WEBVTT - The Kyle & Jackie O show colleagues clash: Intern Pete vs Tom Whittaker 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.240 You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.400 You can choose your friends, but you can't choose your coworkers. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:23.279 But what happens when office disputes continue when you're off 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.200 the clock. That's when you come to my courtroom. I 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.240 am Judge Gina, and my decision is final. You better 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:32.560 be ready to hear my ruling. 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.440 Carpauling is good for the environment, but is it good 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.559 for colleague relations. Pete Deppler has brought Tom Whittaker to 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:46.800 Judge Gina's courtroom for carpooling compensation. Pete is seeking two 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:51.640 six hundred dollars from Tom as reimbursement for petrol and tolls. 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.440 My Dame's Peter Deppler aka intern Pete from the Kyle 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.120 and Jackie O Show. I've come on Judge Gina today 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.360 because my best friend Tom me thousands of dollars in 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.200 fuel money. My name is Tom Whitaker. I'm from the 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.240 Kylin Jackie O Show. I'm want Judge Gina today because 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.000 my former friend Pete is trying to, I guess sue 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.120 me for money because he thinks that I owe him 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.440 money for him driving me into work. I've known Tom 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.080 for around about fifteen years. I'll consider him a very 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.840 close friend. Tom really looked up to me as a mentor. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.320 My relationship with Pete was friends and work colleagues, I 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.520 would say now probably just work colleagues, depending on the 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.400 outcome of this. I want justice for anyone who gives 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.480 someone a lyft, who does a pitch in fuel money. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.399 Hopefully out of today my name gets cleared because it's 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.279 been smudged in the dirt by Pete for no reason 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.480 with his lies. I just want to be cleared. I'm innocent. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:53.800 Court is now in session. Please rise the judge, Gina. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.400 Pete, you are the complainant today. Why are you in 0:01:58.480 --> 0:01:59.320 my courtroom? 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.680 Over the last four and a half years, I've been 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.320 actually giving Tom a lift to work every morning, someone 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.960 who probably hasn't been the most well behaved passenger, but 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.320 has also never chipped in any money for fuel, and 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.000 I think he should have been chipping in fuel money. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.600 Okay, So how many days a week was that? 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:20.560 Five days a week, every day? 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:22.080 And what time did you pick him up? 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.160 Different times? Because we lived in different all I lived 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.919 in different locations, so did Tom, so I was very 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.800 adaptable to work out where I could pick him up, 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.080 and the approximate time was anywhere between four ten and 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.000 four twenty am. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.720 And how did he get home? Did you drop him 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:35.400 home as well? 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.520 Sometimes I did drop him home. Other times, if he 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.919 was wanted to leave work early, which was quite regularly, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:43.320 he would catch the train. 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.680 Okay, So you just want your claim, EA is for 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.360 the drop offs to work in the morning only. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.920 I'm happy to let the drives home go. It's really 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.280 just about being compensated for the drive team. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.160 All right. And so for four and a half years, 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.800 did you ask him to chip in multiple times? 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:05.400 I think it was probably a roundabout conversations. Well it was. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.959 I would say to Tom, like, you know, it would 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.919 be handy for you to chip in some fuel and 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.520 all that sort of stuff at some stage. But I 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.520 feel like he was actually quite the manipulator, but never 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.520 really was able to move or along from actually answering it. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.800 So no, I don't want to know about his answer. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.400 I want to know if you asked him, did you say, Tom, 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.000 please pay this amount of money in. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:25.320 A roundabout way? 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.600 I would say, yes, okay, so how does that go? 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.600 How's a roundabout way? Tell me the words driving? 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.960 And I'm just I'm just at the fuel stationer putting 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.440 in more fuel. Tom, could you go in and pay? 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.320 Only if he would grab my card or grab my 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.440 phone because he had the pin code for my phone. 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.320 That's ever happened. And that's a lie. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.840 You can hang on a sick Tom speak. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.160 All he's doing is lying to swear to you on 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:49.600 my life. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.320 All right, Well, okay, so Pete, I'll come back to 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.200 you in a second. So Tom, what do you say? 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.280 Do you agree that Pete drove you to work every morning, 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.640 five days a week, picking you up around four am? 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.160 Is that right? In his cart? 