1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: What do you spread on your toast? 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Is it avo, is it one hundred percent butter? Or 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: is it a healthy margarine spread? On today's episode of 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: The Nutrition Couch, we deep dive into spreads and take 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: a closer look at what's really in them and what 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: the best choices are nutritionally. 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm liamne Wood and. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: I'm Cuzy Burrow, and together we bring you The Nutrition Couch, 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: the weekly podcast that keeps you up to date on 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 3: everything that you need to know in the world of 11 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: nutrition and health, as well as spreads. 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: Today we have some new information on prunes and bone health. 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: We also have some tuna few to try in the supermarkets, 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: and our listener question is all about colon. 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Cleanses and if we need them. 16 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: But to kick us off today, Susie, we are chatting 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: all things spreads and margarines. 18 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: I'm going to pass over to you. 19 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: What is your take on margarine's butter spreads? What do 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: you put on your toast routinely? 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 4: Well, we're having a conversation off air about this and 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: I said to you, I actually don't use a whole 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: lot because I don't have toasts routinely naturally like most people. 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: I probably prefer butter. 25 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 4: But the issue I have is that if I suddenly 26 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 4: decided to have an egg on toast with vegemite, which 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: would be where I'd enjoy some butter, I don't have any, 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 4: and so I end up using I've got a back 29 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: up kind of nuttlex light I might use for the 30 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: boy's toast occasionally, but I'm like you, I don't use 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 4: a whole lot. But the reason I wanted to talk 32 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 4: about it today was that I was watching your Instagram, 33 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: because that's what I do in my spare time. I 34 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: just stalk your content, and you had posted about olive 35 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: oil spreads being a little bit misleading, I think because 36 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: they had a relatively low percentage of olive oil. And 37 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: it just reminded me to have a discussion because I 38 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: do probably need to ask clients about what spreads they 39 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: use a little bit more because it can add up. 40 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: And if we talk theoretically about what room there is 41 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: for added fat in the diet, because today when we 42 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: talk about spreads, we're talking about butter and margarine. We're 43 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: not talking about nut butters or sort of they're in 44 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: a separate section. Let's just keep it for sort of 45 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: toast toppers, and indeed, I'll have clients who might have 46 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: several lots of butter through the day. And when you 47 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: sort of hone down nutritionally into how much added fat 48 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 4: we need, the average adult only needs about sixty eighty 49 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: grams of fat per day. And by the time you 50 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: keep in mind that's got to include oily fish, nuts 51 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: and seeds, cooking oil, there's not much left for extras. 52 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: So in general, for most people, you don't need to 53 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: be adding extra butter and margarine into your diet. 54 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: It's not a. 55 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: Nutrition and nutrient that you need. It's generally just adding 56 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: extra fat. And certainly you're a million times better to 57 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: do plain vegimi at one hundred percent nutspread or even 58 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: avo on a toast nutritionally rather than any kind of 59 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: process spreads, whether it's butter or margarine. But they are 60 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 4: a staple grocery item. Most people will have a spread 61 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: in their fridge, whether they're doing sandwiches for the kids, 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: whether it is because you enjoy toasting the morning. So 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: I think it is worth a discussion on what are 64 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: the better types. So as a global statement, ly, and 65 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: when you go there's about I've just had a quick 66 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: scan on the woolies online. There's about forty or fifty 67 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: different ones. It's not small, and in general ninety percent 68 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: of them are blended vegetable oils. One is not overly 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: healthier than the other. Now, the most misleading aspect for 70 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 4: me is that on many it's got olive oil written. 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 4: But when you turn it over and have a close look, 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: and those labels are tiny, so take your glasses. At 73 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: most it's about nineteen percent olive oil, and most of 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: it's blended vegetable oil, and nutritionally, blended vegetable oils do 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 4: not offer anything positively in the diet. If you saw 76 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: them being made, they're like a gray kind of sludgy oil. 