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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda jam nace Well. A new book, Pump

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Speaker 1: Up the Jam Twenty Years of Jonesy and Amanda, is

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Speaker 1: on sale now in all good bookstores.

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Speaker 2: Full of all the kinds of stories we've covered, the

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff of some of the interviews, the incidents,

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Speaker 2: the stuff that happens in the studio.

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Speaker 1: And when I say all good bookstores, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Book topia, which is great, brilliant and twenty years what

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Speaker 2: a show? Do you know many words were used on

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Speaker 2: this show during those twenty years and how many we

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Speaker 2: got right? They're two separate questions.

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Speaker 1: And boy did we catch up with some big, big names.

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Speaker 2: Dolly Parton for example. Dolly Parton one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: names in the world and one of the nicest people

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Speaker 2: you could hope to meet. Our next guest is the

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Speaker 2: most honored and revered country music star of all time.

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Speaker 2: She has both set and broken dozens of music records

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Speaker 2: over her career. She's dripping in Grammy's, She's won hearts

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Speaker 2: all over the world because she's an incredibly good human.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe this is actually happening. I'm a little overwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: Dolly Parton, Hello, Well, hello to you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Thanks for all those nice things

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Speaker 1: you said.

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Speaker 2: Well, your book is extraordinary. It is called Storyteller, My

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Speaker 2: life in lyrics. I know that you're a prolific songwriter,

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Speaker 2: but looking through these songs and the stories that go

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Speaker 2: with them, you say you can write a song anywhere, anytime.

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Speaker 2: What's the strangest place you've been when inspiration has hit.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've been in some pretty strange plane. I never

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Speaker 1: had that ash before. Probably in the bathroom of an airplane.

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Speaker 2: But I often.

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Speaker 1: Write on airplanes. But it's like, if it hits me,

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Speaker 1: the idea, here's for me, And you say, where can

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Speaker 1: I You know, I've got something to write down. I

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Speaker 1: got to get back to my seat. But I write

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Speaker 1: in the bathtub, I write anywhere. I cook a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I write a lot in my kitchen. But there's

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Speaker 1: no place that's out of reach for me to write

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Speaker 1: a song.

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Speaker 2: You say you wrote you think you wrote Joline and

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Speaker 2: I Will Always Love You on the same day. What

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Speaker 2: a hell of a day.

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Speaker 1: That's a day. No, I don't know if it's the

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Speaker 1: same day or the same week, but it was on

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Speaker 1: the same and they were back to back. I actually

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Speaker 1: recorded both those songs though in the same album Jolene

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Speaker 1: and on the Joline album. I Will Always Love You

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Speaker 1: was also on that album, and so so it was

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Speaker 1: a good week for me or a good night because

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Speaker 1: it was we found it on the same cassette, those

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Speaker 1: two songs, and I thought that was amazing myself. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea that I had written at the same

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Speaker 1: time with this.

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Speaker 2: Many of the songs, the early kind of folk and

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Speaker 2: country songs, had a real darkness to them, and I

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Speaker 2: know that you've tapped into a lot of You were

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Speaker 2: the one of the first female songwriters to tap into

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Speaker 2: the to the darkness of real emotion. It's amazing that

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Speaker 2: you were able to do that and still sustain such

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Speaker 2: a career that it wasn't seen as a downer. Really well,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of my a lot of my stories actually come from

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Speaker 1: the old world songs from Maryland, England, Scotland and all

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Speaker 1: those songs that used to tell stories and all the ballads.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of that kind of darkness in

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Speaker 1: my songs. But it's more I think back to the book.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading like a song teller. I'm reading like telling

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Speaker 1: stories and I'm singing them. But that's how they used

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Speaker 1: to carry messages and how they used to carry stories

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Speaker 1: years ago before they had television and radio. They were

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Speaker 1: just singing these balladeers. Would you write and sing these

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Speaker 1: songs and travel around? But I think people just kind

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Speaker 1: of hear that in my DNA, I think, and they

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Speaker 1: kind of just kind of relate to that. But I

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Speaker 1: write a lot of happy songs. Some of my saddest

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Speaker 1: songs I've written when I was happiest, and vice versa.

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Speaker 1: So as a songwriter, you just write what comes out

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Speaker 1: of you. We were just talking about you the other day.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Island's in the Stream, which was

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Speaker 1: written by the GiB Brothers, but that was originally for

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Speaker 1: Marvin Gay. Oh, I didn't even know that. You didn't

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Speaker 1: know that. I did not know that. All I know

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Speaker 1: about that song was years ago. I was living in

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Speaker 1: a little apartment up above in LA and Kenny had

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Speaker 1: a studio called Line's Share, I think it was the

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Speaker 1: name of the studio. It was just right down further

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Speaker 1: hill and so Barry they couldn't get the song wasn't

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Speaker 1: coming together, And so Barry said to Kenny, do you

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Speaker 1: happen to know Dolly Parton? And Kenny said, well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know her.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've worked with her. He said, you know

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Speaker 1: how to get in touch with her? And Kenny said, well,

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Speaker 1: I can call my manager. See, so they called me.

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Speaker 1: They thought I was in Nashville, and so they said

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Speaker 1: they called me and they said, hey, Kenny wants to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. And so he said, well who are you? Said,

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Speaker 1: we got a song that we we're likely to do,

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Speaker 1: so could we send you a cassette? I said, I said,

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Speaker 1: are you here in la and he said, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: a line share. I said, well, I'm just uphill. I said,

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Speaker 1: can I just come on down? So seriously, it went

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Speaker 1: that easy, and so I went down to the studio

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Speaker 1: soon as I got, you know, cleaned up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and I walked in and I just heard the song

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Speaker 1: of Time and Too. I went out and started singing

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Speaker 1: it and it clicked and everybody said, that's it. Barry said,

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's what I heard, and that's what I

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Speaker 1: wanted it to be, and boy, it just turned out great.

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Speaker 2: Just apologize to you because that is our duet.

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Speaker 1: Whenever we do karaoke, Amanda and I do karaoke, we

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Speaker 1: always do islands in the stream.

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Speaker 2: It's never a good reception.

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Speaker 1: It's a great karaoke. So Amanda plays Kenny's part and

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Speaker 1: I play your part. But can I hear a little

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Speaker 1: bit of it?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think we've had enough to drug commission.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to say with somebody else on a

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Speaker 1: zoom call and I was having to sing the harm

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Speaker 1: and I said, we need to stop this. We're ruined

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Speaker 1: our career. So exactly, let's don't go there.

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Speaker 2: Well, Dolly, it's a treat to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you get the book now.

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Speaker 2: It's in the song teller My Life and the lyrics

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Speaker 2: Dolly parton, thank you man, what a privilege. Thank you, Dolly,