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.400 Is absolutely incorrect? Sorry. I did work here for four 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.640 and a half years. For the first like six months, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.840 I drove myself because I used my housemate's car, and 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.880 then she moved to Melbourne, so I didn't have access 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.360 to that car. And that's how because Pete lived thirty 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.160 seconds away from me, the lifts started. 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.200 Okay, but that was only for six months. What about 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.120 the other four years? 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.599 The past four months this year, like the start of 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.279 the year, I've been catching the train in because I 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.719 no longer lived close to Pete and he wouldn't come 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:34.000 to my place or Liai's with a pickup location because 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.240 it was too far, which I understand, and I obviously 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.719 didn't kick up a stink because there was never an issue. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.599 But like when he says he picked me up every morning, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.560 he didn't come to my house. I would have to 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.120 go to his house. So sometimes I was walking in 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:46.880 the middle of winter. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.400 Okay, I'll get to that. Just tell me what timeframe 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.240 do you say he picked you up in the morning. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.600 So you're saying four and a half years less ten months, 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:01.000 six months at the beginning and four at the end, yes, right, final, Okay, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.800 So let's say about three and a half years. Is 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:04.160 that right? 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:04.960 Yeah? 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.120 Okay, So you agree he's picked you up three and 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.480 a half years every morning. Obviously you've got some issues 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.520 about where he picked you up from, but he still 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.279 got you to work every day, is that right? 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.000 Yes? 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.120 Okay, So tell me about that. What's what's the issue about? 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:19.000 You had to walk? 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.400 Well, sometimes Pete moves a lot. Pete would move every 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.200 six months, so there was never the same location. Often, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.919 like I was saying, in winter, I would have to 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.120 get up fifteen minutes early to walk thirty minutes to 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.320 his house to the pick up location, or I would 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.880 have to walk in the pouring rain, in the freezing 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.599 to a certain location, which was like out of my 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.800 way because he would never want to divert him. 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.159 But you weren't in prison. You weren't at prisoner. You 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.080 had other options. You could have got on the train, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:48.400 You could have caught an. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.320 Driven run that early. I don't own a car. And also, Gina, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.640 can I say, I can say because that is also 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.800 a lie. That is actually a lie. I say that 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:58.160 I would. 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.880 I'm going to stop you there, going to stop you there. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.760 So Tom, yes, you weren't imprisoned. You could have found 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.880 an alternative way to get to work, but you chose 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.640 at the time, for the benefit of the pickup, to 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.680 walk when you needed to. Is that right? 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.160 Well, the only alternatives that early in the morning are 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.440 an uber or in a cab, which I could not afford. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.120 Okay, so you would have had to pay for that. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.039 So the benefit for you was to get a free ride. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:28.000 Correct, Yeah, from a friend and a colleague of ten years. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.279 Okay, but the colleague of ten years is now saying 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.719 that that wasn't meant to be for free. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.680 Well, he never told me that ever. He never asked 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:38.200 for money. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.239 So you say that he's never approached you and said 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.560 you need to contribute. What do you say about stopping 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.159 at the petrol station to pick up fuel and he's 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:48.960 asked you to go in and pay? What do you 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:49.520 say about that? 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.359 That's a lie too. We would often go to the 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.880 petrol station and it would make us late each morning, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.919 because not only would he arrive late to the pickup 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.240 area every morning, pretty much, we would then have to 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.560 stop for petrol on the way in. And he's one 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.520 of those people that only fills up ten dollars at 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.440 a time, so we'll fill up like ten dollars and 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.679 then he'll go in and get three bottles of sparkling water, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:09.480 And so did he five minutes later. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.440 That's actually you're complicating the answer to the question. The 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.480 question is do you agree that he asked you to 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.760 go in and pay? No, Now, he's never asked you 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.680 to go in and pay at the petrol station. What 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:21.920 do you say about that? Pete? 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.880 That's actually a lie. And I wish I had my 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.040 other mobile phone here because I've actually filmed him going 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.840 into the servo for me before, Gina. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.960 So I just want to know why you didn't just 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.440 ask him directly? Why you were round about because I 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.080 find this a lot amongst friends. Can I call you friends? 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.960 Are you both friends? Would you say that I don't 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.400 know who will be after today? But yes, okay, yes, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.760 currently we've won, we'll try and hold it together. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.320 Yes, Tom has looked up to me over the years. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.920 Gina Hush, So, I often find amongst friends that they 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.679 have this special thing where they think that their friend 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:56.160 has mental telepathy of sorts, that one friend will think 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.680 that the other friend can read their mind, and that 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.960 when they don't, that there is reponsible for that. What 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.400 do you say about that, Pete. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.720 I have known Tom for a long time, and I 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.240 think from from where I'm from, regional Victoria, I'm a 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.240 country kid. If someone gives you a lift, you've got 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.840 to chip in something, whether it's buying the sandwich at 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.119 the servo or chipping in for fuel. I couldn't imagine 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.480 getting in anyone's car without at least offering if I'm 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.160 getting a lift into work or a lift into the footage. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.600 So you say it's just a matter of courtesy that 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.440 he should have offered or he should have paid. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.600 Gene. You're you know, you're old school like me. I'm 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.840 not saying you're old. I've just been in general like 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:34.480 insulting term your honor. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.959 I don't mind being insulted. I think it's quite exciting 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.400 to be insulted at times. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.240 Go on, well, no, I just I just think it's 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.160 got the way I was brought up, if someone was 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.120 to give you something or do something for you, you 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.440 exchange a genuine common courtesy of like, oh can I 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.520 pitch in for that? Or can I whatever? It happens to. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:55.080 Be okay, but that wasn't happening. So do you think 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.080 at some point that you should have actually just asked him? 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.680 It's fair you're saying, but I believe I dropped multiple hits. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.319 I've got stats. If tell me the stats, because stats 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.880 will help me at the end of the day. This 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.920 is what I wrote out. I will take into the 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.840 equation that it's a little bit shorter. I thought it was. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.320 Around taking to the equation. You just told me what 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:14.920 you think, Well. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.760 There's fifty two weeks a year. There was about two 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:17.920 hundred drive days. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.720 Do you work fifty two weeks a year? 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.960 Sorry for two weeks, five weeks, forty working weeks a year. Yep, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.199 around two hundred drive days So that's about one thousand 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.440 drive days over five years. So let's just take it 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.920 down to seven hundred for the sake of this ridiculous 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.680 argument at the end of the day, If that makes sense. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.400 The multiple locations Tom was, by the way, me giving 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.479 him a lift late multiple times, multiple multiple times. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.960 Were one You were late multiple times? 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.719 Now I would Peter was the laser. Sorry, if I 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.400 could just finish my statistics as well for you. So 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.640 Tom being late means I would have to pull over 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.439 sometimes out the front of where he lived at the time, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.200 which would leave my car idling for three or four minutes. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.720 I'm not just talking about the fuel that you put 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.000 into the I'm talking about unnecessary usage of fuels. If 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.040 we were running late sometimes I would have to take 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.200 tolls because I've had to wait for him. One morning, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.680 he slept in entirely right, and I waited out there 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.559 for an extra twenty minutes, couldn't get ahold of him. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.480 Drove off. Then he called me, So I actually did 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.680 a whole you turn around the whole city and came back. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.160 That's how much of a good guy I was. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.200 But you feel that you've been punished for your good 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:22.480 deeds is that what it feels. 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:23.800 I do definitely feel like that. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.840 Yeah, sure, okay, all right, So let's finish the statistics. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.400 So you're saying one thousand drive days, let's say seven 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:30.440 hundred YEP. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.880 I spent approximately for work fuel around fourteen thousand dollars. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.760 I worked out extra idle time on the average of 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.839 two to three minutes a day, was an approximately extra 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.880 seven hundred dollars. Okay, So I've gone down to citis 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.280 here on days that were late, I've gone back over 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.960 my linked account, which is connected to my tolls. An 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.920 extra four hundred and fifty dollars was spent, So not 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.400 a lot, but still enough into the equation. Plus car servicing. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.400 Now I haven't put the whole car servicing because cars 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.599 are yearsed for other things. Well, that's right, yet, So 0:10:58.640 --> 0:10:59.960 I pulled that down to a number of two thous 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:01.160 six hundred dollars. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.679 What's two six hundred the repairs. 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:08.360 On car servicing, basic car servicing. So my total spend 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.480 over that period of time that I'd been driving Tom 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.760 was twenty one thousand, six hundred and fifty dollars that 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.280 I spent myself out of that period of time. If 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.360 Tom could, if he kicked in ten percent of all 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.400 of that. I feel like that's fair. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.600 But you didn't ask him, well. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.240 I didn't ask him exactly around, so it's a moral issue. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.240 You think that he's maybe taken advantage of you, Would 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:30.160 that be fair to say? 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:31.560 I would say so for sure. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.199 All right, and Tom, what do you say? 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.679 I've got quite a lot of things to add, Judge Dina. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.360 All right, so I want to hear that firstly. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.640 I just want to say, off the back of that comment, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:45.080 there the original original lift four years ago he offered 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.920 me and never said at any point in time I 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.360 would need to give money. He was going that way anyway. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.720 We lived in the same suburb. He never had to 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.880 veer off his route. I was coming to his place 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.320 or to the meeting point. He was going this way 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.280 anyway with the car, with the pet all taking the tolls. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.160 It was never anything out of excess that was going 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.720 to cause an issue for him. Also, in his little 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.360 stats here, he's forgetting to mention for about a year 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.000 and a half there was two other passengers in the car, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.360 so really all those statistics should bete divided the other two. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.439 Were they going to one of them? They were one 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.080 of I don't need names. I just need to know 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:21.959 where they'll give you. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.240 Nay, if you want a witness as well. I didn't 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.240 talk while you were talking. It's now my turn, and 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:26.840 I'm serious. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.160 Sorry, Pete. I'll just listen to Tom or come back 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.640 to you. You'll have to hold your tongue. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.319 Thank you, your honor. One of them was Pete's sister 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.480 who worked in the building with us and started at 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:36.160 the same time. 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.520 Okay, And did she pay you petrol money? 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.160 Nice? She did, lie, thank you. And the other one 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.760 was another producers on the radio show who also lived 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.559 right by the pickup zone and would come in and 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.719 start at the same time as us. So really there 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.040 was three of us all getting a lift in the 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:57.160 one car at the same time, three passengers plus Pete, right, okay? 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.760 And that other passenger did they pay? They contribute? 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:01.600 He did not pay? 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.240 No, okay, if you ask them for money. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.040 If I may speak now, because there's a couple of 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.439 things that are absolutely inaccurate, they're judgment. She's asked you 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.319 was a yes or no question? Did Jermaine pay yes 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.000 or no? Yes? He did? Okay, Well it once I've 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.720 asked once? One paid once? How much one thousand dollars. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.360 He paid me thirty. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.640 Dollars and was that at your request? 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.480 It was at him reading my hints very clearly. Okay, 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.679 all right, so Tom go on the I think two 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.520 than six hundred dollars for him saying that's servicing of 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:34.040 the car. The cars beyond servicing. Peter's car is so 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.959 old they don't even make it anymore. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.280 That's probably servicing was so expensive and he probably had 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.720 to do it regularly. But it was better than the 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.560 old car you didn't have, wasn't it. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:49.040 Well not really. The passenger seat window is broken. It's 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:50.080 permanently down. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:51.760 Okay, so it's not road worthy. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.600 Well, it's down by about three inches. So if it's 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.319 pouring rain, you get drenched. If it's the middle of 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.560 winter at four am, which for half of the year 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.600 it obviously is, which is when we go into work, 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.240 it's freezing and the hot air only works some of 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.760 the time, and he has so much old food and 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.040 rubbish in the car. It's like a Hord's car that 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.360 there's actually full of bugs and cockroaches, and once you're 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.600 on it. There was one time one morning where I 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.800 was so freezing because the window was down that I 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.760 asked him to put the heater on, and multiple baby 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:29.240 cockroaches flew out into our face, and then so ridiculous, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:30.480 And then. 