, thanks you just so much appreciated.
Speaker 1: The finisher Richo one of the great nicknames as well,
Speaker 1: not just great player with great nickname, and maybe that'll
Speaker 1: have to be a top four for future episodes as
Speaker 1: the best nicknames. But when it came to chasing in
Speaker 1: one day cricket domestic, whether international or for New South
Speaker 1: Wales of for Tasmania, there was none better than Michael Bevan.
Speaker 3: Well, he's the pioneer, wasn't he of as he talks
Speaker 3: about in that chat, But he was kind of the
Speaker 3: first to be tagged with that nickname, and there's been
Speaker 3: a few that have been you know, it's been bear
Speaker 3: need around since. But there's only one. Really, there's only
Speaker 3: one finisher, isn't there. But we've seen kind of ms
Speaker 3: DONI take on that that role I guess for India
Speaker 3: for so long and making an identity for himself. And
Speaker 3: then obviously James Faulkner was the modern day version of
Speaker 3: Michael Bevan. But the I think when you look at
Speaker 3: his stats and the longevity and no matter who he
Speaker 3: played for, you know, he played for three states and Australia,
Speaker 3: he did it. He played that same role for everyone
Speaker 3: and if he was batting at three or four in
Speaker 3: domestic cricket, he still he'd still be not out at
Speaker 3: the end of the innings, or if he'd bat at
Speaker 3: six for austral Obviously it was somehow a lot easier
Speaker 3: for him to make that mark. But it's also that
Speaker 3: is now filled into the way you know, t twenty teams,
Speaker 3: one day teams are built now players in that role
Speaker 3: to finish in innings. It's such a big part of
Speaker 3: the batting order, whereas I'm sure back in the nineties
Speaker 3: and early two thousands you're probably just picking your best
Speaker 3: six batsman that you can fit in the six and
Speaker 3: then just kind of working it out whereas guys have
Speaker 3: a role. You know, Tim David was playing that for
Speaker 3: so long in T twenty cricket. So he's a pioneer
Speaker 3: and he probably deserves a lot more. You know, you
Speaker 3: don't hear his name as much when One day crickets
Speaker 3: spoken about, but he's such a pioneer and set up
Speaker 3: that role for people to enjoy now. And yeah, I
Speaker 3: was just looking at his one day stats before and
Speaker 3: he touches on the nine finals, which in itself is
Speaker 3: crazy to play. I mean nine seasons to make finals,
Speaker 3: win five of them. But he also made over three
Speaker 3: thousand runs and averages sixty one. I did seventy eight times,
Speaker 3: and twenty five of those times he didn't get out,
Speaker 3: which is just under one in three. So if anyone
Speaker 3: going around who played against him back then, who actually
Speaker 3: got him out, well done to you.
Speaker 2: Well that's a good point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's probably a couple of runouts in there,
Speaker 3: so they're pretty rare. The old Michael Bevan dismissals, So
Speaker 3: what a player.
Speaker 1: And so there his domestic cricket numbers, I think in
Speaker 1: the average mid fifties hit and oak as well, so.
Speaker 3: He actually dipped a bit warmly played for Australia, but
Speaker 3: again incredible like to average that over a long period
Speaker 3: of time. And I remember watching him as a kid.
Speaker 3: He was my favorite player. I actually had a pet
Speaker 3: bird and I named it Bevan really fun fact, so
Speaker 3: there you go. He was. He was like, and I
Speaker 3: wanted the Milli Champion Hall or a Puma that he
Speaker 3: used to use classic. I think they're making a comeback
Speaker 3: by the way. Yeah, big big fan of Bevans type
Speaker 3: of bird, budgy like in the Green and Gold as well. Man,
Speaker 3: it was a green and gold bird, so there he goes.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't as clued into his domestic feats back then.
Speaker 3: I was more watching his Australian stuff, but I was
Speaker 3: a big Bevin fan. Yeah, Bevo, I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do with that information.
Speaker 2: I've lost my train of thought.
Speaker 3: But there's a future Big Four as well, well, which
Speaker 3: is pet names. You know, we're running out of content here.
Speaker 3: I'll leave the Big Four to.
Speaker 1: You, okay, Yeah, I'll take care of today's that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And then it was nice that we also got to
Speaker 1: ask him about some of those less listener questions or
Speaker 1: listener responses about him being under bold, and he made
Speaker 1: a good point while I've taken a ten wick at
Speaker 1: Halle in a Test match, so I wasn't necessarily under bold.
