1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Ganya Niana, kaka ya Ya bin Ahaka Nian our gay 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: in Mbina yakarum jar Dominyama, Domaga Ithawakawaman, damon Imlan Bumba 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: ban Gadabomba in and now in wakah ghana on yak 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: raum jar Watnadaa. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on the 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and respect 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the Aberiginal people's land that we're gathering on today. Take 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: pleasure in all the land and respect all that you see. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. She's on the Money. Hello and 13 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast that's here 14 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: to help you live your best life without blowing the budget. 15 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: I'm excited and if you're like me, living your best 16 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: life definitely includes travel ideally, but let's be honest. 17 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: We just got back from Thailand, so clearly. 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, holidays can get very expensive. Very quickly they can. 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: So today I'm joined as always by our go to 20 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: for all things finance, Victoria Devine, to figure out how 21 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: we can see the world without draining our bank accounts. 22 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: I mean you could also drain your bank account, no judgment, 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 3: you could, Yeah, I just I don't know. Like what 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: you do with your money is actually none of my business. 25 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: My job is to give you all the tools on 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: me sources so that you can make a decision that's 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: right for you. And if draining your bank account is 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 3: in line with your valleys pop off queen. Absolutely ideally 29 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: you've got some money to come home to, because I 30 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: love a bit of financial stability. Oh, I just think 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: that that is the responsible thing. And sometimes I think 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: we need to put our big girl socks on and 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: get our emergency fund set up because. 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: You know what our future, you deserves that. Yeah, that's 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: so true. 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: Like you just feel so much more financially secure when 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 3: you've got some cash in the bank. 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: It feels so good. I've right never really been in 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: that position except for when I like, oh, I'll go 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: to fel thousand dollars in your shares is Yeah, it 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: feels good. It really feels good. So I feel like 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: we could all do it. 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: And we get so many messages from our community, especially 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: our younger members, asking r V is like travel a 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: really bad money goal. No, experiencely, please, memory please? Like 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: any goal that's in line with your values is a 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: good goal. Yes, And the research is pretty clear that 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: spending on experiences actually makes us happier than spending on things. 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: So I reckon, that's that's good enough for me. I'm 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: going to go back to Bali. So it's not about 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: skipping travel. I think it's actually just about being smart 52 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: with it. Like I just don't want to see you 53 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: in thirty thousand dollars worth of personal debt and then 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: going but I. 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: Deserve a holiday. 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, grow up, Like we've got to get together, beck, Yeah, 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: because you deserve more than that, Like future you needs 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: financial security, but also future you deserves to go to Bali. 59 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: Future you deserves to see the world, and you can't 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: put yourself in that position if you keep making decisions 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: that put you backwards. 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: So he's travel bad. No, but like let's be smart. Yeah, 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: and we can show you how to do that, which 65 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: is why today is all about sharing travel savings hacks 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: and tips and tricks that aren't the same boring tips 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 3: that you've heard one hundred million times. I would say, 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: because we've put this episode together, Beck, together together, these 69 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: are clever, lesser known ones that actually save you some 70 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: real cash. 71 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Good. I am half excited. 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: But before we get into it, Beck, I want to know, 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: do you have a bucket list trip that you want 74 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: to go on? 75 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: They're so sweet, Vitty, I think I really want to 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: see the Aurora borealists. 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, me too. 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: Something about lights bright lights really exciting? 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, hundred percent. But did you know you can see 80 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: that in Tasmania? Really? 81 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 82 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: I mean not the same one, but like, oh yeah, 83 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: yeah you can see la Oh my god, because I've 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: heard that. Like, my best friend Harriet lives in Hobart. 85 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: Sorry Harriet for just like outing where you live. But 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: she has sent me photos from her back deck before 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: of her experience and you can see it with the 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: naked eye. Yeah, because Tasmania doesn't have as much light 89 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: pollution as what you do it. 90 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 91 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: Okay, well cool sounds. 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: Like it sounds a bit cheaper, but I'm not trying 93 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: to be cheaper. But let's go on the big boushie 94 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: holiday because one day I have in my head that 95 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: I really want to go to like a Bora Bora. 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, I've been on some nice holidays, 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: but I cannot in my head justify like a three 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: thousand dollars a night overwater villa thing. No, but one day, 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: one day, maybe when I like get enough Virgin points 101 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: or something, I will be able to go. I believe, 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: I just go. Imagine being in a villa that's over 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: water and you like look through the floor and there's fishies. 104 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: That's so cooler. That would be really amazing. 105 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: Imagine having breakfast. Oh anyway, sorry, that's where I would 106 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: like to go. God, And I don't know, there's probably 107 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: a million other places, because I do really like travel, 108 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: but like I've just kind of stepped a little bit 109 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: out of my travel era. I would say, because I 110 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: have a toddler, Yeah, I would say, limits, your choice 111 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: is a little bit, a little bit tricky. In fact, 112 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: my last holiday beck was actually based around finding a 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: family friendly resort, and I. 114 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: Was like, oh my god, this has like so many 115 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: kids pools. 116 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: Brilliant. The next thing I looked at was like, oh 117 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: my god, this resort I went to in Bali. 118 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: It has a petting zoo. Oh that's so cute. 