1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned a little while ago, the latest 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: concept State of the State report it's been released and 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: according to the October twenty twenty five COMSEPT Report, the 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: territory has gone from eighth place to fourth place in 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: overall economic performance. It's best ranking in nearly a decade. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Now our current Chief Minister, Leofanocchio taking a very different approach. 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: You'd have to say to the former few chief ministers, 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: not throwing it in the bin, but using it as 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: a tool to say that the work her government is 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: doing is having a positive impact. Now she joins me 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: in the studio right now, Good morning to your Chief Minister. 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Good morning to you Katie and your wonderful listeners. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: So you didn't chuck it in the bin this time around. 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: No way. That thing's in a picture frame in the office. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: You're happy with that, very happy. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Now, tell me there's no doubt that there's some good 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: news in these numbers. I mean the Northern Territory jumping 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: from eighth to fourth overall in economic performance. Where number 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: one in Australia for economic growth up five point four percent, 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: number one for population growth, which is surprising on one 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: point three percent. And that's seventy five percent above the 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: decade average. Now what do you attribute these numbers to. 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it's great indicative data that things are on 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: the move in the right direction. So I just want 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: people to understand there's plenty more work to do, but 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: we have to celebrate these wins. 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: Everyone will remember that Labor. 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: Used to throw this report in the bin, discredited. 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Because they were failing. 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: And what we've gone from is being the worst performing 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: economy in the nation, which we've been at for about 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: six years, I think, if not longer, to now moving 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 4: into fourth place. So it's going the right way. We've 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: taken a really strong approach to rebuilding our economy. We've 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: slashed approvals time frames, We've lifted the payroll tax free threshold, 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: we've abolished third party merits review. The home build scheme 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: is going gangbusters. There's been a lot of regulatory work 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: and a lot of focus on making the territory a 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: more competitive place to live, work, visit and invest. 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: So you genuinely believe that these things that you've tried 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: in the first sort of twelve months have. 42 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: Had that impact. 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: And it's not just that we're going off a very 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: low base. 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: We were on a very low base, there's no doubt 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: about it. But things are turning around and we need 47 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: that private sector confidence and private sector investment and that's 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: what we're starting to see. So it was great to see, 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: you know, the manganese story in today's paper around shipments 50 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: coming out of Pine Creek. We've also had Tenant Creek 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: Gold come online this year. There's things that are either 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: about to start or have just started, but there's plenty 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 4: more people willing to start, and I think that's the point. 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: When you create an environment where people feel confident to 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: invest and you have that private sector dollar being spent, 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 4: that's where the real growth in the economy is. That's 57 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: where the benefit to Territorians is. 58 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean, from the outside looking in, you touched on 59 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: a couple of those smaller projects, but we, like we 60 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel as though there are any really big 61 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: major projects that have gotten off the ground. I mean 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: things like the shiplift and that we've been waiting for 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: years and years. So some people listening maybe thinking, you know, 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: will these changes and some of these sort of changes 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: to the economy were going to happen regardless of whether 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: your empower or whether labor was in power. 67 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: What do you say to that, Yeah. 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: Look, I disagree, hater, because what we've seen. You're right, 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: there is no one single project where everyone can point 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 4: to me and say Aha, it's that. Don't try and 71 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: claim it. What we're seeing across the board is people 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: spending money. So even our home build scheme, of which 73 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: we've delivered over a thousand of those ten thirty and 74 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollar grants, they're having a tremendous impact economy wide, 75 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: for territory wide. Then there's the confidence to invest. So 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: we're seeing people investing in building apartments again after years 77 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: and years of that never happening with Luck's apartments for example, 78 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: or or what's happening at Old Health House. And so 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: there's money being spent in a broader cross section of 80 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: our community by the private sector, not by government, which 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: which that dollar goes further. That's what's creating jobs, that's 82 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: what's creating stimulus, that's what will create the opportunity we need. 