Speaker 1: And we've managed to dig out some of those wickets
Speaker 1: as well from the archives, so stay tuned for those
Speaker 1: as well. But thanks to Michael Bevan for giving us
Speaker 1: his time and having that chat with us. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the sheffid Shield Final which is now locked in.
Speaker 1: It's going to be Victoria and you're old mob South
Speaker 1: Australia taking it taking it to each other for five
Speaker 1: days at the Junction Oval for March twenty six. The
Speaker 1: Sacker Now they've been in the competition since eighteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: rich oh, they've never managed to go back to back
Speaker 1: and back in the late eighteen hundreds it was only
Speaker 1: a three team competition, so you've got a good opportunity.
Speaker 1: They never managed to do it then could they do
Speaker 1: it now? Brendan Doggett is a touch and go for
Speaker 1: that final. He would be a huge inclusion if they
Speaker 1: can bring him in. But they've got plenty of pace
Speaker 1: yep as well, don't they? The Sackers and so to
Speaker 1: Victoria and maybe that's been a bit of a theme
Speaker 1: of this season. Most of the topic could takers have
Speaker 1: been quicks as has been the case for the last
Speaker 1: few years, and the two sides got to have a
Speaker 1: bit of a look at each other this week as well,
Speaker 1: playing out a bit of a tame draw with a
Speaker 1: bit of weather around in yeah, Melbourne, so hopefully hopefully
Speaker 1: some clear skies for that final when the week comes around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit of an odd one knowing
Speaker 3: that the possible scenario is going to pit two teams
Speaker 3: against each other again at the same venue a few
Speaker 3: weeks later. So once that Queenslane kind of ran out
Speaker 3: of the opportunity of that game. I mean, the spice
Speaker 3: was taken out of it, and everyone's looking forward to
Speaker 3: the final when they so you say they got to
Speaker 3: look at it, look at it, Chada, I'd probably say
Speaker 3: they didn't show much of Yeah. Wow, I mean in
Speaker 3: saying that everyone knows exactly what everyone does down to
Speaker 3: a te so but yeah, definitely fizzled out and everyone's
Speaker 3: probably preserving themselves for the big dance now. So but
Speaker 3: in saying that, Brendan Hugget hasn't played or didn't play
Speaker 3: in that game and it hasn't played for a while.
Speaker 3: So to get him back a bit of a Shield
Speaker 3: final specialist, which we've said, so that'll be a huge
Speaker 3: inclusion for South Australia and just to get themselves back
Speaker 3: into the opportunity to defend their shield is a pretty
Speaker 3: good achievement because they weren't looking likely kind of at
Speaker 3: the big Bash break. They've they've turned it around really well.
Speaker 3: And again, as you said, it's all been on the
Speaker 3: back of well as the same for victory, but the
Speaker 3: bowling attacks have been outstanding and they have been for
Speaker 3: a period of time now for South Australia, especially with McAndrew.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got a range of ballers there, but
Speaker 3: the core that's kept them together over this last couple
Speaker 3: of years and even going back a bit further is
Speaker 3: a big part of their success. But also getting Alex
Speaker 3: carry back from the Ashes and chucking him into that
Speaker 3: middle order as they did last year in their Shield win.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think they'll be quietly confident. I know
Speaker 3: it's hard winning away, but with the new rules with
Speaker 3: the Shield and not being able to just be a
Speaker 3: boring draw, it's going to bring them into the game.
Speaker 1: Ok yeah, okay, And so as Jake Cleman said, they've
Speaker 1: they lost their first two games of this season in
Speaker 1: South Australia, but since then they haven't actually lost, so
Speaker 1: giving them a chance or Victoria have been so dominant
Speaker 1: this season, so obviously deserve to go in favorites. But
Speaker 1: can you see world where South Astralia do upset the Victorians.
Speaker 3: I think you can with just the way the pitchers
Speaker 3: have made these days. And again you can't really just
Speaker 3: produce a boring It's going to be a good wick here.
Speaker 3: It's not as if they're going to make it a
Speaker 3: typical green seema. But I think over the course of
Speaker 3: five days there will be in an opportunity for South Australia.
Speaker 3: You know, there'll be an opportunity of the game for
Speaker 3: them to be able to take and get in a
Speaker 3: strong position. We saw that with Queensland even last year.
Speaker 3: It is hard winning away in a five day game,
Speaker 3: but there's always an opportunity at some point to take
Speaker 3: that and be in the game. So that will confront
Speaker 3: them at some point. But it is hard, it's definitely hard.
