WEBVTT - Could This Be the Craziest Trial Ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms on kit Flex and Frooms. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast version see yat Macytos. When's I going to get annoying?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it already has. Is it annoying for you

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<v Speaker 1>to always put to self assess getting there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Use it in a post a couple of days, agoth

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<v Speaker 2>honton it's on those last legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Get your money's worth while you can. Oh, coming up,

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about a lot of great things. I personally

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<v Speaker 3>am obsessed with the podcast only because you know me,

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<v Speaker 3>I love a epee love it. Little chitty chitty, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to speak at length about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't stop, really she doesn't, but I do actually do.

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<v Speaker 2>In between records, we don't really talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to talk so much now I think I

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<v Speaker 3>took fifty percent less, if not more.

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<v Speaker 1>How many podcasts did I used to do? Too many?

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<v Speaker 3>How many online little like learning things?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone, look at this thing I learned. Let me teach

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<v Speaker 3>you or what I learned.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I want to try and diagnose you. Something's going

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<v Speaker 2>on When I try and explain you to people, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it. What's happening so much?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Babe? You do so much? Yeah, it's feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wild doctor irregular sleeping patterns for sure, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a flag of something you have racing mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so many thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not adhd or at least it's not traditional presenting

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<v Speaker 2>highly functioning.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm just masking it all

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<v Speaker 3>very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're just manic.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think i'm that manic. I'm pretty like, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the last cooked thing I've done? I haven't done a

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<v Speaker 3>cooked thing in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>The feet stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in Bali last week, Mum goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>look at that, showed me your feet with the manicure,

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<v Speaker 2>which the feet has the eyes manicure.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, that's discussing now. I don't think anything's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with you. I just think you're like very productive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really sweet, thank you. I'm just a product of capitalism. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>later on we'll be talking about my fellow handmaiden of capitalism,

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<v Speaker 3>Kim Kardashian. She said that if she had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to eat pooh every day, if it would make her

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<v Speaker 3>look and feel younger, that she just might. And instead

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<v Speaker 3>of talking about that, we talked about beauty standards.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally the best bit about it completely ignored. Sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just as my brain was trying to compute, Yeah, the concept.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we had different ideas about the concept always though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best thing. I don't think we've had a

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<v Speaker 1>similar idea in our life. Probably not. That's sweet. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we talked about Sorry, I was just putting some

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<v Speaker 1>croc sound effects.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about sweden Gate, which started off as a

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<v Speaker 3>raddit post. People found out that in Sweden, traditionally, generally

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know. We're not there, but it's not customary

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<v Speaker 3>to feed your guests. When they come over. They'll often

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<v Speaker 3>wait in the other room while you feast, and then

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<v Speaker 3>when you're done, you can bring them back in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, it's not meant to be offensive. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't want to feed you, or because they're

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<v Speaker 3>too cheap too. It's because they assume that you have

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<v Speaker 3>dinner plans and you have your own traditions that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be interrupted. We'll see about that stingy.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick around. Enjoy the pod flecks.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know people get really frustrated when media personalities, writers,

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<v Speaker 3>content creators talk about the Kardashians. But I for one,

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<v Speaker 3>think they are just a well of content. There's not

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<v Speaker 3>a day that goes by where one of them doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>do something that warrants a headline. And you think, by now,

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<v Speaker 3>with almost a decade, if not more, in the entertainment industry,

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<v Speaker 3>what could they be saying that could warrant global fanfare?

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<v Speaker 3>Kim Kardashian said, and I quote, if you told me

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<v Speaker 3>that I literally had to eat poop every single day

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<v Speaker 3>and I would look younger, I might, I just might.

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<v Speaker 3>So many people want to act like they don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about how they look. I'm not acting like it comes

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<v Speaker 3>easier or it's all natural. You just don't wake up

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<v Speaker 3>and use whatever you wake up you use ingredients, the

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<v Speaker 3>PRP facials, stem cell facials, lasers. All of that is

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<v Speaker 3>work that came off the back of the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>people found out that in preparation for the Metgala, Kim

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<v Speaker 3>Kardashian lost I think it was sixteen pounds, did in

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<v Speaker 3>a very unhealthy, restrictive way, and she was very open

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<v Speaker 3>about doing so just to fit into this very small

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<v Speaker 3>archival Marilyn Monroe dress. And she came out and said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>Christian Bales done that for his movies. And nobody said

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<v Speaker 3>that it was too far or not enough. In the

