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Speaker 1: Once again this season, Quantus is proud to be flying

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Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello, well,

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Speaker 1: welcome to The Unplayable Podcast. It's been a big week

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Speaker 1: in cricket. My name is josh Ona Finger, Caine Richardson's

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Speaker 1: here as always and well we've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: domestic finals to look forward to now with the Sheffield

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Speaker 2: It's coming to the end of the cricket season.

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Speaker 3: Mate, it is. We've said for a few weeks it's

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Speaker 3: a trophy season. We've had one given out in the

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Speaker 3: past week, have winced into our last pod, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: that starts to get the flavor of this month going.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's one of those times a year where

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Speaker 3: most teams are disappointed and probably happy the seasons are finishing,

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Speaker 3: but also for a couple of lucky teams they've got

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Speaker 3: something to play for now on this next week. So

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Speaker 3: always an exciting time of the year it is.

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Speaker 1: And lots of different states represented as well.

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Speaker 2: This season.

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Speaker 1: We had obviously New South Wales and Tasmania in that

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Speaker 2: Will preview those finals as well.

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Speaker 1: We've also got Michael Bevin an interview coming up with

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Speaker 1: the great domestic and international cricketer.

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Speaker 2: He did it all in the Bevo and he's coming

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Speaker 2: up very shortly.

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Speaker 3: He did it suits the theme perfectly, Josh. So you

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Speaker 3: put in these it's no accident when you put these

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Speaker 3: shows together, the quality of guests, you get to supplement

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Speaker 3: the topic conversation that we have for the rest of

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Speaker 3: the program. But do we want a weekly winner.

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Speaker 2: I think we should get into the weekly We should.

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Speaker 3: It's one again the category that we're talking about, people

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Speaker 3: who win. We're talking about trophies, we're talking about winning.

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Speaker 3: So weekly winner, I'm going to give mine to Greg Shippin,

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Speaker 3: who's waken up today. As you know, he's no longer

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Speaker 3: So end of his well, I assume he's not going

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Speaker 3: to coach next season at any I mean he's available.

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Speaker 3: But what a career tas he for eleven seasons to

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Speaker 3: begin he went to Victoria, his home state. Four Shefford

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately they've well, no one's managed to win a trophy

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Speaker 1: And he went into coaching pretty quickly after his playing

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Speaker 3: It could have been double almost, which is unheard of.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you were talking about him having to tell

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Speaker 1: It's funny you've gone with shupy few weekly winner because

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Speaker 1: You would have played a bit against How didn't I

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Speaker 1: Arena looking very bleak and rainy. But great to chat

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Speaker 1: with him about the finisher nickname. Lots of amazing finishes

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Speaker 1: here he is, Michael Bevan, the finisher.

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Speaker 1: After last year Henry Thornton won the inallural Michael Bevin

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Speaker 1: of the One Day Cup. We're now joined by the

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Speaker 1: man that the medal is named after, Michael Bevan. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Unplayable podcast. How's it all going for you

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Speaker 1: down there in Tasmania today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Unfortunately the news is

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Speaker 4: Look, it's hard to say, because I'd come from a

441
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Speaker 4: sort of a large state with you know, quite a

442
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Speaker 4: lot of trophies in the cabinet and a kind of

443
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Speaker 4: a slightly different attitude and you know, and so you know,

444
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Speaker 4: I was Canbra born and based cricketer to begin with

445
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Speaker 4: at the start of my career, and you know, there

446
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Speaker 4: was a touch of Canberra about Tasmania in terms of

447
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: just the minnows.

448
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Speaker 5: And the smaller and you know, always having to fight

449
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Speaker 5: and core to.

450
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Speaker 4: Win matches and let alone competitions, and so you know,

451
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Speaker 4: it was it was really interesting for me that first

452
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Speaker 4: season in terms of the headspace everyone was at and

453
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Speaker 4: how they played their cricket.

454
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not so sure from a like.

455
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Speaker 4: A you know, a fan perspective or an administrative perspective,

456
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Speaker 4: but a player perspective. It was really interesting to see,

457
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Speaker 4: you know, some of the changes that happened during that

458
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Speaker 4: time and obviously being a part of that as well.

459
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Speaker 4: So it was it was like it was an enjoyable,

460
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Speaker 4: interesting season for me.

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Speaker 1: It would be remiss with me if I didn't ask

462
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Speaker 1: you about some of your exploits for Australia as well.

463
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Speaker 1: Of course, everybody loves to rewatch and talk about that

464
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Speaker 1: New Year's Day innings. Is that the highlight of your

465
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Speaker 1: career or are there other particular knocks or innings that

466
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Speaker 1: sort of surpassed that.

467
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Speaker 5: Perhaps, Look, it's one of them.

468
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Speaker 4: That was what I was known for, you know, and

469
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Speaker 4: it sort of brought me to the to the one

470
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Speaker 4: day stage and the one day team, and so I

471
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Speaker 4: always always cherish and remember what that meant in terms

472
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Speaker 4: of pound for pound, in terms of the quality of

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Speaker 4: the innings.

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Speaker 5: Probably wasn't my favorite innings, you know.

475
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Speaker 4: I can think of a couple of innings that were,

476
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Speaker 4: you know, more important to me. There was a match

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Speaker 4: in Melbourne early in two thousand, I think we were

478
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Speaker 4: against New Zealand. I ended up scoring one hundred of

479
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Speaker 4: one hundred balls, and we needed to win that match

480
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Speaker 4: to make the final, and we'd never.

481
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Speaker 5: Not made the final for such a lot for maybe ever,

482
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Speaker 5: and and.

483
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Speaker 4: We were I don't know, I look on you know, honestly,

484
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Speaker 4: I can't even remember what we were when we were six.

485
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Speaker 2: For Oh I've looked at up Michael six for eighty two,

486
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Speaker 2: chasing two forty six to.

487
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Speaker 5: Forty six, so exactly.

488
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Speaker 4: And so that was that was a favorite because there

489
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Speaker 4: were a lot of runs to score, not many wickets down,

490
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Speaker 4: and it was a pressure situation. So that was probably

491
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Speaker 4: one of my favorites. And I also sort of recall

492
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Speaker 4: walking off that game and coming through the stands and

493
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Speaker 4: you know, just sort of seeing the sort of the

494
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Speaker 4: my teammates faces in terms of what I'd helped, you know, achieve.

495
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Speaker 4: You know, it sort of resonated really strongly and made

496
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Speaker 4: me feel pretty pretty good inside, you know. And there

497
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Speaker 4: was a there was a well, there was a there

498
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Speaker 4: was a series in South Africa where again they scored

499
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Speaker 4: close to three hundred or two ninety, and that they

500
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Speaker 4: were big scores back then and not you know, and

501
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Speaker 4: again we lost a couple of early wickets.