Speaker 3: And Victoria I've had a dominant season. They're basically guaranteed
Speaker 3: of being in the Shill Final back at the Big Bash,
Speaker 3: like it felt that way anyway, so they're definitely going
Speaker 3: to be confident. But yeah, I dare say there's a
Speaker 3: good opportunity that South Australia can I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know how you would say it, but there'll be
Speaker 3: an opportunity for them to win the game or at
Speaker 3: least get themselves in their position to win the game.
Speaker 3: It's just whether or not they can they can really
Speaker 3: capitalize on it. So again, it's great to see that
Speaker 3: finals now are the way they are and it's not
Speaker 3: just going to be the old you know, nine hundred
Speaker 3: You remember that gomes back in the early two thousand,
Speaker 3: which in himself, I mean, you wouldn't want to watch
Speaker 3: the live stream, no, but it'd be great to check
Speaker 3: the scores and be like, wow, they're on seven hundred
Speaker 3: four down they just lost their fourth like that in
Speaker 3: itself was because that takes some skill. But it is
Speaker 3: nice to see games that are games and people trying
Speaker 3: to win.
Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, it's a bit fascicle though when you get
Speaker 1: to five for nine hundred.
Speaker 3: Isn't it It is a little bit, but then you
Speaker 3: get part times bowling and as we've spoken about last
Speaker 3: couple week, cricket lovers, we do love watching people who
Speaker 3: don't usually bowl get an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Now Victoria, they will obviously have their captain Will Sutherland,
Speaker 1: and they'll have Scott Bowland, who's been on fire in
Speaker 1: this competition. But then they've got to work out who
Speaker 1: else fits into their bowling attack. They've had Sam Elliott
Speaker 1: who's been taking which it's for fun this season. Mitch
Speaker 1: Perry has got a couple of five fers. Fergus O'Neill
Speaker 1: has an incredible chef which you're bowling average. Todd Murphy
Speaker 1: he's a pretty handy off spinner. How do you fit
Speaker 1: all them into an eleven?
Speaker 3: It's a good point. Who didn't play in this last week?
Speaker 3: I didn't play. I didn't pay attention to that Will Sutherland,
Speaker 3: was he manage or did he play? Have to check
Speaker 3: this scorecard with THEE. But now Will was there, I
Speaker 3: would dare say that all of them can bat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes it tough too, But.
Speaker 3: Then I'm like, well, can you find a way to
Speaker 3: play them all as well? I know, well there's going
Speaker 3: to be someone unlike because you can't fit them all in.
Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously Will's captain, so he's in. Scott
Speaker 3: Bland's first picked. Fergus o'neils arguably second picked. You're going
Speaker 3: to need a spinner. Sam Elliot's made a pretty good
Speaker 3: case too be third picked. He can also bat. He's
Speaker 3: very handy with the bat, so I mean minch Perry
Speaker 3: is the one there who's probably unlucky, but again he
Speaker 3: can bat. He's had a good year especially he's come
Speaker 3: into form in the last few rounds, so good luck.
Speaker 1: Tough on the was ferguson neil who was left out
Speaker 1: obviously resting, But yeah, it's going to be a selection crunch,
Speaker 1: which good teams well often have, don't they.
Speaker 3: That's often the result of a strong season and a
Speaker 3: good team is that someone is going to be left out.
Speaker 3: So been there the one season actually had a good
Speaker 3: year in child cricket, actually ran the drinks in al Springs.
Speaker 3: That was the end of my shill career. So you've
Speaker 3: shared that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a real but.
Speaker 3: That was my decision to be like, well stuff this format,
Speaker 3: I'm not playing it anymore. But I es they would
Speaker 3: look forward Mitch Perry's a young kid. If he does
Speaker 3: miss out and we're speculating here, but he'll get another
Speaker 3: opportunity at some point in the next five ten years.
Speaker 2: You would think, how quickly did you make a decision
Speaker 2: to throw them?
Speaker 3: I think it was as the coin went out tay one.
Speaker 3: That was a long five days now.
Speaker 1: It was a bit of a dead rubber out of cricket.
