1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influences, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: That is so fatch. Thank you, welcome back to Outspoken. 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: Now it's a little bit of a flat day for 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: us because we are back to our full time jobs, 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: and Sophie, it gets even worse for you because apparently 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: your blonde hair is no longer cool. According to gen Zetters, well, 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: I actually think this could be the best thing for 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: the health of my hair and also for my bank account. 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Probably not good for people who are trying to tell 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: us apart because you're the only blonde one at the moment, Amy, 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: you are starting to go a little bit ombre. Yeah, 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: it's a little it's light brown. But Sophie, apparently, according 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: to TikTok As, you are choogy. So Amy. For those 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: who don't know what is choogy, we have discussed it 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: on the podcast with Yeah Well, a lot of people 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: were talking about the term mid last year because it 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: was made mainstream by TikTok, and it was actually created 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: by a twenty three year old girl in the US 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: called Gabby Rayson, and so she started using the term 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: around her college and then it just took off and 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: it spread like wildfire on TikTok. Sorry, all like I 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: think about is is not fetch, It's not gonna happen. Well, 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: this actually happened. I know it did, So just be warned. 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: If you're a millennial and you haven't heard of the 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: term chugy, you're gonna be pretty offended because the word 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: is normally aimed at us, so it's used to describe 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: someone who's trying too hard and is out of date. 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: So I don't think we're all trying too hard though. Well, 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: if you've got blonde hair, that is a lot of 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: effort to go to the hairdresser, have the foils or 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: the cap like that's probably four hours out of your 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: day every six weeks. It's pretty funny because I had 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: a look on TikTok at some of the things that 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: are considered choogy, and apparently neutri genus oil free cleansing 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: whites in pink grapefruit is something that gen Zas find 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: particular hill out of fashion. How bloody pacific is that? 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: I know? Also what the hell white like? So if 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: you use a different color, is that okay? I think 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: it's the pink grapefruit that they find a bit out 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: of fashion, And so is the Instagram caption we did 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: a thing. Oh, I do have to agree with that. 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I do find that caption veil. I see. I see 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: gen Zettas writing that though. Well, also they say that 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: raspberry flavored vodka, as well as being obsessed with the 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: office or friends is choogy. I'll piss off, do you 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: know what? Though? This is actually reminding me the other 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: day I was watching The Only Way Is Essex, but 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: like the third series when it was I think it 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: was about ten years ago, I feel like they're choogy. 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very choogy. Look. It's funny 55 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: because a lot of gen Zettas have defined ug boots 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: as being choogy. However, if you have the mid length 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: ug boots, they're apparently in fashion, and Gucci belts have 58 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: been labeled choogy. I can kind of see that. I 59 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: reckon it was about five or six years ago at 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: my old job, and literally all of the girls in 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: the office were trying to find fake Gucci belts to 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: pass off real ones. Look, are we really taking fashion 63 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: advice from people that consider crocs to be amazing? No, 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: apparently they've labeled them as chewgy as well. They said 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: they're out. Do you know what cracks me? So now 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: something that they deemed is cool they're now saying is 67 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: chugi Because obviously millennials have thought, fuck, I want to 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: be in fashion. I'm going to start wearing crocs like 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: the cool kids. Do you know what the thing is 70 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: a lot of people are actually saying that chogi isn't 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: just aimed at millennials. It can be used just as 72 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: a term for anything that's a bit naff. So basically, 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: we millennials had a term for this back in twenty ten, 74 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: and it was basic. So to translate chugi and millennial talks, 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: you're a basic bitch. Now, can we get into this 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: blonde hair, because I really want to know why it's 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: apparently so unfashionable all of a sudden, Well, it all 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: began when TikTok Has noticed that gen Z celebrities, including 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Gigi had Did and Hailey Bieber all opted to strip 80 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: back their blonde hair to opt for a more natural, 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: darker color, so it's been dubbed expensive brunette, and according 82 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: to jen Ze's Cool Light blondees a bit like yours, 83 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: Sophie are now out of fashion, but lighter brown with 84 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: caramel highlights, which I actually just got caramel highlights is 85 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: now apparently in See. I feel like you've only brought 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: this topic to the discussion because you've gone back to 87 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: caramel slash brown hair look. You can't argue with the 88 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: gen Zettters schedule. Well, I personally, as Kate said, I 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: don't care what people who wear the ugliest, wide, fat 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: legged jeans have to say about fashion or hair. So 91 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: you're just showing your age. But isn't it kind of 92 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: good that these gen Zettas are embracing their natural look? 