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Speaker 1: Joining us on the line right now is the CEO

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Speaker 1: of the Jarwin Association. I believe I've got John Burgo

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Speaker 1: on the line. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: John, Morning Coke.

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Speaker 3: John, thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: Firstly, can you tell us a little bit about who

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Speaker 1: the Jarwin Association are for those out there listening who

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Speaker 1: maybe don't know a huge amount about the Jarwin Association.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jaren Association has been around since nineteen eighty five

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Speaker 2: and it's represented by clock communities in an around the

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Speaker 2: Katine region.

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Speaker 1: And John, do those communities include Binjari and also rock Hole?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they do.

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Speaker 1: Now, John, how are the people of Binjari and rock

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Speaker 1: Hole going at the moment in light of what is

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Speaker 1: happening with COVID.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, we're in daily contacts more than once a

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Speaker 2: day with a mob who reside in both communities, and

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Speaker 2: from their view, they're going okay. They're coping with the

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Speaker 2: hard lockdown. They have no issues with the strange defense

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Speaker 2: forces for example, police, they're define, They're hoping okay. What's

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Speaker 2: been reported on social media recently is not quite true

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Speaker 2: according to the people that are actually living there, and

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Speaker 2: they're quite upset about it. Actually, they're not happy about

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Speaker 2: what's been posted on social media. It's actually not correct

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Speaker 2: at all. It's quite your opposite, John.

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Speaker 1: There has been so much posted on social media. There

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Speaker 1: has been claims of the IDF holding people down and

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Speaker 1: vaccinating them against their will. There's been claims of children

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Speaker 1: being taken away by the IDF and taken to Howard

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Speaker 1: Springs quarantine facility without their parents.

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Speaker 3: Is any of this actually direct?

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Speaker 2: No, none of that's correct or true in any shape

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Speaker 2: or form. The Australian Defense Forts we're actually at our

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Speaker 2: office yesterday help them too to deliver food into both communities,

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Speaker 2: food that we are involved in organizing with the Chify

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Speaker 2: government and so yeah, that's that's just absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: John. Can you tell us a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: conditions that you know that people in Binjari and also

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Speaker 1: rock Holler in at the moment, you know, given the

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Speaker 1: fact that we have had a number of COVID cases.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate that there have been some cases and

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Speaker 2: the communities are not They just have to cope with

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Speaker 2: that and they're doing their best to to to be

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Speaker 2: in lockdown. You know, there's no one locks to be

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Speaker 2: locked down, but they're they're doing their best to you

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Speaker 2: to adhere to the rules to restore that. Uh, the

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Speaker 2: COVID doesn't spread any further than what it has. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're taping. Okay. I've got an ample food now, food supplies,

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Speaker 2: dry goods for example, press reggies, fruits, plenty of different

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Speaker 2: types of meats. So we're doing two day drops at

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Speaker 2: the moment, so that's enough for them to be able

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Speaker 2: to to yeah, get by each day. That's fine, It's

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Speaker 2: all okay. From coming from inside the community. We have

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Speaker 2: people there which talked to like we said earlier on

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Speaker 2: in the week, and we've been talking to them every day,

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Speaker 2: more than once a day.

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Speaker 1: John, I know that some of what is being said

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Speaker 1: on social media has been pretty you know, pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: To anybody out there listening right now who thinks that

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Speaker 1: any of that is true, what would you say to them?

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Speaker 2: Oh, so, look, you've got to listen to see what's

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Speaker 2: going on from our perspective, from a community perspective as well.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones that are down, locked in, they're the

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Speaker 2: ones experiencing this lockdown, and you know, the the accusations

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Speaker 2: of what's going on, you know, the straining defense for

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Speaker 2: us the police as well, and it's just simply not true,

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Speaker 2: not true at all. We're we're on the ground here,

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Speaker 2: we know what's going on. So I say to your

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Speaker 2: listeners that he maybe upset about what's going with, don't

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Speaker 2: be upset because the people in the communium, so define're tping, okay,

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Speaker 2: it's all good, and John a lot of supports.

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Speaker 1: I know that you mentioned earlier that some of them

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Speaker 1: are a bit upset by what is being said on

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Speaker 1: social media. What are they saying to you? Sorry, I

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Speaker 1: know that you'd said a little bit earlier that that

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Speaker 1: some of the community members are a bit upset about

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Speaker 1: some of those rumors and mistruths on on social media.

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Speaker 1: What are they you know, what are those locals saying

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Speaker 1: to you about what's being said on social media.

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Speaker 2: They're upset with what's being posted on social media, the

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Speaker 2: people that are actually doing it. They're upset with them

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Speaker 2: that they have no right to well do that. They

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Speaker 2: don't represent them, they don't live in the community, they

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Speaker 2: don't know what's going on, so it's not you know,

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Speaker 2: they're actually quite angry with them, and they've actually posted

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Speaker 2: the right messages. But he's actually going on themselves on

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Speaker 2: social media to counteract the negativity. This can't be there.

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Speaker 1: It's a real you know, when you actually take a

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Speaker 1: step back and you know, I listen to what you're

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Speaker 1: saying and look at what's going on. It's actually a

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Speaker 1: real shame that you know that there is all this

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Speaker 1: mistruth on social media and people aren't actually just more

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Speaker 1: concerned about what's going on at the moment and making

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Speaker 1: sure that those locals are actually okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why they don't call people like

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Speaker 2: us and get the correct understanding of what's going on

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Speaker 2: instead of making up stories, negative stories like you know,

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Speaker 2: what's being posted. It's not right, and it's it's not

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Speaker 2: fair on the community. It's absolutely incorrect and in some

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Speaker 2: ways it's bizarre. I don't know why they're doing this.

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Speaker 2: It's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: Now, look, how are you guys feeling over the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days in terms of what's going on in

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Speaker 1: Catherine and also in all of the communities that Jarwin represents.

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Speaker 1: Are you hoping that things sort of calm down a

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Speaker 1: little bit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the things are going I coment, I said that

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Speaker 2: you know they're taking I tell you, no one likes

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Speaker 2: to be in lockdown. But I don't understand they need

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Speaker 2: to be in order to control the situation. And generally

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Speaker 2: things are fine. You know, it's day by day, you know,

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Speaker 2: at the moment, so the supports there, everyone's checking in

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Speaker 2: to provide the necessary supports to both communities. So it's

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Speaker 2: you know, they've got regular communications, I said, and that's

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Speaker 2: the key. The communication is the key, and they're getting

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Speaker 2: the messages right and showing people are comfortable and reasonably

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Speaker 2: happy on the circumstances.

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Speaker 3: Well, John, I really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you having a chat with us and letting

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Speaker 1: us know what is really going on.

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Speaker 3: All the best to you guys and to all those.

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Speaker 1: Communities, particularly Binjari and rock Hole at this point.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.