Speaker 1: Central New South Wales took on WA in the final
Speaker 1: matches for both Greg Ship and Adam Vergas as their
Speaker 1: head coaches. And even though there was nothing on the line,
Speaker 1: we've got a great finish four overs to go. Sean
Speaker 1: Abott had just taken the eighth wicket of the w
Speaker 1: A eating Westerners. I can't win this match, so they're
Speaker 1: trying to hold on for a draw and then the
Speaker 1: umpires say the light's too bad. You have to knoww
Speaker 1: your spinners. I thought that was a bit of a shame,
Speaker 1: but you know, safety comes first. And then Joel Davies
Speaker 1: manages to get a wicked in the final over and
Speaker 1: then has three balls to get out Esther Hazen the
Speaker 1: new number eleven. He gets off strike and Corey rocket
Speaker 1: Jolie some great names down there in that lower order
Speaker 1: manages to hang on. So that was a fun way
Speaker 1: to finish the regular season, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: It is It's always good to see games go down
Speaker 3: to that kind of Yeah, the last over and you
Speaker 3: got eleven Blokes Award and you've got wives. Salzman was
Speaker 3: bowling part time spin because he's he's normally a quick
Speaker 3: but he's coming off a really bad hamstring injury, so
Speaker 3: thrown the ball to him. Yeah, and he actually looked right,
Speaker 3: to be honest, So interesting. Yeah, it's always I mean,
Speaker 3: for the last game of the year, you want to
Speaker 3: go on a bit of tense action, don't you, and
Speaker 3: a result they can happened. So yeah, with some good viewing.
Speaker 3: Cam Green back in the runs for w A in
Speaker 3: that game as well, which is always nice to see
Speaker 3: again big names go back to State cricket and kind
Speaker 3: of show everyone again how good they are. So Rocketcolie
Speaker 3: with five wickets, so he's a name going forward that's
Speaker 3: again going to keep being around the mark for that
Speaker 3: spinner spot if theory ever is one that vacates. So
Speaker 3: but yeah, mainly the talking point was about the coaches,
Speaker 3: but it was it was a pretty good game.
Speaker 2: Of cricket that got played and Tasmania.
Speaker 1: They smashed Queensland down in Hobart, a real missed opportunity
Speaker 1: for the Bulls there. Unfortunately they're batting just didn't quite
Speaker 1: click at the end of this season. They were sitting
Speaker 1: in second place for a good bit of this second
Speaker 1: half of this season and just sort of fell away
Speaker 1: at the end. So disappointing a result for them, but
Speaker 1: Tazzy they managed to finish with a really strong win
Speaker 1: and potentially take some momentum into next season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that'd be disappointed again, no doubt. With I
Speaker 3: tipped them. I just had this weird feeling they would
Speaker 3: with Jackson byrd back and as we talked about before
Speaker 3: the I feel like they've got a good depth of
Speaker 3: fast bowling there now, so I feel like there was
Speaker 3: a bit of a missed opportunity for them. But as
Speaker 3: you say, there's there is always next year and for
Speaker 3: queens And yeah, they'll be kicking themselves, no doubt, because
Speaker 3: it was there for them, that opportunity in the first
Speaker 3: innings with the bat to really capitalize and put themselves
Speaker 3: in the opportunity to play in the shilld Final again
Speaker 3: like they did last year it would have been away
Speaker 3: from home, but you'd learn your lessons from kind of
Speaker 3: how last year's final went. What can you do better.
Speaker 3: You've got big names in that team that came back.
Speaker 3: I mean Usmond Kwaja's domestic career or four d a
Speaker 3: career is now done so and he missed this game
Speaker 3: the through paternity leave. So yeah, they'll be disappointed. Michael Nessa.
Speaker 3: You know all these guys, they're just they're going to
Speaker 3: be another year old and you might not get that
Speaker 3: opportunity again. So again, to be an opportunity to play
Speaker 3: Shill finals is what it's all about. But then to
Speaker 3: kind of miss the opportunity is a bit of a kicker.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they'll be disappointed. As they hit their mad
Speaker 3: Mondays around the.
Speaker 1: Country and from Queensland's point of view, they were smashed
Speaker 1: with injuries. Yeah, but in the bowling department, so it
Speaker 1: must be said that it feels funny that it hasn't
Speaker 1: been their bowling that's lewed down.
Speaker 2: It's been the batting.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, as you said, they've probably had to
Speaker 1: do a Bricket Creek hotel and have a few jars
Speaker 1: just to see off the season.
Speaker 3: I imagine yeah, they're probably not alone. It's four other
Speaker 3: states doll on the same thing, isn't it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's always it's a weird time of year because I'm
Speaker 3: sure some of the bowlers have had really long Like
Speaker 3: Cameron Gannon, I'm pretty sure he played basically every Shield game.