502
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Speaker 5: But they had a good attack and again from memory.

503
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Speaker 4: I got one hundred off one hundred and helped manufacture

504
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Speaker 4: a win you know there and then you know, obviously

505
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Speaker 4: the West Indies ninety ninety six West Indies quarter final

506
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Speaker 4: semi final against the West Indies were four point fifteen

507
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Speaker 4: and it was just survival. So I had quite a Yeah,

508
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Speaker 4: so I had quite quite quite a number of games

509
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Speaker 4: that I thought, well, you know, there's probably more pressure on,

510
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Speaker 4: you know than the last last ball.

511
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Speaker 5: Win in Sydney News Day.

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Speaker 4: So but it's like it's top five, Yes, but I

513
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Speaker 4: reckon there's three or four innings that I probably probably

514
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Speaker 4: think more highly off he.

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Speaker 1: And I guess there was also that World Cup match

516
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Speaker 1: against England in Port Elizabeth. You and Andy Bickle again

517
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Speaker 1: combined to get Australia over the line and again another

518
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Speaker 1: high stakes match.

519
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just relied on Andy. Really. He was. He

520
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Speaker 5: was the man.

521
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Speaker 4: He was a he was a great sort of you know,

522
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Speaker 4: bowling all around it to have at decrease, he was Yeah,

523
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Speaker 4: he had nerves as steel, high levels of confidence.

524
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Speaker 5: And you know, I guess one of my one of

525
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Speaker 5: the parts to.

526
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Speaker 4: My role is batting with lower and just kind of

527
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Speaker 4: get understanding and getting a feel for what they're capable of,

528
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Speaker 4: how to approach them, and you know, and yeah, and

529
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Speaker 4: he was definitely one of those guys who just let

530
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Speaker 4: him roll and roll with it because he thrived and

531
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Speaker 4: there was nothing I was going to say that that

532
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Speaker 4: would would help him switch on or or believe that

533
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Speaker 4: he wasn't going to win the match.

534
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Speaker 5: And so, yeah, yeah, that was a great series.

535
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Speaker 4: Obviously, we performed really well, and we had a couple

536
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Speaker 4: of tough, difficult matches on that wicket where it was

537
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Speaker 4: just popping and bouncing and it was hard to get

538
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Speaker 4: the spinners away, and you know, so there was a

539
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Speaker 4: couple of from memory like that two thousand and three

540
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Speaker 4: World Cup with minus warning, but we'd sort of progressed

541
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Speaker 4: as a team there that we were just kind of

542
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: good enough that no one really worried that warning was missing,

543
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Speaker 4: and we didn't really ever feel that we weren't going

544
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Speaker 4: to win the World Cup, even though, as you said,

545
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Speaker 4: there was a couple of tricky matches in Port Elizabeth,

546
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Speaker 4: it could have gone either way, so that they were

547
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Speaker 4: pretty fond memories. And also then there was I mean,

548
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Speaker 4: I think the favorite tournament for me was the ninety

549
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Speaker 4: nine World Cup, just quite simply because we we hadn't

550
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Speaker 4: really become a one day powerhouse by then, we just started.

551
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Speaker 5: That was the beginning of it, and.

552
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Speaker 4: We were kind of faced with because of a poor

553
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Speaker 4: start and the way that I think it was the

554
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Speaker 4: super sixth tournament from a memory that they had to

555
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Speaker 4: you know, we lost a couple of early ones, and

556
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Speaker 4: then we had to we had to win seven in

557
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Speaker 4: a row. And at that point in time, I'd only

558
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Speaker 4: ever played in an Australia one Day team that won

559
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Speaker 4: three matches in a row, So to win seven in

560
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Speaker 4: a row in a World Cup was quite amazing feeling.

561
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Speaker 4: And I think the real the great thing about that,

562
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Speaker 4: at least from my perspective, so we just had someone

563
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Speaker 4: in every game that just stood up and just had

564
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Speaker 4: a match winning performance when they really needed it. And

565
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Speaker 4: you know, like in most teams you have sort of

566
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Speaker 4: three or four match winners, whereas you know, just about

567
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Speaker 4: we had six or seven guys throughout the course, seven

568
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Speaker 4: guys throughout the course of those seven matches that stood

569
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Speaker 4: up and turned the match on its head whenever we

570
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Speaker 4: were struggling. So that that was probably probably my favorite

571
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Speaker 4: memory of my One day career in terms of the team,

572
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Speaker 4: team aspect and the team performance.

573
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Speaker 1: I just love those photos of the team on the

574
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Speaker 1: Lord's balcony after that win over Pakistan in the bright

575
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Speaker 1: yellow kit. I mean, it doesn't get much more iconic

576
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Speaker 1: than that.

577
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Speaker 4: I don't reckon, No, it was crazy, and you know,

578
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Speaker 4: and I think the from memory the final is a

579
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: bit of a letdown. And look, I think and I

580
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: know it doesn't happen nowadays because it's a global competition

581
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Speaker 4: and everyone gets planned different wickets, et cetera, et cetera.

582
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Speaker 4: But back then, you know, I had the same feeling,

583
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: the same feeling in the finals because I think we

584
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Speaker 4: played Pakistan ninety nine, we played India in the two

585
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: thousand and three and both wickets had a bit of

586
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: carry and bounce, and at that point in time, you know,

587
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Speaker 4: most of the cricket that the Indians and the Pakistani's

588
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: played were on on wickets, so so you know, you

589
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: sort of you're always peeping an eye on the first

590
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Speaker 4: over with clean McGrath bowling and seeing how much pace

591
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Speaker 4: and bounces in the wicket, and you know, through the

592
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Speaker 4: course of the first couple of of those matches, even

593
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Speaker 4: though they were World Cup finals.

594
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Speaker 5: I felt that we you know, we had a.

595
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Speaker 4: Very the condition suited us and so we had a

596
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Speaker 4: very good chance of winning both of those.

597
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Speaker 2: Really, that's great.

598
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Speaker 1: Where do you keep the World Cup medals? Are they

599
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: on display somewhere in your house?

600
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Speaker 4: Or yeah, in my lounde in my lounde room. And

601
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Speaker 4: which is which is like, it's it's it's difficult. It

602
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: was only have a small, well not a small unit,

603
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Speaker 4: but I have a unit. So I've got a sort

604
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Speaker 4: of put all the Michael Bevan fanboys stuff up in

605
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: the shirts or plastered across all the bedrooms and the

606
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Speaker 4: lounge rooms, and so, you know, I didn't have those

607
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Speaker 4: up for quite a while. It's only reasonably recently where

608
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Speaker 4: I've actually just started to really well, I sort of

609
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: reconnect with what I what I did in my career,

610
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Speaker 4: and you know, and to to revisit the memories more often.