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: They then make them solid and add extra vitamins and 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: colors to give it the bright yellow color, but that's 79 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: certainly not what they look like. They're one of the 80 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: most heavily processed ingredients or products in supermarket and they 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: don't add anything positive nutritionally. Now, for example, the one 82 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: I choose, I choose a light variety because I think 83 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: it's only about forty percent fat, so it's a lower option. 84 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: But it's not to say it's good, and I do 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: use it sparingly, and it's not something I proactively ad 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: or use in anything else other than maybe a bit 87 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: of a spread on a toast occasionally. Now, when you 88 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: look at butter, there is only one spreadable butter that 89 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: is one hundred percent butter, and that is Mainland. So 90 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 4: if you are committed to whole food eating and nutrition, 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: and I'm happy to clude a little bit of butter. 92 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 4: And I remember Raismary Stanton always saying she's still alive 93 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: and well. But she was sort of the guru nutritionist 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: of the seventies and eighties, and she always said that 95 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: she refused to use margarine and she would enjoy her 96 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: piece of toast each day with full butter. And I 97 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: think that from a whole food perspective, there's nothing wrong 98 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: with including a teaspoon, you know, really thin in the diet. 99 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: Each day. 100 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 4: You're adding a bit of saturated fat but not much else, 101 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: and it certainly won't hurt you. But if you are 102 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: buying lurpack and you think it's butter, you're being misled 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: because Lurpac is also a blend. There's some butter, but 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: there's also plenty of vegetable oil, which is why it's 105 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: easy to spread so buying Lurpac doesn't guarantee you getting butter. 106 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: Mainland is the only spreadable butter that is one hundred 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: percent cream and butter. You're committed to butter, your best 108 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: to spend on that, and it is naturally leand more 109 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: expensive because it's one hundred percent butter. Now, the other 110 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: misleading thing out there, well not misleading, but controversial, I guess, 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: is that there's several cholesterol lowering margarines on the market, 112 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: and plant sterols, a molecule very similar in shape to cholesterol, 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: and as such, when you consume two to three grams 114 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: of it per day, has been shown to clinically reduce 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: cholesterol by as much as ten percent. As a dietitian, 116 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: I have never been comfortable recommending people add more process 117 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: vegetable oil to the diet to get a ten percent 118 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: reduction in cholesterol, because that's quite a lot. You've got 119 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: to have I think two or three serves of the 120 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: margarine a day, which is a lot. That means you're 121 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: adding it to several pieces of bread fat you wouldn't 122 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: otherwise add in. I can get ten percent reduction in 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: cholesterol using oats, using whole grains using nuts and seeds, 124 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: using more salmon, I don't need to add more process 125 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: vegetable oil. But I think it's misleading because there's a 126 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: lot of them out there, and obviously people do pick 127 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 4: them up because they think it's good for them because 128 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 4: it lowers cholesterol. But it won't work unless you have 129 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 4: the set doses, and you can get plant sterols in milk, 130 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: so use those. That's a much smarter way of doing it. 131 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: So you know, I think that the preference you have 132 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: for your spread is personal. If you like to include 133 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: a bit of butter, absolutely, but make sure you're getting 134 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: butter and not a blend, which you will still be 135 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: getting if it's called buttery spread or low pack blend. Again, 136 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 4: not one hundred percent butter. 137 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's same there with you. 138 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: I've never really recommended those plants style or margarines because 139 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: a you're adding in more process vegtable oils, but be 140 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: you also to get two to three grams of plant steryl. 141 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: The dose is like over a tablespoon a day. I'm 142 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: not going to actively add in more than a tablespoon 143 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: of margarine into my client's diet because most of my 144 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: clients with high cholesterol are actively trying to lose weight. 145 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 1: Margarine is not filling. 