WEBVTT - Some Big Changes Are Coming Next Year! And Unpacking "I Slept With 100 Men In One Day".

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land. Hi guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode of Life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cut, I'm Laura, and I'm Keisha filling in for

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<v Speaker 2>Brits today because she's off visiting her lover, her.

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<v Speaker 1>Fiance Ben in Romania. I mean, we do have another

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<v Speaker 1>episode this week before we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are actually technically on holidays, but Bridge just like she

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<v Speaker 2>took an extra day, which I feel like you deserve if.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing a long distance relationship. She was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>traveling and You're like, you're not traveling. By then she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i am, I'm on a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, when you're eating cinnamon scrolls, I can

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<v Speaker 2>see it on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>She looks like she's having a magical like winter Christmas,

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<v Speaker 3>which is very cool. But she will be back here

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<v Speaker 3>to do ask Uncut on Thursday, and then we also

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<v Speaker 3>have our year in review coming out on Christmas Eve,

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<v Speaker 3>and because we are suckers for punishment, we will also

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<v Speaker 3>have a brand new episode per week before we come

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<v Speaker 3>back from the summer break.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we Yeah? What are they? Which ones? You're recording?

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<v Speaker 1>One with Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>She's how you find out I did speak with Matt

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<v Speaker 3>about it last week.

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<v Speaker 1>You will be recording an ask Gun cut.

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<v Speaker 3>With Matti, is recording an episode with Sherry, and also

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<v Speaker 3>maybe an ask Gun cut with Ben, so that will all.

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<v Speaker 1>Be coming brand new tiar ears over the summer break.

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<v Speaker 2>This might be a really good time to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>what exactly am I recording with Matt or for everybody

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<v Speaker 2>listening now, if you have any questions that you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to ask my husband, you know, like seven year itch,

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<v Speaker 2>is that a thing? Whatever it looks like, send them

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<v Speaker 2>to us in the DMS, and I will ask him

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<v Speaker 2>and we will answer them on this recording that is

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<v Speaker 2>apparently going to happen in the future. Also, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that everybody knows this and it shouldn't come

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<v Speaker 2>as a surprise because I think that there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of gearing up to it thus far. But Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>is next Wednesday, everyone, next Wednesday. I just checked it

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<v Speaker 2>again in my calendar to make sure that I wasn't lying.

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<v Speaker 1>It is literally eight days away. If you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this on Tuesday. Did that just blow me?

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<v Speaker 2>That?

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<v Speaker 3>Just blow your balls offn't even got my boyfriend's present yet, haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet forgot my kids presence, Yet Santa has been lazy

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<v Speaker 2>this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel as though you get to this point of the

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<v Speaker 3>year and we all say, like, look, honestly, I'm crawling

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<v Speaker 3>to the finish line. Like I really feel as though

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<v Speaker 3>I'm army commandoing right now to the finish line. But

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<v Speaker 3>knowing that it's only eight days away causes me more

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<v Speaker 3>stress than I anticipated, because that means that I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to do in that period of time and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even the one hosting Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hosting Christmas, surely it feels worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm so sorry to anyone who also hadn't checked

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<v Speaker 2>their calendar and had kind of just not really put

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<v Speaker 2>a timeline on how close the proximity of Christmas was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was sitting at the airport today. I literally

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<v Speaker 2>flew in this morning for this record from the Gold Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just looking at my calendar trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out when was the next meat raffle at.

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<v Speaker 1>The local RSL club so that I could win myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I Am That's what I was doing at six am

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<v Speaker 2>at the airport this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I love how much trust do you put in the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that you're going to have like good luck syndrome

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<v Speaker 3>and lucky girl syndrome.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry that you're actually going to be the one who

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<v Speaker 1>wins the ham? Is that what happens lucky girls?

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<v Speaker 3>A raffle ticket doesn't guarantee, I know, but I have

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<v Speaker 3>to order one, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But last year we won our pork and our ham

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<v Speaker 2>from the meat raffle at the local RSEL, so I

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<v Speaker 2>had my heart set on it because it came in

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<v Speaker 2>very handy. We host and we have to feed a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of pimmy very hammy. I thought, this year, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go every time that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>meat raffle until we've won our hams. But I realized

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<v Speaker 2>I left it too late and there's no more meat raffles,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have to go and buy the ham this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's real. Anyway, I've got that. I'm pretty sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you should have already ordered it because you might get lucky. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>How were the carols last night? They looked lit the carols?

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<v Speaker 2>It was so good. Nobody does the carols like the

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<v Speaker 2>surface Paradise page. To say that I am paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Nana is good. It's the truth. I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bondai Ones I went to the Paddington Ones. We are

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<v Speaker 1>like Carol.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say Carol sluts because my kids are involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Do get around when it comes to the Carols. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Surface Paradise ones are so good. They even ended

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<v Speaker 2>with the eight o'clock fireworks. The kids it was like

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<v Speaker 2>they'd gone to Utopia. So when you're at the Carols,

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<v Speaker 2>they obviously have like the back of house area where

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<v Speaker 2>everyone has their kind of like tents to get ready in,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had.

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<v Speaker 1>Green rooms the carols. They had like little green rooms

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<v Speaker 1>for the Carols.

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<v Speaker 2>And the girls were in their little green rooms and

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<v Speaker 2>a little tent next to us was Emma Memma, and

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<v Speaker 2>they just sat there so completely enthralled. And Emma Watkins

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<v Speaker 2>is she I don't think that like she's not like

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<v Speaker 2>a normal human. She's literally like Sunshine personified. The way

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<v Speaker 2>she speaks, the way she is, it's not just a

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<v Speaker 2>stage thing like it is actually her. She is the

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<v Speaker 2>most lovely person. It's like she floats. She doesn't even walk,

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<v Speaker 2>she just floats down the road. You get a girl

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<v Speaker 2>crash on Mmmo, I think I'm in love with Emma Memmo.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say we should have her on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe that would get a bit strange.

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<v Speaker 1>What I also love about that is that they do

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock fireworks.

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<v Speaker 3>With one of my friends yesterday, and I've realized that

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<v Speaker 3>for New Years this year, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Really care about the whole midnight thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to spend New Years together last year, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>you and I did at your house.

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<v Speaker 1>You left early. What time were you there too?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>You were there to night.

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<v Speaker 3>We came back, yeah, and we watched the fireworks altogether.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad it was such a memorable experience. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually realized that this year, I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>going to do the nine o'clock ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it doesn't say much for us, does it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've gotten to the stage of life where you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, I'll reach the nine o'clock ones, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'll just go to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't bring the new year in a better way

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<v Speaker 3>than getting nine hours of solid rem.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleep in true Keisha style. And you always want to

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<v Speaker 2>kick off a new year right, you know. The thing is, though,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you're in your twenties or when you're younger.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe also sometimes I think for some people who are

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<v Speaker 2>single as well that there's this like real feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to miss out on something, so

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<v Speaker 2>you want to plan a big New Years. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do feel like every single time I have planned a

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's it has been a disappointed It's never met

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<v Speaker 2>up to the expectation or the hope that I had

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<v Speaker 2>for the night and what the night could be. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you're always left so late. It's like three o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, you can't get a fucking taxi, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't get home. You're walking four kilometers through the city

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<v Speaker 2>to just to try and get to your house.

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<v Speaker 3>You've kissed this random dude, you didn't even lie, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, you're not even slightly attractive to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't just want to be standing here while everyone

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<v Speaker 3>else is in the couple's kissing.

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<v Speaker 2>But good if you're a random dude, though, get out there,

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<v Speaker 2>get amongst it.

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<v Speaker 1>You might get lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, coming home this morning, so I left the carrols.