611
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Speaker 4: And I had quite a lot of memorabilia, and I

612
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: got rid of kind of half of that to local

613
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: cricket teams and stuff like that. Still keep quite a bit,

614
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Speaker 4: probably I don't even know what I'm going to do

615
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: with it.

616
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Speaker 5: I've got a little bit, but you know.

617
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Speaker 4: Some of it's some of it's in the wardrobe and

618
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: some of it's out on the you know you out

619
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Speaker 4: about in the living areas and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: That's brilliant. Absolutely, the more of it the better.

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Speaker 1: Now, just before I let you go, Michael, last week,

622
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Speaker 1: rich Ol and I sort of asked our listeners who

623
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Speaker 1: are the best part time bowlers? And your name came

624
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: up from our listeners quite a bit. Do you reckon

625
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: you were under bold through your career or will you

626
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: bowl the right amount with your left arm wriskin?

627
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: Probably at times both over bold and under.

628
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 5: Bold, depending on how I was bowling.

629
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Speaker 4: It was a crazy situation bowling eyes. There was a

630
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: period there where I had obviously more from a part

631
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: timer into a probably nearly a regular bowler from memory,

632
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: and was picked as a regular bowler in front of

633
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: Paul Rifle, I believe on a green top in Port Elizabeth,

634
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: and and so look, there were I didn't enjoy bowling,

635
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: like I didn't have any confidence in in my bowlinging

636
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: the ball, which is kind of crazy that you can

637
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: get picked for playing a Test match as a bowler

638
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: and still not really be one hundred percent sure where

639
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: you're going to land. Them, and so there was a

640
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: little bit of trepidation and nervouness nurse around that role,

641
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 4: and also some some.

642
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: Irritation given that I was.

643
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: Meant to be a batsman and I hadn't really truly

644
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: cracked it Test team as a batsman, but my bowling

645
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 4: I took ten for an adelaide I think before I

646
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: scored a Test century, which obviously never eventuated. But so yeah, internally,

647
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: like you know, I was a little bit unsure at

648
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: times of bowl really well, and then I think it

649
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: sort of all came crashing down, Like I think I

650
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: was probably a genuine all rounder there for a while,

651
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Speaker 4: but it all came crashing down in the ashes in

652
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Speaker 4: ninety seven, I think, where my batting struggled and the

653
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Speaker 4: wickets were really.

654
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Speaker 5: Slow and I really relied on.

655
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Speaker 4: A bit of pop, a bit of bounce and I

656
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: was overspinning with the wrong and you know, I kind

657
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: of found that, you know, it was difficult to get

658
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Speaker 4: as much traction in England and back in Australia or

659
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Speaker 4: South Africa where I had success as a bowl or so, yeah, a.

660
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Speaker 5: Lot of up and down.

661
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Speaker 4: Series with my bowling and a bit hit and miss

662
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Speaker 4: at times, but yeah, certainly when I was bowling, well

663
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: they were they you know, I did a pretty good job.

664
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Speaker 1: Well, you got to take us back to Adelaide that

665
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: ten week at Hold. Not many people could say they've

666
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: got a ten week at Haul in Test cricket. What

667
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: happened that day?

668
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I actually landed them. And a really good

669
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: sign when you're bowling is you know, is when you

670
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: bowl you're wrong, and which is probably my major you know,

671
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 4: my major delivery, Like if guys can't pick my wrong

672
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: and I know I'm a big chance because.

673
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Speaker 5: You can get a you can get.

674
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Speaker 4: Away with bowling tripe and you'll get wickets because you know,

675
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: if if you pitch it a little bit short or

676
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: a little bit fuller, they actually can't, you know, they're

677
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: unsure of whether it's a wrong.

678
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 5: And I probably had about to rollin spur Over and I.

679
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Speaker 4: Just think the West Indies, look, they got me on

680
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: it on a day and in a Test where I

681
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: actually landed them pretty well, and they weren't look they

682
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Speaker 4: were they were, they didn't really pick it like I

683
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: think Glara picked my wrong and and so he had

684
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: an easier time against me than some of the other batsmen.

685
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Speaker 5: Some of the right handers, you know, and again.

686
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: They were all right handers and so the wrong and

687
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: became you know, a tough a tough delivery when I

688
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: landed it away to the slips. So yeah, like I was,

689
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 4: you know, that was a good you know, I'd just

690
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: come back into the the Test arena and you know

691
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 4: at the time I happened to be batting well as well.

692
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like when I was batting.

693
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Speaker 4: Well the you know, there's a bit of confidence here

694
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Speaker 4: with the ball as well, and particularly when teams didn't

695
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 4: pick my wrong, in which South Africa didn't, West Indies didn't,

696
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 4: England didn't either, but because the wicket was so slow,

697
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 4: they could adjust and so look I always did better

698
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: as a as a as a bowler when they couldn't

699
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: pick my wrong for sure.

700
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Speaker 2: And look I'm just looking at the scorecard now you've

701
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Speaker 2: got Shane Warn bowling at the other end as well,

702
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Speaker 2: So bowling in Tandebeth Warning, I mean, what a dream

703
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: that is.

704
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember times in South Africa and obviously the

705
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: West Indies as well, and of course it does make

706
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: it you know, you have to give cutos to your teammates. Well,

707
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: I do you know, because they were just so good

708
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: in creating pressure, both defensive and offensive pressure.

709
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Speaker 5: You know, guys like.

710
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: Warning, the Glenn Dizzy, you know, all those guys they

711
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: were you know, they were world class bowlers and and

712
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: so you know, they're always they're always going to create

713
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: pressure and wickets from the other end as well. So

714
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Speaker 4: I really, you know, if I landed them anywhere near

715
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: where are good, good areas, then you know wickets were

716
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Speaker 4: going to follow.

717
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Speaker 1: Excellent Michael, Well, thanks for your time and thanks for

718
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: running us through some of the highlights of your great career.

719
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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the Michael Bevan Award as well.

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Speaker 5: Yes, thanks you just so much appreciated.

721
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Speaker 1: The finisher Richo one of the great nicknames as well,

722
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: not just great player with great nickname, and maybe that'll

723
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: have to be a top four for future episodes as

724
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: the best nicknames. But when it came to chasing in

725
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: one day cricket domestic, whether international or for New South

726
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: Wales of for Tasmania, there was none better than Michael Bevan.