146 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: I'm not going to actively add in more than a 147 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: tablespoon into their diet. It has to be daily and 148 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: you have to have that higher amount to get the 149 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: benefits of the plant styles. If you're just using a 150 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: really thin spread, you're not getting the full benefits. It 151 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: has to be more than that tablespoon to actively get 152 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: in that two to three gram So I'm like you, 153 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: I don't really recommend it. And what really spurred me 154 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: to do that video was for many years we had 155 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: olive oil. You know, growing up as a kid, I 156 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: have olive oil spread in my fridge. It was just 157 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: what my mum bought. She she just thought it was 158 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: the healthiest spread. And then it wasn't until only a 159 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: few years ago, really when Mia was born, because I 160 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: did never really use magarine so well, all through my twenties, 161 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 2: even my early thirties, I had an olive oil spread 162 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: in the fridge. I think I've even said very early 163 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: in on the podcast, I used olive oil spread. 164 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: That's what I've always used. 165 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: And then one day I kind of went, you know what, 166 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to read the ingredients just because I think 167 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: with Mia and all of her nut allergies, like, I'm 168 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: really hyper into reading the ingredient label. It's not that 169 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: I don't read them, but sometimes when I'm busy, I 170 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: just grab stuff. But now with her allergies, I need 171 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: to make sure that nothing even has, you know, traces 172 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: of nuts and that sort of thing. And so I 173 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: was reading the ingredients and I was thinking, oh, my goodness, 174 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: like this olive oil spread's only got seventeen to nineteen 175 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: percent olive oil. It's not even extra virgin olive oil. 176 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: It's just olive oil, so you're not getting the full 177 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: anti inflammatory benefits. And the rest of it is basically 178 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: made up of sixty seventy percent blended begetable oils. So 179 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: I was like, this is a kind of a bit 180 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: of a con. I was like, I'm buying this thinking 181 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: that it's a better option, but it's not. And so 182 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: in the last few years, we've swapped a mainland butter. 183 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: Now is it a spreadable butter? Maybe maybe not. It 184 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: is quite hard. But we don't really eat a lot 185 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: of bread in my household. The girls eat a lot 186 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: of toast, but we don't really eat bread. And I 187 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: think it's because they're only still quite small, Like I've 188 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: got a two year old and a one year old. 189 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: They're quite small and just bread. From a chewing perspective, 190 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: it can get a bit gluggy. It's a little bit 191 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: of a choking risk when they're really little, and so 192 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: we always do toasted. I've always just been told that 193 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: toast was a little bit safer. They can handle in 194 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: their mouth a little bit easier, So we use toasting 195 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: because the toast is really hot when I'm spreading it. 196 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: I think when I use the mainland butter, it spreads 197 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: that a little bit easier. And I know we've mentioned 198 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: it time and time again, but I can promise this 199 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: is not sponsored at all. It is just the only 200 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: real butter on the market that is one hundred percent 201 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: just basically cream and a little bit of salt, and 202 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: that is the way it should be. A lot of 203 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: the different spreads, particularly the margarine ones on the market, 204 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: all the spreadable type butters have a ton of ingredients. 205 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: They're highly process If that's what you want to use, 206 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: that's fine, but I think it comes down to how 207 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: often you actually use it. And now with kids, and 208 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: my kids did a lot of toast we probably have 209 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: toast sixty seventy percent of the time for breakfast. We're 210 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: not a huge cereal type family. We often don't have 211 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: time to make eggs and stuff, so we do use 212 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: toast with a lot of spreads. 213 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: You know. 214 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: We might do cottagecheese, we might do avocado, we might 215 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: do nut butters, we might do actual butter. So I'm 216 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: using a lot more butter these days than I ever 217 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: previously was without kids, So I think because we are 218 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: using that little bit more still only a teaspoon or 219 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: to a day, but it is sort of a regular 220 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: thing each week that I am a little bit more 221 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: concerned about the brand that I do buy, so it 222 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: is that a little bit more expensive. The other alternative 223 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: is to just buy a block of actual butter like 224 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: you would, you know, the butter you buy when you 225 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: put it into a cake or something that but you 226 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: just need to let that sit on the bench for 227 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: a little bit to soften. So it's actually a little 228 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: bit spreadable. But from a budget perspective and in a 229 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: whole food ingredient perspective, that probably is the best one. 230 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: But I do sort of like the mainland one because 231 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, it does come into tubet doesn't kind of 232 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: get messy everywhere. 