Speaker 3: He did ye every time, which is amazing achievement at
Speaker 3: his age. So he'd be probably enjoying waking up today
Speaker 3: and having a beer the Sarva and looking forward to
Speaker 3: a few weeks off, whereas I think there'd be some
Speaker 3: other guys who wake up and the disappointment of not
Speaker 3: being able to capitalize on again another year. Everyone's another
Speaker 3: year older. These opportunities don't always come around, so it's
Speaker 3: probably not something we're focused on enough. Is those domestic
Speaker 3: cricket guys who don't always get to play for Australia
Speaker 3: like a Cameron Gannon, but have these amazing domestic careers.
Speaker 3: You know, you want to be winning trophies and WA
Speaker 3: have had two years now down the bottom. So new
Speaker 3: coach coming in for them that'll be an opportunity to
Speaker 3: bounce back. But yeah, it's a weird timmy year for sure.
Speaker 1: Leading week taker Liam Hatcher. He's doing a drink too.
Speaker 1: I reckon amazing effort from him. Nine games and forty
Speaker 1: three or forty four wickets, so certainly break that year
Speaker 1: from him absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think he took another half a dozen for this game.
Speaker 3: So to do it at that ground as well, I'd
Speaker 3: like to play a few games at Cricket Central. It's
Speaker 3: pretty flat there, so we talk about semi friendly conditions
Speaker 3: in the shield at the moment, but probably not. He's
Speaker 3: probably the one guy wh's be like, hang on, what
Speaker 3: about me? So he's at a good age going forward
Speaker 3: where if he can put together another strong summer next
Speaker 3: year with as we've spoken about it at length, the
Speaker 3: age of our our quicks in the national team, he
Speaker 3: could be something that kind of comes from nowhere and
Speaker 3: puts his hand up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: WNCL Final that's coming up on Saturday as well. This
Speaker 1: week it's going to be New South Wales hosting Queensland
Speaker 1: at Cricket Central. Honeston and Sam Bates they're playing on
Speaker 1: opposition teams, but they both play their one hundredth match
Speaker 1: in the competition over the weekend. Jonathon conversely, has played
Speaker 1: all one hundred for Quensane, whereas Baits has played for
Speaker 1: ACT Tasmania, Victoria and now in New South walesa so
Speaker 1: really doing the rounds there and she's been a consistent
Speaker 1: performer everywhere she's gone. Katie Mack recently announced or just
Speaker 1: on Wednesday as we're recording, as the player of the tournament.
Speaker 1: Another great season for her, so consistent. She's been dismissed
Speaker 1: in the nineties three times this season, unfortunate for her.
Speaker 1: But it's the first time anybody's ever managed that feed
Speaker 1: in the WNCL, So a little bit of a history.
Speaker 1: Maybe not one year what but you'd rather a ninety
Speaker 1: than a zero, wouldn't.
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say. So there'd be
Speaker 3: a record for someone who's made the most ducks and yeah,
Speaker 3: wouldn't be her exactly. No, she's had a great season,
Speaker 3: same in the big batch, so that'd be a really
Speaker 3: good final bit of a State of Origin finals the
Speaker 3: SA Victoria, the AFL True and then Queens and New
Speaker 3: South obviously in the rugby league department, So two storied rivals,
Speaker 3: two storied rivals in two different areas of the country.
Speaker 3: So be some passionate supporters getting getting amongst or down
Speaker 3: to those games as well.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that rivalry when you're playing for South Australia.
Speaker 1: Is there that hatred or despise of other teams or
Speaker 1: is it a bit different in cricket circles.
Speaker 3: Well, I was. I was raised being South AUSI to
Speaker 3: not like Victorians like that was a big thing. Like
Speaker 3: the kickovick was quite a big thing, wasn't it. You're
Speaker 3: a Victorian, Yeah did you?
Speaker 2: Well, we didn't hear that because yeah.
Speaker 3: But it was probably a smaller like a little brother.
Speaker 3: So you wouldn't have a hatred towards South Australia because Victorian.
Speaker 3: That's why we that's what we hated Victorians.
Speaker 2: Like Australia New Zealand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a little bit of that isn't a little
Speaker 3: brother thing. So there was definitely definitely that. And if
Speaker 3: you're raised on the like I said, the AFL state
Speaker 3: of origin that was that was quite a big part
Speaker 3: of it as well. And that's the same inquison you
Speaker 3: So kids are raised watching rugby league, state of origin,
Speaker 3: you pick a team or wherever you're born you affiliate with.