727
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Speaker 3: Well, he's the pioneer, wasn't he of as he talks

728
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: about in that chat, But he was kind of the

729
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: first to be tagged with that nickname, and there's been

730
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Speaker 3: a few that have been you know, it's been bear

731
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Speaker 3: need around since. But there's only one. Really, there's only

732
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Speaker 3: one finisher, isn't there. But we've seen kind of ms

733
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: DONI take on that that role I guess for India

734
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: for so long and making an identity for himself. And

735
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Speaker 3: then obviously James Faulkner was the modern day version of

736
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Speaker 3: Michael Bevan. But the I think when you look at

737
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Speaker 3: his stats and the longevity and no matter who he

738
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: played for, you know, he played for three states and Australia,

739
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: he did it. He played that same role for everyone

740
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Speaker 3: and if he was batting at three or four in

741
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: domestic cricket, he still he'd still be not out at

742
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: the end of the innings, or if he'd bat at

743
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: six for austral Obviously it was somehow a lot easier

744
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: for him to make that mark. But it's also that

745
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: is now filled into the way you know, t twenty teams,

746
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: one day teams are built now players in that role

747
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: to finish in innings. It's such a big part of

748
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: the batting order, whereas I'm sure back in the nineties

749
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: and early two thousands you're probably just picking your best

750
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: six batsman that you can fit in the six and

751
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: then just kind of working it out whereas guys have

752
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: a role. You know, Tim David was playing that for

753
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 3: so long in T twenty cricket. So he's a pioneer

754
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: and he probably deserves a lot more. You know, you

755
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: don't hear his name as much when One day crickets

756
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: spoken about, but he's such a pioneer and set up

757
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: that role for people to enjoy now. And yeah, I

758
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: was just looking at his one day stats before and

759
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: he touches on the nine finals, which in itself is

760
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: crazy to play. I mean nine seasons to make finals,

761
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: win five of them. But he also made over three

762
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: thousand runs and averages sixty one. I did seventy eight times,

763
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 3: and twenty five of those times he didn't get out,

764
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: which is just under one in three. So if anyone

765
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: going around who played against him back then, who actually

766
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: got him out, well done to you.

767
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: Well that's a good point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's probably a couple of runouts in there,

769
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Speaker 3: so they're pretty rare. The old Michael Bevan dismissals, So

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: what a player.

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Speaker 1: And so there his domestic cricket numbers, I think in

772
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Speaker 1: the average mid fifties hit and oak as well, so.

773
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: He actually dipped a bit warmly played for Australia, but

774
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: again incredible like to average that over a long period

775
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 3: of time. And I remember watching him as a kid.

776
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: He was my favorite player. I actually had a pet

777
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: bird and I named it Bevan really fun fact, so

778
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: there you go. He was. He was like, and I

779
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: wanted the Milli Champion Hall or a Puma that he

780
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: used to use classic. I think they're making a comeback

781
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: by the way. Yeah, big big fan of Bevans type

782
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: of bird, budgy like in the Green and Gold as well. Man,

783
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: it was a green and gold bird, so there he goes.

784
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Speaker 3: So I wasn't as clued into his domestic feats back then.

785
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: I was more watching his Australian stuff, but I was

786
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Speaker 3: a big Bevin fan. Yeah, Bevo, I don't know what

787
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Speaker 3: to do with that information.

788
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: I've lost my train of thought.

789
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Speaker 3: But there's a future Big Four as well, well, which

790
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: is pet names. You know, we're running out of content here.

791
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Speaker 3: I'll leave the Big Four to.

792
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Speaker 1: You, okay, Yeah, I'll take care of today's that's for sure.

793
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Speaker 1: And then it was nice that we also got to

794
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Speaker 1: ask him about some of those less listener questions or

795
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: listener responses about him being under bold, and he made

796
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: a good point while I've taken a ten wick at

797
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Speaker 1: Halle in a Test match, so I wasn't necessarily under bold.

798
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Speaker 1: And we've managed to dig out some of those wickets

799
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Speaker 1: as well from the archives, so stay tuned for those

800
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Speaker 1: as well. But thanks to Michael Bevan for giving us

801
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Speaker 1: his time and having that chat with us. Let's talk

802
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: about the sheffid Shield Final which is now locked in.

803
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Speaker 1: It's going to be Victoria and you're old mob South

804
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Australia taking it taking it to each other for five

805
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: days at the Junction Oval for March twenty six. The

806
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: Sacker Now they've been in the competition since eighteen ninety two,

807
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: rich oh, they've never managed to go back to back

808
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: and back in the late eighteen hundreds it was only

809
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: a three team competition, so you've got a good opportunity.

810
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: They never managed to do it then could they do

811
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: it now? Brendan Doggett is a touch and go for

812
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: that final. He would be a huge inclusion if they

813
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: can bring him in. But they've got plenty of pace

814
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: yep as well, don't they? The Sackers and so to

815
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: Victoria and maybe that's been a bit of a theme

816
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: of this season. Most of the topic could takers have

817
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: been quicks as has been the case for the last

818
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: few years, and the two sides got to have a

819
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: bit of a look at each other this week as well,

820
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: playing out a bit of a tame draw with a

821
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: bit of weather around in yeah, Melbourne, so hopefully hopefully

822
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: some clear skies for that final when the week comes around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit of an odd one knowing

824
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 3: that the possible scenario is going to pit two teams

825
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: against each other again at the same venue a few

826
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Speaker 3: weeks later. So once that Queenslane kind of ran out

827
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Speaker 3: of the opportunity of that game. I mean, the spice

828
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: was taken out of it, and everyone's looking forward to

829
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Speaker 3: the final when they so you say they got to

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Speaker 3: look at it, look at it, Chada, I'd probably say

831
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Speaker 3: they didn't show much of Yeah. Wow, I mean in

832
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: saying that everyone knows exactly what everyone does down to

833
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: a te so but yeah, definitely fizzled out and everyone's

834
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Speaker 3: probably preserving themselves for the big dance now. So but

835
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Speaker 3: in saying that, Brendan Hugget hasn't played or didn't play

836
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: in that game and it hasn't played for a while.

837
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Speaker 3: So to get him back a bit of a Shield

838
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: final specialist, which we've said, so that'll be a huge

839
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: inclusion for South Australia and just to get themselves back

840
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: into the opportunity to defend their shield is a pretty

841
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: good achievement because they weren't looking likely kind of at

842
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: the big Bash break. They've they've turned it around really well.

843
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: And again, as you said, it's all been on the

844
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: back of well as the same for victory, but the

845
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: bowling attacks have been outstanding and they have been for

846
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: a period of time now for South Australia, especially with McAndrew.