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: So there's plenty more work to do, but having a 84 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: strong regulatory environment is important. Certainty and government is important, 85 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: and our approval is fast tracked. Task Force Saying Yes 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: to Business report had forty eight recommendations we're implementing this 87 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: year so by by June next year, and we're well 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: and truly on track for those. So it's only going 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: to get better in terms of what we can do 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: to make the territory a better place. 91 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: So you genuinely feel as though this is the start 92 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: of it. The economy is going to continue to improve 93 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: from this point. 94 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: Well, that is absolutely our goal, Katie. We spend a 95 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: lot of energy, you know, crime in the economy, and lifestyle, 96 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 4: they're the three big things. And so even when you 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: look to that population data, our budget hopes for point 98 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: nine percent growth and we're seeing one point three percent 99 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: growth consistently. Now that's fantastic. They're tiny, tiny numbers, but 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: they're going up and that's what we want. So we 101 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: will continue to work hard, but we certainly hope those 102 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: numbers keep growing. But we'll do everything we can from 103 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: a government perspective to create the environment where the private 104 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: spec sector are the ones leading the charge, not the government. 105 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: Chief Minister. 106 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: I want to move to an issue which I've had 107 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: a number of listeners contact me about on the weekend. 108 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: As we all know, Saint Vincent De Paul's Osnam House 109 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: It moved from Stuart Park to Coconut Grove last year, 110 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: which was to be a temporary move until a permanent 111 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: site was secured. Now, over the weekend we learned that 112 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: a development application has been launched to extend the current 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: lease to September twenty twenty nine. Now, people who live 114 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: and work in the area are not happy. 115 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: Why is this being extended. 116 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't aware of that, Katie, but it doesn't 117 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: surprise me. So we've been working over the last fourteen 118 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: months to find a piece of land for Saint Vinnie's 119 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: to go. Obviously, that was something Labor had promised Saint 120 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: Vinnie's and never delivered, and so then Vinnie's were forced 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: to go to that land on a temporary basis. They 122 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: were given two years and then we've been in government 123 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: one year and so it doesn't surprise me they're having 124 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: to extend. But what we are really focused on is 125 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: making sure that Lark Here and Saint Vinnie's, you know, 126 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: prepare their MoU or whatever formal relationship they're going to 127 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: have to run the new facility, and we are putting 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: the final touches on a location and land. So we 129 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: really want this to progress. And unfortunately we're in it's 130 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: the position it is in because of the legacy left behind. 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, how quickly are you expecting that things 132 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: are going to progress, because, like we're going to be 133 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: catching up with a couple of listeners this morning who've 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: got really serious concerns about this. They say that there's 135 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: been an increase in antisocial behavior. They say there's been 136 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: an increase in crime in the area. You know, they're 137 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: having to increase their security measures because they feel as 138 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: though it's having a big impact. 139 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hear them. 140 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: It's really not a good situation, you know. And I 141 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: was very surprised by the location that was chosen by 142 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: the previous labor government. But ultimately, all we can do 143 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: is work as fast as we can to get a 144 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: new site, and that just takes a little bit of time. 145 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: I think we're nearly there, but there's a budget process 146 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 4: that has to happen as well for next year, and 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: then of course Saint Vinnie's and Larakia need to do 148 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: their part around formalizing that service delivery. 149 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: So how far off do. 150 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: You think we are from another site being secured and 151 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: that news being on the horizon. 152 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: Oh, look, somewhere between now and the next budget, which 153 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: is a bit of cold comfort for territory, and so 154 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: we're looking at May next year. But you know that's 155 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: about an eighteen month process to identify suitable land, have 156 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: the budget allocation required, and get the entities who will 157 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: ultimately be running it organized. 158 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: So is it taking so long? 159 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Like, I don't get me wrong, I understand that this 160 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: was it was a decision that was made under the 161 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: form of government, So I understand that part. 162 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: But why is it now taking so long? 163 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: Well, I think on the whole it will be a 164 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: year and a half for us, which is not that 165 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: it is a huge amount of time when you're the 166 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: next door neighbor and I get that, but when you're 167 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: the government trying to find you think about that. We 168 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: had to do all of the suitability around where this 169 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: would go, what's land service, what lands hasn't been serviced? Like, 170 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: There's a whole range of things that have to happen. 