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: Whereas I would say that past me if I was 120 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: going on like an international lag, you know, I would 121 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: say beachy holiday, I'm thinking, oh, private villa, private pool. 122 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: Now I've got a toddler. I was like, private pool 123 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 3: and Bali there's no pool fencing, absolutely no scary. Your 124 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: life changes a little bit, but that doesn't mean that 125 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: travels off the cards. 126 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: Beck absolutely, So what's your first tip? 127 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: All right? 128 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: So you're not going to like this because you're a 129 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: chat GPT like not fan, but if I could convince 130 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: you to save some money, I reckon you could get 131 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: on board. So we're going to actually turn to chat 132 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: GPT and be like, hey girl, yeah, can you pretend 133 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: to be my travel agent? Got you? 134 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: Okay? 135 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: And you're going to make her role play in not 136 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: a weird way. You're going to make her role play 137 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: as a travel agent. Now I know that that's probably 138 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: not very groundbreaking. You're like that, you promise good tips, 139 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: and then you said chat GPT, but I wanted to 140 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: share a few things that you could use it for 141 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: that you maybe have not used it for before. Because 142 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: like everyone knows that you could probably use chat chpt 143 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: right right, But you could ask it to find the 144 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: cheapest time to go somewhere. So you could say something like, hey, 145 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: find me the shoulder season windows for BALI that dodge 146 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: Australian school holidays, and then all of the major events, 147 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: like I would really want three days in a row 148 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: where the like flights drop the weather's really good, and 149 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: then add a sentence of why for each window. So, like, 150 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: I think something that people don't realize about chat GPT, 151 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: or you haven't used it as a incessantly as I have, 152 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: is that you can be as specific as you want, 153 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: and like, if you're not getting the answers you want, 154 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: you can like clarify okay. You could be like, oh no, 155 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: I don't like that window because it actually clashes with 156 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: my husband's birthday and we're doing something else, and then 157 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: it will like regenerate again. So you can ask it 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: a million questions. I'm still in a phase where I 159 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: say please and thank you. You probably don't need to, 160 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: but I feel like I don't know, I'll be polite 161 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: one day if my like chat GBT search history like 162 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: gets leaked. At least you guys are going to go 163 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: through and be like, well, you know what, Victoria was 164 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: really polite when asking that six million times, you know, 165 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: or you could find the most cost effective like airline 166 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: or flight for you, so you could compare infant and 167 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: childfair rules across like Quantas and Singapore airlines and Emirates 168 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: if you're planning on going to Italy or something. So 169 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: I want really stick totals for a family of four 170 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: with one infant who sits on my lap and a 171 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: kid aged seven and one sure, because money win, beck 172 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: And I think some people know this, but not all 173 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: people know this. 174 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Kids under two. 175 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: Usually fly free. 176 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 177 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: So like our flight to Bali, we paid for our 178 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: tickets or you know, actually got tickets on points, but 179 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: like we didn't have to pay for Harvey because he 180 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: actually sits on one of our laps. 181 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. 182 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: Money win. The second he turns to though, we're gonna 183 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: have to pay for him. And honestly, I'm not gonna lie. 184 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: And my son is quite big, Like I don't share 185 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: a lot about him, but like I would say that 186 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: when people meet him, they often say, oh my god, 187 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: like he's much bigger than I thought he would be 188 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: because he's just this is a big boy doing big Oh. 189 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: My god, it's so cute. 190 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: He's busy boy. It was a lot to have him 191 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: on my lap. So I don't know how long that 192 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: is going to go. But you can also compare like 193 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: baggage rules or like those stroller rules, and like seat 194 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: selection fees, so you can see the actual true cost 195 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: because how many times have you gone to book a 196 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: flight and then you're like, oh, one hundred and twenty 197 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: nine dollars to Sydney like money win, and then it's 198 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: like plus tax, plus baggage plus these that, and then 199 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: they ask you to make a contribution to charity and you're. 200 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Like, right now, I just don't have the money. 201 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 3: I don't understand. But you can even get it to 202 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: like dig up cheaper roots or like flag budget airlines 203 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: that don't show up on the usual comparison website. So 204 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: if you go to webjet, they only like rank the 205 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: places that pay them to be on Webjet. 206 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: Got you okay? 207 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 3: So you can compare even more using chat GPT, And 208 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: if you're not sure what to ask ask chat GPT, 209 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: be like, hey, I don't know how to really use 210 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: you what are the questions I should ask because I 211 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: want to book a budget holiday. 212 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, Oh my god, Okay, that's great. 213 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: I think that my favorite thing at the moment is 214 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: you can just ask, like you can just ask and 215 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: just ask. It doesn't make you feel stupid. 216 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: No, okai, Well outside of chat GPT, if you happen 217 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: to have are there any other Yes? 218 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: There are. I'm sorry that you hate CHATTA. So these men, 219 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: I feel like you're doing a dodgy, but it's completely legal. 220 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: You're going to change your point of sale country. Okay, okay, 221 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: change your point of sale country. Yeah. So airlines don't 222 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: just like price flights because of the distance. They actually 223 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: price them by where you buy. And this is where 224 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: you could use your VPN very well. Okay, So sometimes 225 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: the exact seat costs literally hundreds of dollars less if 226 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: you book it on the airlines destination country website in 227 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: their local currency. 