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<v Speaker 2>I woke up at four point thirty this morning in

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<v Speaker 2>the Gold Coast. I got on the very first flight

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Gold Coast and into Sydney, and I

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<v Speaker 2>fell asleep on the plane, and I, in true lawa fashion,

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<v Speaker 2>I fell asleep with my mouth wide open like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen you cash flies on planes before.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first row with my head against the window,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a spare seat in between us, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the aisle seat there was a man sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and he was you know, he was just said, mining

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<v Speaker 2>his own business, doing his own thing. And a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times I like, you know, when you're so tired,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you might hit a bit of turbulence or

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<v Speaker 2>something's moved and your head just goes bong and you

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<v Speaker 2>do the.

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<v Speaker 1>Full head help yourself to being awake.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like you get like momentary whiplash because you

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<v Speaker 2>bang your head forward and back. So I did that

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of times, and I looked around, really startled,

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked and he would then look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd go back to sleep. And we come into

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<v Speaker 2>land in Sydney and everyone's getting their stuff and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>and he turns around. He looks at me and he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, do you have a podcast?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was gonna say, excuse me, were you

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<v Speaker 3>on stage with Emmin MIMML last night?

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, do you have a podcast. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's called laughe on cut. He's like, yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're I mean your discussion group. My wife listens to

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<v Speaker 2>your podcast every day. I was like, oh, please tell

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<v Speaker 2>her that I slept with my mouth open to this

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<v Speaker 2>entire flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I also with my shoes off on my foot on

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<v Speaker 2>the seat. What a fucking grub.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how you just said the mm memmer, She's like, sunshine,

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<v Speaker 3>she fly, You're sleepy, tired, chaos consistently, it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>a performance for the podcast, it is actually who you are,

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<v Speaker 3>so at least it was.

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<v Speaker 1>On brand true.

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<v Speaker 2>So mmma floats and I'm dragging myself across the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Told me I wasn't allowed to say it last week,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna say it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the scene, you know the scene people say

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<v Speaker 1>to us that we sometimes are too careful of what

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<v Speaker 1>we think are going to get as canceled with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually want you know the scene from Forest Gump where

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<v Speaker 2>the guy has had his legs blown off and he's

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<v Speaker 2>dragging himself through the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I feel at the moment, And is that

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<v Speaker 1>going to get me canceled? Maybe you're on your own here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an active decision that you have made. You've

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<v Speaker 3>chosen to put this in here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your own. I wish you the best of las.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, something going on in my life is that I

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<v Speaker 3>have finally, after over two years, decided to get myself

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<v Speaker 3>a brand new phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I having problems.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ask Apple, I was not having any problems

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<v Speaker 3>because they traded it in and there was nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>The battery was fine. Apple knows the battery wasn't fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They do it on purpose. They did get into trouble

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<v Speaker 1>at one point for doing that. But I had an

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we're now up to the iPhone sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've realized that there was this really strange thing in

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<v Speaker 3>my mind, and it was the first time I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>noticed that I kind of partook in a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>like allegiance with a certain strange thing. And I've realized

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<v Speaker 3>that I am dedicated and I am loyal to the

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<v Speaker 3>even numbered iPhones.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, oh, iPhone sixteen? Is there? What

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<v Speaker 1>number we aret?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>We're at sixteen now, so I've now got a sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've realized that over the course of however long

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<v Speaker 3>I've had an iPhone, which would have to be god,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, maybe fourteen years or like.

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<v Speaker 1>To at least twelve years now.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only ever had even numbered iPhones.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's an iPhone fourteen pro.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, are you are also the type of person who

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't alleged because I've seen this with certain things where

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, when they have their TV volume,

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<v Speaker 3>they will have to have it on either an even

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<v Speaker 3>or an odd number, and whatever they are like loyal to,

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<v Speaker 3>they stick to that.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have it for even numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not usually that type of person who gets

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<v Speaker 3>hung up on little details like that, but I simply

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<v Speaker 3>refused to switch to an odd numbered iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the fact that, like an iPhone has

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<v Speaker 2>about a two year bandwidth, right, or like eighteen months

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and so by the time you're ready to

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<v Speaker 2>get one, you're just not back on an even number,

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<v Speaker 2>right there's a new one that comes out, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a new one that comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Out almost every year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know enough about iPhones, but I've had this

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<v Speaker 2>one for way too long now, and it's also dying

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<v Speaker 2>and if we're gonna complain about iPhones, the real thing

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<v Speaker 2>we should be complaining about is a new photo update

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone hates.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did that? Who did that? Everyone in the world hates.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not seen one single post about people going, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually really like that. It's now scattered as anything,

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<v Speaker 3>and it can't work out how the folders work.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you guys doing? I remained loyal to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that I I skipped the fourteen, but then

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of going to a fifteen to me just

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<v Speaker 3>felt I.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt really uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt dirty, I felt like I was switching to

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<v Speaker 3>a different team, and I just didn't do it. I

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<v Speaker 3>just held out with the iPhone twelve for so long

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<v Speaker 3>that I have to charge it three times a day,

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<v Speaker 3>and the camera didn't work. I couldn't zoom because one

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<v Speaker 3>of the cameras I dropped it in a crack, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a real.

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<v Speaker 2>Hurdle for someone who works in like an audio medium

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<v Speaker 2>where you actually need your phone and actually need a camera.

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<v Speaker 1>But case she really persevered for so long. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's because of this weird loyalty thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm realizing that maybe this is a bit strange and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that maybe this would be relatable to people,

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<v Speaker 3>but perhaps I am on my own. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>is a particularly niche Also, sorry to all the Samsung

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<v Speaker 3>and Google phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's particularly niche.

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<v Speaker 2>However, I'm sure there's somebody else out there who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to reflect and be like, oh yeah, I only also

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<v Speaker 2>stuck to an even number.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where we had this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>We had this conversation earlier in the year when we

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<v Speaker 3>spoke about big laptop purchases and I said that I

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<v Speaker 3>would never make a purchase of three hundred dollars on

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<v Speaker 3>a phone that's a laptop, percho, and you told me

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<v Speaker 3>I was crazy, and the internet was on my side.

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<v Speaker 2>I also told you that that was a particularly niche

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and it ended up making international news.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, I'm cool to be wrong. I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one thing we're not wrong about.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the fucking photo app, because everyone is raging about

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<v Speaker 2>it at the moment, and I just wonder who the

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<v Speaker 2>person was that worked on the back end of that,

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<v Speaker 2>that worked on like the IT infrastructure, And when this

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<v Speaker 2>looks good, yep, they're gonna not be able to find

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<v Speaker 2>anything they want at any point in time, but I

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<v Speaker 2>reckon that they'll enjoy spending more time in the photo app.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's reminiscent of someone who's had a to

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<v Speaker 3>do list for like the last six months, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>they've had to have it done by Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's been on their with and they finally were

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<v Speaker 1>like it.

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<v Speaker 3>All and they went, I fully forgot. I completely forgot

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<v Speaker 3>about that entire thing that I was supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just I'm just gonna do this is what

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing. And they just basically said, just remove any

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<v Speaker 3>of the formatting that previously used.

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<v Speaker 2>But also remove any of the formatting that actually makes

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<v Speaker 2>intuitive sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you reckon that person got fired? I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like if there's any redundancy that should have happened, it's

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<v Speaker 3>probably to the person who did.

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<v Speaker 1>The photo update.

