WEBVTT - SAMUAL JOHNSON - AUSTRALIAN STORY - ABC

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast speak.

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<v Speaker 1>The line, Hey everyone, welcome back to TV Reload. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank you for clicking and downloading on today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode featuring actor and activist Samuel Johnson, who will feature

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<v Speaker 1>in tonight's ABC's Australian Story. I hope many of you

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<v Speaker 1>tune in at eight pm as his episode screens on

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<v Speaker 1>Freedoware Television, and if you are catching up with this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast later in the week by then you will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to view this episode on iView, the Australian Broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>Company's digital platform. I am the biggest fan of Samuel

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson since the moment he uttered his first few words

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<v Speaker 1>on Secret Love of Us in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I joined many Australians instantaneously falling in

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<v Speaker 1>love with his warmth, his accessibility and storytelling. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>secrets about Sam's life in terms of his highs and lows.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't actually have to look far beyond that affable

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<v Speaker 1>laric and smile to know that he has quite the

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<v Speaker 1>story to tell. I've been patiently waiting for this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that at some point Sam would be asked to

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<v Speaker 1>share his story on this brilliant show, which for decades

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<v Speaker 1>has been showcasing amazing Australian stories. Samuel Johnson is the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of guy to win a Gold LOGI, win Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars, raise twenty million dollars, take on the

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary if he puts his.

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<v Speaker 3>Mind to it. There is this inner.

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<v Speaker 1>Superhero ability about this man that most of us could

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<v Speaker 1>only dream of possessing. But the man behind those achievements

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<v Speaker 1>is also a man who has weathered more than a

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<v Speaker 1>few storms. The grief and loss in his life could

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<v Speaker 1>very easily have destroyed him, and yet he surfaces time

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<v Speaker 1>and time again to share his story, winning audiences with

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<v Speaker 1>his vulnerability and his honesty. My chat belly scratches the

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<v Speaker 1>surface on what we will see tonight on Australian Story,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did get to ask him a few quick

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<v Speaker 1>questions about some of his life achievements, from Secret Life

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<v Speaker 1>of Us to the success of his charity Love Your Sister.

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<v Speaker 3>We also talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About the decision in saying yes to featuring on Australian Story,

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<v Speaker 1>what he guessed they would ask and if he was

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<v Speaker 1>scared with some of the topics that he knew they

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<v Speaker 1>would no doubt require him to share. I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>you loved this episode and this chat. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a privilege and a gift to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have some time with sam this morning. And one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I walked away from this conversation was a continued

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<v Speaker 1>admiration for Samuel Johnson for his humility and bravery and guys,

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<v Speaker 1>my hope is that you get to.

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<v Speaker 3>Connect to that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hey, here you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good mate, How are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>You're up early to be talking about Australian story this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been doing it for a little while now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a beautiful morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely amazing. It's started at that point of

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria where it's freezing but you're kind of enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, it's both.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that you're out in the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>regional Victoria and you really get the cold.

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<v Speaker 3>It bites you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm posting now.

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<v Speaker 4>And so so three days a week I get up

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<v Speaker 4>early and drive through the cold and get introduced to

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<v Speaker 4>the day and it's pretty unforgiving at nighttime at this

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<v Speaker 4>time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about australis story. And I have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you straight away, were you scared when you signed up

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<v Speaker 1>to do this show? Because we know with this show

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to ask you robust questions about your life,

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<v Speaker 1>and that must be a little bit scary in some ways.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrecked the alligator a bit. I mean, none of

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<v Speaker 4>us are immune. You know, I thought suicide might come up.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought usage might come up. You know, I've done

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<v Speaker 4>life just like all of us, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a mixture of victories and face plants, and I knew

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<v Speaker 4>they'd go there, but at the same time, I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of respect them for that, And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I think life's too short not to go there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've got nothing to hide. It's scars and all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the format goes deep, and I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>works best when the people that sign up to this

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<v Speaker 1>show allow themselves to be vulnerable. And you know, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about you and I think about your

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<v Speaker 1>career and what we know of you, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>are also at your best when you're vulnerable and you

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<v Speaker 1>share your story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my dad used to say when I was growing up, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know whether I'm allowed to say this, but

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<v Speaker 4>this is what my dad used to say, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>care if you bullshit me, just don't bullshit yourself. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was taught from a young age not to lie

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<v Speaker 4>to myself. So I don't walk around this planet thinking

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm any better than I am. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just try not to be.