171 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: And so in eighteen months, where really we think we 172 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: can put a lid on that and give certainty and 173 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: move forward ultimately. If Labor just had to delivered on 174 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: their promise for five five and a half years ago, 175 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: we wouldn't be in this situation. 176 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Well, I should think you'll be able to sort it out. 177 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: When they didn't seem to be able to. 178 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Well, they just I have no idea why they didn't. 179 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: We're very confident. 180 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Well, I guess it comes down to nobody really wanting 181 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: the service in the shore. 182 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: But there's there's plenty of land around. We've done a 183 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: lot of work on this. I'm confident we have a 184 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: really good outcome. We've just got to, you know, finalize 185 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: those formalities, all right. 186 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Last day of parliamentary sittings last week, the Speaker accepted 187 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: a matter of privilege concerning the Member for Nightcliff. Now, 188 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: the Member for Nightcliff's been referred to the privilege as 189 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: Committee for the alleged misuse of her taxpayer funded electorate 190 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: office for electioneering, which you guys have seen is clear 191 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: breach of member entitlements. Now I know the Leader of 192 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: Government Business, Steve Edgington, saying that the Member for Nightcliff's 193 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: been absent from Parliament all afternoon, failing to represent her 194 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: electorate and instead appearing to choose an int Green's Party 195 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: event over her duty to represent the people. 196 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: She was elected to serve. 197 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Now why was the government Why did you guys so 198 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: quickly move to refer the Member for Nightcliff to privilegious. 199 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that I sort of can't 200 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: remember happening in quite some time. 201 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: Yes, So there's. 202 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: Rules under the Parliament about a matter of privilege, and 203 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 4: so if a member believes that something has arisen that 204 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: requires that type of I suppose investigation you could call it, 205 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: they then have to put that case to the Speaker, 206 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: and it's actually the Speaker who determines whether or not 207 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: it's of an urgent nature enough to be addressed by 208 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: the Parliament and referred. So obviously the Member for Goiter 209 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: felt that that was an important issue. The Speaker has 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: then agreed that it could raise a matter of privilege. 211 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: So that's now gone to that Parliamentary Committee, which is 212 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: a bipartisan committee of the Parliament. 213 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: So they'll now do whatever they need to do. 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 4: I'm not on that committy, Katie, so I don't want 215 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: to preemp what they might consider, but they will then 216 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: look to the detail of it. 217 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: But so obviously you see it as being a big 218 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: misuse of the office. 219 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: Well, if they were campaigning from her electorate, offers then 220 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: that would be something that needed to be addressed. So 221 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: again it's before the committee, so I don't want to 222 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 4: you know, that's for them to now work through. 223 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: The Anti Greens convener Jonathan Parry had said in a 224 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: statement to us on Friday that the member for Nightcliff 225 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: was traveling into state for a family matter and was 226 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: not at the event in question. He said advice received 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: prior to the event indicated that it was within acceptable 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: uses of the Electorate office and they have sought to 229 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: clarify this. I mean, do you accept that explanation? 230 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: That may very well be the case, Katie, And so 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: again it'll go through the process now and if that 232 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: is the case, then that would be the outcome. 233 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: Are you hoping comes of this, because some listening are 234 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: going to think that, you know, the rest of you 235 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: are just as bad. 236 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, if something like that 237 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: comes to a member's attention, this is the way to 238 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: go through the process. So the Greens have come out 239 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: with their statement. It will go to the committee and 240 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: what will come of that will come of that, and 241 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: that will be public. 242 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: So I know that some will think it's a bit 243 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: rich though for the CLP to a further member for 244 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: Nightcliff when questions were last week being asked about your 245 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: backbenches with assistant minister titles and if they should be 246 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: traveling on the taxpayers purse, Like why do you think 247 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: it's appropriate for them to be traveling on the taxpayers purse? 248 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: But it's inappropriate for that office to be used, and 249 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I get that there's rules in place, but do you 250 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: see the conclusions that people would be drawing. 