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: But it's not natural. They're not No, yeah, they are 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: so Gigene Hailey have gone back to their natural hair color, 95 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: which has children. It's basically they've gone back to looking 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: more natural. However, it's really expensive to get the hair 97 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: that they have. Specifically, there's going to be so many 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: blondes who go and dye their hair brown and then 99 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: are going to completely regret it. Because it doesn't go 100 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: with their skin tone, and then they've wasted and damaged 101 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: the hair even further trying to go back to blonde. Okay, 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: these are going to be trends that are actually chuggy 103 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: from a fashion major. Okay, we're going to start with 104 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: an easy one. If you're still wearing skinny jeans and 105 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and millennials, I don't want to hear it. 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Just buy a pair of street leg jeans and tell 107 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: me how you feel. Former Bachelor contestant Bella Valerrez has 108 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: made an awkward slip up, accidentally sharing a screenshot of 109 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: her bank details to her Instagram story. Kay, can you 110 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: tell us what happened? Well, Bella swiftly deleted the screenshot, however, 111 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: not before someone took a screenshot of their own and 112 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: sent it to Instagram page influencer Updates. So the screenshot 113 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: in question shows an overview of Bella's bank account, which 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: features an everyday account and a savings account, So there 115 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: were mixed reactions when it came to the amounts in 116 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: those bank accounts. Bella had five hundred and sixty dollars 117 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: in her everyday account and then over ninety eight thousand 118 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: in her savings account. Were you guys surprised by the figures? 119 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: My initial gut reaction was Wow, that's a lot of 120 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: money to have in your savings account as an everyday person. 121 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: But then I thought, well, if she is this big 122 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: influencer living it up in Sydney, I kind of expected 123 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: her to have a little bit more. Yeah. Well, I 124 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: think so many people were interested in the amount, as 125 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: I feel like what influencers earn is often such a 126 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: big secret, and while we might get an insight into 127 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: their potential earnings when they're showing off all their designer 128 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: goods and flashy lifestyle, it is always hard to determine 129 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: what they're actually paid for and what they're and what 130 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: they're actually gifted. And as you said, so if I 131 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: suppose Bella has been in the spotlight for over a year, 132 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: she's got one hundred and five thousand followers, and she 133 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: was an influencer before going on The Bachelor, So I mean, 134 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: it's hard to judge because we don't know how much 135 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: she's saved compared to how much she spent. So it 136 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: would have been really interesting to see a screenshot of 137 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: the income actually coming in from jobs that's what I 138 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: would have really liked to see. I just wondered, does 139 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: she have her own house? Like, is that savings for 140 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: a house? And maybe that's because I'm looking for a house. 141 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: At the moment, I was quite envious. I mean I 142 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: was quite jealous because ninety eight thousand dollars in savings, 143 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: that is a very impressive amount for a twenty six 144 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: year old insane that though, some people did point out 145 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: that her savings didn't totally match up with the lifestyle 146 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: that she does like to portray. So for example, when 147 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: Bella was asked what her favorite meal of twenty twenty 148 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: one was, she shared an image of her eating cavia 149 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: from her wrist. I assume at Toddy's now there were 150 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: also a shot. That's a cavia shot. That's what they did. Yeah. Yeah. 151 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: It's funny though, because I feel like the people that 152 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: were being like, oh, that's not really that much money, 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: it does show their privilege at the end of the day, 154 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: because you've got to understand, she is twenty six years old, 155 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: and even if she is earning heaps of money, having 156 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: the ability to save ninety eight thousand, I think we 157 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: should congratulate her on that. Can I just ask so, 158 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: how did she accidentally share this screenshot to Instagram? How 159 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: does that happen? Like? Why are you screenshot in your 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: bank account? Because wehn't a lot of people as well 161 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: saying that they think that she purposely put it up 162 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: there to show how much money she has. And I 163 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: think that's why some people were saying, oh, wow, that's 164 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: not very much, because they assume she was trying to flex. 165 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, in what