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<v Speaker 2>A tured beggar.

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<v Speaker 4>It's what we all try, you know, We're just it's

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<v Speaker 4>a seesaw, isn't it. You know, it's the angel on

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<v Speaker 4>one side and it's the devil on the other.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh, you've got any more wedding hanging a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you that you that I'm not too sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry about that. I must have I pressed something with

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<v Speaker 2>my take. Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a story of my life, mate. I do that

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. I'll be on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Phone to my mum, and because we talk in such

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<v Speaker 1>long bursts, we don't realize that in actual fact, we accepted

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<v Speaker 1>another phone call and are probably telling a stranger from

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<v Speaker 1>a really personal story. And I think they don't appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they probably think this is very strange for

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<v Speaker 1>a person to be telling them this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting to think I might have a cheek line.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good way. It's a good way to put it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what's funny?

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about your dad and you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that saying that you that he shared with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in I grew up in Melbourne, so I

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<v Speaker 1>often would go to pubs and bars to hang out,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all did growing up. And I remember meeting

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<v Speaker 1>your dad with one of your sisters. Now I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember which sister Sam it was, but they're playing pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember having a conversation with him, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>a very wise person, who's very open a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I perceive you to be without really

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<v Speaker 1>knowing you personally.

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<v Speaker 4>I am I'm so stoked to hear that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>very delicate, but he was very graceful. I'm very vulgar

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<v Speaker 4>and ghost but he was very dignified. I'm very verbose,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I travel at one hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 4>k's an hour, and he's very quiet and listened. He

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<v Speaker 4>was very quiet and listened well. And he was admired

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<v Speaker 4>by everyone, and he was like like everyone used to

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<v Speaker 4>seek his advice. I mean, I was just so lucky

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<v Speaker 4>in the dad lottery that I got a dad that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, equipped me for this savagery we call life,

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<v Speaker 4>and taught me to be nice to others and not

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<v Speaker 4>to lie to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very generous, I think with his time. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone had even pointed out they said that Samuel Johnson's

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<v Speaker 1>father over there, and so I was probably a bit

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<v Speaker 1>bold to go over there and have a game of

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<v Speaker 1>pool with them because I was such a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of yours. It was around the time that Secret Life

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<v Speaker 1>of Us was huge, so we're talking decades ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it at DT's Molly Meldrum's.

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<v Speaker 3>Pub, Yes, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we shouldn't say this because he lives two

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<v Speaker 1>houses down to them. People try and find him, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly because Molly has that policy where he leaves these

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<v Speaker 1>front door open, so you don't want to tell people

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<v Speaker 1>about where Molly lives because you know you can probably

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<v Speaker 1>wonder inside and have a cup of tea with him

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<v Speaker 1>at any time of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I've played playpool there on many occasions. I

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<v Speaker 4>used to go and see Dad there about once a week,

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<v Speaker 4>and Molly Meldrim helped me get out of a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 4>where Russell Crowe was suing me, so so yeah, got

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<v Speaker 4>a rich history with that pub and have had many

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<v Speaker 4>a good times there.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been back there recently?

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<v Speaker 2>About a year and a half ago, I popped him briefly.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't been back there in a long time either.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's the same place, but it's changed ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it still has the Thames that have field.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit of a nostalgia anyway. People like this

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<v Speaker 1>is not your chance to interview Samuel Johnson's love of

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<v Speaker 1>pub but it does lead me into the question of

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you about vices. And you know, yesterday, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing my research to talk to you today,

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<v Speaker 1>I found something online which said something about are people's

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<v Speaker 1>vices signs or clues that they are in fact in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble or not addressing bigger issues? What are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on that kind of conversation about vices.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we've all got vices, and I call it

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<v Speaker 4>wrestling the alligator. And I think those vices can can

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<v Speaker 4>bring the worst and the best out of it. I

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<v Speaker 4>think if they're policed vigilantly, they can have a positive

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<v Speaker 4>net effect. And I think as vices tend to do,

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<v Speaker 4>I think if vices.

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<v Speaker 2>Take control, then the outcome is not good.

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<v Speaker 4>Most people, statistically, when they wrestle the alligator, they win

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a positive experience. And then there's people that

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<v Speaker 4>really enjoy their vices and that's where the outcomes aren't

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<v Speaker 4>so positive. So it's something that I'm very aware of.