233 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: You don't really need to leave it out. It is 234 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: fairly spreadable. That's my opinion. 235 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: Some people might have another opinion, but that's sort of 236 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: what prompted me to do that video on Instagram in 237 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: the first place. And if you're not following me on Instagram, 238 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: feel free to follow away. The fitness dietitian Susie's page 239 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: is very simple. Susie Borol Dietitian. I probably should have 240 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: just written lean Ward Nutrition, but I didn't. I went 241 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: with the Fitness Dietitian ten years ago, and I'm sort 242 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: of too far in to change my name now, Susie. 243 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: Ah, there's so many things I could say here, I'm 244 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 4: just not even going to respond to it, so I'll 245 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: just leave that with you. But yes, so time to 246 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: have a look at your spread and see actually how 247 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 4: much good stuff is in it. So flip those babies 248 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: over and have a look. 249 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we are going to be talking about 250 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: a very interesting piece of dried fruit which is actually 251 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: a dried plum, which a lot of people don't realize, 252 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: but it is prunes. And there was a very interesting 253 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: I think it was a video on TikTok that originated. 254 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: Then there were some stories written up in the media 255 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: and this doctor was basically saying that there's one thing 256 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: he recommends for bone health and osteoporosis, and it's not 257 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: dry and it's not calcium. So I note, Darien calcium 258 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: absolutely fine fosteroporosis. We wanted it's really important, particularly after 259 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: the age of fifty. But he was saying his video 260 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: this one thing he generally recommends really really surprises people. 261 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: And the funny thing was that was prunes. And originally 262 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: Susie and I were like prunes, like what, like, is 263 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: he being serious? His videos had over one hundred thousand views, 264 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: and when you actually dive a little bit deeper into 265 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: the research, doctor Dinger was really onto something. His name 266 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: was doctor Peter Dinger. He put up a video and 267 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: he went, if you've got issues with bone mineral density. 268 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Eat some prunes. What did you say? His name was 269 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: doctor Dinger Dinger, Doctor Peter Dinger. Should I pronounce that right? Dinger? 270 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: Is that really? 271 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 272 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't make it up. That's his name, Dr 273 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Peter Dinger. 274 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: Maybe he says a gingering like ginger. 275 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Ginger. 276 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: Apologies, Doctor Dr Peter we'll call him. 277 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Peter Peter. That's safer I feel. Dr Peter recommends prunes. 278 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: So there's actually some research in Harvard Health that a 279 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: grease with doctor Peter that prunes are really good for 280 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: bone mineral density. So there was a study published back 281 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: in October twenty twenty two, which is still quite relevant. 282 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: The world of nutrition science moves very slowly, so a 283 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: study that's only two years old is still quite relevant 284 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: in the American Journal Clinical Nutrition that found that eating 285 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: five to six prunes a day, so it's not insignificant, 286 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: you'd have to quite like them helped women past menopause 287 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: age to preserve bone mineral density in their hips, which 288 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: also translated to fewer bone breaks. So that's a really 289 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: really good study. And then the research also tracked down 290 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five older women and followed them 291 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: for a year, and it showed that a daily handful 292 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: of prunes lowered inflammatory chemicals that contributed to bone breakdown. 293 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: So it saw two hundred and thirty five older women 294 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: observed for a year, and the research basically suggested that 295 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: lowered inflammatory chemicals that cause bone degradation. Now, when we 296 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: looked a little bit more into the research or the 297 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: nutrition behind this, SUSI. No one's saying exactly why, but 298 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: it's believed to be because prunes are quite high in 299 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: vitamin K. Now, we know that vitamin K, like vitamin 300 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: D and calcium, plays an important role in bone health. 301 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: So an higher risk of vitamin K can help to 302 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: preserve bone function. And we do know that low intakes 303 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: of vitamin K can actually increase your risk of fractures 304 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: and lower your bone mineral density. Now, prunes are also 305 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: good from a potassium perspective, they're good from a five perspective. 