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<v Speaker 2>But talking of restructuring, also off the back of that,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking about how no one likes the restructure, we have

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<v Speaker 2>some big changes coming in twenty twenty five to Life

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<v Speaker 2>on Cut, and I know that it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>situations where people don't necessarily like change when it very

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<v Speaker 2>first happens, which is why we wanted to give you

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<v Speaker 2>guys as much warning about this as possible, and also

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of explain the reasons why we're making these

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<v Speaker 2>adjustments to the podcast. You guys will probably remember a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months ago, we did a quite a big

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<v Speaker 2>survey around what it is that you're enjoying about the pod,

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that you're not enjoying as much, all

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<v Speaker 2>the changes that you would like to make.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, I was really flatted and I was

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<v Speaker 3>so touched by the amount of people that went out

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<v Speaker 3>of their way.

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<v Speaker 1>It only took a couple of minutes to fill out

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<v Speaker 1>the survey, but we just asked you to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it like you didn't get anything out of it

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<v Speaker 3>other than having your say, And we got over four

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<v Speaker 3>thy five hundred responses, which was such a huge data

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<v Speaker 3>set that enabled us to really know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what you guys were liking the most.

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<v Speaker 2>The structural changes that we're making, and at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>like you guys don't necessarily know this, but we work

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<v Speaker 2>every Sunday in order to be able to bring you

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<v Speaker 2>the Tuesday episode, so we record it on Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 2>but in order to have everything prepped and ready to go,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to do that on a Sunday So the

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<v Speaker 2>changes that we're also making aren't just because they're structural

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<v Speaker 2>changes that will work for you, but they are also

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<v Speaker 2>changes that will allow us to have longevity and to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to keep creating the podcast, because I know,

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<v Speaker 2>like at the moment, it's really hard for everyone to

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<v Speaker 2>show up every single Sunday Sunday afternoon from three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all back on our laptops and working into the evening,

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<v Speaker 2>and we want to be able to have not just

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing product, but also have the life balance that

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<v Speaker 2>goes along with that, especially now because we have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to create that structure and we're making these changes anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>And in order to do that, we knew that we

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<v Speaker 3>would have to change the days that we were dropping

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<v Speaker 3>content because we want things to be as up to

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<v Speaker 3>date as they possibly can be. So next year we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to still have the three episodes that we

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<v Speaker 3>currently drop, but they're going to drop on different days.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are going to drop an episode on a Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>on a Wednesday, and on a Friday morning. And we've

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<v Speaker 3>decided to switch up the order of the episodes. Because

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<v Speaker 3>it came in very loud and clear that ask gun

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<v Speaker 3>Cut was your favorite episode pretty unanimously. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was over seventy percent of people that was their favorite episode.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna give that to you first thing Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can go into your whatever your Monday looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>If you get a bit of Monday itis, hopefully it

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<v Speaker 3>will be alleviated a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>By having something that you like listening to.

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<v Speaker 3>We are going to drop what is currently on a

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday on a Wednesday, So that's the personal life catch

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<v Speaker 3>ut where Britain Lauri to talk about what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>in their life. We often talk about something that's going

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<v Speaker 3>on in the news, things that we find.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny, Like it's basically this episode will be happening on

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<v Speaker 2>a Wednesday now, so we're just shifting it one day.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the interview based episode, where we talk to

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<v Speaker 3>someone who might be an expert in the field or

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<v Speaker 3>a topic that we've really wanted to unpack.

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<v Speaker 1>Or someone who has a really interesting and incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Story, someone that you just love and think is really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Those interviews are going to drop on a Friday, so

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<v Speaker 3>you can go into your weekend having a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>of a like deep and meaningful conversation to listen to.

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<v Speaker 2>The feedback that we were having was dropping on a Tuesday, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday just meant that so much content was coming out

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of you didn't have time to actually

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<v Speaker 2>listen to all of it. So these changes have been

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<v Speaker 2>really considered, and we've spent a lot of time sort

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<v Speaker 2>of fleshing out what is the best thing for the

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<v Speaker 2>way in which we structure life on Cut and for ourselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're so excited for what twenty twenty five is

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring.

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<v Speaker 3>So these changes will be starting. So your first Monday

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<v Speaker 3>Ask Gun Cut will be starting on the twentieth of January.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when we're coming back from our Christmas break.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I said at the start of this, you'll actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Have some brand new content to listen to over the

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<v Speaker 3>summer as well. Speaking of kind of schedule changes, can

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<v Speaker 3>I do accidentally unfiltered?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Can we just jump into it? Because I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an American woman who I don't want to assume age,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would say that she would be roughly sixty five,

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<v Speaker 3>And the caption on TikTok says, my grammy finally decided

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<v Speaker 3>to download a dating app, and this is how it's going,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's sitting there showing her granddaughter how her dating

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<v Speaker 3>app is going. And this is what she said, Hello, Gary.

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<v Speaker 5>Nice to meet you. I love the picture of you

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<v Speaker 5>on the swing. Looks like fun and I love to

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<v Speaker 5>swing too. So I said that yesterday and then today

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<v Speaker 5>I mean read it and I go, oh, my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is what I said back to me. I said, Hi, Gary,

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<v Speaker 5>I just I just saw that I I labeled myself

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<v Speaker 5>as a swinger. So sorry, I am not a swinger,

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<v Speaker 5>the complete opposite. To be honest with you, I apologize

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<v Speaker 5>for my bad choice of words, and I hope this

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<v Speaker 5>goes oh it should have been. Does does not deter

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<v Speaker 5>you from reaching out to me. Have a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's weird, whether the fact that she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm sorry, I labeled myself a swinger, or

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<v Speaker 2>she replied by saying I like to swing too.

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<v Speaker 1>What seventy year old lady wants to sit on a

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<v Speaker 1>swing and swing?

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<v Speaker 6>She just said, I like the photo of your swing,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I like to swing to you look adventurous,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, and just picturing those ones in Bali,

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<v Speaker 6>you know how they've got those massive, big swings, that

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<v Speaker 6>you can go on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not so much about the picture, it's about the reply.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what is something that's so embarrassing that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand? And this is be going back and

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<v Speaker 3>have to be like between six and eight years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon, you do want a hinge how you can

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<v Speaker 3>select your political like who you vote for, whether you're

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<v Speaker 3>conservative or your liberal.

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<v Speaker 1>So before I knew what the actual word.

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<v Speaker 3>Liberal meant, which is progressive, which is what every other

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<v Speaker 3>country in the world calls their progressive party.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in Australia, our more conservative.

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<v Speaker 3>Party is called the Liberal Party, and so I used

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<v Speaker 3>to think that it meant that.

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<v Speaker 2>They voted for the Liberal Imagine how many people you

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<v Speaker 2>would have write swiped because you were like, our political

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<v Speaker 2>views don't a line I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>Myself as a left leaning queen, and I just would

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<v Speaker 3>have been like, no, oh gosh, we're never gonna get along,

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<v Speaker 3>because I also used to think that I wanted someone

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<v Speaker 3>who had the same political views as me, and I

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<v Speaker 3>used to just left left left.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out it could have been my dream man.

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<v Speaker 2>No. But the thing is is, I think for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people in Australia who maybe don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>difference of that either maybe they are actually liberal.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta run the risk this is true. They're Australian,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're using Australian terminology.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that obviously it means different things in different places,

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<v Speaker 2>but you would assume that most the people who were

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<v Speaker 2>putting that in. If they're Australian, maybe are actually liberal.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't say much because it was no Labor Party on there.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's a risk. The only thing I misinterpreted

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<v Speaker 2>from memory when I was on dating apps is I

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<v Speaker 2>went through this period and hear me out where I

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<v Speaker 2>received a request from several different profiles. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>over the duration of about six months, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just one time. So I was receiving the request from

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<v Speaker 2>guys asking me to peg them, which I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what was in my profile that would have given them

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<v Speaker 2>the indication that I liked pegging. The problem is is

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what pegging was. I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going back like fifteen years ago, mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when I was on the dating apps, was.