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<v Speaker 3>same way that he chose to do something restrictive for

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<v Speaker 3>his craft, I'm doing the same for mine. Why is

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<v Speaker 3>there a double standard? And I think that is a

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<v Speaker 3>very cheeky way address what is happening here, because in

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<v Speaker 3>this instance, I think that what the Kardashians do very

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<v Speaker 3>often is they skirt around the fact that they have

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<v Speaker 3>this huge megaphone to influence the way people act, think,

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<v Speaker 3>do believe, and then play a little bit dumb about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would make sense if Kim was just

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<v Speaker 3>like and so what like, I wanted to look good,

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to look cute, and I did what was necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>The double sound I think that would be bad now

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<v Speaker 3>because I think, in this instance, do you really think

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<v Speaker 3>Kim said Kim thought as she was getting ready, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>men do this all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Actors do this all the time. This is my craft.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the retrospective trying to put like almost

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<v Speaker 3>like theoretical context behind why it's okay is what makes

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the critique happen more because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like the Kardashians operate in a very superficial landscape it's

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<v Speaker 3>about looking pretty, it's about feeling pretty. But in trying

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<v Speaker 3>to justify it, it always kind of gets political in

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<v Speaker 3>a way that you could you could hold so much

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<v Speaker 3>power to just say I want to look cute, this

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<v Speaker 3>one about it or good as opposed to now making

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<v Speaker 3>it a gendered conversation. And it can be a gendered conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's talk about that when it matters, Like when

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<v Speaker 3>the Kardashians are stealing aesthetics of black women, it can

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<v Speaker 3>be a gender discussion. But then when that's happening, they well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>like some European people wear braids or have small waists

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<v Speaker 3>and big butt, not only Black women have big butts, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's like, I get what you're saying, Kimmi,

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<v Speaker 3>but do you get what you're saying? Yep, yep, yep, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I hadn't thought about the Christian Bale connection.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised that they pulled that out of thing. If

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't have even thought about.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa it was obtuse it was abstract in the context

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<v Speaker 3>of beauty standards, We're not measuring women against men. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not how beauty standards work. We're measuring women against women

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<v Speaker 3>based on standards that men popularized.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the issue is that she's promoting unhealthy behaviors, is

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<v Speaker 2>what we're saying. But I think if you use that argument,

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<v Speaker 2>then everything that she's ever done is problematic.

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<v Speaker 1>Love the chat, Love.

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<v Speaker 2>The chat, And I feel like we didn't touch enough

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<v Speaker 2>on her eating pooh.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess that's you're not segment. Somehow we miss

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<v Speaker 1>that point. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Up next, you're gonna be telling something something about Sweden. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to be your favorite topic week.

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<v Speaker 3>They're having a terrible pr moment right now in media.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not looking good.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 3>You've traveled a bit, right, like a bit from Bali Ballet.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done the eure.

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<v Speaker 2>Never Europe doing it in September tips hit him in

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<v Speaker 2>the inbox at rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really want them?

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<v Speaker 2>Nuh?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's good to know when you're lying. So I've

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<v Speaker 3>done a bit of traveling in my time. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to do more. I'm trying to go to places I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to call them niche. But let's say if

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<v Speaker 3>I said I was going to Europe, and I said

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to Prague. That feels a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>niche than saying I'm going to London. But I digress.

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<v Speaker 3>I am fascinated with the cultural norms that exist in

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<v Speaker 3>different places, because when you're born and raised in one environment,

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<v Speaker 3>it sometimes comes as a bit of a shock when

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else's cultural norm is so far from what you

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<v Speaker 3>could even imagine to be true or real.

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<v Speaker 1>In Ghana, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not unusual for generations of families to raise one kid,

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<v Speaker 3>so you could walk around as a toddler and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that is my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe that's my mom who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>They all raised me and that's very normal, Whereas in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia you very clearly know, like that person is your mum,

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<v Speaker 3>that person is your dad, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, culturally.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was younger, my mom hated the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>me sleeping over at friend's houses. She was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>do not know those people. I do not trust those people.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what happens in their houses. She was

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<v Speaker 3>very adamant that, you know, cook things happen all the

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<v Speaker 3>time with pairsarents and their children behind closed doors. Did

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<v Speaker 3>not want to expose me to that which is pretty fair.