world is ninety eight thousand dollars 166 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: in savings not a lot? Well, that's h that being said, 167 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: we do live in Adelaide, where salaries are quite a 168 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: lot lower. No, But I mean, as you said, like, 169 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: if any standard twenty six year old, if you're saving 170 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: up to buy a house or a car or whatever, 171 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: if you have ninety eight thousand dollars in your account, 172 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: you're doing pretty damn well. Yeah. But as Kate said, 173 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: it's because of this image and stereotype of influencers earning 174 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: obscene amounts of money. I feel like people would have 175 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: been far more outraged though, if she had a million 176 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: dollars in a savings account. Do you guys think that 177 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: influencers are as rich as we think they are that's 178 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: a really good question, Kay, And I think it does 179 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: come down to the fact that there are different tiers 180 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: of influencers. Even though someone may have one hundred thousand followers, 181 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: their earning capacity isn't as great as someone like Tammy Hembro, 182 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: who has several million followers. And I think that an 183 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: indication of their wealth usually comes down to the assets 184 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: they have that can't be obtained for free or be gifted. 185 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: So things like designer bags can often be sort of 186 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors because they can be gifted. For example, 187 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: we saw over the Christmas break that jar Day Tunci 188 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: had a partnership with Dior, so it looks like she's 189 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: always got the best designer gear, but she hasn't actually 190 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: paid for that gear. It's just been gifted to her. 191 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: And I do remember Tally Smythe talking a lot a 192 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: few years ago about how she actually doesn't have that 193 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: much money in savings, but she does live this lavish 194 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: life on Instagram. Yeah. The thing for me is I 195 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: always measure influencers wealth on whether they have a house. 196 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: And that's probably pretty old school because I feel like 197 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of them would be getting into investing on 198 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: the stock market but I'm always so shocked when influencers 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: are renting these massive palaces, and I'm thinking that is 200 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: the biggest waste of money. I also think we need 201 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: to consider the fact that a lot of young influencers 202 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: may not be educated on finance and maybe blowing on 203 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: a huge range of things despite the fact that they're being 204 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: paid an obscene amount of money. We saw that when 205 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Deessica Power came out and she showed everybody what she 206 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: was earning each month and also what she was spending, 207 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: and it was a large amount of money that she 208 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: was spending. But a lot of people were like, well, 209 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: good on you. You're earning so much, you spend it 210 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: on whatever you want to. Yeah. But that being said, 211 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: what sort of long longevity does that have if suddenly 212 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: only fans or her influencing career is no longer viable. 213 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: Are you telling me your mom shares your authhole? Did 214 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: you know this? Ashole? Wednesday, following Lily Brown's soft launch 215 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: of her new boyfriend, it super Sluice's belief they have 216 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: uncovered his identity, Kate, can you tell us more? Well? 217 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Earlier this month, Lily teased her followers with a photo 218 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: of her boyfriend from the back. Now, the only distinguishable 219 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: feature was a Valenciaga T shirt. Of course, I feel 220 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: like influencers have to date people who can also afford 221 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: designer brands. So we put a little call out on 222 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: our Instagram to see if anyone knew who he was, 223 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: and one name kept continuously popping up, which was Manu 224 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Taylor Green, who goes by the Instagram handle Manu Taylor. 225 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: Now I did my own little stalking session. It all 226 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: checks out because he does, in fact own a Valenciaga 227 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: T shirt. So a couple of weeks ago, he also 228 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: posted he was at the same hotel as Lily, but 229 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: they did tag each other. Of course. Now when you 230 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: look at his followers, Lily follows him alongside her friends 231 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Louis Dolman, Michael Finch, and Shane Grimman's boyfriend Jacob Tompkins. 232 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: So from my stalking session on Instagram, I discovered that 233 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: Menu has a staffy. He also has a boat that 234 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: he loves to go fishing out on. It's not a 235 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: Malibu like Sarah's days, but it still did look pretty impressive. 236 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: He also has a baby niece who he loves posting 237 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: pictures with. I almost was like, is this his baby? 238 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: But I feel like it's one of those hooks to 239 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: show girls that he's like a nice guy and obviously 240 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: Lily like everyone on Tinder who puts up a photo 241 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: with a baby and it's like, this is my niece. Yeah, 242 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: exactly right. So, judging from Instagram, Minu was in a 243 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: four year relationship, which he last posted about in October 244 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Interestingly, I did notice that Michael Finch still 245 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: follows Menu's ex girlfriend, which might make things a little 246 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: bit awkward. I do wonder when we are going to 247 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: see the hard launch of him. But do you guys 248 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: think it could just be a friend of Lily Brown? 