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<v Speaker 3>There like a photo waundry basket and a bunch of pegs?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what pegging is?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I know what pegging is, but I'm putting you to

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<v Speaker 3>this woman who was saying I like to swing too.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there was nothing on there that would have implied

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<v Speaker 2>I just maybe it was a thing at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was a trend.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I can count on. Well, I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>I got about five requests for people asking me to

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<v Speaker 2>peg them on dating apps in a very short period

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<v Speaker 2>of time, So after the.

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<v Speaker 3>Second one, you didn't think to do a read of

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<v Speaker 3>the room and ask the people around you, Hey, I

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<v Speaker 3>keep on getting.

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<v Speaker 2>This weird request wasn't because of my dating app, though

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was actually because of my profile.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I'm saying it was in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where I didn't really know what it was it was

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 2>being asked of me is because so the first few

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:56.640
<v Speaker 2>times they weren't even people they would have like pegged.

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<v Speaker 1>I replied to or interacted with.

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<v Speaker 2>But then this one guy who I had been chatting

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<v Speaker 2>with for a little while was like, hey, would you

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<v Speaker 2>peg me? And I was like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that means, but was being really agreeable at the time

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<v Speaker 2>and was like sure. Then went to my girlfriend, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is where I might have just been asked to

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<v Speaker 2>peg this guy, what does this mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, and then she explained it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably should unpack why I'm giving off pegging vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>It is strange to me that so many if you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a photo.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a strap on.

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<v Speaker 3>Or a bunch of pegs on your profile, it is

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<v Speaker 3>strange to me that you could somehow give off the

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<v Speaker 3>vibe that you would be enthusiastic about pegging, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what that looks like, short of having photos

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of implied that you were into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got asked a lot of times, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>started to think that maybe it was normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been asked? I've asked? Don't know you No, Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>just me, lucky me, just you? Did I not look

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 1>as though I was athletic enough. I think it's the

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 1>broad shoulders on me. They really gave up peg vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I am constantly underestimated when playing sport

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, I could peg you, dough.

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<v Speaker 3>Why wasn't I asked to peg? Did you not think

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.399
<v Speaker 3>I had the hYP mobility? Did you not think I

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<v Speaker 3>had the stamina? Because they do this happens a lot

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 3>every single Tuesday afternoon. I am underestimated by the very

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.160
<v Speaker 3>fit twenty three year old boys who we play against.

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<v Speaker 3>I have got two tries in the past few weeks

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<v Speaker 3>because they genuinely could see it in their eyes that

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<v Speaker 3>they looked at me and they went.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a bit lazy. She's not able to she's

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<v Speaker 1>fun and you don't need to worry about it. I

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:38.880
<v Speaker 1>can peg them like a queen. Fuck you. I could

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:39.399
<v Speaker 1>have pegged you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I might check in the accidentally and filter that

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 3>we were saying that I thought was really funny, because

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<v Speaker 3>this is so something that would happen to me. I

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<v Speaker 3>was walking my dog with my partner one morning not

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<v Speaker 3>long after accountcil pick up. You know the street ones

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:52.879
<v Speaker 3>where you can put all of your stuff out on

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<v Speaker 3>the street and they come.

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<v Speaker 1>And collect it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a heap of games on the side of

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<v Speaker 3>the path, including Monopoly, which we didn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>I was stoked. I picked it up. I opened the

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<v Speaker 1>box and I checked that it had all of these pieces.

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 3>When a guy came running out of an apartment and shouted,

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 3>what are you doing. It turns out that they were

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<v Speaker 3>moving in and there was a moving truck parked right

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<v Speaker 3>outside fair Nah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is an easy mistake to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also think like, if you're moving, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>just leave the games.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to like that's kid, that shit contained.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel as I've seen people put signs on their

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<v Speaker 3>things being like we are moving. This is not free

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 3>because people like me, I love street furniture. There is

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that gets my dopamine higher than finding a piece

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 3>of furniture on the side of the road that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can fix that.

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<v Speaker 2>There are two types of people right There are the

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 2>people who would just pass it by because they're just like,

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<v Speaker 2>not not for me. And then there are the people

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<v Speaker 2>that would make their partner stand there while they go

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<v Speaker 2>get the car yeah, or they will stand there while

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<v Speaker 2>someone goes and gets a vehicle appropriate to pick it up.

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<v Speaker 3>There was this one time I was walking down to

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<v Speaker 3>the beach for a swim. This when I lived in

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<v Speaker 3>Bondai and there was such a good desk and I

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<v Speaker 3>said to my friend Aily, I was like, oh, look,

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 3>how good that desk is. I need a desk. I'm

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 3>in the market for a desk. I was about to

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<v Speaker 3>buy one that'll be perfect, and she said We'll just

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 3>go for a quick swim and then I'll help you

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:14.959
<v Speaker 3>on the way back up.

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll help you carry it back to your house. You're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be gone.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, of course, I lost my chance at my

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 3>free dream desk and I had to pay.

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 2>For I still think about a chair that once upon

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a time was in Bondai that I wanted my boyfriend

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 2>at the time to go and get a car to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it home. It was like a velvet green chair

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, absolutely fucking not. He's like, you

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>can go get the car. So I like ran home,

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>got the car, came back gone because I was at

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 2>the time taking home a lot of street furniture and

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 2>he was like, no more.

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they were actually just moving into the apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, it's just one loan chair out there ready for

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Laura Burn.

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Where real scabs aren't we Yep, but that's all right.

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>The girl out of Warm Gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that we've been talking about in our groued chat recently,

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<v Speaker 2>and it may or not be something that you have

0:24:58.040 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 2>seen and are also familiar with.

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:00.360
<v Speaker 1>There is a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is Lily Phillips. She's twenty three years old

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.399
<v Speaker 2>and she is an only Fans creator, and the reason

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 2>why she has become quite famous is because she has

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 2>set the enormous goal of sleeping with one thousand men

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 2>in twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>This seems to be something that is becoming more and

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>more common. You guys might remember Bonnie Blue. She was

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 2>the very infamous Only Fans creator who really made her

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>mark by saying that she was going to sleep with

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the schoolies boys. She had her visa revote and there

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 2>was so much absolute rage about that situation. But it

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>does seem as though that there is this increasing sort

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 2>of push for content that revolves around setting records for

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>the amount of men that you can sleep with in

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a short period of time. We've spoken about Only Fans

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>quite a few times on this podcast before, and also

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 2>we've interviewed Angela White, who was a prolific porn star,

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>and she even said that she makes the majority of

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>her income via Only Fans Now and it has been

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 2>an incredibly empowering platform for her where she has agency,

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 2>where she owns her content, produces her own content, and

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 2>is able to make an income, you know, without the

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:05.959
<v Speaker 2>same amount of effort that she has to for her

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 2>normal productions. But I guess this conversation around Lily really

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>comes back to a video, a documentary that's been released

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>that shows both sides of this record that she is

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to set, and it really asked the question whether

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 2>or not only fans, the people who are on there

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>are being forced to create content that is more and

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>more sensational in order to get the downloads and in

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 2>order to continue to make this revenue.

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 3>So Josh Peters is the YouTube guy who actually created

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 3>this documentary.

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>It was released a week ago and it has nearly

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<v Speaker 1>four million views.

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 3>It was titled I Slept with one Hundred Men in

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 3>a Day and the documentary is Josh speaking with Lily

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 3>for the majority of it and talking about, you know,

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 3>how she got into OnlyFans. So for a bit of context,

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.479
<v Speaker 3>she started only fans when she was at UNI. She

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 3>now has nine employees, which is a pretty substantial team.