306 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: You know, routinely they offer people prunes in hospital if 307 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: they're a little bit constipated or they've just come out 308 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: of surgery to get those bowels going. So prunes are 309 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of a superfood in themselves. But I 310 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: must say I've never heard them recommended for osteoporosis risk. 311 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: So if you ask someone that is at risk or 312 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: has a lower bone real density, or has had recurrent fractures, 313 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: or you know that you've got a family history of osteoporosis, 314 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: you don't have dairy, you don't have calcium. We have 315 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: talked about natural ways to increase the calcium in your diet. 316 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: But I think it's really important to be putting a 317 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: handful of prunes into your diet as well. But if 318 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: you have a little bit of sense of tummy, I 319 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: would potentially just increase them slowly. I think if you 320 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: go from having no prunes to fible six a day, 321 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: it made backfire and you'd come, you know, sliding out 322 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: the other end. 323 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: So first of all, when you said to me that 324 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: prunes were dried plums, it did take a second, like, 325 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have got to that. 326 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,239 Speaker 4: I agree. We don't often think of it in that context. 327 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: It is coming up into stonefruit season, which is so 328 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: good for us nutritionally. I in all how many years 329 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 4: have I been a dietitian too many, I have never 330 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: heard of the relationship between prunes and bone health. So 331 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: I thought this was fantastic, particularly given that there's a 332 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: plenty of women who are forty to fifty worried about 333 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: bone health and they don't like or consume dairy. So 334 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I loved it. I just thought it 335 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: was something we hadn't heard of before. And we love 336 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: to bring you that latest research on the nutrition couch. 337 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: So your gut will be happy, and your bones if 338 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: you have a few more prunes going in lands. So 339 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: that's good, isn't it all? 340 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: Right? 341 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: Well, moving on to our product review of the week, 342 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: and this is a product act that came to us 343 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: in an interesting way because we often sort of dork 344 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: out the supermarket shelves and send each other images of 345 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 4: foods that we think could be good to review, or 346 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: or certainly we get ideas and suggestions from our Instagram audience. 347 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 4: So always contact us with product questions because you might 348 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 4: see things we haven't seen. But I think, is this 349 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: a dietician who sent us this? 350 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it was It was just a lovely 351 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: lady who said, hey, a listener, A listener exactly, yeah, yep. 352 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: And she said to us, hey, I've got this company 353 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: with my husband who is making tuna in Australia and 354 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: it's Australian tuna, which if all our tuna eat us 355 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: out there, well, no, it's really difficult to get. 356 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: If any Australian tuna, well there's none. This is the 357 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: only brand that is Australian tuna. 358 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: Yes, so this is called the brand is called Walker's 359 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: Tuna and it is about to be released into Woolworths. 360 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: By the time we go to air will be available. 361 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: And it's the first alien alba core tuna that is 362 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: also preserved in extra virgin olive oil and Leanne and 363 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: I just had our tails wagging as dieticians because we 364 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: just thought this sounded fantastic, because we also knew that 365 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: well at the time that we couldn't get astray in tunaw. 366 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: But second, it's so rare to have it preserved in 367 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: extraversion olive oil. And I'll often have clients talk to 368 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 4: me and say, look, I really hate tuna in spring water. 369 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: Can I get the one in oil? And I'll say yes, 370 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: but drain it because it's not always the best quality oil. 371 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: Whereas this is in a little pouch, in a beautiful 372 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: black pouch, and it's in partnership with Nil Perry. It's 373 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: got fifteen grams of protein per serve, it's a seventy 374 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: gram pouch and nutritionally just one hundred percent clean. So 375 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: it's when I say clean, it means a very no 376 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: additives or unnecessary things on the ingredient list. So eighty 377 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: seven percent fish, which is line caught alba corded tuna, 378 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: extra virgin olive oil and some salt. So as clean 379 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: as clean can be nutritionally very rich naturally fifteen grams 380 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,119 Speaker 4: of protein perserve ten grams are fat, but a significant 381 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: proportion of that is coming from good fats, and two 382 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: twenty milligrams of sodium is actually pretty low for a 383 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: preserve fish. So it's a big thumbs up from Leanna 384 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: and I because yeah, we love to support Australian companies 385 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 4: and this is the first Australian tuna available in Australian supermarket, 386 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: so support them and for you a tuna eater, great 387 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: for your crackers or your salads coming into summer. And yeah, 388 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: big dumbs up from us, Yes sah, yeah. 389 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: I like it. 390 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: I do like it, and I love that it's Australian. 