1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nas. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: We've spoken to Hugh Grant a few times in our career. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: He's a very he. 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't tolerate fools, which is where we feel. 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: To turn individual. 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: He's a bit prickly, isn't he. But through the years 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: I've come to admire that he hasn't changed for anybody. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: I've come to admire the Hugh Grant nature of him. Really. 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's been in battle with Murdoch Press for 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: many years now, after a defamation case that's gone on 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: for a long long time. 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: He says that they have hacked his home, his car, 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: his office. They were getting a whole lot of information 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: and he wondered, how are they doing this? And he 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: thinks it's because he's been hacked. And not only that, 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: he and Prince Harry and a number of others are 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: in a deformation case against Murdoch, claiming I think the 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: words blagging that they have through nefarious means gleaned medical 19 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: information about them and printed it. So it's been horrendous stuff. 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: And also, in a nice bit of self awareness that 21 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: a lot of celebrities don't have, Hugh admitted back in 22 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: the old days when the Vine Brown encounter happened why 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: he was. 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Newsworthy the Tymelroy started writing about me in when I 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: suddenly had some success, which was in nineteen ninety four, 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: after four weddings and a funeral in the wake of 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: my Divine Brown escapade. 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 4: I kind of knew the bit storm, so in a 29 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: way I think I thought, well, this is all part 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 4: of my punishment. But wherever you went, bang out came 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: a pap and he thought, how do they know where 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: I am? 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: So that's a different kettle. 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Of fish, that's right. And he has fought for twelve 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: years and he's been very vocal about this and it's 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: not easy to take on the Murdoch Press. He finally 37 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: settled yesterday. He didn't want to, but he said that 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: even if he won, he would have to pay the 39 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: legal fees of both sides, so that would is going 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: to come to ten ten million pounds and he figured 41 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: I had to pull out at that. I'll read you 42 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: what he wrote. He wrote this thread yesterday on Twitter. 43 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: For anyone who's been interested in my lawsuit against the Sun, 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: the news is that I've had to settle my claim 45 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: out of court before it gets to a trial. Newsgroup 46 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: are claiming they are entirely innocent of the things I 47 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: had accused the son of doing phone hacking, unlawful information gathering, 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: landline tapping, the burglary of my flat and office, the 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: bugging of my car, the illegal blagging of medical records, lies, perjury, 50 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: and the destruction of evidence. Rupert Murdock is spent over 51 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: one billion pounds in damages to claimants and in lawyer's fees, 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: settling over fifteen hundred claims. In this way, he seems 53 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: remarkably determined that there shouldn't be a trial of the facts. 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Murdock settlement money has a stink, and are refused to 55 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: let this be hush money. I've spent the best part 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: of twelve years fighting for a free press that does 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: not distort the truth, does not abuse ordinary members of 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: the public or hold elected MPs to ransom in pursuit 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: of newspaper baron's personal profit and political power. So this 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: money will be repurposed via groups like hacked Off, into 61 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: the general campaign to expose the worst excesses of our 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: oligarch owned press, as is common with entirely innocent people. 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: They are offering me in an enormous sum of money 64 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: to keep this matter out of court. I don't want 65 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: to accept this money or settle. I'd love to see 66 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: the allegations that they deny tested in court. But the 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: rules around civil litigation mean that if I proceed to 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: trial and the court awards me damages that are even 69 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: a penny lesson the settlement offer, I'd have to pay 70 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: the legal costs of both sides. My lawyers tell me 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: that's exactly what would most likely happen here. Ribert Murdock's 72 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: lawyers are very expensive, so even if every allegation is 73 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: proven in court, I would still be liable for something 74 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: approaching ten million pounds in costs. I'm afraid I'm shying 75 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: at that fence. And then he goes on to thank 76 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: his legal team, the whistleblowers who have helped him, and 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: the innocent, and there's everyday people who've supported him. I 78 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: have utmost respect for him. So here he is saying, 79 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm settling, but this won't be hush money. I still 80 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: believe these accusations, and I'm going to use this money 81 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: to help fund groups that are looking further into it. 82 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I guess look for a more reliable new source like X, 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: like X that's right, or social media,