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<v Speaker 3>But recently online this hashtag sweden Gate went viral, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was very odd because last week we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about Sweden was in the news because there's an

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<v Speaker 3>eight year rental weight list if you want to rent

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<v Speaker 3>a home. If you want to hear more about that,

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<v Speaker 3>listen to our podcast Flex and Rooms. But sweden Gate

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<v Speaker 3>was a thread on Reddit, which has since been deleted.

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<v Speaker 3>Why Conspiracy asking people to share about their experiences and

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<v Speaker 3>strange social customs visiting other people's homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone tweeted about their experience as a child playing at

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<v Speaker 3>their friend's house in Sweden and they were told to

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<v Speaker 3>wait in their friend's room as the family had dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>What Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Another shared an experience being left out of breakfast after

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping over at a friend's house the night before, and

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<v Speaker 3>the post generated so many upfots that people were like,

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<v Speaker 3>what is going on in Sweden? Basically, what I'm discovering

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<v Speaker 3>and after a bit of research, is that it is

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<v Speaker 3>not expected for Swedish people to feed or snack guests

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<v Speaker 3>in any capacity. So if you were to go to

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<v Speaker 3>a Swedish person's house and you were hanging out with

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<v Speaker 3>your friend, you would wait in the other room as

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<v Speaker 3>a dinner, and then they would come back and get

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<v Speaker 3>you when you were done. Now, some people say, some

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<v Speaker 3>Swedish people say that this is like a traditional thing

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<v Speaker 3>or like it's they've heard of it, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>happen in their household. But overwhelmingly people like it's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>commonent enough that people traveling in have experienced that and

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<v Speaker 3>felt really isolated and thought it was almost like a

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<v Speaker 3>separate incident, like you didn't want to feed me, not

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<v Speaker 3>culturally not feeding people. So this Swedish guy weighs in

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<v Speaker 3>and said, the Swedish thinking goes like this, the other

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<v Speaker 3>child or the other family who's visiting the Swedish person's

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<v Speaker 3>home might have other plans for another kind of dinner,

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<v Speaker 3>and you wouldn't want to ruin the routine or preparations.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's anything to do with not wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to feed the other child or because it costs money

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<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. It's more to do with tradition

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<v Speaker 3>and wanting to eat with your own family. And other

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<v Speaker 3>Swedes offer different explanations as to why it's happening from

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<v Speaker 3>old traditions which put the onus of hospitality on the rich.

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<v Speaker 3>So Sweden was once a poor country, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't expected for them to now extend beyond their means

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<v Speaker 3>to feed someone where there wasn't much to go around.

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<v Speaker 3>That feels kind of debunked, though, because there are a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of you know, generally not rich nation to have

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<v Speaker 3>a huge culture in sharing and feeding, et cetera. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing is the Swedes are defensive.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweden is at.

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<v Speaker 3>The best pr of like all countries until two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Ago something, because I remember they give people like little

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<v Speaker 2>babies cuts and stuff when they're born. Do they like

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<v Speaker 2>they gave men parentally before that was I think yes, progressive.

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<v Speaker 1>In some ways, not in the ways where it matters feed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of me thinks, and I don't want to take

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<v Speaker 3>it to conspiracy town, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It never is gonna not be bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I do want to take it there,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just have to put the disclaimer every time.

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<v Speaker 3>But this reminds me of cancel culture, not in the

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<v Speaker 3>way that Sweden is getting canceled, but in the way

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<v Speaker 3>that as soon as one slightly unsavory story leaks, suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's got stories. Maybe it says something about the way

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<v Speaker 3>people can textualize social norms, like it wasn't appropriate to

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<v Speaker 3>speak quote unquote poorly about Sweden or its traditions when

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<v Speaker 3>Sweden was seen in such a positive light, but now

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<v Speaker 3>it's slightly more neutral.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pylon. Absolutely, we see this everywhere. It's the pedestal.

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<v Speaker 2>So odd that they get not from the pedestal. They oh,

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<v Speaker 2>actually didn't because we'd like want to over things. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think no one's immune, even countries. And I

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<v Speaker 2>also think it's like Sweden was considered better than everyone

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<v Speaker 2>for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hot people do the Americans kape?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But then it's kind of like, are they really

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<v Speaker 2>getting like.

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<v Speaker 1>Ripped now they're not getting ripped.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I empathize with Swedish people right now is it's

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<v Speaker 3>really hard to defend culture because we don't know why

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<v Speaker 3>culture really exists. We just kind of assimilate and we

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<v Speaker 3>keep a pushing. We don't know why we do certain

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<v Speaker 3>things in certain ways. We don't know why it's appropriate

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<v Speaker 3>to eat certain foods, kill certain animals, go to certain places,

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<v Speaker 3>expect certain things from different genders.