847
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: You know, you've got a range of ballers there, but

848
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Speaker 3: the core that's kept them together over this last couple

849
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: of years and even going back a bit further is

850
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: a big part of their success. But also getting Alex

851
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: carry back from the Ashes and chucking him into that

852
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: middle order as they did last year in their Shield win.

853
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think they'll be quietly confident. I know

854
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: it's hard winning away, but with the new rules with

855
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: the Shield and not being able to just be a

856
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: boring draw, it's going to bring them into the game.

857
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: Ok yeah, okay, And so as Jake Cleman said, they've

858
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: they lost their first two games of this season in

859
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: South Australia, but since then they haven't actually lost, so

860
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: giving them a chance or Victoria have been so dominant

861
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: this season, so obviously deserve to go in favorites. But

862
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: can you see world where South Astralia do upset the Victorians.

863
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: I think you can with just the way the pitchers

864
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: have made these days. And again you can't really just

865
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: produce a boring It's going to be a good wick here.

866
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: It's not as if they're going to make it a

867
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: typical green seema. But I think over the course of

868
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 3: five days there will be in an opportunity for South Australia.

869
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: You know, there'll be an opportunity of the game for

870
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: them to be able to take and get in a

871
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: strong position. We saw that with Queensland even last year.

872
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: It is hard winning away in a five day game,

873
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: but there's always an opportunity at some point to take

874
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 3: that and be in the game. So that will confront

875
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: them at some point. But it is hard, it's definitely hard.

876
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 3: And Victoria I've had a dominant season. They're basically guaranteed

877
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: of being in the Shill Final back at the Big Bash,

878
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: like it felt that way anyway, so they're definitely going

879
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: to be confident. But yeah, I dare say there's a

880
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 3: good opportunity that South Australia can I don't know, I

881
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: don't know how you would say it, but there'll be

882
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: an opportunity for them to win the game or at

883
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: least get themselves in their position to win the game.

884
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: It's just whether or not they can they can really

885
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: capitalize on it. So again, it's great to see that

886
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: finals now are the way they are and it's not

887
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 3: just going to be the old you know, nine hundred

888
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: You remember that gomes back in the early two thousand,

889
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: which in himself, I mean, you wouldn't want to watch

890
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: the live stream, no, but it'd be great to check

891
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: the scores and be like, wow, they're on seven hundred

892
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: four down they just lost their fourth like that in

893
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: itself was because that takes some skill. But it is

894
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: nice to see games that are games and people trying

895
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: to win.

896
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, it's a bit fascicle though when you get

897
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: to five for nine hundred.

898
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: Isn't it It is a little bit, but then you

899
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: get part times bowling and as we've spoken about last

900
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: couple week, cricket lovers, we do love watching people who

901
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: don't usually bowl get an opportunity.

902
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: Now Victoria, they will obviously have their captain Will Sutherland,

903
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: and they'll have Scott Bowland, who's been on fire in

904
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: this competition. But then they've got to work out who

905
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: else fits into their bowling attack. They've had Sam Elliott

906
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: who's been taking which it's for fun this season. Mitch

907
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Perry has got a couple of five fers. Fergus O'Neill

908
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: has an incredible chef which you're bowling average. Todd Murphy

909
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: he's a pretty handy off spinner. How do you fit

910
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: all them into an eleven?

911
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: It's a good point. Who didn't play in this last week?

912
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: I didn't play. I didn't pay attention to that Will Sutherland,

913
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: was he manage or did he play? Have to check

914
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: this scorecard with THEE. But now Will was there, I

915
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: would dare say that all of them can bat.

916
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes it tough too, But.

917
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 3: Then I'm like, well, can you find a way to

918
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: play them all as well? I know, well there's going

919
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: to be someone unlike because you can't fit them all in.

920
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously Will's captain, so he's in. Scott

921
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: Bland's first picked. Fergus o'neils arguably second picked. You're going

922
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: to need a spinner. Sam Elliot's made a pretty good

923
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: case too be third picked. He can also bat. He's

924
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: very handy with the bat, so I mean minch Perry

925
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: is the one there who's probably unlucky, but again he

926
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: can bat. He's had a good year especially he's come

927
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 3: into form in the last few rounds, so good luck.

928
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: Tough on the was ferguson neil who was left out

929
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: obviously resting, But yeah, it's going to be a selection crunch,

930
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: which good teams well often have, don't they.

931
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: That's often the result of a strong season and a

932
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: good team is that someone is going to be left out.

933
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: So been there the one season actually had a good

934
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: year in child cricket, actually ran the drinks in al Springs.

935
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 3: That was the end of my shill career. So you've

936
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: shared that one.

937
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a real but.

938
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: That was my decision to be like, well stuff this format,

939
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm not playing it anymore. But I es they would

940
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: look forward Mitch Perry's a young kid. If he does

941
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: miss out and we're speculating here, but he'll get another

942
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 3: opportunity at some point in the next five ten years.

943
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: You would think, how quickly did you make a decision

944
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: to throw them?

945
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: I think it was as the coin went out tay one.

946
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: That was a long five days now.

947
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: It was a bit of a dead rubber out of cricket.

948
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Central New South Wales took on WA in the final

949
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: matches for both Greg Ship and Adam Vergas as their

950
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: head coaches. And even though there was nothing on the line,

951
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: we've got a great finish four overs to go. Sean

952
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: Abott had just taken the eighth wicket of the w

953
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: A eating Westerners. I can't win this match, so they're

954
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: trying to hold on for a draw and then the

955
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: umpires say the light's too bad. You have to knoww

956
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: your spinners. I thought that was a bit of a shame,

957
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: but you know, safety comes first. And then Joel Davies

958
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: manages to get a wicked in the final over and

959
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: then has three balls to get out Esther Hazen the

960
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: new number eleven. He gets off strike and Corey rocket

961
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: Jolie some great names down there in that lower order

962
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: manages to hang on. So that was a fun way

963
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: to finish the regular season, wasn't it.

964
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: It is It's always good to see games go down

965
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: to that kind of Yeah, the last over and you

966
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: got eleven Blokes Award and you've got wives. Salzman was

967
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 3: bowling part time spin because he's he's normally a quick

968
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: but he's coming off a really bad hamstring injury, so

969
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: thrown the ball to him. Yeah, and he actually looked right,

970
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: to be honest, So interesting. Yeah, it's always I mean,

971
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: for the last game of the year, you want to

972
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: go on a bit of tense action, don't you, and

973
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: a result they can happened. So yeah, with some good viewing.