228 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: Oh my godd. 229 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: For example, I did a little bit of research because 230 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I need to give you 231 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: guys a good example of this. A Tokyo flight can 232 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: be a lot cheaper on the Japan version of the 233 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: airline website than the Australian one. 234 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 235 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: They kind of like, oh, well, the Japanese obviously going 236 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: to fly home to Tokyo, and that's not as interesting 237 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: as someone from Australia coming on a holiday. 238 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: Are you allowed to like trans what's the word I'm 239 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: thinking of, like translate translate in English, it won't pick 240 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: up that you're. 241 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: No, but you can just put it into English and 242 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: say that you're in Japan while you're booking hairt put 243 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: your VPN there. Oh my god. And so I saw 244 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: someone online say because I looked it up, but I 245 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: saw someone online say that she and her husband flew 246 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: to Italy for seven hundred and fifty dollars return whoa 247 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 3: from la versus fifteen hundred dollars using this hack in 248 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: our Facebook group? Really yep, money win. So to do this, 249 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: obviously you have to make sure that you only use 250 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: like the official website, like don't just go on random 251 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 3: Japanese websites because like that could be like sketchy, like 252 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: no sketchy third party links. And then what we want 253 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: to do is reject pop ups like no pop ups allowed, 254 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: like you know when it pops up, so reject pop 255 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: ups that change into your own currency and then pay 256 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: with a card that doesn't have foreign exchange fees because 257 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: you don't want to get slapped with that. And then 258 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: always double check the fair rules and the baggage because 259 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: it can actually differ from market to market everything. It's 260 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: it's so annoying with airlines, but like they might have 261 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: a limit on luggage, whereas you know you get twenty 262 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: three kilos if you book from Australia. 263 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: Sure, so you just want to be careful, right, that 264 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: is so clever. 265 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: I did not know there was a thing pretange you 266 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: somewhere else. 267 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: That's so good. 268 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: Check and I mean I'm going back to chat GPT, 269 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: but you could ask them what the best fare would be. 270 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Do I book from Japan or do I book from here? 271 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: WHOA, Okay, they won't do the hard. 272 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: Work for you. 273 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm scared that, like, because you know sometimes I mean, 274 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: he I don't know if this is true or not. 275 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: But if you google a flight and then you google 276 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: it again, yeah. 277 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: That's another tipic clear cookies. But I feel like people 278 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: know that. That's why I haven't put it in as 279 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: a But if you ask your chat gypt does. 280 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: That, maybe the internet will know. I don't know how 281 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: deep it goes. 282 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: But I also always make sure that when I'm looking 283 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: up flights or like accommodation, I do it in like 284 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: an incognito brows emotely, and I like clear my cookies 285 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: because I don't want there to be a history of 286 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: me having looked it up, because it does increase They're 287 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: so sneaky. I mean, it's good for them to make 288 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: more money because they're like, oh, well, if Beck looked 289 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 3: at that right now and then didn't buy it, and 290 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: then she comes back, she'd be happy to pay another 291 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: fifty bucks, that'll be fine. 292 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: Because they're rude, bere I'm not paying the cheaper price. 293 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: Why am I paying the more expensive price? Time to 294 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: think about it, ill, I don't like it anyway, So Vid, 295 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm just like skimming over the page that we're that's 296 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: kind of guiding us. And goldilocks window is on here. Yeah, 297 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: and it's not too hot, it's not too cold, it's 298 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: just right ah on the window. 299 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 3: Se No, it's not got anything to do with that. 300 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: But that was a good example. Maybe it's fantastic, But 301 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: there's also something called a Goldilocks window for buying flights, 302 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 3: So too early you are paying full fare, like you're 303 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: booking like a year and a half in advance. They're 304 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 3: going to be like, she's prepared, We're not going to 305 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 3: give her any discounts. 306 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: We don't care. 307 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: Too late, and you pay surge pricing, okay, because you 308 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: know they're like, she's desperate to get to Sydney or 309 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: she's desperate to get to Italy tomorrow, We're going to 310 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 3: charge her through the nose because. 311 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: What else is she going to do? 312 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So taking some time to research this window 313 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: for your flight to kind of hit the sweet spot 314 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 3: in between could save you some serious cash. Right, And 315 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: this is where I'll say that your friend chut GPT 316 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: could probably tell you Sure, every destination is going to 317 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 3: be really different because like some places, if it's like 318 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 3: a domestic flight, maybe they're like, whatever, we don't care, 319 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: we don't need to charge them through the nose. But 320 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: then like a big dog flight to like New York 321 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: or something last minute, they might go, Nah, if you 322 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: need to get to New York last minute, we're going 323 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: to take the mickey. I see, you know what I mean. 324 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: So mean, so we've just got to. 325 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: Keep an eye on it. 326 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: Sure, sure, Sure that is so because I imagine if 327 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: you're desperately trying to get overseas, it's maybe because like 328 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: a family member is seeing something but they don't give 329 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: a dan. They're like, great, this is more money for 330 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: us eastally sickening. Anyways, story for another time. But what 331 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: about accommodation? 