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Josh calls her a businesswoman in the documentary. Her parents

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 3>have always known what she has been up to and

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 3>have always been across the fact that she's creating this

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.239
<v Speaker 3>content and not the nitty gritty details. But they are

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 3>aware and they are still very much in her life.

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.679
<v Speaker 3>She speaks with her mum every day The reason I

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 3>wanted to bring that up is because I think this

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 3>documentary for me was really interesting to examine the stereotypes

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 3>that exist in terms of the reasons why people get

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 3>into sex work and compare that with my own biases

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 3>about what I think about sex work and how the

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 3>world views it as a very shameful career. So the

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 3>documentary starts with some conversations between Josh and Lilly talking

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 3>about her goal of sleeping with one hundred men in

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 3>the one day, and so this is in training for

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 3>this world record attempt that she will be making shortly

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 3>where she wants to sleep with one thousand men in

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 3>a day. They were talking about her motivations, about her fantasies,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 3>about her early only fans career, and how that has

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 3>led her to the point that she wants to kind

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 3>of set herself these challenges and film them for her

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 3>only fans. And this is what she had to say

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 3>ahead of the challenge.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I guess the only thing I'm nervous for is

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:05.680
<v Speaker 7>like for them to have a good time.

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure they enjoyed themselves.

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 4>And not don't come away from it like I feel

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 4>disgusted or that wasn't fun.

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 7>I think other people in the industry definitely look down

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 7>and for doing this, but I think at the end

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.959
<v Speaker 7>of the day, people forget there's also my fantasy and

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 7>this is also something that I'm really enjoying and want

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 7>to do and have wanted to do before I was

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 7>even in the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that I found really interesting in the documentary was

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 3>actually the logistics of how they were organizing the one

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 3>hundred men that were going to be sleeping with Lily

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>on the day. I think it would it were even

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 3>generous to say that it was disorganized as anything, and

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>it seemed to be done by people who who really

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 3>didn't necessarily understand that this could be a risk to

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 3>her safety, it could be a risk to their safety.

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 3>It was done by her assistance. They basically put a

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 3>call out on her only fans and had people submit

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 3>their application that they wanted to be one of the

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 3>one hundred men who slept with Lily. They were to

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>send a photo of themselves alongside with their ID. And

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 3>these were the concerns that Josh Peters, the guy who

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 3>created the documentary, had about the way that they were

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>selecting men.

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 8>The whole thing, I think I'm realizing is actually more

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 8>mental than we originally thought. There are one hundred men

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 8>turning up to have with her for five minutes each

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 8>in a single day. I mean, there's a decent chance

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 8>that one of them is going to be dangerous. One

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 8>of them might have a weapon, have a criminal record,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 8>a few of them will have STIs. Just on a

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 8>basic statistic, you can know that a few of them

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 8>are going to have STIs. So let's just hope those

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 8>condoms are good ones.

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Now, well, what was interesting about these hundred men that

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>were selected to be the men who were going to

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 3>sleep with Lily on this day is that on the

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 3>day of the actual I guess experiment or the challenge

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 3>I guess I could call it, quite a few of

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 3>them pulled out, and so the assistants who were organizing

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 3>this kind of ended up using a referral po with

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 3>the men who were there, and they said, hey, you know,

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.479
<v Speaker 3>if you had a good time and you have a friend,

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 3>do you reckon You could message them, send them where

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>we are, send them the Airbnb details, and get in

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 3>contact with us. Because we've had so many pull out

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>that in order to make this hundred men.

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>We need more men we need more people, and so they.

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Were recruiting kind of like on the spot.

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, she was also saying that like the people who

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>were prioritized were people who had had their STI checks done,

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>but also getting to a point where they didn't have

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>enough people to actually fulfill that one hundred man goal

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>meant that they had to, I guess be more lax

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>with how they found participants. Look, I mean, the reason

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>why we wanted to talk about this isn't so much

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 2>around the goal setting or this astronomical feat of trying

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to sleep with X amount of people in a certain

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.959
<v Speaker 2>amount of time. It's because of a specific part of

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>this interview that has gone very viral, and it's of

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Lily reflecting on that one hundred men experience. She went

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>into it with such a positive Hoyt look, she went

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>into it with such a conviction that she was going

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy the experience, that the experience was a fantasy

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 2>of hers. And then the follow up interview really showed

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>something that felt quite dark in comparison.

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 3>And just for some context, if there are a couple

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 3>of words that are muted in this, that's how the

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 3>documentary had to publish the YouTube, so it might just

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 3>sound a little bit cut to you. And each of

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 3>the men logistically were to be given five minutes to

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 3>spend with Lily. So this is Lily directly after they

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 3>had completed the challenge of one hundred men.

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Just one in, one out.

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it feels intense, like more intense than you thought

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it might.

0:31:38.520 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 4>Definitely. You know, when I talked you last, like I

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 4>was not nervous, and it was like the day before,

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I'm so nervous, but it was good.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 4>It was more I guess the interactions were like I'd

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 4>have to stop them earning and like you'd have to

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 4>stand on business and be like, I'm so sorry you

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 4>got to go, and like the awkward interaction of like

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 4>you feeling pressure to have to make them come if

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 4>like you haven't spent enough time with them, and feeling

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 4>like they didn't like you didn't give them a good

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 4>time because like they only got two minutes and.

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 8>That, and that's what That's what's making you feel emotional,

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 8>is that maybe you think you didn't give some guys

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 8>a good enough time today.

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, And it's hard I think having the interactions

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 4>with them when they're like, well, you're not going to

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 4>make me finish. I've come all this way like kind

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 4>of like guilt tripping me a little bit. I felt bad,

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 4>like some people just travel so far, like I didn't

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>want to give them a shit time and like come

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 4>away from this and be.

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, that's it.

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 4>I think sometimes like feeling so like robotic, like by

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 4>the I think like the thirtieth you know, like when

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 4>we're getting on a bit, I've got like a routine

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 4>of like how we're going to do this, and like

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 4>it just sometimes you'd like disassociate and be like, you know,

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 4>like it's not like normal things at all. In my

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 4>head right now, I can think of like five six

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 4>guys tang guys that I remember, and that's it.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But it's just I don't know. It's just weird, isn't it.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 4>Like if I didn't if I didn't have the videos,

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have known I've done one hundred, you know.

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I think for anyone listening to that audio. When I

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>listened to it the first time, my very first response

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>was how devastating that sounded, and like it makes me

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 2>ask the question right. Often we can have fantasies. Often

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 2>we can think that something is going to be a

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 2>certain way, and then when we actually experience it ourselves,

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the reality of a situation is very, very different from

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 2>what we thought it was going to be. But the

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 2>issue in this situation is almost that Lily can't change

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>her mind about it because it has been so public

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>She has set herself the goal of sleeping with a

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>thousand men. She has so many OnlyFans subscribers, This is

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>how she is now making her income, this is what

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>she has become known for. So it's kind of a

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 2>situation of pressure where she can't go back on the

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 2>goal that has been set. And it's very evident in

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.479
<v Speaker 2>that piece of audio that Lily is quite distressed after

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>sleeping with one hundred men and that it wasn't necessarily

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 2>what she expected it was going to be, and it

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 2>was a lot harder than what she expected it to

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 2>be in her own words. But then she's gone on

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>to do many podcasts and to speak about it publicly,

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 2>to say that she actually did really enjoy the experience,

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>and also that she does still have the goal of

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 2>sleeping with a thousand men. I mean, we've spoken about

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 2>it heaves between the two of us, and also within

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the Life Uncut chat that we have because on one hand,

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>we've had so many conversations about how only Fans can

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 2>be so empowering for some people, and how it has

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 2>been a really empowering platform for many sex workers. But

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I also think it's important to talk about the gray

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 2>and to talk about the t when maybe it isn't empowering.