Speaker 3: So I'm not commenting for them, but I was definitely
Speaker 3: raised as kay when I played Victoria and cricket. It
Speaker 3: was like, go a little bit harder, but also insane
Speaker 3: that it's amazing and they're full of like basically an
Speaker 3: international team. So I say that, but I definitely didn't
Speaker 3: say anything on the field to show my hatred.
Speaker 1: So good luck to both the Breakers and the Fire.
Speaker 1: This week in the WSCLF, Who's you pick? You said,
Speaker 1: I've only lost one match this season. They're playing at home.
Speaker 1: Alissa Healy is going to be playing in her final
Speaker 1: match of cricket. They're going to be keen to see
Speaker 1: her off on a high. This is it, Tarlie Wilson,
Speaker 1: she's been a star. She's just been picked in her
Speaker 1: first audio squad and she's on the Scoop podcast this
Speaker 1: week as well, so if you want to hear from.
Speaker 2: Talia a Scoop podcast.
Speaker 1: I would love to see the Fire make amends for
Speaker 1: last season, but I think I have to if I'm tipping,
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be tipping the Breakers.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's fair. Yeah at home, I think so. Like
Speaker 3: you said, the season has been pretty amazing, but you
Speaker 3: just never known vinyls do you what about in the shield?
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?
Speaker 2: What's your feel shield? We've got a little bit of.
Speaker 3: Time, yeah, and talk about the time we sit on that.
Speaker 1: Okay, sit on that, but we'd love like to hear
Speaker 1: who our listeners think. Yep, it's going to do well,
Speaker 1: so send them in podcast. Cricket dot com dot you
Speaker 1: is the place to do that, or on Instagram if
Speaker 1: you want. And speaking of that early I squad.
Speaker 2: Rich.
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got astray over in the West Indies at
Speaker 1: the minute playing some women's internationals. They're playing three T
Speaker 1: twenties in St. Vincent, beautiful little Caribbean island there. Those
Speaker 1: matches are early morning for Australia on March twenty, twenty
Speaker 1: two and twenty four, really good times and actually I
Speaker 1: think they're starting at nine or ten in the morning
Speaker 1: and they're available on Disney Plus, so if you have
Speaker 1: that streaming of us then you'll be able to watch.
Speaker 1: And then some matches in St Kits free Odi eyes
Speaker 1: March twenty eight, March thirty and April third. So it's
Speaker 1: a very short and sharp little series, but a nice
Speaker 1: warm up for the T twenty World Cup. I think
Speaker 1: you said you haven't been to Saint Vincent, but I
Speaker 1: was there two years ago for the T twenty World
Speaker 1: Cup and it was a really beautiful ground, just a
Speaker 1: tiny island really, and it was the match where Afghanistan
Speaker 1: beat Australia in that crucial pool match or Super six match,
Speaker 1: and we were watching the game in Afghanistan. We're getting
Speaker 1: close to victory. I think they just hit a four
Speaker 1: or taken a wicket. I can't remember if they were
Speaker 1: fielding first or batting first. And there wasn't much of
Speaker 1: a crowd there, but we felt a bit of a
Speaker 1: shake in the grandstand as if you know, there's been
Speaker 1: a big roar. We only learned later that the ground
Speaker 1: was hit by an earthquake during the match, so the
Speaker 1: shake we felt was actually the trend of seismic activity.
Speaker 3: So what was the number on the Richter scales?
Speaker 2: Is your six point seven? I think in the end,
Speaker 2: so decent, not small? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is that a common common.
Speaker 2: Thing there that I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I didn't sort of once off look into it, but
Speaker 1: it sort of matched that well with Australia getting shaken
Speaker 1: out of that tournament at the same time. So that's
Speaker 1: my little memory of Saint Vincent and I'd love to
Speaker 1: go back on there.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you didn't get to go on this tour, but
Speaker 3: as always a future tour program, there's I'm sure you'll
Speaker 3: get I'm sure we get another. I actually never went
Speaker 3: to the caravan. That was the one place I never
Speaker 3: got to. Well, never toured.
Speaker 2: That's a shame.
Speaker 3: So but there was one during COVID, so I'm not
Speaker 3: sure it would have been the same. I withdrew from that,
Speaker 3: but even if I went, I'm not sure it would
Speaker 3: have been the same experience. Although I'm pretty sure the
Speaker 3: boys went on a massive boat at some point had
Speaker 3: a party, so maybe I should.
