WEBVTT - Live @ Beyond The Valley First Nation’s Yarn With Kee’ahn Bindol

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is brought to you by on Track Studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Yarning Up, the podcast that showcases First Nations

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<v Speaker 2>stories and conversations to help us learn and unlearn Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>history to work towards a better future. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>proud barber woman and founder of Black Waddel Coaching and Consulting,

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<v Speaker 2>Caroline cow. We acknowledge the rundery people and elders where

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast is taped, but we also acknowledge the lands

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<v Speaker 2>that you are listening in from today. It always was

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<v Speaker 2>and always will be unseated aboriginal and tourist Red Islanderland.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, you deadly souls to season four of Yarning Up.

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<v Speaker 2>Your resence here fills my heart with so much pride

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<v Speaker 2>and even more gratitude. It truly means the absolute world

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Back in twenty twenty one, when we embarked

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<v Speaker 2>on this journey, we had no idea what light ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had a vision to amplify the voices, the

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<v Speaker 2>truths and the stories of black people and their families,

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<v Speaker 2>to carve out our own table, to increase representation in

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<v Speaker 2>the media, to amplify the stories that are too often

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<v Speaker 2>untold or woaded down or totally fabricated for the main

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<v Speaker 2>stream white gaze. I wanted to have deadly yarns with

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<v Speaker 2>deadly people to show us in our joy, our anger,

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<v Speaker 2>our resilience, our wisdom, our passion, and our love for

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<v Speaker 2>family and community. Recently, I have been turning to Balahook's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. In fact, I have most of my life

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<v Speaker 2>a profound writer and thinker, and someone who has always

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<v Speaker 2>provided guidance in navigating the horrors of the colony. And

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<v Speaker 2>she once said that community is a place where the

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<v Speaker 2>connections felt in our hearts make themselves known in the

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<v Speaker 2>bonds between people, and where the tuggings and pullings of

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<v Speaker 2>these bonds keep opening our hearts. This show has beautifully

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<v Speaker 2>woven together a community not just of listeners, but of

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<v Speaker 2>social justice warriors, of deep thinkers and feelers and lovers.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a space for those who are eager to

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<v Speaker 2>learn from the oldest culture in the world get to

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<v Speaker 2>foster these connections and these communities that go well beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the airwaves. With all that said, let's get ready to

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<v Speaker 2>dive into another season of inspiration of connection and cannon

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<v Speaker 2>and heartfelt yarns with beautiful black fellows right across this

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<v Speaker 2>country of so called Australia. We are starting this season

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<v Speaker 2>with a live taping can you believe it? A live

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<v Speaker 2>taping at Beyond the Valley, which was held on water

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<v Speaker 2>On Lands on the thirty first of December two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty three. I had the absolute joy and privilege

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<v Speaker 2>to reflect on the year that was with the incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>talented singer, songwriter and performer Kean Bindle. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say a big shout out to the crew at Untitled

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<v Speaker 2>Group who organized this festival Beyond the Valley with thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand patrons every single year. I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for them for inviting us to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of this phenomenal podcast tent. And lastly, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say thank you to you followers once again

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<v Speaker 2>for being a part of this journey. And I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait for this incredible season that lies ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I read online that Indigenous people they don't even want it.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty percent of us do.

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<v Speaker 4>We need a voice, We need that structural change.

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<v Speaker 3>A victory for Yes would indeed make history.

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<v Speaker 2>The ballot paper doesn't begin to capture the complexity of

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what the voice is an Advisory Committee. We can

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<v Speaker 4>embrace the Earlaru statement from the heart for a voice

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<v Speaker 4>came from the people and it will be decided by

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<v Speaker 4>the people.

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<v Speaker 5>Breaking news tonight the referendum for the voice to Parliament

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<v Speaker 5>has been defeated.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be a period of grief and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the whole nation should be grieving opportunity and.

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<v Speaker 5>Asking when is it enough?

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<v Speaker 1>It's hello, have you knew you about?

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<v Speaker 3>The fucker?

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<v Speaker 5>Is since? Wild?

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning? Good morning, Hello, welcome, this is exciting. How's

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<v Speaker 2>everyone feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe on the counter three we'll say how we're all feeling?

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<v Speaker 5>One?

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<v Speaker 2>Two, three, Yeah, I love it, love it. Well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is so crazy. I started this show Yarning up in

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<v Speaker 2>my bedroom like two years ago, in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>like a mad existential crisis, and I had a vision

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<v Speaker 2>to just bring mob and mob stories to non Aboriginal people,

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<v Speaker 2>to learn to laugh, to connect with our knowledges and storages.