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 2>And I watch that video and I watch that documentary,

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>and it makes me question whether or not this is

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>empowering for Lily, a twenty three year old OnlyFans creator,

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>whether this is actually doing psychological harm in the long term,

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 2>or whether this is content that in ten twenty years time,

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 2>or even directly after she sleeps with this one thousand men,

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 2>that she's not actually going to enjoy.

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I also feel a bit uncomfortable about even thinking about that, because,

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 3>on one hand, she's twenty three years old, she has agency,

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, she's not being pressured into this by any

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 3>external factors other than some that we may get to

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 3>that we think could be going on psychologically, And.

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>So a part of me is just like, what's.

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 3>My place to have an opinion on this, you know, absolutely,

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 3>And then the other part of me watches the documentary

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 3>and I was really really taken back by how much

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I felt for her, and I was trying to understand

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 3>why that might be the case, and I was like, well,

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>she's not a Victim's chosen to get herself into this position.

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>She said that this is her fantasy. But it really

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 3>did make me think about and I think all of

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 3>us may have been in a situation like this before,

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 3>where we've set ourselves a goal of you know, we

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 3>wanted to achieve something, and whether that be that you

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 3>want to run a marathon, or whether it be that

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 3>you want to do a certain thing for your job,

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 3>or whatever it is, and you can find yourself in

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.839
<v Speaker 3>the situation and you realize like, actually, this is so

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 3>not what I thought it was going to be. But

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 3>I can't back out now. I can't back out because

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I've told people that I was going to achieve it.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 3>In Lily's case, she has literally traded a certain subscription

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 3>fee telling people this is what I'm going to do.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 3>And I think that the pressure of that would be

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 3>pretty overwhelming, because not only would she almost have to.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Hate saying the word face up to the fact that maybe.

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 3>The experience wasn't what she thought, but there is also

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 3>a possibility that that was just her immediate reaction.

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>She was really exhausted.

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 3>She was going at it quite literally for fourteen hours.

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 3>She'd had to have multiple showersout the day. She was

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 3>probably phys very very exhausted for sure, And so I

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 3>don't want to kind of go, well, that's actually how

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 3>she you know, we just got insight into how she

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 3>actually feels about it.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Or because it kind of is like affirmation bias, right,

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Like we already know that the industry, there is so

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>much dehumanizing that goes on. There is so much shame

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 2>that is like completely enshrouded in the sex industry, and

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the pendulum is swinging. Like we have had many conversations

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 2>around how people don't just get into sex work because

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>they're impoverished, or because it is an absolute need, or

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>there's addiction issues, which I think used to be the

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>real mentality. People thought, surely people would only do this

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 2>for a job because they had to, And we know

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 2>that the mentality around that is changing and that there

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 2>are so many people who get into this work because

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 2>they want to. But I guess the big part of

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>this is seeing Lily so upset after setting herself this

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 2>goal and going through with the one hundred men, knowing

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>that she has the goal of a thousand It's like,

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 2>is it affirmation bias that part of the documentary where

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>when you see her upset, You're like, Aha, I knew

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 2>you would regret this. You have confirmed to me that

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the way I feel about what you're doing is correct.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Or is it actually, just like you said, kish, a

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 2>natural reaction to something that is akin to a marathon.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Many people who do wildly physical activities cry throughout doing

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 2>those physical activities or don't love doing them whilst they're

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 2>in the midst of that goal setting. And I want

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to be really careful about making this comparison. I know

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 2>you laugh because I'm like, it sounds world's apart, but

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 2>just hear me out on the theory around there.

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 3>It's because when we were talking about this, when you

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 3>first said the name that you're about to say, I

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 3>was like, what are you talking about it?

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And then when you explained it, I was like, oh no,

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I so get what you mean.

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So hear me out ned Brockman recently.

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>He's going to be thrilled. But I'm talking about him

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 2>He's going to be sleeping with a thousand men and

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>he's certainly not no, but he recently. I mean, as

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>you guys might be familiar with Ned Brockman, he's an incredible,

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 2>incredible man who has raised so much money for homelessness

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 2>by his man marathons. So he ran from Perth to Bondai.

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>He also recently did a new challenge which was running

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>one hundred kilometers a day for sixteen days. Ridiculous, right,

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and all of Australia got behind him in doing this.

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>There were many many.

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Moments throughout his marathon where he was crying, where he

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 2>was swearing, where he looked very displeased that he was

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>doing it, and he absolutely continued on. I think it's

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 2>definitely a fast stretch to compare a physical marathon to

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a sex marathon and like have those things kind of

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>like sit within the same realm or the same even

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.439
<v Speaker 2>within the same hemisphere. But I guess what I'm trying

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 2>to say is that nobody questioned Ned Brockman crying. Nobody

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>was like, Aha, see you regret doing this, you hate this.

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 2>But that has been our natural reaction to Lily doing this,

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>seeing her crying on that documentary, the instant reaction is

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 2>to think, oh my god, are you going to regret this,

0:39:58.160 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Is this the worst decision that you have made for

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you yourself? And I guess it is because there is

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity or there is a possibility that she will.

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 2>But it's also not our place to have that fear

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 2>for her because it is the decision that she's making

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 2>for herself.

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I think also this is where we get into the

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 3>realm of concern trolling, where like faux concern. If you

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 3>look on Elily's Instagram, which I did last night, and

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 3>my god, I regret doing it. It was an absolute

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 3>cess pit. The shame being put onto her was quite

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:28.800
<v Speaker 3>literally disgusting. There's an amount that no matter how primed

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 3>and prepped you were, no matter if you'd grown up

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 3>with this your entire life, I don't think we are

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 3>ever psychologically able to handle that amount of scrutiny from

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 3>the world. And I truly felt for her in that moment.

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 3>But I really I thought about this internally of why

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 3>I had this deep amount of concern for her, given that,

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, she has all of the things similar

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 3>to Ned where she'd set herself, the challenge, she'd achieved,

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 3>the challenge that she went out there for. She showed emotion,

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 3>but NED did too, you know, why did I feel

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 3>like it was different? And I got myself into a

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 3>little bit of a rabbit hole when when she said

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 3>that she felt like she dissociated. You know, she could

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 3>only really remember six of the men out of the hundred,

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 3>or six to ten of the men, And if she

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't have the footage of that experience, she wouldn't have

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 3>really thought that it actually had occurred. And I did

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 3>go a little bit deep on this because I thought,

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's why I feel so uncomfortable about it. Maybe

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 3>it's the fact that she feels as though to accomplish

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 3>this challenge she has to literally feel an outer body experience.

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't want to feel physically connected to it herself.

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 3>And I did a bit of research and Stanford Medicine

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 3>said that between two and ten percent of the population

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 3>will experience the phenomenon known as dissociation during their lives,

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 3>but that dissociation usually occurs as a result of trauma, hypnosis,

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 3>or certain drugs.

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 1>And this is where I thought, ooh, maybe this is.

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Why I feel so deeply uncomfortable about this. She's obviously

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 3>not under the influence of drugs. She's not under hypnosis.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Do I feel uncomfortable because I actually think she could

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 3>be causing quite serious psychological trauma to herself. You know,

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 3>she said that she has dissociated in the experience and

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 3>that she wants to time that experience by tenfold. She

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 3>wants to up it to one thousand men. Do I

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 3>see a young woman, someone who's twenty three years old,

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 3>making choices that I think could have very serious psychological

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 3>impacts for them long term. Maybe maybe that's why I

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 3>actually feel concerned for Lily, and I hope that that's

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 3>the case, because I don't think that we can ever

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 3>completely separate ourselves from the fact that, you know, most

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 3>of the trolling that was going on on her Instagram

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 3>was like, Wow, I bet your parents are proud of you.