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:35.040 I don't believe you, funny bone, this is not a 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.520 true story. This is true flew out into our baby 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.600 cockroaches flew out, yes, okay, out of the air vents, 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.200 and Thenanosaurus rex across the road. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.720 No, no, I swear to you, swear. Baby cockroaches flew 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.160 out at our face. And he said, oh, don't worry, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.760 this has happened before, and reached behind him and pulled 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.440 out a giant can of more team with one of 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.000 those long straw attachments and put it while the heater 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.720 was on, into the air vent and turned on the 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.760 sh and then it sprayed back in our face and 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.640 cover us with mortine, hot mortine on the face. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:07.400 So when did that? 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.760 That is the kid? Did that happen about two winters ago? Maybe? 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.960 Okay? And that is kept getting into the car. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.280 That I had to put up. I had no other 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.200 way of getting in, no other choice. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.080 Well, can I ask you, is there a policy with 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.600 a radio station or any production company that if you 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.520 are working those sorts of hours that you're given a 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.760 taxi voucher, or you're given a driver or some other 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:32.680 means of getting into our companies. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.400 Yes, the company we're at. No. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:39.400 No, they didn't give you any any other means of transport. No, no, 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.359 other than you paying. So you didn't get an allowance 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.280 of any sort for travel at four am. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.760 Correct. No, it's get your own way there. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.160 I'm going to investigate that. If you're telling me a lie, 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:51.000 you'll be in trouble. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.520 No, that's true, Peter, I can vouch for him. Is 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.680 that true? That is that's actually the only true thing 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.200 he's probably said in the last five minutes. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:02.160 By the way, Okay, all right, okay, and Pete, did 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.400 you offer to drive Tom to work every morning? I mean, 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.640 obviously you've moved around and the arrangement has continued, so 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.720 you've had communication, You've had discussions about, oh, I'll see 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.240 you tomorrow morning. Is that sort of how it went. Yeah. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.440 I think it just became the expectation. And I suppose 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.960 you don't expect to have to ask someone every day. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.480 Could they just chip in a bit of cash for 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:22.840 the fuel? 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.160 But did you say that there was a time limit 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.240 on your offer? Did you say I'll pick you up 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.800 for the next week, but after that, forget about it. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.520 I didn't. I didn't Gina, and that it probably probably 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.240 could have been said. But as I said to my 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.800 point earlier in the podcast, I really there is that 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.920 expectation if someone's helping you out with something, surely you'd 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:43.320 chip in. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.760 So the mental telepathy argument. So you've never asked him 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.280 for an amount of money to pay, You've just assumed 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.640 that he would pick up on your vibe. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.080 Yeah, because Kate, my sister for two months, gave me 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.440 sixty dollars a month and Jermaine gave me I think 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.040 it was I think it was around forty dollars. Wow. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:02.960 We also had a group chat as well for pick 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.960 ups because everyone would update me when theyah blah blah. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.080 Tom always the last one. They're always late, by the way, 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.480 even when I was car pulling as well. So he 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.920 saw other people putting receipts into that Facebook. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.960 Group, so they were paying you, what forty a month 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:16.920 or sixty a month. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.000 Jermaine gave me forty and Kate gave me sixty dollars twice, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.320 so so one person gave you forty dollars once, another 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.919 person gave you sixty dollars twice. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.240 I think you said thirty dollars once. So I think 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.359 your story has changed a little bit. It did think. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.320 All. Actually, if anything, to be honest, I've got evidence. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:36.640 I've just completely forgotten about. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.280 What is that? What's the evidence? 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.800 So Tom and I a directive from the show If 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.320 who Were Driving in Together was to sometimes films and videos, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.320 and we did a video series. And that video series 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.080 was like our car lifts in and chatting and what's 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.040