1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Well and Woody podcast many oldest woman in the world 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: dying today, Woods one hundred and eighteen. Great knock, unreal, unbelievable. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Well done at Lucille. 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well done Lucille. Anyway, she said the key to 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: long life was a glass wine and a piece of chocolate. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: And I said, Lucille, I respect you, a respect, your 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: respect your elders, of course, but I don't believe you. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: And so I did a bit of research. What is 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: actually the key to long life? How do you actually 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: live long? And I stumbled across this guy called Robert Waldinger, 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: who's at Harvard University, is the chair of psychology at 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Harvard University. He runs the longest running study on human 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: happiness and well being on the Planet's been going for 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: since nineteen thirty eight, and ding is still alive. No, 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: he didn't start it. He's just in charge of it. Now. Don' 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: don't worry about asking the subjects, right, just ask the 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: bloke who runs it. It's two hundred and fifty. 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: Dingers has got the secret. He's just not telling any 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: of us. 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: No, So in nineteen thirty eight they started this actually 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: bloody fascinating. It's one of the most famous Ted talks. Ever, 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: so if you go and look it up, you'll be 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: able to find it. Robert Waldinger. They started this study 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty eight. So they got a number of 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: families in Boston, which is just near where the university is, 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: and they basically sat them down and they said, look, 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: we just want to study you for as long as 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: we possibly can. You, your partner, your kids, and we're 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: just going to come around and they go around to 30 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: their houses every two weeks, and they asked them it 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: was meant to be on psychology, how are you feeling, 32 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: how you're going with your partner, etc. But then over 33 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: time their data obviously increased and increased and increased and increased, 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: and so they started to draw some patterns and metrics 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: where they could actually measure what made people happier over 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: the course of their life, what made people live longer 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: over the course of their life. Wow, And the thing 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: that they found that made people live the longest, I'm 39 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: not ready for a drum roll yet. I'm going to 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: tease it a little bit more. I like teasing people. 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: So they the thing that they found, now you dare 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: drum wrong me is was so astonishing to them that 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: They actually had to double check it with another study 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: on well being because they were like, we do not 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: think this can be right. 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 2: I think this couldn't. This couldn't be the answer to 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: long life and happiness. 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: This thing killed people more than smoking or alcoholism. 49 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Comfortably, Sorry, there's a negative thing. 50 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: They found. Well, if it's the same thing, but the 51 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: other side of the coin of this killed people more 52 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: than smoking or alcoholism. Did wow? Yeah, that don't. Relationships. Yeah, 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: people's relationships. If you had a good relationship, if you 54 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: had a lot, if you had lots of successful, loving 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: relationships where you felt secure in relationships, you outlived everyone. 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Even for people that like smoked a lot or drank 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: a lot. This thing was fun more powerful in terms 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: of how long they lived. So he had the strength 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: of their relationship was the size of their heart, was 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: how much they loved in their life. 61 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: So doctor Victor Frankel, who's a psychiatrist who was in 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: the Holocaust and he was in a concentration camp, he 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: came to the same thing. 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: He did. 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: So he did a study from his time in the Holocaust. 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Well, come on, I've come on here with a very 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: impressive study. 68 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: The people. Well, it's the same answers, drum. 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: You've tried to you've tried to outstudy me, and you 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: hear me with the same thing. He said. 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: The people who survived overwhelmingly just had someone to live 72 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: for outside of the concentration, and overwhelmingly, yeah, the people 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: who I'm staying alive for this person because I'm looking 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: forward to seeing I've got a relationship with something. Whereas 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: the people who didn't or the people who found out 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 2: that say family or that loved died, Yeah, they would 77 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: also die almost yeah. 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, well yeah, so apparently when this study began, 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: when they started it, nobody cared about empathy or attachment 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: in their relationships. But they started realizing really quickly how 81 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: important it was as they got older and older. But 82 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: for something that it was too late and they die effectively, 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: they just die. As you said, there's no reason to 84 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: be here anymore if you're not living with securely somebody else, 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: unless you've got other people in your life to be 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: happy with and to share your life with. 87 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: So lots of Instagram followers live along life. 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: I think you missed the point. 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: all on the iHeartRadio app. 91 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh where I mean get your podcasts