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<v Speaker 1>We just do them.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I could imagine, as like a Swedish person

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<v Speaker 3>right now to retrospectively be like, oh fuck, like why didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>We feed those people?

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<v Speaker 3>And if you grew up in a household and your

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<v Speaker 3>parents didn't feed your friends and now you're not feeding

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<v Speaker 3>your friends, you didn't really think about why. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>got to think about it a light at once.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I reckon. It's kind it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when you realize. I think it reminds me when

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<v Speaker 3>people realize their family is racist. They're kind of like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know. It's like the inside the house.

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<v Speaker 3>The call is coming from inside the house.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if these days traditions are broken more easily

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<v Speaker 2>than in the past, Like I feel like traditions are

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that have existed for like thousands of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Like for example, if you and I would have gone

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<v Speaker 2>out for dinner, I was brought up like in my

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<v Speaker 2>teenage years when I could choose to pay for things split.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas we start going out together, you start pay I

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<v Speaker 2>start paying back, and then that creates a culture. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you can actually change your culture in these days

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<v Speaker 2>and times because you can seek out whoever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about selfies that was so that was culturally weird

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<v Speaker 2>as food yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been around them to thousand and five. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I remember back then it wasn't it was awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>Can be you're talking about cultural to traditions or habits

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<v Speaker 3>because for instance, this thing with Swedish people not feeding guests, right,

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<v Speaker 3>if you, as one person decide to feed your guests,

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<v Speaker 3>you're hyper individualizing your culture. You're saying, my culture is

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<v Speaker 3>the some of my actions. Therefore, if I change my

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<v Speaker 3>individual action, the culture changes. And that's like not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>true to some of everybody changing their actions.

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<v Speaker 2>I take a long game approach. I think it does

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<v Speaker 2>start with one, and I'm hopeful.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think when you say it starts with one,

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<v Speaker 3>it distances you from change. It starts with one. Does

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<v Speaker 3>start with you? Is that with your community, your friends,

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<v Speaker 3>your family, or just like one rogue person in South Ipswich.

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<v Speaker 3>You made the change, though in ten years time you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for much.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg, thank you for making steamed funds on every from

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that we do now be the change you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see. You're listening to flex and frooms, Okada.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So I want to do a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>an activity with you, through me and with anyone listening

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to play the first five seconds of this video.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to pause it, and then you were going

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<v Speaker 3>to think, keep your thoughts to yourself. Actually, I show

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<v Speaker 3>your thoughts with me. Then we're gonna keep playing the video.

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<v Speaker 1>You down for that, I'm ready. Great.

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<v Speaker 4>I eat a tablespoon of sand every single day.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought, yep, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know how you do that. Do what eat a

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<v Speaker 1>tablespoon of sand? Why do you think he does that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it hurts?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh machoism You called it machoism?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mean masochism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't speak with all this sand in.

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<v Speaker 1>My mouth so confidently too.

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<v Speaker 3>See, when I first heard that, I thought, gosh, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really into fitness TikTok right now because I've been going

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<v Speaker 3>to the gym right so somehow the TikTok algorithm knows

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<v Speaker 3>my business. So it showed me like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>weightlifting videos, macros, macro nutrients or whatever. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, this is just the trend. Sometimes they're

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<v Speaker 3>eating sand, and that's really what I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Now in the past five seconds, how many different stories

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<v Speaker 4>of why I eat sand were you able to come

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<v Speaker 4>up with? This is the perfect example of different biases

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<v Speaker 4>and stories that our nervous system will tell us. It

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<v Speaker 4>will naturally fill in the blanks with associations and assumptions

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<v Speaker 4>to help us better understand context. So when something doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>make sense in your life, you need to take some

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<v Speaker 4>mental and emotional inventory to see the stories that you

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<v Speaker 4>are building. In fact, I don't need sand every single day.