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<v Speaker 4>I keep a usage diary myself. I'm going to an

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<v Speaker 4>AA meeting next Monday. You know, I'm a posty in

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<v Speaker 4>a country town, so I don't stay up too late

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<v Speaker 4>the night before. We put things in place to try

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<v Speaker 4>and learn how to wrestle the alligator better, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not sure that it's not as simple as

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<v Speaker 4>a cold turkey thing for everyone, but it's important to

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<v Speaker 4>keep an eye on it, to talk to others about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and to do you best against it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that in some ways that Australia has

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we used to.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we used to live in a culture of alcohol,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think we used to glorify it. Statistically, we're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing that young people aren't drinking, they're not taking it up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not just going down, it's going well down. So

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing generationally that we're learning about that and we're

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<v Speaker 4>changing our system. You know, we know that alcohol increases DV.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that alcohol increases all kinds of things. There

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<v Speaker 4>are health implications, there are social implications, there are familial implications,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're drinking less and less and it's becoming less

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<v Speaker 4>and less a part of our culture.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more and more common to go out.

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<v Speaker 4>These days and to be a a drinking establishment and

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<v Speaker 4>to see people there that are off the booth and

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<v Speaker 4>they're just having a lemonade.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see the culture changing before my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's changing, probably because you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>the same age, you know. That's like even on the

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<v Speaker 1>shows that we watched, you know, everyone was having drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>Like even when we watch Secret Life of Us because

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<v Speaker 1>I rewatched that show all the time because yeah on

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<v Speaker 1>borderline obsessed, don't hold against it, And even watching that show,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that we were drinking for that era, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big way of socializing.

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<v Speaker 4>And a steeped part of our culture, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's good to be that breaking down now. Part of

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<v Speaker 4>that is talking about it more and not just seeing

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<v Speaker 4>it as an essential thing to do to be an Australian,

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<v Speaker 4>but a thing that has consequences, and we're seeing now

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<v Speaker 4>people drop off. It's just old dinosaurs and relics like

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<v Speaker 4>me that are still wrestling with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably and me. All right, I think I found something

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<v Speaker 1>in common there. There's a quote in tonight's episode, and

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<v Speaker 1>this person who joins the show says, I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>love your sister without you and vice versa. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>had time to really reflect on the achievements of that charity,

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<v Speaker 1>because when I looked, because of course I know about

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<v Speaker 1>it and I've donated to it, but I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea the numbers that you've been able to raise.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've had time to reflect. We're at the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>million dollar mark. I've had a lot of time to reflect.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been crying for about three weeks. It's been one

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<v Speaker 4>of the most amazing positive experiences in my life. I

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<v Speaker 4>know it sounds like I looked like a mess, but Gesz, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I have had time to reflect on it, and it

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<v Speaker 4>means an incredible amount to me. But I've got my

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<v Speaker 4>sister's words echoing in my head. Sam, this isn't your money,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm a glorified megaphone, and the money comes from

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<v Speaker 4>the people who are listening to you today.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes from people like you. That's why I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>service to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Forever, and I've had time to reflect on it, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a two way straight reciprocally. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 4>in altruism. I think it's too simplistic. What I've tapped

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<v Speaker 4>into and what I've been able to do and what

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<v Speaker 4>I've been given.

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<v Speaker 2>Back is astronomical.

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<v Speaker 4>So we might have pulled together twenty million dollars for

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<v Speaker 4>cancer research, but personally, all of those legends have given

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<v Speaker 4>me a reason to live, so and that's priceless. So yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's donning achievement, but on a personal level, my heart

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<v Speaker 4>is falling off. Sleep well at night, mate, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>all one can ever hope for.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember once I did a reality show and I

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<v Speaker 1>came off at and had a really big following for

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<v Speaker 1>a very short period of time, and I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>join charities.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to use this platform for something, And I

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<v Speaker 1>did three charities in a row straight after doing this show, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember real I realized at that time it's

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to ask people for money, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>a charity. And I don't know what it was about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but so many people just were able to connect to

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<v Speaker 1>your story and that story and hand it for money.