391 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: You know where we can we want to support Australian companies. 392 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: This is not sponsored at all. Granted, the Lovely Listener 393 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: did send us a couple of samples for us to try. 394 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: We've tried it, it's wonderful, but it is not a 395 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: sponsored segment by any means. We just wanted to show 396 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Cararise a great Australian product because we feel like our 397 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: listeners would benefit from it and we know how easy 398 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: and portable tune it is. It's very affordable as well 399 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: from a you know, just a quick protein source. But 400 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: given that the pack is about fifteen point five grams 401 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: of protein per serving, I would want my ladies, whether 402 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 2: or not they're trying to actively achieve fat loss. I 403 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: think most women should be aiming for at least twenty 404 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: grams of protein in a meal. So I would be 405 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: putting this patch of tuning into a couple of slices 406 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: of really nice dense grainy bread, because a really nice 407 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: dense grainy bread will give you five, six, even eight 408 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: grams of protein as well, that coupled together will boost 409 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: you over that twenty grams. If I was using in 410 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: a salad, I would like to see a bit of 411 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: cottage cheese or fetter or something in there again to 412 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: boost up the protein, if not a handful of legumes 413 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: getting some fire, but getting some carbs getting some protein. 414 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: So I would be using this with more than just 415 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: a big leafy salad. I would be adding some things 416 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: to it to boost up that overall protein intake of 417 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: a meal as well. 418 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, big thumbs up for me. Can't fault it. 419 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: I think it's a wonderful addition, and the fact that 420 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: it's going to be available and wool worse is just great. 421 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: It makes it really accessible for a lot of Australians 422 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: as well. 423 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: True and I've had a look. 424 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: It's actually seems to be available in a number of 425 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 4: Harris Farms, So if you have Harris Farm in your area, 426 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: that's always a great place to find sort of more 427 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: boutique products. I'm just trying to find a price on it, 428 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 4: because that is obviously a heavy influencer. I would say 429 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: it's probably going to be more expensive than imported tuna. 430 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 4: I've seen one five ninety five in a boutique, so 431 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 4: i'd assume it's a little bit cheaper in grocery. So 432 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: we'll keep you posted on that. But yeah, sometimes you 433 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: do have to pay a little bit more frustrating products. 434 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: But if where your fici's source is important to you, 435 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 4: then you have some more discretionary budget for things like 436 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: good quality seafood. It's a big thumbs up from Leanna 437 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: and I absolutely all right. 438 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: And then following on to our listener question of the week, Susie, 439 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: I will take hold of this one because I've got 440 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: some strong opinions on it. The question is should you 441 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: regularly be having a colon cleanse? So if you want 442 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: to not listen to podcasts right now, the answer is no, absolutely, 443 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: not a hard no, but I will explain why for. 444 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Those people who would like to continue listening. 445 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: So basically, colon cleansers have evolved from I don't know, 446 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: this ancient theory that the body poisons itself by retaining 447 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: waste products. Essentially, that's completely false. The body will remove 448 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: all of its waste perks, the fecal waste, the fecal matter, 449 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: and so we do not need to call and cleanse. 450 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: There is zero scientific evidence, zero scientific evidence to back 451 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: up the theory that the body needs regular coalon cleanses. 452 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: What's more like, our digestive system actually gets rid of 453 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: its own waste material and bacteria. That is a natural 454 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: process that the body does. It doesn't matter if you've 455 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: got a little bit of an inarto a bow, if 456 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: you're constipated, like the body will get. 457 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Rid of the waste itself. 458 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: It is far better and far safer if through the 459 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: diet you were doing higher fiber, more movement will water 460 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: to get things moving through properly. We don't just want 461 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: to get a colon cleanse, to excrete everything. It can 462 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: actually be incredibly dangerous because, for one, I've heard stories 463 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: of people, you know, perforating the bow, putting all sorts 464 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: of things up there, like coffee, different types of nutrients, 465 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: just things that probably should not go directly into the colon. 