974
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: Cam Green back in the runs for w A in

975
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: that game as well, which is always nice to see

976
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: again big names go back to State cricket and kind

977
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: of show everyone again how good they are. So Rocketcolie

978
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: with five wickets, so he's a name going forward that's

979
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: again going to keep being around the mark for that

980
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: spinner spot if theory ever is one that vacates. So

981
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: but yeah, mainly the talking point was about the coaches,

982
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: but it was it was a pretty good game.

983
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: Of cricket that got played and Tasmania.

984
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: They smashed Queensland down in Hobart, a real missed opportunity

985
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: for the Bulls there. Unfortunately they're batting just didn't quite

986
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: click at the end of this season. They were sitting

987
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: in second place for a good bit of this second

988
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: half of this season and just sort of fell away

989
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: at the end. So disappointing a result for them, but

990
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: Tazzy they managed to finish with a really strong win

991
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: and potentially take some momentum into next season.

992
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that'd be disappointed again, no doubt. With I

993
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: tipped them. I just had this weird feeling they would

994
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: with Jackson byrd back and as we talked about before

995
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: the I feel like they've got a good depth of

996
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 3: fast bowling there now, so I feel like there was

997
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 3: a bit of a missed opportunity for them. But as

998
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: you say, there's there is always next year and for

999
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: queens And yeah, they'll be kicking themselves, no doubt, because

1000
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: it was there for them, that opportunity in the first

1001
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: innings with the bat to really capitalize and put themselves

1002
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 3: in the opportunity to play in the shilld Final again

1003
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 3: like they did last year it would have been away

1004
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: from home, but you'd learn your lessons from kind of

1005
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: how last year's final went. What can you do better.

1006
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: You've got big names in that team that came back.

1007
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: I mean Usmond Kwaja's domestic career or four d a

1008
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: career is now done so and he missed this game

1009
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: the through paternity leave. So yeah, they'll be disappointed. Michael Nessa.

1010
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: You know all these guys, they're just they're going to

1011
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 3: be another year old and you might not get that

1012
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: opportunity again. So again, to be an opportunity to play

1013
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: Shill finals is what it's all about. But then to

1014
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: kind of miss the opportunity is a bit of a kicker.

1015
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, they'll be disappointed. As they hit their mad

1016
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: Mondays around the.

1017
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: Country and from Queensland's point of view, they were smashed

1018
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: with injuries. Yeah, but in the bowling department, so it

1019
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: must be said that it feels funny that it hasn't

1020
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: been their bowling that's lewed down.

1021
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: It's been the batting.

1022
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, as you said, they've probably had to

1023
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: do a Bricket Creek hotel and have a few jars

1024
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: just to see off the season.

1025
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 3: I imagine yeah, they're probably not alone. It's four other

1026
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: states doll on the same thing, isn't it. So yeah,

1027
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: it's always it's a weird time of year because I'm

1028
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: sure some of the bowlers have had really long Like

1029
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 3: Cameron Gannon, I'm pretty sure he played basically every Shield game.

1030
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: He did ye every time, which is amazing achievement at

1031
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: his age. So he'd be probably enjoying waking up today

1032
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: and having a beer the Sarva and looking forward to

1033
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: a few weeks off, whereas I think there'd be some

1034
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: other guys who wake up and the disappointment of not

1035
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 3: being able to capitalize on again another year. Everyone's another

1036
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: year older. These opportunities don't always come around, so it's

1037
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: probably not something we're focused on enough. Is those domestic

1038
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: cricket guys who don't always get to play for Australia

1039
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: like a Cameron Gannon, but have these amazing domestic careers.

1040
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: You know, you want to be winning trophies and WA

1041
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: have had two years now down the bottom. So new

1042
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: coach coming in for them that'll be an opportunity to

1043
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 3: bounce back. But yeah, it's a weird timmy year for sure.

1044
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: Leading week taker Liam Hatcher. He's doing a drink too.

1045
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I reckon amazing effort from him. Nine games and forty

1046
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: three or forty four wickets, so certainly break that year

1047
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: from him absolutely.

1048
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: I think he took another half a dozen for this game.

1049
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: So to do it at that ground as well, I'd

1050
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: like to play a few games at Cricket Central. It's

1051
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: pretty flat there, so we talk about semi friendly conditions

1052
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: in the shield at the moment, but probably not. He's

1053
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: probably the one guy wh's be like, hang on, what

1054
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 3: about me? So he's at a good age going forward

1055
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: where if he can put together another strong summer next

1056
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: year with as we've spoken about it at length, the

1057
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: age of our our quicks in the national team, he

1058
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: could be something that kind of comes from nowhere and

1059
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: puts his hand up.

1060
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

1061
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: WNCL Final that's coming up on Saturday as well. This

1062
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: week it's going to be New South Wales hosting Queensland

1063
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: at Cricket Central. Honeston and Sam Bates they're playing on

1064
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: opposition teams, but they both play their one hundredth match

1065
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: in the competition over the weekend. Jonathon conversely, has played

1066
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: all one hundred for Quensane, whereas Baits has played for

1067
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: ACT Tasmania, Victoria and now in New South walesa so

1068
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: really doing the rounds there and she's been a consistent

1069
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: performer everywhere she's gone. Katie Mack recently announced or just

1070
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: on Wednesday as we're recording, as the player of the tournament.

1071
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: Another great season for her, so consistent. She's been dismissed

1072
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: in the nineties three times this season, unfortunate for her.

1073
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: But it's the first time anybody's ever managed that feed

1074
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: in the WNCL, So a little bit of a history.

1075
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: Maybe not one year what but you'd rather a ninety

1076
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: than a zero, wouldn't.

1077
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say. So there'd be

1078
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: a record for someone who's made the most ducks and yeah,

1079
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't be her exactly. No, she's had a great season,

1080
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 3: same in the big batch, so that'd be a really

1081
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: good final bit of a State of Origin finals the

1082
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: SA Victoria, the AFL True and then Queens and New

1083
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: South obviously in the rugby league department, So two storied rivals,

1084
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: two storied rivals in two different areas of the country.

1085
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: So be some passionate supporters getting getting amongst or down

1086
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: to those games as well.

1087
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Do you feel that rivalry when you're playing for South Australia.

1088
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: Is there that hatred or despise of other teams or

1089
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: is it a bit different in cricket circles.

1090
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 3: Well, I was. I was raised being South AUSI to

1091
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: not like Victorians like that was a big thing. Like

1092
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: the kickovick was quite a big thing, wasn't it. You're

1093
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: a Victorian, Yeah did you?

1094
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: Well, we didn't hear that because yeah.

1095
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: But it was probably a smaller like a little brother.

1096
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: So you wouldn't have a hatred towards South Australia because Victorian.

1097
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 3: That's why we that's what we hated Victorians.

1098
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: Like Australia New Zealand.