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>There was such slut.

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Shaming that I think we've all become somewhat accustomed to

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 3>as we were growing up, and you know, we were

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.439
<v Speaker 3>told to worry about body counts, and we were told

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 3>to think of ourselves as pure and saving ourselves for

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 3>the right person. I don't think I can ever fully

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 3>remove myself from those messages, even though we have spent

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 3>so long really pushing the narrative in the opposite.

0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Direction, yeah, and trying to unpick it.

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I guess I landed on the

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 3>fact that maybe Lily actually was involved in this experience

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 3>because she felt the pressure to live up to a

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>goal that she had created for herself, even though she

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 3>was putting herself through a lot of psychological stress. And

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it would be normal if you didn't

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 3>have care for that. I don't think it would be

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 3>normal to see that and see how upset she was

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 3>and not feel as though you had some type of

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 3>sympathy for her that you know, she might not be

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 3>a victim in the sex industry how we typically used

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 3>to think of victims, But maybe she's a victim to

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.959
<v Speaker 3>the algorithms now, maybe she's a victim to the fact

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 3>that we have to have more outrageous and out their

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.399
<v Speaker 3>content to draw people in.

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:40.879
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess the big question is is this empowering?

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>That has always been the question around OnlyFans, and it

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>has really been like the thing that's set it apart

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>in so many ways is that OnlyFans was and is empowering.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 2>I think of creators like Bonnie Blue. I know we've

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 2>mentioned her a couple of times, she talks about the

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 2>experiences that she's had, and I've listened to so many

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 2>podcast episodes where she speaks around it being something that

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>she wants to do, she feels empowered by it, she

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 2>enjoys it. She has never outwardly or publicly at least

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 2>spoken in a negative way. And I think that this

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 2>is the first time where we have seen a creator

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>like this. Actually I take that back. It's the second

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.240
<v Speaker 2>time that we have seen a creator like this speak

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 2>about an experience and show negative reactions to what they've

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>just gone through. And the other person that I want

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 2>to talk about very quickly is Lisa Sparks. So, Lisa

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Sparks is the sex worker who has the record for

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.280
<v Speaker 2>the most men slept with in a twenty four hour period.

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.720
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and four, She's slept with nine hundred

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and nineteen men in one day. At a sex industry

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 2>event in Poland. Now, interestingly, Lisa, who was in the

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>industry for literally twenty five years, came out and said,

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 2>to be completely transparent with you all. This event is

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I regret doing in my twenty three

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 2>plus years in the porn industry to this day. This

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.800
<v Speaker 2>was also the only job that I agreed to perform

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>strictly for the money. I think that that is such

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 2>an interesting and important quote, because I think it's fine

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 2>to kind of think, Okay, well, look, she's she's setting

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 2>these parameters for herself, she's making these decisions. But if

0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 2>those decisions are purely based on the fact that she's

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>now occurring a huge amount of subscribers and is making

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 2>millions and millions of dollars off the back of it,

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I do question, like will money be enough to resolve

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>any sort of residual feeling of like I didn't want

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>to be doing this, but the money was good enough.

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>And I also it kind of makes me question, like

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 3>removing the fact that we've said, you know, only fans

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.919
<v Speaker 3>enabled empowerment of women, particularly in the sex industry, at

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 3>what point does someone step in, Because if these women

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 3>are working for themselves, there's no referee, there's no one

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 3>who's there to say we're going too far, like we've

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 3>actually pushed the boundaries too much, you're not cope with this,

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 3>And I wonder whether we've replaced that with the public

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 3>who were the subscribers, you know, I kind of equate

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 3>that pressure of the expectation to now being well, we

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 3>have things like AI porn a lot more accessibility to

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 3>this type of content, and therefore the goalposts do seem

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 3>to keep shifting. You know, with these creators that are

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.240
<v Speaker 3>getting a lot of headlines and a lot of media attention,

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 3>it's because they're doing more and more outrageous things.

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Also, I mean, we talk about people being victims to

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 2>an industry, and you brought up a really important point before, Keisha.

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not being victims to the industry of being a

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 2>sex worker, and I really want to make that clear.

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.720
<v Speaker 2>It's being a victim to content. It's being a victim

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 2>to having to push things further and further in order

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 2>to have the same impact, and that exists in all

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.919
<v Speaker 2>aspects of content creation. I think about people like I mean,

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I think about us, for example, speaking about our lives

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 2>or speaking about personal things and things that when we

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 2>very first started this we were like we would never

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 2>ever talk about. And then years and years down the track,

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you get more comfortable, you become more familiar with the platform,

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 2>you become more familiar with your audience, and that kind

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:16.359
<v Speaker 2>of the bar gets pushed further and further. Now I'm

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 2>not saying that there's ever been a time where I've

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>shared something that I've regretted. I love sharing what I share,

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 2>but I also know that they could come a time

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 2>in the future where one of my kids might say, hey, Mum,

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't like that you shared that story about

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.439
<v Speaker 2>me when I was five, you know, because now it's

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 2>something that lives forever on the Internet, and I didn't

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>ask you to share that. Like, that's a possibility, And

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 2>it is this question of like, well, where is the

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 2>line and when does content and content creation the snowball

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:46.959
<v Speaker 2>effect of it become too much?

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was my overall takeaway from the

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>whole documentary.

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 3>I felt as though Lily does not have control over

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 3>that snowball, and that's my own personal opinion. Other people

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 3>might disagree, and I don't want people to misinterpret that

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 3>as me kind of putting an element of shame onto her.

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 3>I really thought, Wow, I so hope that the next

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 3>business decision you make is that you get a manager

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 3>who genuinely, genuinely gives a fuck about you and is

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>willing to help you establish what.

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:18.759
<v Speaker 1>You are and aren't comfortable with.

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Because I felt as though I saw the dissolving of boundaries.

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 3>You know that one particular thing that really stood out

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 3>to me was how much she cared about the experience of.

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>The men that she was sleeping with.

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Which is like such a for any woman who is

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 2>in their twenties. And I say, actually, it doesn't matter

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 2>what age you are, but I think about this from

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>when I was in my twenties, how much I cared

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 2>about making sure that the person I was with had

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>a good time above my own satisfaction.

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent relate.

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Like the things that I would have done in my twenties,

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 2>the things I did do, which I look back on

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 2>now and go, that would have been a straight up

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.240
<v Speaker 2>fucking no. But I wanted him to have a good time,

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and so I deprioritize my discomfort or my feelings of like,

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>oh that kind of makes me feel icky for his

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>pleasure and my worry, which echoes what you say in this, Keisha,

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:14.880
<v Speaker 2>is that if this is going to be about money

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 2>or be about an experience, the boundaries have to be

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.399
<v Speaker 2>so firm. It's you come in, you get your one

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 2>and a half minutes, your five minutes, whatever it is.

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Because literally, I mean, we've done the maths to sleep

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 2>with a thousand men in twenty four hours. Each man

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>would have one minute and forty seconds. Like, that's a

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 2>boundary that has to be firm in order to reach

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.240
<v Speaker 2>that goal. So it's almost as though they need someone

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.839
<v Speaker 2>there who it doesn't have to be Lily. Lily isn't

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the one saying, hey, you need to leave now, because

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 2>that's almost too much pressure for someone who's already in

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:46.399
<v Speaker 2>quite a vulnerable position to be able to exact those

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 2>sort of boundaries. It's crazy to me how unregulated it

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:53.280
<v Speaker 2>is and how someone who is a creator can simply

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:55.800
<v Speaker 2>be like, all right, everyone just rock up to this address,

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 2>because there are so many elements to it that are

0:49:58.280 --> 0:49:59.200
<v Speaker 2>really unsafe.