332 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so this is a good one. This is going 333 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: to be rude. So if you're a hotel company and 334 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: you were like, oh, I really want to wear Crusche's 335 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: on the money, maybe you don't anymore because I'm going 336 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: to tell you that you can rebook your accommodation and 337 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: when the prices drop. 338 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. 339 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: So hotel prices often move around all the time, even 340 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: after you've booked, so we're always looking. So if you've 341 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: booked a hotel, let's pretend it's like in New York, 342 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: like just keep checking every couple of weeks, like what 343 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: the price per night on that hotel is. Because if 344 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: you've chosen the flexible rate, meaning that there's like free cancelations, 345 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: you can actually cancel and then rebook for the lower rate. 346 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I think that that will save you 347 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: some money. And there's apps like Provo so pro Vo 348 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: pr Uvo YEP and rate punk, and these two apps 349 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: actually will check your exact hotel and your room for 350 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: you and keep you up to date with that. So basically, 351 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: when you're booking, don't be like, oh, I'm gonna not 352 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: do the flexible rate because this won't work for you. 353 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: But you book with the flexible rate, then if you 354 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: were going to use one of these apps, you would 355 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: forward your confirmation email to Provo or install rate Punk's 356 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: browser extension, which is my preferred method because it's like 357 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: in how you have like a shop back extension or 358 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: whatever like that, and then the tool watches that same 359 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: room type and the same date range on multiple different 360 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: websites for you, and then if the price falls, they're like. 361 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Beck, did you realize that like your hotel's cheaper today? 362 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 363 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you cancel your old booking and then 364 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: rebook the exact same room for less money. 365 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 366 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: That is so clever, right, And the catch is you 367 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: do have to book the flexible rate, so often you'll 368 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: find that it's like ten or twenty dollars more personally 369 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: to do that, but it can actually save you hundreds 370 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: of dollars without changing your trip at all, and that 371 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: can be I don't know. I'm one for flexibility. You 372 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: never know what's going to happen. So and that's a 373 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: good deal. 374 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: That is so clever. So what else have you got? 375 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: All right? So the best rate guarantee? We are taking 376 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: advantage of this. And I'm not saying taking advantage as 377 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: seeing we're going to take the mickey, but we're going 378 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: to use the best rate guarantee if it's being offered. 379 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: So most big chains, so think like Hilton Hotels or 380 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: the Marriott, or like I don't know, the Whole or SOFTOTL, 381 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: they often run what's called a best rate guarantee. So 382 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: like that sounds good, but most of us don't deep 383 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: dive into what that actually means. But that means if 384 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: you book direct on their personal website, so not through 385 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: like a third party platform, then find the room cheaper 386 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: somewhere else, which you might so like you might go 387 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: on like a God or like I don't know, Last 388 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: Minute or something dot com, they will not only price match, 389 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: but they'll actually give you an extra twenty to twenty 390 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: five percent off. Oh okay, So I feel like that's 391 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: a good deal. So book direct first on a refundable rate, 392 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: so we're doing flex again so that you're safe if 393 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: you know, the claim fails, so you can be like, oh, 394 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: screw you, I'll just cancel my whole thing and go 395 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: through a Goda like whatever. But then find a public 396 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: ota with a lower price, which is like just like 397 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: a third party platform for the same room name, the 398 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: same bed type, the same cancelation terms, and the same currency. 399 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: And then I would be screenshot everything, like with the 400 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: date and the time, so like, don't just screenshot the 401 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 3: little bit, screenshot your whole computer screen so that it's 402 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: got the room name and like the cancelation type and 403 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: like the time and the date up in the corner 404 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: of your computer and then total price before taxes and fees, 405 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: and then file. 406 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: Within twenty four hours of booking direct, and they. 407 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: All price match it for you. 408 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: Gorgeous. That is so cool. 409 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean to add to that, I want to say, 410 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm a pest. You already know I'm a pest. 411 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: I can't imagine it. 412 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: I'll just call you direct. I'll just call the hotel 413 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: to book. I'm scared, but yes or no, Like the 414 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: girl on the phone's usually really nice. 415 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 416 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: True, they're probably having a slow day on reception and 417 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: then they're like, oh, this annoying girl is calling, and 418 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: I'd be like, hey, like a better rate you can do? 419 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: Usually yes, yeah, that's true. 420 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: Actually usually yes, thank you, thank you. 421 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: Love that. I feel like this is a really good 422 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: time to have a really quick break, a holiday, you 423 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: could say, a holiday, a mini holiday. Imagine if we 424 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: actually came back in like six months, finish the episode. 425 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so don't put it past us. 426 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: So we're gonna could take a quick on the flip side, 427 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: were we get a lot more money saving hacks. Okay, guys, 428 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: we are back. And if you're anything like me, I'm 429 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: literally shaking, gagging at throwing up at the idea of 430 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: more travel hacks. And I feel like you've got a 431 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: few here. You just have to be smart, right, yeah, 432 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: you just got too smart. It's like it's probably a 433 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: tiny bit more admin. 434 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 3: But imagine happy to do admin if I'm saving money, 435 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: Like I know some people say, oh no, I'm happy 436 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: to pay the premium. I don't know at what point 437 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: I will be happy to pay the premium? No, Like, 438 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: at what point will I be like do you know 439 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: what Victoria like? You're pretty financially comfortable. Stop trying to 440 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: get the best deal. No, I think it's in my blood. 