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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: You're our entertainment guru, and at the moment, nothing says

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Speaker 2: entertainment like Married at First Sight. You and your sister

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Speaker 2: have a variety of recaps that are so entertaining, and

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Speaker 2: you call this work.

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Speaker 3: How you get away with it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so almost it feels like almost every night at

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Speaker 4: the moment, we're recapping Married at First Sight. Yeah, somehow

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Speaker 4: I'm employed to do that. But last night we had

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Speaker 4: the very first commitment ceremony of the season.

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Speaker 2: Can I was back you up? Is this where the

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Speaker 2: couples because I haven't been watching, is that where they

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Speaker 2: choose to leave or stay?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And as if they're going to leave when they're on

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Speaker 2: this media juggernaut.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and they've had a week of it being awful,

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Speaker 4: why not stay a little bit longer? And as you

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Speaker 4: both would know, all marriages have weekly commitment ceremonies. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure both of you sit down with your partners and say,

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Speaker 4: are we staying or leaving this week?

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Speaker 2: Every week for thirty years?

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, It's just a normal part of marriage. So

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Speaker 4: one thing that maths about maths that doesn't make sense

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Speaker 4: to me, though, is that if one person says leave

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Speaker 4: and one says stay, you have to stay. But that's

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Speaker 4: not how relationships work. If one person wants to leave,

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Speaker 4: it is over.

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Speaker 2: Just that is true. This is like coercion, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: One do you wants to leave?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry you're being stuck in a You're sharing

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Speaker 2: a bed for another week. It's not right.

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Speaker 4: And then they wonder why people trade each other horribly

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Speaker 4: because they don't want to be married. But I want

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Speaker 4: to talk to you about two couples specifically, and I

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Speaker 4: want you guys to be the experts because we're not

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Speaker 4: getting a lot from the experts.

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Speaker 1: My listening face. How good are the facials that those

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Speaker 1: experts are pulling? Is it mental or.

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Speaker 4: What it's And we get so many shots of it

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Speaker 4: as well. I feel like we get more shots of

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Speaker 4: the experts and the contestants. But first we've got Anthony

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Speaker 4: and Celin. So from the morning after their wedding, Celin

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Speaker 4: just has not vibed with Anthony. She has the ick.

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Speaker 4: She's just not into it. She's like, I don't like

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Speaker 4: that guy. She hates him. And the problem with being

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Speaker 4: married to someone you hate is you start being cruel

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Speaker 4: so she started calling him names. She's called princess. She

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Speaker 4: he tried to be vulnerable, and she said, are you

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Speaker 4: going to have a boo who?

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Speaker 2: So this is something I find interesting. The subtext sub

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Speaker 2: story to all this is that women want men who

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Speaker 2: are vulnerable. But these shows are full of women saying

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Speaker 2: I want you to man up. Exactly what is that

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Speaker 2: tell men who watch this?

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Speaker 3: Toxic femininity? Masculinity?

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Speaker 4: And I want a gentleman. I want a gentleman. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. But so basically they

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Speaker 4: both decide to stay, which makes no sense. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: they're contracted to stay at least one week, even though

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Speaker 4: this is entirely dysfunctional, and Selene refuses to either live

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Speaker 4: or engage with her partner or kind of talk to

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Speaker 4: him at all. So do you guys think this is sustainable?

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Speaker 4: And have you ever been in a relationship with somebody

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Speaker 4: that you didn't like?

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Speaker 2: No, so you're gonna have I relate.

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Speaker 4: Just like when you're a teenager and you're going out

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Speaker 4: with someone, You're like, I don't I don't like you.

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Speaker 4: You annoy me, and then you realize I don't have

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Speaker 4: to go out with someone if they annoy me, that's

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Speaker 4: that's not that's not a life for all.

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Speaker 1: And when did that pen he dropped for you? When

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Speaker 1: when you were with them, was there a point whether

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Speaker 1: you just looked at them? And OK, two pass to

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Speaker 1: this question, Penny dropped And then do you just say

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Speaker 1: I don't like you?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well I tried to say I don't like you,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not very assertive. So they were like, oh,

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Speaker 4: come on, we'll just keep going out. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll keep going out. And I'm like, no, I really

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Speaker 4: don't like you, but it's more just for petty things.

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Speaker 4: And then everything starts to annoy you because you shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be in a relationship with someone you don't like.

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Speaker 2: But people probably are in long term relationships with people

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Speaker 2: that don't like long term marriages. And they say, the

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Speaker 2: opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and it's just all like contempt, the eye

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Speaker 4: rolling and that. Oh. But second we have Holly and Andrew.