249 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: Does it necessarily her boyfriend? O way? I mean, I 250 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: actually think it's good that she tries to keep her 251 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: partners off social media. Do you know what I think? Though, 252 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: If you're going to keep them off social media, why 253 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: do the little soft launch of them and you know, 254 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: include the photo of their arm and the back of them, Like, 255 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: what's the point? It just makes people want to know 256 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: even more who they are. Fields engagement? I think, yeah, 257 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: it fields engagement. But also I suppose when you're dating 258 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: someone it's kind of nice to be acknowledged on their 259 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: social media account. Even if it's not showing exactly who 260 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: you are, it's kind of putting out the message that 261 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: she isn't single anymore. What's up, guys, Welcome back to 262 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: my channel and one of the most highly requested, slash demanded, anticipated, 263 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: slash demanded, demo, demand, demanded many. So this is obviously 264 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: our baby name reveal. Sarah's Day has released a Spotify 265 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: playlist seemingly revealing her unborn baby's initials. The baby name 266 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: Clue was dropped as a self proclaimed holistic health princess 267 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: is embroiled in yet another controversy. So before we get 268 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: into it, what's the latest on Setarah's controversial fitness plan. Well, 269 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: Sarah is yet to publicly comment on the backlash surrounding 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: her health and fitness plan after she was accused of 271 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: marketing it towards people with an eating disorder or those 272 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: likely to develop one. So for those who missed Friday's episode, 273 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: we discussed the topic in depth on there, which you 274 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: can listen to after this episode. Now, Sarah is yet 275 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: to remove the offending real in question, while negative comments 276 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: mount up. Yeah, so if you cast your mind back 277 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: to Sarah's first pregnancy with Fox, Sarah would use baby 278 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: name clues as clickbait to get more views on her vlogs, 279 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: and Sarah has really treated her second pregnancy slightly differently 280 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: since announcing that her second baby has an undisclosed health issue, 281 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: and while she was originally accused of clickbaiting her son's 282 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: health issues, since that announcement, she has been pretty modest 283 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to sharing details about her baby. However, 284 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: distracting her followers with exciting life news is a common 285 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: strategy for Sarah when she is under fire, so some 286 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: people believe that she may have dropped this clue to 287 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: check change the conversation. I feel like we need to 288 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: get into this playlist, So, Kate, how did people discover it? Well, 289 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't too difficult for Sarah's fans to find it, 290 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: considering she did share it to her personal Spotify account 291 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: called Sarah dot Stevenson ninety two that she has consistently 292 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: promoted her cross her channels for years. So her user 293 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: name for those who don't know, is her full name 294 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: and her birth year, with the account amassing twenty nine thy, 295 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty six followers now, Sarah has uploaded 296 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: a total of eighteen playlists to her account, including one 297 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: that she has promoted in the past, including Sase Sounds 298 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: as well as Sez Christmas. Other playlists include Sez Labor, 299 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: Sarah and Kurt's Wedding Playlist, and SEZ's Worship Warriors, So 300 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: it's safe to say that this is her playlist now. 301 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: The newly created playlist is called MKT and has three 302 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: songs on it, including Miracle Love by Matt Corby and 303 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Together by Ziggy Alberts. And Now, as someone who closely 304 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: follows Sarah and Kurtz account, I know that Kurt loves 305 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: Ziggy Alberts, Fox loves Ziggy Albert, so I think another 306 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: green light that this is definitely Sarah and Kirk's playlist, 307 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: so they should have called it, says he, clickbaiting the 308 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: name of the playlist. Yeah. Now, when we take a 309 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: look at the initials MKT, obviously the T is going 310 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: to stand for Tills, which will be the boy's surname, 311 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: and which is Sarah's married name. However, many people are 312 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: trying to guess the first and middle name. So my 313 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: first thought with the middle name is surely at Sarah's 314 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: husband's name Kurt or Curtis. However, I really did enjoy 315 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: a few of our members' suggestions. In our Facebook group, 316 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: someone said the middle name could be Cove with a 317 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: K to follow the theme of Fox's middle name, which 318 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: is ocean. That is a good suggestion. I actually think 319 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: you're right. Tho, Okay, I feel like it might be 320 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Kurt or Curtis. Maybe they're going heaps old school and 321 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: traditional