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Speaker 1: Now the case was very different in Lingiari, the Bush

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Speaker 1: the line. Good morning and congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Marion, Good morning, Ka.

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Speaker 1: How are you yeah, really good. How are you feeling

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty pretty tied. That it's been you know since

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Speaker 1: Well, and also you know, as you know, I've got

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, and it's not always about chucking money at

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting, obviously you've had that swing toward you,

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Speaker 2: Look, and that's what people expect, Katie. You know, like

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Speaker 2: We need to work together to sit down and look at,

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Speaker 1: Mariam, what are your main priorities now as you continue

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Speaker 2: People still said to me Katie, they need to feel safe.

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Speaker 1: Marion, I know that, you know, when we talk about

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Speaker 2: Look, there's been you know, since last year when the

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Speaker 1: Morning, so we have literally just had confirmation as well.

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Speaker 1: Marion. I do want to ask you. I understand that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think it was Look, you know, for me, Katie, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Well, Marion, look, I know you're a tough woman. You

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a better standard Katie. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: violence is no has no place in our community. Well,

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Speaker 2: I we've got to deliver this term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, before I let you go, I know there

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Speaker 2: It was clear that those men that were not from

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Speaker 2: you know, everyone kept saying they were part of the

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Speaker 2: Exclusive Brethren. Now, you know, I know that they've come

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Speaker 2: and they don't think their members were part of that. Well,

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Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to find out where a lot of

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Speaker 2: where they were from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting, and you know why they were here.

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Speaker 1: Marian a few messages coming through. I just want to

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Speaker 1: read one out for you. It's from Tigs. Tigs from

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Speaker 1: the DO and she says Marian is a strong presence

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Speaker 1: in the bush communities, she hasn't done as much for

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Speaker 1: us in the northern rural area. I appreciate though, that

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Speaker 1: she's acknowledged this this morning on your show. I've been

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Speaker 1: very quick to criticize her in the past, but I acknowledge.

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Speaker 1: But the acknowledgment brings an opportunity to regain some good

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Speaker 1: will moving forward, says Tigs.

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Speaker 2: In the do absolutely, Katie, and look, I know that

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Speaker 2: I need to do better in the darn Roll area.

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Speaker 2: I have done a lot of work with Litchfield Council,

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Speaker 2: but I need to work and talk to people directly

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Speaker 2: like I've done it everywhere else. And you know, I've

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Speaker 2: a couple of people have contacted me either through messenger

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Speaker 2: or private message to me, and I've undertaken. When I

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Speaker 2: come up to the top end, I will contact them.

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Speaker 2: But I look forward to delivering for the darn rural

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Speaker 1: Marion Scrimjaw remember fore lingiari good to speak with you

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Speaker 1: this morning. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: You too, Katie, I always love talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Mane Sime, thank you. Good to catch up. See you