251 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: Look, I don't. I can see how. 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: I can see how from the territory's perspective that might 253 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: mighty the warners, but they really are separate issues and 254 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: just I'm glad I have the opportunity to address this 255 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: because our assistant ministers perform really important functions of government. 256 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: And so, for example, Ollie Carlson, the Member for Wannguri, 257 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 4: as Assistant Treasurer, I've had her travel a number of 258 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: times to Nolan Boy to support me directly with the 259 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: transition after Rio Mind closes. So she's been out there 260 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: building relationships with Retingu and Good Much Corporations and providing 261 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: that important advice to me. And then when I went out, 262 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: I brought her with me so that we had that 263 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 4: continuity so that there are very significant roles that they 264 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: can play, and we have such a highly capable team. 265 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: I don't know why any cabinet would want to stop 266 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: their assistant ministers from but why not. 267 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: Formalize that thing, you know, why not make sure that 268 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: they're from the discussion that we'd had on the week 269 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: that was last week. My understanding, and please correct me 270 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, is that they're not. They don't have 271 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: to swear an oath or they don't have to actually 272 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, go through that's the processes, and I get 273 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, taxpayers are not going to be accepting in 274 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: any way. I think if they were getting paid more 275 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: sure to do a set minister's roles. But I think 276 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: that if they're then dealing with potentially confidential information or 277 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: they're then taking on this additional responsibility, should it actually 278 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: be formalized so that territories can be rest assured that 279 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: they're not accessing informational or you know, delving into things 280 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't be. 281 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: No, well they're not, and so cabinet confidence remains absolute. Catie, 282 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: this is this is on other issues or perhaps projects 283 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: like you know, if I reflect back to when I 284 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: was I think we called it parliamentary secretary back in 285 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: those days, which is more of a federal term. You know, 286 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: I worked on a military project, excuse me. And you 287 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: know there's other things, so it just it just depends. 288 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: But you know, these are these are important people who've 289 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 4: been elected by the community to do an important job. 290 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: And I think eleven thousand dollars over three members and 291 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: five or six trips shows actually have responsible We're being 292 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: in spending money and the territory is a big place, 293 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 4: and you know, even just for for the member for 294 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: Onenguri for example, you know, to get to Nullen Boyd 295 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: two or three times. It does cost money, but is 296 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: it worth it? 297 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely well. 298 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: But how can the public be sure then if there's 299 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: not a report or some kind of information that comes 300 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: out that actually demonstrates that that money is being used 301 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: to their. 302 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: Expectation, Well, it's an extension of what we do. 303 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: So when ministers travel, there's no report as such on that, 304 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: I mean. 305 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: But generally you send out a media release letting people 306 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: know that a minister is traveling. There used to be 307 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: an expectation that the amount was at the bottom of 308 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: and that continues on. So I mean, something like the 309 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Nullanboy project. That's a really sensitive I mean, that's been 310 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: going on. 311 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: For about six years, so it's really there's not really 312 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: anything to report except to say that we're really value 313 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: Nullanboy and we really value working with our traditional owner 314 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: groups out there to get a really strong resolution and 315 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 4: make sure that we're working to hold Rio accountable for 316 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: that transition. So as there are points in time for that, 317 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: for example, where things can. 318 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: Be said, of course we will. 319 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: But there's a lot of work that happens that isn't 320 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: you know at a stage that really you can notify 321 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: people about yet. 322 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: So those roles are not gammon like you guys have 323 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: called them when in opposition. 324 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: Sure it was a long time ago, Katie, And look, 325 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: make no mistake, I think some of Labor's were absolutely gammon. 326 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: But how can you not like this is a tough part, right, 327 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Like at the moment you do seem to have the 328 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: goodwill of territorians, but you've got to be careful you 329 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: don't take the piece. 330 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: But we're not. And I think that's the thing. 331 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: If it were just titles for title's sake and people 332 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: weren't doing that work, then that would be just a fuss, right, 333 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: it's just a label to give some make someone feel good, 334 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: and that was certainly our interpretation of what labor we're doing. 