with this new name to just throw everyone off. Now, 322 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: Madeline in our Facebook group wrote so curious as to 323 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: how she's going to pick a name that is equal 324 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: parts sky daddy and new age holistic. Who will I'm 325 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: just surprised none of the brandings have come in, Like 326 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm surprised in not calling the kids sonny or well, 327 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: it's funny if you say that, it's funny you say that. 328 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: Because with the first name being m some people were 329 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: joking that maybe it's going to be called Malibu after boat. 330 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: Someone also suggested Mink to fit in with Fox. However, 331 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: I think the people that we're talking about biblical names 332 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: have got it right. So there's a few guesses, which 333 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: were Matthew, Meeka, Moses, or Memphirs. Now, someone did joke 334 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: that maybe they're going to call their kid Messiah. Fortunately 335 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: for their unborn child, that is illegal in Australia. So 336 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: I feel like Tia in our Facebook group deserves an 337 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: award because she has spotted this amazing clue in Sarah's 338 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Instagram story. So this week, the story showed Sarah's son 339 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: Fox cuddling her pregnant stomach and he potentially says the 340 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: baby's name. Let's throw to the audio, Oh thank you, 341 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: thank you, that's your baby. Doesn't really, I don't know, 342 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem as cool as Fox Ocean tills. I mean, 343 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just doesn't sound as instagrammable to me. 344 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: But as you say, Kat, they are taking a very 345 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: different approach to this pregnancy. I also noticed talking about 346 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: the sort of engagement levels that Sarah tries to drum 347 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: up on her Instagram during pregnancies. She did put up 348 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: a photo the other day saying, everyone, guess when I'll 349 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: give birth? Like what week am I going to go 350 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: into labor? And I was just thinking, I know this 351 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: is her job, but can you imagine if one of 352 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: your friends who was pregnant put up this question to 353 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: their followers. It's just bizarre, but it's funny you say 354 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: that because they're like I went to a baby shower 355 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and they had a game 356 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: where you're meant to guess the due date. So I 357 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: feel like it is something that people do. He literally 358 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: said to me. I was like, I said to him, 359 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: I was like, you did give a fuck to you guys? 360 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Not really, I never said that. Do you remember? No, 361 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I'll tell you about my Sorry about the 362 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: yelling guys. Amid the massive omicron waves sweep in the country, 363 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: the Zep sisters have decided to weigh in with some 364 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: advice for people suffering from what they're calling the flu amy. 365 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Can you tell us what the advice is so far 366 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: so we can avoid it, please? Well, it is quite 367 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: ironic that the Zep sisters are now commenting on how 368 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: to recover from COVID, considering their controversial alleged anti vax stance. However, 369 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: COVID doesn't discriminate even if you don't believe it exists, 370 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: and it appears Amy Zep is recovering from coronavirus. So 371 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: on the fourth of January, she shared a screenshot from 372 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: her note section of her iPhone, which was entitled my 373 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: flu symptoms. So her symptoms included fever, body aches, headache, 374 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: and mild ear and throat pain. She added in brackets 375 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: not sure if I have COVID or not doing a 376 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: rapid test this avo she captured the post I like 377 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: seeing what other people are experiencing, so thought i'd share mine. 378 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: Amy also shared a list of things she's doing to 379 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: make her feel better. So on January fifth, she posted 380 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: a video of herself in a dressing gown in bed 381 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: and wrote, Hey guys, so today is day three of 382 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: my sickness, and I think I feel worse than yesterday 383 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: to be honest, so Amy is yet to share the 384 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: results of her rat test now. Meanwhile, Kate Zep, who 385 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: has been the most vocal of the ZEP sisters, decided 386 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: to share some advice for those feeling sick now, just 387 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: to put into perspective. In the past, Kate has called 388 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: people sheep and also said that the vaccine is poison, 389 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: so I would not be taking any of these pointers 390 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: from her now. Her tips included having ginger shots every day, 391 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: getting out in the sun for as long as you can, 392 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: cold showers or baths if you have the sweats, to 393 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: eat vegetables and comforting food like soup, to drink lots 394 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: of water, eat oranges or food with vitamin C. To 395 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: isolate yourself so friends and family don't get it, and 396 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: to rest up. What about getting the vaccine or a booster? Yeah, exactly, 397 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: can I point out in terms of that ginger shots 398 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: every day? She did suggest to make your own or 399 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: go to Top Juice for four dollars. Now, if you 400 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: have COVID, I would highly suggest you don't go out 401 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: of the house to get your own juice from Top Juice. 