441 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: How do you think she got here? How do you 442 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: think I got here? I'm not leaving anyway. There is 443 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: nothing more frustrating, I think than being charged to use 444 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: your own money when you're on holiday. What do you 445 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: mean I see? And when you're traveling. I think this 446 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: is like a million times worse. So I do have 447 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: a few hacks for this, and the first you're probably 448 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: going to be surprised by this because this is a 449 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: question we get all the time, like do I pay 450 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: in local currency or do I pay in Australian? 451 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: Right? 452 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: Like, what do I do? Always pay in local currency 453 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: and avoid dynamic currency conversion or DCC? Okay, got the 454 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 3: DCC from the Cowboys Cheerleaders. Just DCC, which is like 455 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 3: the bad type. But DCC is when a cashier ATM 456 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: or card terminal asks, oh, do you want to pay 457 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: in aud instead of the local currency, and you go, 458 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: oh yes, no we say no, no, no, no, we 459 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: don't want that because it kind of looks helpful to 460 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: see the like you know, you're at checkout in Thailand 461 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: and it's like you want to pay in Australian it's 462 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: like fourteen dollars. You go, oh, well that makes more 463 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: sense to me. Yeah, okay, because it feels safer. It's 464 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: not because the cash rate is the conversion rate set 465 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: by the ATM or the merchant and that's usually much 466 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: worse than the official bank rate or the card network rate. 467 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: They're taking the absolute mickey, and then they often tack 468 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: on some kind of hidden margin. So you come home 469 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: and you're like, where are all these additional fees and 470 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: charges coming from? It's from that, got you? Okay. I 471 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: always always always choose the local currency and your bank 472 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: or your card network, like if you're with Visa or 473 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: master Card will handle the conversion and what I would 474 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: call a much fairer currency, right, that is wild. And 475 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: if you have a card without foreign exchange fees, you're 476 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: going to save even more. And that would be a 477 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: top tip, like don't go overseas if you've got a 478 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: card with foreign exchange fees. 479 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelly, got you, got you save your money like 480 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: I in g or something. I don't know, I guess 481 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: you could do. 482 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: Personally, I can't give you advice on what bank to 483 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: use because that would be going against my financial services license. 484 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: But when I went to Bali, i used my WISE card. 485 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: Wise that's just why us, that is just what I used. 486 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: You would I know about money or making decisions, You've 487 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: got to make your own decision. But I used my 488 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 3: WIS card. 489 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: Are there other banks that have, you know, no foreign 490 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: exchange fees? 491 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 4: Yes? 492 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, I just didn't use those ones a bad 493 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: but again, do your own research. 494 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: That's very good to know for no reason exactly. 495 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: And also sorry, we're going to take this a step 496 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: further and let an app find the best fee free 497 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: ATM for you, because like gol, we live in twenty 498 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: twenty five. There's an app for everything. So ATM fees overseas, 499 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: I think take the mikey right, Like, have you ever 500 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: gone to get cash out overseas? And you're like, but 501 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: you needed the cash because you're like already at the market. Yeah, 502 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: what are you going to do? You're going to pay it, 503 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: but we're not. Sometimes it could cost anywhere genuinely between 504 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 3: eight to twelve dollars just to take cash out your 505 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: own cash so that you can spend it. Oh, okay, 506 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: taking the mickey, don't like it? There's an app for that, 507 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty five there's an app for everything, 508 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: back to the ATM fee save app. 509 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: Oh okay, these guys are crazy. I love them. 510 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: They actually map ATMs in more than one hundred and 511 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: sixty countries and then they show you which ones are 512 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 3: like fee free or lower cost and even tells you 513 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: what like withdraw all limits are on it, or like 514 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: the foreign. 515 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: Cards it's accepting. I'm not paid for this. 516 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 3: I just thought this was genius because if you need 517 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: an ATM, like sorry, get the best one, and he's 518 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: kind of I've written down how it works so it 519 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: makes sense to you. First thing you're going to do 520 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: is download the app. Then you're like, okay, cool back. 521 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: And I just got back from Bali, so I feel 522 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: like this is my most recent example. Go search Bali 523 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 3: and your country, so Bali Indonesia. It's going to show 524 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: a map of all the nearby ATMs with user reported fees. 525 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: So the one thing I would say, it's user reported, 526 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: So like, the more people that have this app, the 527 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: more people that are contributing to the data, the better. 528 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: But then also it's not like verified through the bank, 529 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: like I could go on and be like cost fifty 530 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: million dollars, what are they going to do? But then 531 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: you're going to head to the fee free option save 532 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: eight bucks because when you're back home in Melbourne, that's 533 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: a coffee, but when you're in Bali, that's like cocktails 534 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: for two people. Hell yeah, that's so exactly right, exactly, 535 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: and I guess you're going to go fee what's the catch? 536 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Of course? 537 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: Ye. Coverage is very dependent on I guess travelers submitting updates. 538 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: As I said before, like it's kind of up to 539 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: the users to be like, oh, I do this. So 540 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: in Bali really easy because there's lots of Australians and 541 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: lots of people who do that, but like maybe more 542 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: niche travel destinations are a little bit harder to find it. 543 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: So in some spots I would say it's. 544 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: Definitely not perfect. 545 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: But when it works, it works, and it can save 546 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: you hundreds of dollars on a longer holiday. 