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<v Speaker 4>Great example, though, to see the amount of stories that

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<v Speaker 4>your nervous system will produce. Now, the real fun question

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<v Speaker 4>is most of us, probably eighty five percent, have a

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<v Speaker 4>negativity bias. Did the stories that you built around me

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<v Speaker 4>eating sand? Were they positive? Were they negative? It's a

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<v Speaker 4>really great mental track to see what your system is

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<v Speaker 4>actually doing because your system typically doesn't rally in your favor.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you love that? I love that? You didn't like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Just me?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you're always very deep. That's not deep at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're too shallow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, giving another word, and let's do one. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>with everything right.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say if I said I really want to watch

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<v Speaker 3>TV tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, you've had a big day, you want to relax.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly as opposed to she just loves this new show

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<v Speaker 3>she's watching she's really excited about TV. Oh, she's so

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<v Speaker 3>stoked to have a break and eat dinner. So what

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<v Speaker 3>this person is saying is that generally our brains are

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<v Speaker 3>constantly looking to categorize all the information that we're given,

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<v Speaker 3>and with the more technologically advanced the world gets, we're

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<v Speaker 3>just given too much stuff. We are working as fast

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<v Speaker 3>as ever to try and categorize and process and package

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<v Speaker 3>up everything we've heard, to the point where we automatically

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<v Speaker 3>put things in these neat little categories without even thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about what's influencing the way we think. Why when this

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<v Speaker 3>random guy says he eats sand I immediately say that

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense, Like I'm on fit of set up, how

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<v Speaker 3>much it's rotting my brain that he would just say something,

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<v Speaker 3>and not only would I perceive him to be truthful

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<v Speaker 3>and trustworthy, of course I just go with it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing that he mentioned at the end is

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<v Speaker 3>this bias, And I think that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>aren't really aware of the positivity and negativity bias when

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<v Speaker 3>they're having conversations. So this idea that when I say

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to go home and watch TV, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the assumption that I'm having a bad day a big day,

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<v Speaker 3>A long day is very telling because if I don't

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<v Speaker 3>ever address your bias or address your presumption, you might

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<v Speaker 3>think I go home every day after a long day,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so tired, I'm stress. It can also be said

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<v Speaker 3>for really basic things like if I look at you

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<v Speaker 3>as you're speaking and I don't say anything, you think

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<v Speaker 3>I'm judging you. Every time i'm blank head, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's coming up next? How much time do we have?

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<v Speaker 3>Can we go in this deeper? Can we talk some more?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you finishing up your sentence and I'm just listening,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're thinking that there's more going on behind my eyes?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing or rarely anything, because I'm a very chatty person.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's something that I'll say it, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It really shouldn't matter either way. What you're thinking is

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<v Speaker 2>I should be on my own track.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you will never know exactly. It's a lesson.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to do extra research those things

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<v Speaker 3>that he's talking about. This bias is called a schema,

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<v Speaker 3>and we all have different schemas about ourselves, about other people,

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<v Speaker 3>about social environments, about situations, about objects, and so the

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<v Speaker 3>sooner you can figure out what stories you tell yourself

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<v Speaker 3>about your self, people, objects, events. The sooner you can

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<v Speaker 3>like break the circuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, good to unland them if they're a negative schemer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go, psychologists, flick and fos. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to start off with the most ridiculous headline and tell

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<v Speaker 3>me how it makes you feel. Ridiculous in the sense

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<v Speaker 3>it's bizarre, not because the contents are ridiculous. Disclaimers are

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<v Speaker 3>always necessary. Sheep found guilty and sentenced to three years

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<v Speaker 3>in jail for killing a woman in Africa. In the

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<v Speaker 3>latest edition of Bizarre News, a sheep has been found

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<v Speaker 3>guilty and sentenced to three years in jail for killing

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<v Speaker 3>a woman in Sudan, Africa. It's reported that earlier this month,

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<v Speaker 3>police in South Sudan took a sheep into custody after

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<v Speaker 3>attacked a forty five year old woman. It's reported that

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<v Speaker 3>the ramp repeatedly headbutted her and broke her ribs, and

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<v Speaker 3>while recovering from the attack, she sadly succumbed to her injuries. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not the first time that animals have been arrested

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<v Speaker 3>in history.

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<v Speaker 1>It's happened quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>What when, Yeah, Like in the sixteenth century, it was

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<v Speaker 3>a rooster put on trial because it laid an egg

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<v Speaker 3>and roosters can't lay eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a hen.

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<v Speaker 3>It happens misdiagnosis, it's diagnosed it, so this is not

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<v Speaker 3>the first time, but it still is so bizarre. In

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<v Speaker 3>that case of the rooster and the hen, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 3>sure the rooster lost the trial because it didn't show

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<v Speaker 3>up to court because it had no lawyer to represent it,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what time it was meant to go classics,

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<v Speaker 3>tardy for the party.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he get lynched?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure, and I should know because I did

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<v Speaker 3>a deep dive on this once before. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>these old history stories, the records aren't clear.