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Speaker 4: So Holly told Andrew during Confession's Week that she wants

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Speaker 4: a baby.

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Speaker 3: Really he's the pegging guy, he's.

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Speaker 4: The pegging guy, and she is worried about fertility. She's

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Speaker 4: always wanted to be a mum. He well, she confessed that.

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Speaker 4: He said, well, I've slept with three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: people and I don't want to try pegging. So I

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Speaker 4: think he misunderstood.

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Speaker 2: Well, he missed a lot of relationship through that.

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Speaker 4: How How But do you think you can have a

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Speaker 4: relationship if one person urgently wants a baby and the

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Speaker 4: other doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I do.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's a very interesting thing is

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Speaker 2: that these marriages have been truncated in such a short

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Speaker 2: period of time that women are often made to feel

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Speaker 2: bad for saying this is a priority for me, and.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, you've rightened the guy.

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Speaker 2: But if that's a priority for her, she's right to

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Speaker 2: say so.

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Speaker 4: I totally agree. And I think he then thinks it's

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Speaker 4: got to happen tomorrow, whereas I don't think she's asking

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Speaker 4: for that. She's just saying, this is something i'd like

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Speaker 4: in the next few years, but I did. The thing

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Speaker 4: about this show is that, as absurd as it is,

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Speaker 4: they are core questions that come up in everyone.

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Speaker 2: And just this is happening in a shorter period of time,

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Speaker 2: But women often feel that they can't be honest about

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Speaker 2: that stuff because they'll be called you know that. The

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Speaker 2: joke is, oh, she's needy, she's got that, mate, she's

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Speaker 2: got you.

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Speaker 1: But it comes down to I don't think men get

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Speaker 1: as maternal as women do. We don't have the when

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Speaker 1: I'm am bearing in mind, my eldest son was born

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Speaker 1: when I was twenty four, so I was like, a kid.

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Speaker 2: You've got men have got time on their hands.

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Speaker 3: We got to Yeah, there's time. But I don't know,

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Speaker 3: like I love like, I love having kids.

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Speaker 1: I love my kids, and I don't know what it's

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Speaker 1: like not to be a father. I've been a father

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Speaker 1: for more than half my life now, so it would

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Speaker 1: be strange not being a father.

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Speaker 3: I'd hate to be without kids now.

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Speaker 1: But when I was twenty four, when Helen said that

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Speaker 1: she was pregnant, I was like, Ugh, what.

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Speaker 3: What am I meant to do?

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Speaker 2: But this is a woman in her thirties who's wanting

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Speaker 2: to say and this is ticking for a way made pegging.

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Speaker 3: All he wants to do is continue doing his life

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Speaker 3: without the peggy.

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Speaker 2: But it's a cruelty that the producers have put them together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she would have said I want a baby, and they

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Speaker 2: put it with a guy who has no intention of.

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Speaker 1: This is the big discussion with the Chaps on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: At what level of care do those experts have have

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Speaker 1: known that she wants a baby and he just wants

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Speaker 1: to continue his life.

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Speaker 4: Make her three hundred and fifty one.

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Speaker 2: This is the third TV show he's all for. Oh,

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Speaker 2: so that's what that's for.

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Speaker 4: Because she was so adamant that She's like, I'm running

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Speaker 4: out of time. I'm thirty six, my fertility isn't great.

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Speaker 4: I really want to find someone, and this is just

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Speaker 4: wasting more time. Exactly, she doesn't have all the time

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Speaker 4: in the world.

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Speaker 3: And what about his cauliflower ear o, God, look at

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Speaker 3: that thing.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I've never seen it so clear.

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Speaker 2: Do we reckon?

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Speaker 4: It's like some weird American sport like wrestling. Wrestling, yes,

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Speaker 4: for the real wrestling, not the the real not rear wrestling.

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Speaker 1: Back to pegging with you, you know where they the

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Speaker 1: full on wrestling they do at school damage.

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Speaker 3: Not saying that wrestling's not real.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't want fifty guys out the

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Speaker 1: front trying to break my arm.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying the wrestling that they did at the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, but bizarrely he chooses to stay, which feels

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Speaker 4: like he is just wasting more of her time. But

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Speaker 4: he's crossed out Eve and written stay just to really

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Speaker 4: screw with her. So I'm excited for the week to come.

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Speaker 2: For see you next Monday.

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Speaker 3: Claire Jonesy and Amanda's Gamnation