335 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: We're actually using our assistant ministers to perform really critical 336 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: roles of government, which not only expands their knowledge, which 337 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: which gives better outcomes for the community, but it assists 338 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: us in leveraging more resources to do more work, which 339 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: gets more things done. So I think that's the point 340 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: of different friends, and we can take it. I get 341 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: that people are having a crack at the moment, and 342 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: that's fine, but we're talking about eleven thousand dollars in 343 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 4: multiple instances of travel that have benefited things like our 344 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: economy or the future of somewhere like Noulan Boy, and 345 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: that's just important business of government. 346 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: I guess the tough thing is is it's on the 347 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: back of the white carm issues, which you. 348 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: And I have spoken about before. 349 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: So you know, I suppose what you're asking people to 350 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: do is just trust you, whereas by very nature, people 351 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: don't really trust politicians. So if all the facts are 352 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: laid out, if they're on the table, people are able 353 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: to see the rules, then it's much easier for them 354 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: to make up their own minds. 355 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. 356 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: And again with assistant ministers, they're able we get them 357 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: doing work that we would otherwise do, which allows us 358 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: to you know, double the amount of impact that we 359 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: can have and so that travel is in accordance with 360 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: our travel. And again when there's milestones, will absolutely tell 361 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: people about it. But some of it is just you know, 362 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: some of it is just business as usual type of stuff. 363 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: Others is very very like this. 364 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 4: As I said, the Nulan boy issue has been going 365 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 4: on for many, many years. So it's it's a very 366 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: slow but important process. 367 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: All Right, I want to move along because there's quite 368 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: a bit to still get through, and I know your 369 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: press for time. The legislation to overhaul integrity bodies that 370 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: was introduced, the Integrity and Ethics Commissioner Bill. That legislation 371 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: establishes the new Integrity and Ethics Commissioner, the IEC, and 372 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: implements the key recommendations of the recent McClintock highly report. 373 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: What are the first steps. 374 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: And how quickly are we anticipating that this is going 375 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: like this change is going to get underway? 376 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is really important reform after what's been 377 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 4: a really sorry, sad tale for the IKAC unfortunately, and 378 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: you know, people have talked a lot about people losing 379 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: confidence in the system. It's cost about thirty five million 380 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 4: dollars since its inception, and so we need to get 381 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: this right. Integrity is critical. It's really really important that 382 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 4: people do have confidence. And so with the McClintock highly report, 383 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: there was a very clear plan going forward. We've implemented 384 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: it in full. So this is not cherry picking. This 385 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: is doing what the report says. That legislation will be 386 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: debated in November, and what it will mean is that 387 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: early into the new year, probably end of quarter one, 388 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 4: I would imagine that will all be the new Integrity 389 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: Ethics Commission will be established. Once the legislation is passed, 390 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: we'll be able to go to recruitment for the new 391 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 4: Commissioner and all of the transitional provisions that are already 392 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 4: in PRA place. So it's business as usual for Health 393 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 4: Complaints commission and Ombitsman and Information Commissioner and EYECAC. They 394 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: are still performing their roles to the fullness of their 395 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: duties and this would just bring them into one model 396 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: which should provide better support, better oversight, and better resourcing 397 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: for all of those really important functions. 398 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: Why did you not have this go to the Scrutiny 399 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: Committee because. 400 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: We wanted it to reflect the McClintock highly report. Those 401 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 4: those two people are eminent in this issue of integrity, 402 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 4: and so it is really important that the structure be 403 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 4: delivered in accordance with that report. 404 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: And you didn't feel that it still could even if 405 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: it went through the Scrutiny Committee. 406 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: Well, there may have been a myriad of recommendations about 407 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: a range of other things that this bill doesn't do, 408 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: Like this bill doesn't change powers, for example, So we're 409 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 4: not tinkering around with powers and watering things down or 410 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: changing anything. 411 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: This is about the structure. So the structure is very clear. 