402 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Do these girls realize how embarrassing this is, that they've 403 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: clearly caught COVID and now they're just calling it a sickness. Well, 404 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: later that week, Amy continued to update her Instagram followers 405 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: on her symptoms, and she wrote, day four and have 406 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: the worst headache I've ever had in my whole life. 407 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: So it seems like Kate Zepp was sick of her 408 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: sister sharing her symptoms, so she took to her insta 409 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: story and wrote, if you want to get unfollowed today, 410 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: keep telling everyone that cares about your flu symptoms. Now, 411 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: Kloe Zepp has also given her followers advice on recovering 412 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: from this random illness that seems to be circulating Measland 413 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: at the moment. This is what she said on her 414 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: insta story on Saturday, licorice root tea. If you're sick, 415 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: get onto the licorice root It's really good. I'm not sick, 416 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: but I'm just like trying to prevent now. The Zepps 417 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: aren't the only controversial influences handing out interesting health advice 418 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: during this stage of the pandemic, so Ash Bienes wrote 419 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: in the comments section of her Instagram do whatever feels 420 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: right for you. I've had twelve people in my life 421 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: who were double and super sick though, so maybe it's 422 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: more about how our bodies respond to the virus and 423 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: our past health and how it can handle a virus. 424 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: Who knows, but take care of you. Oh my god. 425 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: I hate the fact that she goes, Oh, who knows. 426 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: This might not be the case, but I'm putting it 427 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: out to any very impressionable audience. Are we surprised that 428 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: ash Binds is jumping in with such awful advice? Definitely 429 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: not well. On another post on her account, someone wrote 430 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: to Ashi just tested positive for COVID and I'm terrified. 431 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: Your messages always make me feel better, to which Ash responded, 432 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: oh are you taking those vitamins? In my caption, rest up, 433 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: take care of yourself and trust in your body. I 434 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: love that someone actually responded to Ash saying if only 435 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: those six million people who have died took their vitamins. 436 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: But also, how are people supposed to feel when their 437 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: body apparently doesn't match up? And look after yourself. There 438 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: have been so many cases of very healthy people who 439 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: have been struck down with severe COVID. Yeah, it's such 440 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: bullshit and I'm just so sick of these influences giving 441 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: out health advice, particularly when they have been and the vaccine. 442 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: It's like, stop jumping on this bandwagon because everyone's talking 443 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: about COVID, and that's something that pisces me off. It 444 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: seems like suddenly COVID is cool for the influencers to 445 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: talk about. So it's quite funny that Amy wants to 446 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: create engagement in a post through COVID without actually saying 447 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: that she has COVID. To be honest, I'm surprised she's 448 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: even talking about it because it just makes her and 449 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: her family look really ridiculous. Yeah, well, I think It's 450 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: really an interesting time for Queensland influencers because just like 451 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: here in South Australia, Queensland is experiencing a big way 452 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: for the first time, and it means people like the 453 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: zep's are actually experiencing firsthand that this virus is real. 454 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: So it seems like they're trying to keep up and 455 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: respond to their audience in a way that's going to 456 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: get them engagement, but then also make them not look well. 457 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: It's pretty hard to not make them look stupid. But 458 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, I went to fart and instead shit myself. 459 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Are you joking? No, I'm not. And because of my 460 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: high heart rate, the school nurse spent three hours calming 461 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: me down before I went back into an empty examle 462 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: to finish pennzime late apologies. Actually, did I think I 463 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: might have failed? Neil, I was a bit distracted. Former 464 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: Missus Universe Australia Olivia Rogers has made headlines in The 465 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: New York Post after revealing the unusual but hilarious COVID 466 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: nineteen symptoms she experienced. Amy Before we get into this 467 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: unusual symptom, can you tell us a little bit more 468 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: about Olivia contracting COVID yeah. Well, it's believed that Olivia 469 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: caught COVID in South Australia after she spent Christmas with 470 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: her family here and she was alerted that she was 471 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: a close contact, so she headed back home to Melbourne 472 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: to isolate with her partner Justin. So soon after, Justin 473 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: tested positive to COVID on a rapid test while Olivia 474 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: tested negative. So Olivia then went to get a PCR 475 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: test and due to the long wait, found out days 476 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: later she was in fact positive too. Now, Olivia was 477 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: really great at documenting the process. She shared a diary 478 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: that she kept as symptoms, which she listed on a 479 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: day to day basis. Now, some of the more common 480 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: symptoms that Olivia experienced included red eyes, headache, fatigue, joint pain, 481 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: sore throat, dizziness, vomiting, running nose, and a sore neck. However, 482 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: the symptom that is attracting worldwide media attention at the 483 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: moment is the fact that she couldn't stop burping. Now, 484 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: Olivia wrote to her Instagram followers, I have had the 485 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: most random but kind of funny symptom. I can't stop burping. 