466 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: And also side notes, these people aren't medical doctors. A 467 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: lot of them are in air quotes, a therapists of 468 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: some such conducting these colon cleanses. They are not medically 469 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: trained professionals. I'm an absolute hard known on colon cleanses. 470 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't care what people say to try and convince me. 471 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 2: I am a hard, hard nun on them. And I 472 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: have talked to a lot of doctors, a lot of 473 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: gastro entrologists. They've seen a lot of horror stories from 474 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: these things. 475 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: It can actually. 476 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Upset the diversity of the gut microbiome as well. We 477 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: just should not be putting things up in the colon 478 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: and trying to cleanse when the body has an in 479 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: built cleansing system. It's better that we work on the 480 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: foods and drinks that we're putting in rather than trying 481 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: to artificially inject other things up the other way. So 482 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: I'm a strong opinion on this one. It's a hard 483 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: nun on the nutrition counch. I do not believe anybody 484 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: needs a colon cleanse if you have issues with your digestion, 485 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: if you have issues with intolerances. I have a team 486 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: of dietritians that specialize in this. We see clients all 487 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 2: around the world. Head to leand Ward Nutrition the virtual 488 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: clinic online. Just google land Ward Nutrition Virtual Clinic. You 489 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: can see one of my teams and we will help 490 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: you from a nutrition and a lifestyle perspective. We should 491 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: not be getting colon cleanses. They can actually be quite dangerous. 492 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: Do you have anything to add, Susie to my rant? 493 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: I think the best colon cleanses either a big bowl 494 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: of all bran or a nice rich veggie soup. Natural clean, 495 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: natural can't go wrong with that, and it's a lot 496 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: cheaper than a colon cleans Like the other thing with 497 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: these interventions is they're so expensive. 498 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: They're not cheaper. Yeah, like, I just I'm too. 499 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: Tight to be paying for that. Doesn't said It'll cost 500 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 4: you a lot less to buy some all brand and 501 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: that's the best thing for your gut if you can 502 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: tolerate it, So yeah, I'm with you. I always think 503 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: it's like when people talk about getting life a suction 504 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 4: if you're fat, right, so you think, right, oh, well 505 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: I've got this stomach fat or just have it sucked out. Now, 506 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: it doesn't work like that in the body because when 507 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 4: you suck out fat, the skin heals so badly because 508 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: it's lost. It's like structure, and it's just not how 509 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: the body's meant to function. Like you've got to burn 510 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: fat off. You can't just suck it out. And it's 511 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 4: the same as the colon cleans It just doesn't work 512 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: like that. You can't just stick some water into turchion 513 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 4: up there and give it a wash. Like it's just 514 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: not how things work. So one hundred percent. But I again, 515 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: it's like juice cleanses or that people get them all 516 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: the time. So I think, save your money, and there's 517 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: much more natural ways to preserve the body. The body 518 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 4: is the ultimate machine. We will never replicate what it 519 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 4: achieves on its own, and we're best to work in 520 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: with it rather than think we know better. 521 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 2: One hundred percent, we have fully functioning most of us 522 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: hopefully have fully functioning livers and kidneys, and that does 523 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: all of the cleansing that the body actually needs. And 524 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: even if you've had, you know, a big holiday, you've 525 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: had a heavy few weeks of eating, it's absolutely okay. 526 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: Just getting back to. 527 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 2: More balanced eating, including more fruits and vegetables, more fiber, 528 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: more whole grains, more lean proteins, just essentially getting back 529 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: on track with your nutrition is the. 530 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Only cleanse you actually need. 531 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: You don't need to be artificially putting anything up the 532 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: backside or actually putting any sort of cleanse down drinking 533 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: wise or anything. Just get back to good foundation or 534 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: healthy eating, and that's the only cleansed that the body 535 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: actually needs. Well. That brings us to the end of 536 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: the nutrition catch for another week. Thank you so much 537 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: for your support at our new range of products Designed 538 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: by Dietitians dot com. 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