Speaker 2: Have that sounds fun.
Speaker 3: Should have gone.
Speaker 2: Caravan Premier League never came across your desk.
Speaker 3: Apparently it was. It was a real tough one for Well.
Speaker 3: I think the time was leading into the Australian season,
Speaker 3: so I was always hard as a policy to get
Speaker 3: over there, but also a lot of.
Speaker 2: Travel between Iland. Oh that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even getting there was a big commitment. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: never got as across the desk to that one. Maybe
Speaker 3: one day as a coach or a journal you never know. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: maybe we'll do it together one day.
Speaker 2: Sounds good to me.
Speaker 1: Let's say a quick break when we come back. We'll
Speaker 1: get stuck into this week's Big Four, looking at the
Speaker 1: best Grand Finals this century. Okay, Richard, we've had some
Speaker 1: listener feedback. A couple of weeks ago. We got you
Speaker 1: to talk about your favorite bowling actions past or present.
Speaker 1: A lot of people agreed with your list, including Adam Rompel.
Speaker 2: He said, very good list, rich O. Shane Bond definitely
Speaker 2: underrated and they got a lot of likes, So thank you, Adam.
Speaker 2: I can't go wrong with Shane Bond. And Lord Humongous
Speaker 2: said Chris Can's had a good at bowling action as well,
Speaker 2: another New Zealander. Yeah, maybe a little bit on the nose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably we'll leave that one.
Speaker 2: There, Okay.
Speaker 1: Anthony Locke, Simon Jones, Okay, he's speaking of underrated two
Speaker 1: thousand and five.
Speaker 3: That is strong, strong action, smooth smooth. Yep. He was good.
Speaker 3: He was very good.
Speaker 2: He could swing.
Speaker 3: I always think of him the Poor when he did
Speaker 3: his knee at the Gabba that first test. I know
Speaker 3: he came back after that or was that after the five?
Speaker 3: Now that yeah, two obviously five peaked a peak of
Speaker 3: his powers, but I always think of that knee injury
Speaker 3: the Poor like first day yet Yeah, terrible, but he was.
Speaker 3: He was a gun.
Speaker 2: Should fast bawlers be sliding around in the airfield?
Speaker 3: Look at him these days, they're everywhere, so yes, okay.
Speaker 1: And then dill Park he gave us a triple threat.
Speaker 1: He went Anderson at gram and Stein. Sorry Stain, he's
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 3: I did miss on that, but I kind of, I
Speaker 3: kind of said, Jordan Buckingham reminds me of it, did
Speaker 3: stay and I could have easily gone to him. He's
Speaker 3: definitely built again, built in a laboratory for fast bowling.
Speaker 3: Dal Stain, apart from his high which is probably what
Speaker 3: made him so amazing, igine if he was six seven
Speaker 3: like more name Morca was like, there's another one with
Speaker 3: the Akram and Jimmy, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Their own He's no wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everyone's opinion, isn't it. Everyone's taste. Everyone has
Speaker 3: different tastes. Left handed, well, left arms versus right arms swing.
Speaker 3: You know, everyone's got their own. Everyone's got their own. Look.
Speaker 2: Did you play against al Stand in the Big Bash?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did he have the crazy eyes going well?
Speaker 3: I think I faced last ball of the innings right
Speaker 3: when he was playing for the Stars. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 3: it was just a little white York at the hip
Speaker 3: for one, so yeah, I was striking one hundred too,
Speaker 3: but he didn't have crazy eyes because it was Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was just kind of going through the motions pretty well.
Speaker 3: I think he had like three for twenty or four.
Speaker 3: But he was again one of those through the form
Speaker 3: my kind of twenties that every time he bowled on
Speaker 3: to watch. So absolutely and a beautiful one of the
Speaker 3: best blocks going around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great, So this week's top four richro to
Speaker 1: finish us off this week is the best Grand Finals
Speaker 1: this century because obviously we've got the WNCL coming after
Speaker 1: One Day Cups just finished Sheffield Shield. Next week it's
Speaker 1: trophy season's final season. Oscars, So oscars this week? Are they?
Speaker 2: So I've gone through the best.
Speaker 1: Now I've gone domestic and international and so obviously a
Speaker 1: lot to choose from. So a rattle through these I'll
Speaker 1: get your opinion.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 1: I've gone for the twenty ten T twenty World Cup
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean and Australia Women's beat New Zealand by
Speaker 1: three runs. Sophie Devine last ball Evenings five to win
Speaker 1: off one ball, she smashed it straight back of the
Speaker 1: Elise Perry and Perry's put her foot out stopped the
Speaker 1: full stopped it going to a super over. Australia win
Speaker 1: and the Australian men's team are there watching as well.