486 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: And I googled it and apparently it's part of the 487 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: gastro intestinal symptoms of COVID not that common though, Has 488 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: anyone else had this with COVID? Olivia then shared a 489 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: screenshot of a COVID nineteen fact sheet which showed that 490 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: belching was a less common symptom of the virus. That's 491 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: pretty funny because, as you mentioned earlier, Amy, it did 492 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: take Olivia a number of days to get her positive 493 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: result confirmed. So once she did get the result through, 494 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: she wrote, results are in good to know my consistent 495 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: burping wasn't just me being a bit feral. I don't 496 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: understand why didn't she just take some ginger shots and 497 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: some licorice root like as that suggested, Yeah, that could 498 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: have helped with the burping. What It's funny though, because 499 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Maddie Jay was saying he experienced farting, so yeah, maybe 500 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: it really does upset your gut. And I suppose the 501 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: thing is that Olivia has clearly got so much attention 502 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: from the US because it's quite amusing for someone that 503 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: attractive and a Miss Universe contestant to actually admit to burping, 504 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, actually doing something human. It's kind of like 505 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: the whole philosophy from probably the nineties where it was like, 506 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: women don't pool or fart. I actually feel a bit 507 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: sorry for Olivia because I feel like it's quite embarrassing 508 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: the fact that they keep going on about it. It 509 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: was pretty funny because Olivia did screenshot a few of 510 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: these articles, in particular the one from the New York Post, 511 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: and then shared a subsequent photo of her with her 512 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: hand to her head in sort of disbelief and embarrassment 513 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: that it had got so much attention. It seems like 514 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: one of those things that seem like a good idea 515 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: to share in the moment, you know, when you've got 516 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: a fever in your sweating, think, oh yeah, that I'm 517 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: burping heaps, and then when you see in print, you're like, fuck, 518 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: good honor for sharing it. But I think it's because 519 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: some of the instagram as, like the influencers, they actually 520 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: feel like their followers are family and friends, so they 521 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: don't actually expect it to get picked up by the 522 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: global press. I wonder how many people now are gonna 523 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: be mindful of whether they are burping now, I mean growl. 524 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: When Big Brother mentioned gruel, I mean, I've never seen 525 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: gruel in my life. I thought it was made up 526 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: for Oliver twist film. Rumors have been flying that former 527 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: Bachelor runner up Brittany Hockley and tennis player boyfriend Jordan 528 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Thompson have called it quits. So, Kate, before we get 529 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: into it, can you first explain for those who might 530 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: not know who britt and Jordan are. So. Brittany Hockley 531 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: is host of hugely successful podcast Life Uncut and As 532 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: You Said, Amy. She was also the runner up on 533 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: the Honey Badgers series of The Bachelor. So Jordan Thompson 534 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: is an Australian pro tennis player who's currently ranked seventy 535 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: five in the world. Now. Brittan Jordan first met on 536 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: dating app Raya at the start of twenty twenty one, 537 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: and they hard launched their relationship in early February when 538 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: Britch had a photo of the couple and wrote and 539 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: that's me, game, set, match, love, or however it goes. 540 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: So everyone was so ecstatic for britt because she had 541 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: shared on her podcast that she'd been seeing for ten 542 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: years now Britain Jordan dated for four months before he 543 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: jetted off to play tennis overseas. Now brit was granted 544 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: an exemption to travel overseas back in May to join 545 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: her tennis player boyfriend on the circuit as she assisted 546 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: on the road with tournament logistics. Now in October, followers 547 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: started speculating that perhaps things were over between Britt and 548 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: Jordan when she returned home to Australia by herself. So 549 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: after three months overseas on the tennis circuit, Britt returned 550 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: home whilst Jordan continued to play in tournaments overseas. Now, 551 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: speculation was growing further over a split because Jordan wasn't 552 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: by her side during the Australian Podcast Awards at the 553 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: start of December. Now, in mid December, Britt actually came 554 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: out and confirmed to The Daily Mail that her relationship 555 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: with Jordan was still going strong despite the time apart. 