1099
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a little bit of that isn't a little

1100
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: brother thing. So there was definitely definitely that. And if

1101
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 3: you're raised on the like I said, the AFL state

1102
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: of origin that was that was quite a big part

1103
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 3: of it as well. And that's the same inquison you

1104
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 3: So kids are raised watching rugby league, state of origin,

1105
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: you pick a team or wherever you're born you affiliate with.

1106
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 3: So I'm not commenting for them, but I was definitely

1107
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: raised as kay when I played Victoria and cricket. It

1108
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: was like, go a little bit harder, but also insane

1109
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 3: that it's amazing and they're full of like basically an

1110
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: international team. So I say that, but I definitely didn't

1111
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: say anything on the field to show my hatred.

1112
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: So good luck to both the Breakers and the Fire.

1113
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: This week in the WSCLF, Who's you pick? You said,

1114
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: I've only lost one match this season. They're playing at home.

1115
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: Alissa Healy is going to be playing in her final

1116
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: match of cricket. They're going to be keen to see

1117
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: her off on a high. This is it, Tarlie Wilson,

1118
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: she's been a star. She's just been picked in her

1119
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: first audio squad and she's on the Scoop podcast this

1120
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: week as well, so if you want to hear from.

1121
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Talia a Scoop podcast.

1122
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: I would love to see the Fire make amends for

1123
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: last season, but I think I have to if I'm tipping,

1124
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be tipping the Breakers.

1125
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: Yep, that's fair. Yeah at home, I think so. Like

1126
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: you said, the season has been pretty amazing, but you

1127
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 3: just never known vinyls do you what about in the shield?

1128
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

1129
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: What's your feel shield? We've got a little bit of.

1130
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: Time, yeah, and talk about the time we sit on that.

1131
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Okay, sit on that, but we'd love like to hear

1132
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: who our listeners think. Yep, it's going to do well,

1133
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: so send them in podcast. Cricket dot com dot you

1134
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: is the place to do that, or on Instagram if

1135
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: you want. And speaking of that early I squad.

1136
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: Rich.

1137
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: Oh, we've got astray over in the West Indies at

1138
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: the minute playing some women's internationals. They're playing three T

1139
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: twenties in St. Vincent, beautiful little Caribbean island there. Those

1140
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: matches are early morning for Australia on March twenty, twenty

1141
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: two and twenty four, really good times and actually I

1142
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: think they're starting at nine or ten in the morning

1143
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: and they're available on Disney Plus, so if you have

1144
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: that streaming of us then you'll be able to watch.

1145
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: And then some matches in St Kits free Odi eyes

1146
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: March twenty eight, March thirty and April third. So it's

1147
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: a very short and sharp little series, but a nice

1148
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: warm up for the T twenty World Cup. I think

1149
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: you said you haven't been to Saint Vincent, but I

1150
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: was there two years ago for the T twenty World

1151
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Cup and it was a really beautiful ground, just a

1152
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: tiny island really, and it was the match where Afghanistan

1153
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 1: beat Australia in that crucial pool match or Super six match,

1154
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: and we were watching the game in Afghanistan. We're getting

1155
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: close to victory. I think they just hit a four

1156
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: or taken a wicket. I can't remember if they were

1157
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: fielding first or batting first. And there wasn't much of

1158
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: a crowd there, but we felt a bit of a

1159
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: shake in the grandstand as if you know, there's been

1160
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: a big roar. We only learned later that the ground

1161
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: was hit by an earthquake during the match, so the

1162
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: shake we felt was actually the trend of seismic activity.

1163
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: So what was the number on the Richter scales?

1164
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: Is your six point seven? I think in the end,

1165
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: so decent, not small? Yeah?

1166
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: Is that a common common.

1167
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: Thing there that I have no idea.

1168
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: I didn't sort of once off look into it, but

1169
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: it sort of matched that well with Australia getting shaken

1170
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: out of that tournament at the same time. So that's

1171
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: my little memory of Saint Vincent and I'd love to

1172
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: go back on there.

1173
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you didn't get to go on this tour, but

1174
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: as always a future tour program, there's I'm sure you'll

1175
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: get I'm sure we get another. I actually never went

1176
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: to the caravan. That was the one place I never

1177
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: got to. Well, never toured.

1178
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: That's a shame.

1179
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: So but there was one during COVID, so I'm not

1180
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: sure it would have been the same. I withdrew from that,

1181
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: but even if I went, I'm not sure it would

1182
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: have been the same experience. Although I'm pretty sure the

1183
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: boys went on a massive boat at some point had

1184
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: a party, so maybe I should.

1185
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: Have that sounds fun.

1186
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: Should have gone.

1187
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: Caravan Premier League never came across your desk.

1188
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: Apparently it was. It was a real tough one for Well.

1189
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: I think the time was leading into the Australian season,

1190
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 3: so I was always hard as a policy to get

1191
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: over there, but also a lot of.

1192
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: Travel between Iland. Oh that's true.

1193
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, even getting there was a big commitment. So yeah, yeah,

1194
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: never got as across the desk to that one. Maybe

1195
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: one day as a coach or a journal you never know. Yeah, okay, okay,

1196
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: maybe we'll do it together one day.

1197
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: Sounds good to me.

1198
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: Let's say a quick break when we come back. We'll

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Speaker 1: get stuck into this week's Big Four, looking at the

1200
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: best Grand Finals this century. Okay, Richard, we've had some

1201
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: listener feedback. A couple of weeks ago. We got you

1202
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: to talk about your favorite bowling actions past or present.

1203
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: A lot of people agreed with your list, including Adam Rompel.

1204
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: He said, very good list, rich O. Shane Bond definitely

1205
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: underrated and they got a lot of likes, So thank you, Adam.

1206
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: I can't go wrong with Shane Bond. And Lord Humongous

1207
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: said Chris Can's had a good at bowling action as well,

1208
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: another New Zealander. Yeah, maybe a little bit on the nose.

1209
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably we'll leave that one.

1210
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: There, Okay.

1211
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Locke, Simon Jones, Okay, he's speaking of underrated two

1212
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: thousand and five.

1213
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: That is strong, strong action, smooth smooth. Yep. He was good.

1214
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: He was very good.

1215
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: He could swing.

1216
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: I always think of him the Poor when he did

1217
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 3: his knee at the Gabba that first test. I know

1218
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: he came back after that or was that after the five?

1219
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: Now that yeah, two obviously five peaked a peak of

1220
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: his powers, but I always think of that knee injury

1221
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: the Poor like first day yet Yeah, terrible, but he was.

1222
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: He was a gun.

1223
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: Should fast bawlers be sliding around in the airfield?

1224
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: Look at him these days, they're everywhere, so yes, okay.