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<v Speaker 4>It is really hard, challenging to ask for money. I

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<v Speaker 4>was speaking to carry A big Moore a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>weeks ago about it, and she too was talking about

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<v Speaker 4>that exact same thing. I don't like asking people for money.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes me very uncomfortable. I've had I've had thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>years to try and get used to it. But I

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<v Speaker 4>was just chatting with Carrie big More the other week

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<v Speaker 4>about it. It's incredibly challenging, especially when you're asking people

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<v Speaker 4>for money after you've already asked them before.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's the ugly side of what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't enjoy it, but that is my job.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm raising funds for hard science and luckily I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>raising funds for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still I think I'll die uncomfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's I don't want to monetize this pain. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to ask people for their heart earned when they've

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<v Speaker 4>got none, you know. I mean, we call it a

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<v Speaker 4>cock a living crisis and never but basically everyone's broke.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm still getting around saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>science matters.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so yeah, don't I don't enjoy the money

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<v Speaker 4>side of things particularly, and that's where I focus on. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>I need to just tell the country about precision medicine

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<v Speaker 4>and cancer as well, and so I see myself not

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<v Speaker 4>as a fundraiser but as a science communicator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good way to put it. But also

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<v Speaker 1>people buy you, do you know what I mean? There

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<v Speaker 1>has to be something in the minutia or something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's the right word. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're uncomfortable with asking for people for money,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a part of the fact that people.

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<v Speaker 3>Will give it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? It's that that you

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<v Speaker 1>that you wrestle with that and you understand the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of it is written on your face, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and we always keep the arc more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well we're not asking for gold, we're asking for

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<v Speaker 4>any silver coins, you know. Like it's it's just like

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<v Speaker 4>our twenty million didn't come from the high.

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<v Speaker 2>End of town. It came from people like who found

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of bucks in the last ten you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's look at I look at our quote demographic and

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<v Speaker 4>we're not rich and so that makes up asking for

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<v Speaker 4>help even harder because of people with less give more.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yeah, And it's a strange.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a strange part of it before you go because

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<v Speaker 1>I've run out of time that you know, my partner

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<v Speaker 1>would kick me. He would come in and kick me

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't ask you anything about my favorite show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Secret Life of Us. He'd be like, you're embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you ask him? Is something that he would say.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was at SPA which is Screen Producers Australia

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<v Speaker 1>last week, absorbing people talking about TV shows, and it

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<v Speaker 1>dawned on me while I was sitting there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think every generation gets a Secret Life of Us where

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<v Speaker 1>we tell a story, a scripted drama about young people.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that in twenty twenty five, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>time that maybe the Edwards family reboot that show and

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<v Speaker 1>give the.

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<v Speaker 3>Next generation something like that. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we get we get amazing kind of offerings

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<v Speaker 4>lately like Boy Swallows Universe, Oh yeah, which is about

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<v Speaker 4>young people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I found that Really, I think that.

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<v Speaker 4>The Secret Life of Us was appropriate for that time.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be rewritten into a world that belongs to today.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't know, it's flash in the pan, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it works, then I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd work now.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we're in a different world at different time,

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<v Speaker 4>with a different perspective. I think even if you made

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<v Speaker 4>a show these days about young people, that'd be really

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<v Speaker 4>really different to the secret life of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, before you go, the last question ask everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>what is something from behind the scenes? And I usually

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<v Speaker 1>ask something about something from behind the scenes. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>explain when was the last time you're in a room

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<v Speaker 1>with Deborah Melman and Claudia carvn Like, where has that

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Again?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I've spoken to Dead Mailman a few times on

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<v Speaker 4>the phone, and I've caught up with Cordial Caravan.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite a bit, quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>She helps out our cancer mob and I saw her

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<v Speaker 4>about a year and a half ago when visited when

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Sydney, maybe two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a chat.

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<v Speaker 4>About Dancing with the Stars. I told her it was

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<v Speaker 4>a great thing to do. She did the next season

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<v Speaker 4>of it, you know, so so yeah, we still catch up.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, I haven't seen deb since. But I did

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<v Speaker 4>pass here in the old days because we played spin

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<v Speaker 4>the bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, there's something that people may not know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would say Cloudic Cover's my favorite episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Australian story so fast, but you might be back tonight

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<v Speaker 1>beating that when you shop a story tonight. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being so gracious and talking to me, but thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being so open and reflecting on your story

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope Australian audiences appreciate it as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Digits crossed and thank you so much. And I knew

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<v Speaker 4>that there'd be a fan out there somewhere, a secret

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<v Speaker 4>life of us, so it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a pleasure to talk and.

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<v Speaker 3>Text for your time.

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<v Speaker 1>I were ready for it, you were ready for it,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey turning to the media, mate and all the very best.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah to you too as well. And you've got the

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<v Speaker 2>number call me if you need me.