547 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: That is so good. 548 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: We are here to save money. 549 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I'm like kind of itching to get on 550 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: my phone and tell all my friends about this, but 551 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to wait. 552 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: You can just sell them the whole episode that we did. 553 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: I think I might do that, just be like Hey, 554 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: sit down Buckley in. Yeah, I'm on a podcast and 555 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: I have been for years. 556 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: I have been for years. Actually, yeah, doct me. It's 557 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: not you. So okay, food can be a big one 558 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: on holiday. Yeah, do you have anything to save on that? Girl? 559 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: All I do is hack food when I'm away. And 560 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: you know what, this isn't for everybody. So I'll share this, 561 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: and I've shared this on the pod before, so this 562 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: isn't the new part. But then I've got a few 563 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: tips that are new. I don't believe unless breakfast included 564 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: in the holiday or in the package or it's like 565 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: real reasonable, we're not having breakfast a gotel, don't get 566 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: me wrong. So, like most recent trip for me was Bali. 567 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: We definitely had breakfast at the hotel because it's like 568 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: this big buffet and it was kind of part of 569 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: the experience. We'll staying at a resort, Like I didn't 570 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: want to leave to go and get food because it's 571 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 3: just not my journey for that trip. So what did 572 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: I do to make the most of that? 573 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: I have a toddler. Toddler's I would. 574 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: Say eat ninety nine percent of the time. My grocery 575 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: budget is ninety nine percent snacks at this point for 576 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: my toddler. So I took a lunch box and I 577 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: made a little sandwich every morning and put some of 578 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: the snacks and treats in there. So when midday came 579 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: and Harvey had his little lunch and he had some 580 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: afternoon tea, I was set. It made me very comfortable. 581 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 3: I didn't have to spend extra on going, Oh, we're 582 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: at the pool, like you know, we're still in our resort. 583 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: We're hanging out. Harvey's hungry. We should order some like 584 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: you know, chips beside the pool. I don't mind what 585 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: food it is. Like, Don't get me wrong. It's not 586 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: about health and wealth and whatever at this point in time. 587 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: It's actually about going to me. That's a ridiculous cost 588 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: for a toddler who would be just as happy with 589 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: a veggie Mike sandwich. Yeah, so I'm filling up my 590 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 3: lunch box at the buffet. When I was traveling Europe 591 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: with my girlfriends and we had no money, I had 592 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: zip lock bags that I bought at the local supermarket, 593 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: and I put an extra croissant in there from the 594 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: hostel's buffet breakfast that was included, and like buffet breakfasts 595 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: at hostel's dire but sorry morning tea or afternoon tea. 596 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 3: Not having to get a little lack snack because you 597 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: were starving because I took it from buffet breakfast. Amazing. 598 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I assume they'd throw that stuff out anyway. 599 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 3: I think, so, I like, no one ever stopped me, 600 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: No one has ever been like, oh no, Like in fact, 601 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: when I was filling my little lunch box, They're like, 602 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: do you need anything else? Oh? Thanks, cute? 603 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 604 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: Also when I was in bigger locations. So as I've 605 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 3: gotten older, I've traveled more expense if places like New 606 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: York in America, I'm sorry. The second we got there, 607 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not paying twenty five dollars USD 608 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: for the buffet breakfast at this hotel in the morning 609 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 3: for it to be toast and jam. So I went 610 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: to the supermarket and I got like cereals and stuff 611 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: like that set myself up amazing breakfast in bed every morning. Yeah, 612 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: really cheap, really easy. And to be honest, one of 613 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: the hacks that I have for traveling is like try 614 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: and I don't know if this is a hacker, if 615 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 3: this is just something that we do is trying to 616 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: have one or two meals at the hotel each day, 617 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: like or at where you're staying each day. And breakfast 618 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 3: I think is such an easy tick off the list. Yeah, 619 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: because I can eat something at home or eat something 620 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: where we're staying, and then we can go out and 621 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: still have a coffee, but we're not blowing our food 622 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: budget early in the day. I don't know about you, 623 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: but I'd much prefer to have like a fancy lunch 624 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 3: or a fancy dinner then spend money when traveling on breakfast. Yeah, 625 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: unless it's like a bucket list item, it's just not 626 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: my journey for sure. But then also we've spoken on 627 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: the podcast for about eat Club. Yes, they are actually international, 628 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: so you can hunt for eat club at your destination. 629 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: So we talk about apps like this, but most countries 630 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: have their own version. So what I would do is 631 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: search Google or your friend chat GPT and just be like, hey, 632 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: what's like the restaurant discount app for Europe, YEP for 633 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: Italy be specific maybe you're in Dubai, I don't know, 634 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: and then download it in advance and set up your 635 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: account so that you can see what's on offer. So 636 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 3: I did a little bit of research for you. In 637 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: Europe and in Latin America, there's an app called the 638 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: Fork and it looks basically like you eat club and 639 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: you earn like loyalty points and get discounted tables and 640 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: discounted rates, or you might get like a free bottle 641 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: of wine with your booking. Cool sorry, money in money. 642 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: In in Asia they have eaty go or ettygo, I 643 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: don't know, et go, yes, eatigo okay, And that's time 644 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: based discounts, so like no booking in advance, but they 645 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: might be like, oh tonight, this places having twenty five 646 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: percent off a few books through here, right, money win, 647 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 3: and like amazing, you're on holiday. I feel like we 648 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: do most things last minute. In the UK and in 649 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: Ireland they have Taste Cud Yeah, so they offer often 650 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: two for one or fifty percent off at thousands of 651 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: different restaurants. That is so good, right, So we're all 652 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: trying to save money at home, like, and we use 653 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: these apps at home, but then all of a sudden 654 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: when we go overseas, we forget that these things exist. Yeah, 655 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: so that's good and one of our favorites of the show. 656 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: And you've like mentioned it before, is like a broke 657 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: tip is too good to go. Yeah, sorry, that's international. 