Speaker 1: You don't get to see that very often. It's a
Speaker 1: nice wholesome moment. Australia win that one in Bridgetown. Number three,
Speaker 1: I've got the BBL four Final six and scorches Brettley's
Speaker 1: final game. Incredible finish, couple wickets and then a run off.
Speaker 1: The final ball could have gone either way that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was a classic. I've gone the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three ODI Mentor Cup Australia beating India at the Metabad.
Speaker 1: Pretty incredible stuff. They'd look untouchable all tournament in Australia
Speaker 1: thanks to Travis Head. Just get the job done. And
Speaker 1: then number one, I've gone for the Riobi Cup. Finally,
Speaker 1: twenty eleven twelve South Australia and Tasmania tied match no
Speaker 1: super over in the playing conditions that year. A tie
Speaker 1: is good enough for South Australia and Gary Putland is
Speaker 1: the hero.
Speaker 3: For Iceman the finish Southustralia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the finish he was he went by the iceman
Speaker 1: the iceman from that night on Yeah, and so we
Speaker 1: actually did an in depth look at that match on
Speaker 1: Stories after Stumps, So jump over onto that podcast if
Speaker 1: you want to have a listen to Gary Putland and
Speaker 1: Theodore Appolis Daniel Harris that those sorts of guys and
Speaker 1: cross wait reminisce about that particular night where Ricky Ponting
Speaker 1: was running without pads at the non strikers end at
Speaker 1: the end of that.
Speaker 3: Match, famous one that so I had to in case
Speaker 3: you missed them, which I didn't think you would, but
Speaker 3: it was that one and the BBL fourth Finals. So
Speaker 3: Bradley's last game camera of all places.
Speaker 2: And neutral final venue.
Speaker 3: Can we can we can someone tell us why that was.
Speaker 1: I think they just wanted to try it out and
Speaker 1: make sure that there was no homered that was scheduled
Speaker 1: pre Yeah, it was well before the start of the.
Speaker 3: Season, adelaide. It was in camera, that's right, So trying
Speaker 3: to make a bit of a I think, right. Okay,
Speaker 3: so that lasted one year, but it was a great game.
Speaker 3: Brettley's last Moses Enriquez luffed at. Sorry to bring it
Speaker 3: up though that it happened. That was a good throw
Speaker 3: I think who threw it in.
Speaker 1: Was it Michael Lum possibly, Yeah, because all of the
Speaker 1: field was in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fada he bowled such a good last over, dragged
Speaker 3: them back and storied rivalry again between those two. So
Speaker 3: I had the chainsaw going out, like we spoke about
Speaker 3: as a couple of times, that was that was a
Speaker 3: great final. And then well, I'm going to be biased BBLA.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to mention that, Yeah, well
Speaker 3: it wasn't a classic final. It kind of was, I think,
Speaker 3: I think because it didn't go down to the why
Speaker 3: the result was known probably with two oves to go
Speaker 3: in the game, but I think the twist in the
Speaker 3: game and being between two Melbourne teams neither had won,
Speaker 3: it was on toast. Yeah. That that's probably the other
Speaker 3: honorable fifth.
Speaker 1: Definitely, because a lot of the international finals I sort
Speaker 1: of scanned over haven't been that close. So I'm glad
Speaker 1: we've had some good bbl's and some good One Day
Speaker 1: Cup finishes.
Speaker 3: And there every year, aren't they. So we're going to
Speaker 3: get like, yeah, the World Cup onths every four or
Speaker 3: every two years, so it's probably harder to think back
Speaker 3: whereas BBL every single year and you want a close one,
Speaker 3: and you want one that you can talk about the
Speaker 3: next however long. And that's a pretty good list.
Speaker 2: I've done pretty well.
Speaker 3: Send him in if you think of any others.
Speaker 1: No doubt we'll have some good nominations that we missed,
Speaker 1: because as you say, there's plenty that happened every year,
Speaker 1: so there'll be a few good ones in there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, has there ever been a super other and
Speaker 3: there hasn't has a big gush final semi. I can't
Speaker 3: think of any that would be awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that.
Speaker 3: That's high high pressure.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll have to come back next week and
Speaker 2: finish this off.
Speaker 3: Rich Oh, always a pleasure.