1225
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: And then dill Park he gave us a triple threat.

1226
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: He went Anderson at gram and Stein. Sorry Stain, he's

1227
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: he is.

1228
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 3: I did miss on that, but I kind of, I

1229
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: kind of said, Jordan Buckingham reminds me of it, did

1230
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: stay and I could have easily gone to him. He's

1231
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 3: definitely built again, built in a laboratory for fast bowling.

1232
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: Dal Stain, apart from his high which is probably what

1233
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: made him so amazing, igine if he was six seven

1234
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 3: like more name Morca was like, there's another one with

1235
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: the Akram and Jimmy, Yeah.

1236
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: Their own He's no wrong.

1237
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's everyone's opinion, isn't it. Everyone's taste. Everyone has

1238
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: different tastes. Left handed, well, left arms versus right arms swing.

1239
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: You know, everyone's got their own. Everyone's got their own. Look.

1240
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: Did you play against al Stand in the Big Bash?

1241
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did? Yeah?

1242
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: Did he have the crazy eyes going well?

1243
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: I think I faced last ball of the innings right

1244
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: when he was playing for the Stars. Yeah, yeah, And

1245
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: it was just a little white York at the hip

1246
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,479
Speaker 3: for one, so yeah, I was striking one hundred too,

1247
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,479
Speaker 3: but he didn't have crazy eyes because it was Yeah,

1248
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: he was just kind of going through the motions pretty well.

1249
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 3: I think he had like three for twenty or four.

1250
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: But he was again one of those through the form

1251
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 3: my kind of twenties that every time he bowled on

1252
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: to watch. So absolutely and a beautiful one of the

1253
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 3: best blocks going around.

1254
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, great, So this week's top four richro to

1255
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: finish us off this week is the best Grand Finals

1256
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: this century because obviously we've got the WNCL coming after

1257
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: One Day Cups just finished Sheffield Shield. Next week it's

1258
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: trophy season's final season. Oscars, So oscars this week? Are they?

1259
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: So I've gone through the best.

1260
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: Now I've gone domestic and international and so obviously a

1261
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: lot to choose from. So a rattle through these I'll

1262
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: get your opinion.

1263
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: First.

1264
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: I've gone for the twenty ten T twenty World Cup

1265
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean and Australia Women's beat New Zealand by

1266
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: three runs. Sophie Devine last ball Evenings five to win

1267
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: off one ball, she smashed it straight back of the

1268
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: Elise Perry and Perry's put her foot out stopped the

1269
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: full stopped it going to a super over. Australia win

1270
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: and the Australian men's team are there watching as well.

1271
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: You don't get to see that very often. It's a

1272
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: nice wholesome moment. Australia win that one in Bridgetown. Number three,

1273
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: I've got the BBL four Final six and scorches Brettley's

1274
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: final game. Incredible finish, couple wickets and then a run off.

1275
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: The final ball could have gone either way that one. Yeah,

1276
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: so that was a classic. I've gone the twenty twenty

1277
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: three ODI Mentor Cup Australia beating India at the Metabad.

1278
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: Pretty incredible stuff. They'd look untouchable all tournament in Australia

1279
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: thanks to Travis Head. Just get the job done. And

1280
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: then number one, I've gone for the Riobi Cup. Finally,

1281
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: twenty eleven twelve South Australia and Tasmania tied match no

1282
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: super over in the playing conditions that year. A tie

1283
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: is good enough for South Australia and Gary Putland is

1284
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: the hero.

1285
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: For Iceman the finish Southustralia.

1286
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the finish he was he went by the iceman

1287
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: the iceman from that night on Yeah, and so we

1288
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: actually did an in depth look at that match on

1289
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: Stories after Stumps, So jump over onto that podcast if

1290
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: you want to have a listen to Gary Putland and

1291
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: Theodore Appolis Daniel Harris that those sorts of guys and

1292
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: cross wait reminisce about that particular night where Ricky Ponting

1293
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: was running without pads at the non strikers end at

1294
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: the end of that.

1295
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 3: Match, famous one that so I had to in case

1296
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: you missed them, which I didn't think you would, but

1297
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: it was that one and the BBL fourth Finals. So

1298
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 3: Bradley's last game camera of all places.

1299
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: And neutral final venue.

1300
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: Can we can we can someone tell us why that was.

1301
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: I think they just wanted to try it out and

1302
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: make sure that there was no homered that was scheduled

1303
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: pre Yeah, it was well before the start of the.

1304
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: Season, adelaide. It was in camera, that's right, So trying

1305
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: to make a bit of a I think, right. Okay,

1306
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: so that lasted one year, but it was a great game.

1307
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: Brettley's last Moses Enriquez luffed at. Sorry to bring it

1308
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 3: up though that it happened. That was a good throw

1309
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: I think who threw it in.

1310
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: Was it Michael Lum possibly, Yeah, because all of the

1311
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: field was in.

1312
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Fada he bowled such a good last over, dragged

1313
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: them back and storied rivalry again between those two. So

1314
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: I had the chainsaw going out, like we spoke about

1315
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: as a couple of times, that was that was a

1316
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: great final. And then well, I'm going to be biased BBLA.

1317
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to mention that, Yeah, well

1318
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 3: it wasn't a classic final. It kind of was, I think,

1319
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: I think because it didn't go down to the why

1320
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: the result was known probably with two oves to go

1321
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: in the game, but I think the twist in the

1322
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: game and being between two Melbourne teams neither had won,

1323
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 3: it was on toast. Yeah. That that's probably the other

1324
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: honorable fifth.

1325
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: Definitely, because a lot of the international finals I sort

1326
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: of scanned over haven't been that close. So I'm glad

1327
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: we've had some good bbl's and some good One Day

1328
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: Cup finishes.

1329
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: And there every year, aren't they. So we're going to

1330
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 3: get like, yeah, the World Cup onths every four or

1331
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 3: every two years, so it's probably harder to think back

1332
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 3: whereas BBL every single year and you want a close one,

1333
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: and you want one that you can talk about the

1334
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 3: next however long. And that's a pretty good list.

1335
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: I've done pretty well.

1336
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 3: Send him in if you think of any others.

1337
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: No doubt we'll have some good nominations that we missed,

1338
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: because as you say, there's plenty that happened every year,

1339
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: so there'll be a few good ones in there.

1340
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, has there ever been a super other and

1341
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 3: there hasn't has a big gush final semi. I can't

1342
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: think of any that would be awesome.

1343
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that.

1344
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 3: That's high high pressure.

1345
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: All right, we'll have to come back next week and

1346
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: finish this off.

1347
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: Rich Oh, always a pleasure.