658 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: We didn't come up with that in Australia. That's actually 659 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: availably in so many different countries around the world. And 660 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: I would say that's a really good option because you 661 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: could get on like eat to go, look at a 662 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: bakery or something, get some cute like chocolate croissants or 663 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: something the night before Bam breakfast. 664 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: That's so clever. 665 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: My sin is really smart. I think that's so I'm 666 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: so excited to tell everyone I know about it. I 667 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: just feel so good when you're on holiday. I don't 668 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: know about you, but you just have this idea that 669 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: oh it's a luxury Absolutely you just go, oh, it's 670 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: definitely going to be more expensive, but you can still 671 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: be a little bit savvy. Absolutely, like we can still 672 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: save money and like these rules, I've never felt like 673 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: they're restrictive, like this idea that we have, you know, 674 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: one meal at home for me. Yes, It's very different 675 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: when I'm traveling to a more budget friendly country like Asia. 676 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: So like in Bali, I'm like, well, what really is 677 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: the difference of going to the supermarket and buying all 678 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: of the groceries and then bring in that's that's not 679 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: the journey for me and Bali but sorry in Italy 680 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: when we were in more expensive locations like New York 681 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: America wherever, for me, I'm like, no, that's going to 682 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: save me like fifteen dollars USD, which is close to 683 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: thirty dollars Australian right off the bat. And if I'm 684 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: there for ten days, that stuff adds. 685 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: Up for sure. That's one hundreds and hundreds of dollars exactly. 686 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: And I don't know about you, Beck, but sorry, American 687 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: cereals are really fun. 688 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: I love lucky charms. Yeah, we like went to the 689 00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: supermarket there. 690 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: It was like a whole other experience that was a 691 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: free activity, warm turn out of tear. 692 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: Even the comedian stores here, there's something about the American 693 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: sweets and treats. 694 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: Oh, they just wanted to look at them exactly right, 695 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: So you can still have fun and doesn't need to 696 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: be boring. You don't need to go get your like 697 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: stocks downed. Okay, well, when we get there, we'll buy 698 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 3: a loaf of bread, non s something fun. It can 699 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: even be like something fun and a little bit more 700 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: like bougie than what you would usually do, but you're 701 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: probably already still saving money by doing exactly treat yourself. 702 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: So we often have like solo travelers in our community 703 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: that say they want to save money on budget accommodation, 704 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: but they don't want it to be in a dorm 705 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: for safety reasons, of course, and for other reasons. I'm sure, 706 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: So give me your best tip. 707 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: I've stayed in a few dorms and in like costels, 708 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: and one of the things I would say is, I 709 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: absolutely agree. When I was traveling this is obviously like 710 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: segue into solo travelers, but one of the things I 711 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: would say is you can obviously pick like all female 712 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: dorms if you want, or like when I was traveling 713 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: with a group of four, we found it very economical 714 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: to book out a dorm for six people and say 715 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: that we wanted the whole thing, but it was only 716 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: four of us. Then we got like dorm rates, but 717 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: we didn't. We just split the cost and we kind 718 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: of had our own private room and that was a 719 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: good deal. But when it comes to individual travel, it 720 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: obviously like adds up because you can't split your room 721 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: cost with anybody. No, I'll be like, oh, I beck 722 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: this hotel is like two hundred bucks. Oh, it's only 723 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars ahead, Like that just doesn't work. But 724 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: did you know when students clear out for like semester breaks, 725 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: universities kind of sometimes quietly flip their dorms into budget accommodation. 726 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: Oh okay, right, anyway, this means you could score a 727 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: bed and this usually happens in like America and London, 728 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: not so much Australia, but like in a central city 729 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: location on a budget with I would say, way, if 730 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: you were drunk backpackers banking on your door at three 731 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: am in Australia, you could have a look and see 732 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: if like UNI lodge or like campus living villages do it, 733 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: because I know they do. It's just, as I said, 734 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: a little bit more scarce than overseas. Plus individual UNI 735 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: residences in Sydney, Brisbane and Perth seem to do that 736 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: over summer. Sorry, room started like forty bucks a night, 737 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 3: beck Yeah, okay, that's so good. It allers, that's so good. 738 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: That's dorm pricing, not for dorm rooms. And often you 739 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: get access to the kitchen or sorry, laundry facilities include it. 740 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: Right overseas, there's a website, and this is where you 741 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: get access to a bit more is university rooms dot 742 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: com and they have more than eight hundred different universities 743 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: across the UK, across Europe and across Canada, including get this, 744 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: you could stay at Oxford or Cambridge. Yeah, you could 745 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: put on your resume that you went to Cambridge. 746 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: It was a day so cool. Imagine and you're dating. 747 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: You're not lying, I went there one time. Like, yes, 748 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: of course I've been to Harvard. 749 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I slept there obviously. 