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Speaker 1: It is just after nine point thirty. Now we know

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Speaker 1: that the next round of Territory Tourism vouchers go live tonight.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of Territorians already jumping online to register and joining

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Speaker 1: me on the line to tell us a bit more

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Speaker 1: is the general manager of Tourism top End, Glenn Hingley.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Glenn.

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Speaker 2: Katie, Good morning, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Glenn. For those who have not yet been lucky enough

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Speaker 1: to get their hands on one of these vouchers in

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Speaker 1: the past, where do they need to go and what

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Speaker 1: do they need to do?

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Speaker 2: Territory vouchers dot com. So if you go to Tourism NT website,

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Speaker 2: that'll be the best one to get there. You can

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Speaker 2: remember that and then people will be able to from

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Speaker 2: there go follow the links. And I would suggest people

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Speaker 2: would do this well and truly before eight o'clock this evening,

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Speaker 2: so there's not a last minute panic. And for those

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Speaker 2: who are new to vouchers, this being round four, will

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Speaker 2: know that last time they sold out yeah and a

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, right, so people really need

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Speaker 1: to make sure that they're getting early. How important are

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Speaker 1: these vouchers to the tourism sector in terms of really

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Speaker 1: trying to get things moving, particularly over the wet season.

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Speaker 2: It's been an incredibly difficult year. A little couple of

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Speaker 2: rays of sunshine back in April May, we remember we

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Speaker 2: New South Walest went into lockdown so effectively since July

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Speaker 2: of our annual two point four billion dollars our customers

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Speaker 2: for tourism have been in lockdown ever since. So whilst

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Speaker 2: it feels busy at times around the top end, effectively

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Speaker 2: we've been fondly referring to those focus COVID refugees and

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Speaker 2: we're through that they could stay on, but they're here

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Speaker 2: in their caravans and there are vs and they're not

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Speaker 2: incredibly difficult time. It's we've been going back and forward

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Speaker 2: through the numbers it's about one point six billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: The territory economy is down because of it not having

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Speaker 2: our normal arrivals. And that's a lot of jobs, wow,

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Speaker 2: a lot of repayments to your peak businesses that are

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Speaker 2: mortgaged not only on their premises but on their vehicles

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Speaker 2: and their vessels. The amount of staff that that would employ.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, we know that every time we

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Speaker 2: per year to the local economy as well as giving

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Speaker 2: someone a job. But so that's it's a really it's

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Speaker 2: a real challenge, and so we're grateful when you.

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Speaker 1: Talk about that one point six billion dollars. Is that

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Speaker 1: over the July August September period, No, that's.

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Speaker 2: Our calendar year today. So I'm looking at that number

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Speaker 2: and how we do that, but understanding that normally, if

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Speaker 2: not for vouchers this year, it would have been a

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Speaker 2: much bigger number, would have been closer to over two

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Speaker 2: has been costing the territory economy upwards of seven point

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Speaker 2: but it's less than one day of the losses that

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Speaker 2: tourism has been suffering. And when I say tourism, the

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Speaker 2: territory economy has been suffering by people not being able

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Speaker 2: So you tourism helps the top end economy in more

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Speaker 1: My certainly does. And you know, as we've said obviously,

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Speaker 1: these tourism vouchers are critically important and they will give

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Speaker 1: percentage of vouchers that have been purchased but have not

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Speaker 1: they're not actually using them. Or are we finding that

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Speaker 1: all of that money does in the end get used

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Speaker 2: A great question and the answer is all of that

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Speaker 2: make a decision. They've got two weeks to make a

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Speaker 2: into the pool, so another voucher can be released to

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Speaker 2: So if dollar for a dollar for the two hundred

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Speaker 1: So what sorry you go?

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Speaker 2: Well, there was upwards of over twenty thousand people on

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Speaker 1: Glenn, let's hope that as many people as possible do

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Speaker 1: and the Center for National Resilience Glenn, how critical is

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Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, over twenty percent of our visitors were international,

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Speaker 2: a really critical path that we're looking for. We're looking

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Speaker 2: Recently we also met with the Federal Minister of Northern

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Speaker 2: But what happens after February next year? And we all

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Speaker 1: Gen we are fast running out of time. But I

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Speaker 2: I think the devil's in the detail, Katie. I think

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Speaker 2: a plane and go to Europe. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

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Speaker 1: It'd be game changer, it.

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Speaker 2: Would be absolutely But I think there's a there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of little things in this that. We certainly hope

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Speaker 2: that the territory government with the federal government can work

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Speaker 2: through because one of the keys in this is making

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Speaker 2: sure that all Territorians are vaccinated, because if that doesn't occur,

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Speaker 2: then we're just kicking the can down the road as

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Speaker 2: to when we truly open as a destination because it's

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Speaker 2: considered safe for all territorians.

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Speaker 1: Well, Glenn Hingley, Tourism top Ends, General Manager. It's always

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Speaker 1: good to speak with you. I really appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. And let's see how quickly those vouchers go

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Speaker 1: off tonight eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, don't forget territory vouchers and Territory vouchers dot NT,

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Speaker 2: dot gov, dot AU get online.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Good on you, Glenn, Thanks so much. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you again so