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<v Speaker 1>What are all those people? How did they live? People

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<v Speaker 1>in the old days scare me.

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<v Speaker 3>But people now, I think the average person does a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty poor job of documenting their life, like you don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what happened last week, Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of nice like that. So I almost dround. I

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<v Speaker 2>won't stop talking about that. You shouldn't milk it, flex

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<v Speaker 2>and frooms sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you love to make money. We love

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about money.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a really beautiful thing to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>because it's crafty, it's kind of like strategic and Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>James not sure if you're a fan, big basketballer man,

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<v Speaker 2>absolute icon. He made one hundred and twenty one point

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<v Speaker 2>two million dollars last year, which means he has become

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<v Speaker 2>the first active NBA player to be a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's with what like through sponsorships, through his signing deal, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>where is that money coming from?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's thirty seven years old, which is like ten years

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<v Speaker 2>older than us. I think of Lebron James as super old.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, like Lebron is he's been around for so long, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Has like Beyonce, but she's also like forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah old, just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>He has just completed his nineteenth season in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's the second NBA star overall to join the

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<v Speaker 2>three Comma club with one billion dollars. He joins Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan's billionaire billionaire. He joins Michael Jordan, who did so

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fourteen, but that was long after his career

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<v Speaker 2>came to an end. Per Forbes, James is the highest

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<v Speaker 2>paid active player in the NBA, having earned more than

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and eighty five million in total salary from

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Cavaliers, Miami Heat, and Los Angeles Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>But Los Angeles Lakers, how else do you say it?

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<v Speaker 1>La Lakers Lakers?

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<v Speaker 3>They say, you know, Frums is plagiarizing this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a copy of paste. I never know what the

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<v Speaker 1>next is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>The bulk of his worth comes via endorsements and business

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<v Speaker 2>ventures totally more than nine hundred million, including a lifetime

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<v Speaker 2>deal with Nike that pays him tens of millions per year.

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<v Speaker 3>A lifetime deal with Nike. I wonder what that looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>And what happens if one day he makes a one

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<v Speaker 2>to eighty turn and decides all he wants to do

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<v Speaker 2>is eat McDonald's and.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit at home. He could do that with ease, and

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<v Speaker 1>now he would stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>And meant, well, yeah, I think the contract exists while

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<v Speaker 3>he's playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it exists exists if he stops playing.

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<v Speaker 3>He could stop today and still be a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess NI line up to work with him even

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<v Speaker 1>if he stopped playing. Look at Shack very tall. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>as basketball players are hanging on by a thread, But

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<v Speaker 1>how cool is that?

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<v Speaker 2>So I reckon sports people if you go about it cleverly. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of pressure actually, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia on like AFL players, because you make tons of

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<v Speaker 2>money when you're like ten, and then you retire when

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<v Speaker 2>you're twelve, and then you don't have a Uni degree.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have this, or you don't have that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a Uni degree. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think athletes can pivot into entertainment seamlessly. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they have a lot more career prospects than we give

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<v Speaker 3>them credit for. But I also think, to Lebron's credit,

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<v Speaker 3>very few athletes will ever even have a percentage of

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<v Speaker 3>what he's made.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, not only do you need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be so physically gifted to be an athlete that's already

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<v Speaker 3>the first hurdle, Then to not be injured at any

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<v Speaker 3>capacity to maintain your career.

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<v Speaker 1>Second hurdle, then.

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<v Speaker 3>To maintain or gain enough notoriety, enough popularity to be

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<v Speaker 3>worth any kind of sponsorship, because there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>athletes who aren't mainstream popular. Then to be a good

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<v Speaker 3>business person or to have yourself surrounded by good business people.

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<v Speaker 3>Then to not being exploited to deals. The odds are

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<v Speaker 3>zero point zero zero zero one percent one at.

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<v Speaker 2>A billion, so they go Lebron James whip that out

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<v Speaker 2>in next dinner party and say that you really do

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<v Speaker 2>know who that is and that you know it's the

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<v Speaker 2>LA like it's not the Los Angeles like it. Learn

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<v Speaker 2>from my mistakes is the point of that segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the Lakers. That also works.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good it a feedback.

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