750 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: Obviously when you could, like I don't know, you live 751 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: out your royal fantasy like American student loan dream for 752 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: a fresh of the cost. 753 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: Of a hotel. That's so good. 754 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: That is actually such a beatle work. This one I 755 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: thought was really cool. So I've been to Edinburgh before 756 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: and I loved it. I actually went to Edinburgh over 757 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: New Year's one year and went to Hogomena, which is 758 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 3: their big New Year's festival. Oh my god. I was 759 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 3: so cold because it was the middle of winter and 760 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: the middle of the night, but I had the best time. 761 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: Edinburgh unidorms actually moonlight as budget hotels during like the 762 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 3: fringe festivals, when normal accommodation prices go up. 763 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: That's so good. 764 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: Look at like times that you want to be there 765 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: because like school's not in during New Years, so you 766 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: get an empty room in Edinburgh for hogmna at a 767 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 3: really cheap price. 768 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: That's so sick. What anat idea? 769 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: All right? 770 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: Beck? 771 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: I know that a lot of this yap in has 772 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: meant that I'm running out of time very quickly, but 773 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 3: I want to know, do you have any broke tips 774 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: to share? We're going to like bring the Friday segment 775 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: into this episode to share when it comes to travel. 776 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: Like what have you round? I guess, like you know, 777 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: and other than the ones that I've used before, where 778 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, where every single item of clothing that you 779 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: can so that you don't have to Oh yeah, that's 780 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: a kicking yeah yeah, And I think this one might. 781 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: But I do think that's quite funny though. I saw 782 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 3: a girl on TikTok the other day and she's like, 783 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: if you don't want to wear all of your coats 784 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 3: and jackets and stuff, fold up, like wear an extra 785 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: extra large bra and fold up all of your undies 786 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: and all of your T shirts. No one's going to 787 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 3: question your breast size. 788 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: No. And I was like what's going on there, because 789 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: that would be rude. She'd be like, hey, my eyes 790 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: are up here, sadly, stop looking at my T shirt exactly. 791 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: So this one might not be like like a great 792 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: hack or whatever, like a lot of people might think. 793 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: If you've come up with it, I think it'll be good. 794 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: Well I would hope so, but I fear that. So 795 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: what I'm going to say is the wiki camps app, 796 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: because I tend to like I drive to Sydney a lot, 797 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: and I just love like going on little like you know, 798 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: short stays by myself or whatever, and the wiki camps 799 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: app will show you heaps of free or low coal 800 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: camping spots across Australia. 801 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good deal. 802 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 2: Ones that are and you know there are so many 803 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: free spots, but they will, like, you know, if it's 804 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: any good, you'll be able to see, like you know, 805 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: it'll show you the amenities list, but also you'll each 806 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: one will come with its own real reviews and photos 807 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: from other travelers, so you can see what you're signing 808 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: up for. 809 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: If we drive in okay, so like if you went back, 810 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: you would like take a picture and upload it and 811 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: be like this is pretty sick, or like take a 812 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: photo of a dodgy toilet and be like not so 813 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: great but still free exactly exactly okay, okay, And you 814 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: can filter it based on like, you know, I would 815 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: like a bonfire, I would like you know, a powered 816 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 3: site or whatever. 817 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: You can filter it based on what you're looking for, 818 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: and so I think it's really good. 819 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: A bonfire is so fun. You know what I hate 820 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: about bonfires, and you probably don't care as much as 821 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 3: I do because I spend a lot of time doing 822 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: my hair, is that when you go to a bonfire, 823 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: you walk away and my hair smells like the bonfire, 824 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: like shampooed it like three times. 825 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. No, I get it everything you own 826 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 2: for it because it's like the vibes. But then also 827 00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: now I smell. 828 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 4: Like a camp. 829 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: You've really got to commit to a bonfire, yeah, Like 830 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: do I stay really far away? 831 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 3: And then even when I've done that, I'm like, I 832 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: still smell like a school camp. 833 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 2: Reaches is going on somehow to get you. 834 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 4: So. 835 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: But one thing I should say is Wiki camps is 836 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: not free aut but it's just like a one min 837 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: not free. 838 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 3: How much is it? 839 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 2: It's only nine dollars ninety nine, but which I know 840 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: it's like it actually is not. 841 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 3: That's pretty good if you're getting like free camp spots 842 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 3: and like it's doing all the research for you. ID, 843 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: that's a pretty good deal. And did you say you 844 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 3: like only buy it once. 845 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 2: You o the bay ones, which you can. I like 846 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: I do every time you Okay, I like her to 847 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 2: pay up front. I know what I'm paying for and 848 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: then it's free forever. 849 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 3: I feel like a good deal. You and I I 850 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: reckon you be on accommodation. Like you find the free 851 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: camp spot. I'll go to the supermarket, get us all 852 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: the breakfast items if we need go camping night before 853 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 3: bonfire hot dogs that's from Supermico Gorges. In the morning, 854 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: we're having cereal fine, and then we can go out 855 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: for lunch at like a bougie pub or something perfect. 856 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a good weekend away. 857 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 858 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: Sorry genius, all right, beck I reckon that is probably 859 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: a very good place to leave it. I hope you 860 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: guys have picked up a few little hacks or tips 861 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 3: or tricks to make your next trip, I don't know, 862 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 3: a little bit easier. But also, like I think it's 863 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: fun doing the planning. 864 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: It is fun. It's probably in a spreadsheet. 865 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: If you're anything like me, put it in a spreadsheet 866 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 3: because it will make the planning better, but it also 867 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 3: makes it easier on your bank account. 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