556 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: She said, that's long distance for you. We're definitely still together. 557 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: In mid December, she then shared a selfie of her 558 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: and Jordan looking very happy together with the beach in 559 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: the background, saying home now. Despite Britt shooting down the 560 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: rumors that the pair were in fact still together, the 561 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: rumors continued to follow the couple around when Jordan appeared 562 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: absent from BRIT's Christmas Day and also her New Year's celebrations, 563 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: so Brit spent New Years with actor Rebel Wilson at 564 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: an incredible mansion on Sydney Harbor where Rebel had been staying, 565 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: and the pair shared lots about New Years across their 566 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: social media, with brit captioning a photo of them, Isn't 567 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: this romantic? Sydney does it best? Now? Can I just 568 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: point out that these rumors had been flying despite the 569 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: fact that Britt and Jordan were snapped by paparazzi on 570 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: December thirtieth playing tennis alongside Rebel and her rumored new 571 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: love interest, Matt Reid. Now, it is believed that Britt 572 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: introduced Rebel and Matt back in August, when they first 573 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: were seen together in a photo posing alongside Brit on 574 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: Center Court at the US Open. And for those who 575 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: don't know, Matt Reid is a thirty one year old 576 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Australian tennis player. Do you know what I think it is? 577 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone places such great importance on people's 578 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: Instagram accounts and whether they share photo and Insta stories 579 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: of their boyfriend. And I remember listening to an episode 580 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: that Britt did with Jordan, and it seems like he's 581 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: not really into Instagram as much as maybe she has. 582 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 1: To be for her career. Well, I feel like she 583 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: has also been slammed by a lot of listeners and 584 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: followers who unfairly say that she's showing off about having 585 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: a boyfriend. So it's kind of like, you're damned if 586 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: you do, you're damned if you don't. I know, I 587 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: feel really sorry for Brick because I feel like since 588 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: she did get the boyfriend, she has been copying it 589 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: a bit, and to me, she just seems so genuinely 590 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: nice and it does annoy me that I feel like 591 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: it's a bit of the tall Poppy syndrome going on, 592 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: and I feel like people are wanting to read into 593 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: the rumors that she's not with Jordan, maybe to suit 594 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: their own interests. Well. She also squashed the rumors even 595 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: further last week because she shared a photo of Jordan 596 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: training for the OZ Open. So I'm sure we will 597 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: be seeing her in the crowd at the Open. And 598 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: I am so excited that they're still together because I 599 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: just think they are so cute together. I like them 600 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: together too. I also wonder because Britt was sharing so 601 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: many Insta stories with Rebel Wilson, and she was also 602 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: sharing instance stories with her hot friend that's apparently her dentist. 603 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of that content normally people 604 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: share it when they've had a break up, because she 605 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: looked like she was having such an amazing time, like 606 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: she was at the beach, she's out parting with a 607 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: movie star. Do you think that might have added feel 608 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: to the fire. I definitely thought she was dropping a 609 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: few clues that maybe things weren't great between her and Jordan, because, 610 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: as you said, a lot of people do post really 611 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: great photos of themselves out having fun, and that's exactly 612 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: what she was doing. But it does seem to be 613 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: that tennis players are having to abide by strict guidelines. 614 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: We won't even go into that Djokovic scandal, but it 615 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: seems like they're having to undergo strict quarantine processes to 616 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: compete in the Australian Open. So it does really make sense. 617 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: The thing that didn't sit right with me, though, was 618 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people making comments like where's Jordan, 619 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and she didn't actually not hit those 620 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: comments on the head and said we're still together. Well, 621 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe because she had confirmed at the start of December 622 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: that they were in fact together, she didn't feel like 623 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: she had to comment on it any further. I think 624 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: she's just been having so much fun with Rebel Wilson 625 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: she hasn't actually been reading her comments because I am 626 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: actually very envious of their friendship. They look gad they're 627 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: having the best time. Well, I think that's all we've 628 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: got time for today. Thank you so much for joining 629 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: us for another episode of Outspoken. If you have enjoyed it, 630 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple 631 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: Podcasts or Spotify and make sure to leave us a 632 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: five star rating and review, And don't forget to follow 633 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: us on Instagram and TikTok. 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