412 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 4: But let's not forget the bill is out on the 413 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 4: table for consultation now, so if people want to read it, 414 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 4: if they're concerned about it, all of the members of 415 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: Parliament are available and talking to their communities about it. 416 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 4: So it's going through the proper process. But we've had 417 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: a report from eminent professionals around what it should look like, 418 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: and we are delivering exactly what it should look like. 419 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Chief Minister, I want to move to a tragic situation. 420 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: The coroner's report was handed down on Friday into the 421 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: death of a little girl in the rural area as 422 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: away at childcare. I mean, it's the kind of tragedy 423 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: that no family should ever have to deal with. The coroner, 424 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Armitage, recommended that the government conduct a supervision audit 425 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: across all childcare centers in the NT and impose penalties 426 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: on any that failed to rectify identified issues in a 427 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: timely manner. Chief, Is this something that your government's going 428 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: to commit to. 429 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is an absolute tragedy and just I think 430 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 4: everyone's collective hearts are with the family. It's just been awful, 431 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 4: and so were really pleased this coronial as conclude, and 432 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: we've got the recommendation, so we will now work through 433 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: all of those and of course explain to territories what 434 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 4: the next steps look like. So that's still very fresh, Katie, 435 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: but suffice to say, we are very, very committed to this, 436 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: and most, if not all, of your listeners will either 437 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: have put their kids through childcare like I have, or 438 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 4: be putting their kids through childcare now. And I'm getting 439 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: goosebumps just talking about it. You know, it is they're 440 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: our children, they're our future. They're the love of our lives, Katie, 441 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: and we need to make sure that they are protected. 442 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 4: And so you know, this is a very serious coronial 443 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: that we'll of course respond to. 444 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 445 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: Look, I read through those recommendations on air on Friday. 446 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: Some of them it is heart wrenching stuff. I cannot 447 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: begin to imagine how that little family feels. 448 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: But I guess that's why. 449 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, that recommendation of a supervision audit across all 450 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: child care centers in the Northern Territory, to me seems 451 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: like real common sense and something that should happen as 452 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: quickly as possible. 453 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: Surely you're great. 454 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's lots of the recommendations that are really practical 455 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: and sensible, Katie. And that's that's something governments can work with. 456 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 4: You know, when you have coronial recommendations that are intangible, 457 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 4: you know, it becomes really difficult for a government to respond. 458 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 4: But when you have really clear cut steps that you 459 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: can take to make a system better, makes it very 460 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 4: easy to say yes, and it makes it even easier 461 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: to implement. So it's very early days. We will not 462 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: drag our feet, make no mistake, Katie. And to your 463 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: listeners who are concerned This is really urgent and important, 464 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: and we're looking at it right now very quickly. 465 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: The Darwin and Casuarina bus into changes they closed today 466 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: were school students well informed of those changes, because the 467 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: ABC was reporting that some kids were left in limbo 468 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: with buses arriving earlier and lots of uncertainty about where 469 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: they now catch the bus. 470 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that should have been communicated. 471 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 4: I'm not across all of the bus details, and I 472 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: don't have kids to catch a bus, so I don't 473 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: know it intimately, Katie. But there are now the existing 474 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: stops at Trau Roads, Cautuccio Street and Bradshood Terrace. That's 475 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: where people will be catching the buses from and routes one, one, 476 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: h two and twenty four, and the school buses will 477 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: depart from Trau Roads. So that might answer some of 478 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: your listener's questions there. But this is a big commitment 479 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: of us to support a more efficient bus system and 480 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: drive down antisocial behavior, which we've been able to drop 481 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 4: incidents on buses by twenty percent over the last year, 482 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: so plenty more work to do again, but this will 483 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 4: be another big step and I'll tell you what I 484 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 4: can speak for everyone listening from Palmerstan that we can't 485 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: wait for the Barmston devot to. 486 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: Get sorted out as well. 487 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: So I know the Treasurer is looking at that closely, 488 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: but I think we'll see. I think we'll see the 489 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: community really embrace his change once people get used to 490 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 4: it and change is heard. And we apologize if there 491 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: has been any communication issues or inconvenience cause, but moving forward, 492 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: this will be. 493 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: A great step forward for territory bus users. 494 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Chief Minister Leathanociaro, we better let you go. Thanks very 495 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: much for your time this morning. 496 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: Take care everyone. 497 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: Thank you,