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Contrast this with the conversation that you guys had with

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Angela White. Angela White had been in the sex industry

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 3>for quite a while before she started her Only Fence.

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 3>She now has her own production company where she is

0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 3>the one making the rules. You know, she's the one

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.320
<v Speaker 3>saying yes or no, But she also has the considerations

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 3>of things like her safety. She has her boundaries. They

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 3>are firm as anything. You know, her actual words were,

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 3>if it's not a fuck, yes, it's.

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>A no to me.

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 3>And I compare that to Lily, and I think that

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 3>their world's apart. And that's why I think I can

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:34.399
<v Speaker 3>find Angela's work really empowering, and I can say, Wow,

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 3>that's amazing that you're doing this and you're making all

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:38.720
<v Speaker 3>of this money from it. And I look at Lily

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 3>and I think you're in a potentially dangerous situation because

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 3>you don't have any of the infrastructure around you to

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 3>support you, to make sure that you're going to be okay.

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:50.880
<v Speaker 3>And I mean that physically and psychologically.

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, like we said at the very beginning,

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 2>we toyed around whether we should have this conversation or not,

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.359
<v Speaker 2>but we had been speaking about it quite a bit,

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 2>and we were like, you know, when something keeps coming up,

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>it's what makes us realize, Okay, yes, it's definitely something

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>we want to discuss. But the question was whether or

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 2>not talking about this in this light undoes all of

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the really positive conversations that have kind of pushed the

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 2>pendulum into the area of like, Okay, well, look, sex

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 2>workers also have agency, they're not all victims, et cetera,

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But I do think it's really important to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the full spectrum of this and there are

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<v Speaker 2>instances where it sits in the gray, and for us,

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<v Speaker 2>this was definitely one of those discussions that sat within

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<v Speaker 2>the gray. And I think most people who have seen

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<v Speaker 2>that part of this documentary and we will link everything

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<v Speaker 2>in the show notes would feel as uncomfortable as we

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<v Speaker 2>felt overarchingly in the question that we all keep coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to is is this version empowering for women? All Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for us sucking us with Keisha, Petit, Petit Petit?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your suck for the week?

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<v Speaker 3>My suck for the week is that every single year

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I forget that this happens. My car insurance, my private

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 3>health insurance, and my car registration are due on the

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<v Speaker 3>first week of January.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is already a final timing? So bad?

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<v Speaker 3>It's already such a financially stressful time because it's like

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas and you know, you kind of spend up around

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<v Speaker 3>the summer season, right, and I am a good little

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<v Speaker 3>saber like, so it's not like it's not like the

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<v Speaker 3>money's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I'm gonna have to you know, beg,

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<v Speaker 1>borrow and steal.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think just every time it comes around, I

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<v Speaker 3>have that same feeling of like, when are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to start learning to prep better?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that can be my news resolution. I mean, does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone ever follow through?

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<v Speaker 2>By midnext year you realize you haven't done it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that'll be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your sweet for the week? My sweet for

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<v Speaker 1>the week.

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<v Speaker 3>This might sound really lame to so many people, but

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<v Speaker 3>for the past three nights in a row, I've got

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<v Speaker 3>over ninety five percent sleep score on my whoop and

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<v Speaker 3>it brings me so much joy. I got nine hours

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<v Speaker 3>of sleep last night, or right, nine hours.

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<v Speaker 1>And two minutes. Have you seen the thing that's going

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<v Speaker 1>viral the moment?

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<v Speaker 2>The Project did a post on it, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>from a sleep expert who showed a picture of what

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<v Speaker 2>the human body looks like if you consistently have less

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<v Speaker 2>than six hours sleep for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't good. It ain't good. It ain't good.

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<v Speaker 3>And from all of my research into sleep, which is

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<v Speaker 3>actually quite extensive, I'll have you know that if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, you need an extra hour of sleep to

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<v Speaker 3>what your male counterparts do, especially when you MENTIONR eight

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<v Speaker 3>is it actually true?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that post as well your extensive research. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw a couple of Instagram posts.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have listened to a lot of podcasts from

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<v Speaker 3>actual sleep experts, and I will say I feel fucking great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really stressed last week because we had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of work to do. We had a lot of

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 3>like before.

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<v Speaker 1>Britt went over to Romania, and I was not sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>Very well because we were all quite stressed and we

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<v Speaker 3>were all kind of crawling to the finish line.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gone, love you, Britt, But I've been back to

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping like an absolute log and it's been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my suck on the flip side is that I

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<v Speaker 2>was up at four twenty this morning to get a

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<v Speaker 2>plane to come here to do our recording.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that really me to brag about getting nine hours

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<v Speaker 3>of sleep when you've had like three.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's aspirational, if anything. I look at

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<v Speaker 2>that and I'm like, wow, one day, one day, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>To look as fresh.

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<v Speaker 3>You can come sleep at my house and I'll go

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<v Speaker 3>it up and do the midnight like.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuddles with Lola. Were you also fuck my husband? Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not so mud It would be like what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing out fucking ros No.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, if I'm gonna be honest, My actual suck

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<v Speaker 2>this past week was that we had our last episode

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<v Speaker 2>with Mitch, which was so I mean, it was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was really sad. You guys are very across

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, so I don't want to go into

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<v Speaker 2>it too much again, but that was definitely the low light.

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<v Speaker 2>The highlight of the week, however, was that we went

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<v Speaker 2>and we did the Carols in Surface Paradise And this

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<v Speaker 2>was my second year, Matt's third year, and honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm not being paid to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the most special thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the girls come out on stage and sing

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<v Speaker 2>little Song and Lola, so the girls got to come

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<v Speaker 2>out out onto the stage. There is literally like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people. It is crazy. I'm sure it's not twenty thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is like if I looked at the Life

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<v Speaker 2>on Cut live shows, which was two and a half thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been six or seven times that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is insane. How many people are there.

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<v Speaker 2>The beach for as far as you can see, is

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<v Speaker 2>just back to back people and the girls are on

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<v Speaker 2>stage and we were singing we Wish you were Merry

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas with the actual singers because neither matter myself can sing.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lola took the microphone from me and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>wish you were merry Christmas.

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 2>We wish give a little rat rendition, dead pan, really serious,

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 2>just yelling it, we wish you were merry Christmas. And

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<v Speaker 2>she just had so much bravery and I wasn't expecting

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<v Speaker 2>it from her. I was expecting it from Marley, but

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<v Speaker 2>Marley was super shy, she didn't want the microphone nearer,

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<v Speaker 2>and Lola she fucking stepped.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to the plate. But what a cool memory. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually just thinking about the Pink show that

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<v Speaker 3>I went to this year and her daughter comes out

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<v Speaker 3>and sings a song.

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<v Speaker 1>She's actually a really really beautiful singer as well. She

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<v Speaker 1>sings that Sunshine song.

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<v Speaker 3>She actually sings it on the record as well, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was so beautiful to see this, like mom daughter,

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<v Speaker 3>so cool kind of jewet situation. I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about you singing with the girls on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Identical.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd never know the difference anyway, guys, that is it

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<v Speaker 2>from us. Britt and I will be back on Thursday's

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<v Speaker 2>episode for ask Gun Cut and if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>join in the discussion group life and Cut discussion group.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to send your questions in for Ask

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<v Speaker 1>gun Cut, send them on in. It might be getting

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<v Speaker 1>answered by Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>And Laura or Ben and Britt the summer, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is it from us. Gut, tell your mum, tell your dad,

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<v Speaker 3>tell you, don't tell your friends, and share the love

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<v Speaker 3>because we love love