1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: Well twenty two lives have been lost on Territory roads 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: already this year. This time last year, the number of 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: lives lost on Territory roads was four and the total 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: number of lives lost during twenty twenty three was thirty one. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: Any life lost, as we know, is absolutely devastating, but 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: the rate at which people are currently losing their lives 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory on our roads is shocking stuff. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: And the Northern Territory Police are certainly cracking down on 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: some of the risky behavior which we are experiencing. Now 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: joining us on the line today is Superintendent Daniel Shan. 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Daniel. 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Good mine, Kenny, how are you? 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, really good? Thank you so much for your time. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: Now tell us we've seen an increase in the road 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: toll this year. Have we seen an increase in some 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: of the risky behavior that you're seeing on the roads? 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Yes, most certainly. And I guess the issue is is 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: that Bromley, since COVID nineteen, we've experienced a lot of 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: risky well, selfishness on our roads has to be somewhere yesterday, 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: and that selfishness leads to the risky behaviors and terms 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: of an increase in drink and drug driving, speeding, not 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: wearing seat belts and those sorts of things that cause 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: all factors of the fatal five. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so over the weekend, the Northern Territory Police, 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: by the look of it, conducted a two day road 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: safety operation Friday afternoon as I understand to Sunday morning, 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: how many officers, how many officers were involved and how 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: did it go? 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: So we had nineteen police officers involved in the road 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: safety operation that occurred on the Friday evening and Saturday evening. 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: The operating times from the operation was from four pm 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: to two am on both of those days collectively. Over 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: those days, there were two ninety eight drivers that tested 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: negative on the bread test. At thirty four drivers tested positive. 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: Most of those were low range and medium range, with 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: a couple of the higher range that's over the point 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: one five. There were one hundred and thirty five drivers 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: that tested negative for drugs in their body and ten 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: drivers tested positive for drugs, mostly methamphotamine and cannabis, and 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: we had one cocaine as well. 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Wow. I mean, like when you look at those numbers, 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: there's massive numbers that are doing the right thing. But 43 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: you've still got sort of thirty four people testing positive 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: to lower medium range drink driving, a couple of higher 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: range and then when you look at the drugs, I 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: mean still ten people testing positive. 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: Some of them are mess. 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct. So in addition to that, there was 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: thirty four drivers were issued infringement notices for a very 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: variety of offenses including using handheld mobile phone, speeding and 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: obviously they low range drink driving and drugs, and a 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: number of drivers thirteen adults were issued noticed to appear 53 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: for court at court for various offenses as well. 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Right, so there is quite a few people you know 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: still doing the wrong thing, like you said, engaged in 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: risky behavior. 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: Correct, And look, I've got to agnize. Since COVID nineteen, 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: our raid policing resources have been diverted to do with 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: other competing priorities. Having our road users can expect to 60 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: see an increase in traffic police presence across and all 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: of the territory by the Territory Raid Policing Division. He 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: could be anywhere at any time. Police. I make no 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: apology to conducting road safety activities and producing the lives 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: lost on our roads and those activities will continue to 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: include random breath testing like we saw over the last 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: the Friday and Saturday speed detection instry cameras and police 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: and the concentration on those other causal factors like using 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: mobile phones. 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: In the how big an issue is that using phones? 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: We still feel? In fact, quite surprisingly, while we were 71 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: doing our RvTs, we had people driving into the random 72 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: breath testing sites using their mobile handheld phone whilst driving 73 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: in and talking to the police officer. 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: So those people received infringement notices for driving using a 76 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: handheld mobile phone. But that just points out, Wow, the 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: risky behaviors people are taking on our roads every day. 78 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing that worries me about it, like there's 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: a lot that worries me about it, but it's like 80 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: you're putting other people's lives at risk as well, not 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: just your own. 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: And that's the frightening part I think. 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: Well, you think about that those drivers drove into a 84 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: random breath testing site, one hand holding a mobile phone 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: to that ear, the other hand using the steering wheel 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: and trying to talk to the police officer who's subjecting 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: the random breath test. 88 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty extraordinary. 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think, look to me as well, 90 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: that's so brazen. Do they not realize that they're not 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: allowed to use their phones? 92 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: It's just stupidity, Yeah, stupidity, And this is what causes 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: the crashes on our roads because you can't seriously concentrate 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: on all of those things at once. 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah on, Daniel, tell me I know that. 96 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: We also like, there seems to be a lot of 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: pedestrian strikes in the Northern Territory at the moment, some 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: of those really sadly resulting in deaths. How do we 99 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: prevent that when in some cases it does seem to 100 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: be like, in some cases it seems to be pedestrians 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: who are putting themselves in really dangerous situations. 102 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Yes, Unfortunately, a lot of those pedestrians that have died 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: on our roads have been influenced under the influence of 104 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: alcohol at the time, which then increases their risky behavior 105 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: in terms of having no regard to their own safety 106 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: or the safety of other people. Yep, it is a 107 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: tricky one to deal with, especially when these pedestrians are 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: that inebriated that they have no regard for their own safety. 109 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: All we ask is for matter is to be cognizant 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: of the fact that when they're driving around particular areas 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: that there could be an increase of those pedestrians on 112 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: the road lane to use care and caution when doing so. 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: A quick listener question somebody sc called through to ask 114 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: if the police are planning to crack down on unregistered 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: drivers as well. This person is saying that their servo 116 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: where they work, they get two to three drive offs 117 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: a day and there's very little that they can do 118 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: about it. 119 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: Well, there's two aspects to that. One is the drive 120 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: off of the service station. The other one's driving unregistered 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: motor vehicle. And yes, we do so. Most of our 122 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: traffic police cars across the territory are kitted with automatic 123 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: number plate registration cameras and most the police officers are 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: conducting their duties. Those cameras are giving indication as to 125 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: vehicles that are unregistered and wherever possible, the police officers 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: will stop that vehicle and deal with the driver for 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: using a unregistered dick on the road. 128 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: So, Daniel, by the sounds of it, it sounds as 129 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: though our Northern Territory, well our traffic police, our police 130 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: are going to be out and about on the roads 131 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: in force. 132 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: So make sure you're doing the right thing. 133 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: Correct, and that's the thing. The key takeaway is is 134 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: that we could be anywhere at any time. The risk 135 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: of driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol has 136 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: to be reduced. Drivers have to I guess, if you're 137 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: going to consume our cohol or drugs and drive, you 138 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: want to ask yourself, who am I going to kill tonight? 139 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: Who am I going to kill when I'm driving under 140 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: the influence of drugs and alcohol. That's the sad reality 141 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: of it. 142 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, look I agree, I think it's you know you, 143 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: like I said before, you not only put yourself in danger, 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: but you put other road users in danger as well. 145 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Superintendent Daniel Sheen, I really appreciate your time this morning. 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having a chat with us. 147 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Thanks having me. 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: Thank you