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<v Speaker 2>So to be here today is really really exciting, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to get to yan with Sissy Kian.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm so so grateful. Kean is an extremely talented musician, songwriter, performer,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I'm just so grateful that you're here today

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<v Speaker 2>to have a bit of beyond. Well, it's day four

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<v Speaker 2>of the festival, and it's the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to just start with doing a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a mindfulness moment and sort of grounding us here

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<v Speaker 2>on country. And I think it's not until we come

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<v Speaker 2>to places like Beyond the Valley that we realize how

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<v Speaker 2>important land is and how important togetherness and coming together

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<v Speaker 2>for music, and so yeah, I want to do a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a mindful moment, if that's okay for all

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<v Speaker 2>of us. So maybe where you're seated, or if you're standing,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to just take a moment and put

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<v Speaker 2>your feet in country, maybe give a little shake, just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of open yourself up to being held in this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to just begin by acknowledging that we

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<v Speaker 2>gather today in unity as a community unsacred, stolen and

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<v Speaker 2>unseated Aboriginal lands.

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<v Speaker 1>Together.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us honor and recognize the sacredness of this place.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our old antitheater.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where mob used to congregate and welcome and

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<v Speaker 2>come together just like this over thousands of years. This

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<v Speaker 2>is home to the water On peoples and their neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>The Gundi Jamara mobs, and I want to acknowledge them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also want to acknowledge all owners of country.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to acknowledge their.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories, their songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Their customs, their laws, all of which have existed long.

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<v Speaker 1>Before what we now call governments.

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<v Speaker 2>Every day, as black fellows, we honor our old people,

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<v Speaker 2>our ancestors, our families, our creators, and our knowledge keepers

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<v Speaker 2>and teachers, our elders past and present. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge them, their laughter, their spirit and their hard fought legacies.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to acknowledge our young people.

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<v Speaker 2>We see you forging your own paths and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking up the good fight and the good rest in

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<v Speaker 2>new and unprecedented ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to acknowledge you.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to acknowledge every single ally here and

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<v Speaker 2>the six million of you who voted yes to change

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking story in this country. We thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>walking with us and for elevating us and for fighting

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<v Speaker 2>the good fight.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say thank you and acknowledge all of those wonderful people.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I want yeah with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Kia.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year you were on the bill, you performed here yea,

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<v Speaker 2>and this year you're a festival goer. So any festival

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<v Speaker 2>highlights this year so far?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so many.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, it's really nice just being on the other side

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<v Speaker 5>of it, like our first experience last year, like running

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<v Speaker 5>around really keen first, like big kind of yeah music

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<v Speaker 5>festival that we got to play, and then this year

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<v Speaker 5>coming with my friends and Yasi and being a part

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<v Speaker 5>of this, like just being a punter going to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Taylor Lane last night and yeah, seeing the like huge

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<v Speaker 5>crowds of people just run off the dom dollar like

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<v Speaker 5>it was just a spectacle to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, sweet, Yeah, today I'm keen to see I think

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<v Speaker 5>pick Bata are playing today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Pania was amazing yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's a great line up, like really diverse. And

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<v Speaker 5>Miss Kninna was the day before. Did I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>see Miss Canina? Yeah? How was she?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah so good.

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<v Speaker 3>We missed unfortunately but love her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's an amazing thing, toy And like you say,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just such a diverse crowd and diverse lineup of

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<v Speaker 2>talent and yeah, thirty five thousand people, thirty five new

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<v Speaker 2>thousand besties up in the house. So as we do

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<v Speaker 2>on our show, yarning up our show is really, as

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<v Speaker 2>I say, all about black stories.

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<v Speaker 1>And trying to tell them on our terms.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're in a really weird time where we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at truth telling and you know, connecting with people

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<v Speaker 2>and who they are, you know, not what they do,

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<v Speaker 2>but what's going on like in here. So I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start by asking you know, who's your mob and

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<v Speaker 2>where did you grow up and a little bit about yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>your personal story.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you're ladakan Yo Google Alanja, Jitible, Butterleg Bombay

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<v Speaker 5>Madam what and Jeddy Wei Wooong big Bod And I

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<v Speaker 5>I said in yelling ge that my name's Kean. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a proud Yellonge Jitible and Taresha Alander from North Queensland.

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up on Bndala wah Gruguba country called Townsville

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<v Speaker 5>in North Queensland. And I also said that I live

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<v Speaker 5>on n'am which is what and Jeddy Wong country. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and I grew up in Townsville. I just came back

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<v Speaker 5>from there before we came to the festival and it

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<v Speaker 5>was really beautiful, just super tropical home, just caught up

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<v Speaker 5>with lots of family. I think that's why when I

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<v Speaker 5>came to the first of all, I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it'll be harder to be warm, and then fucking Victorian

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<v Speaker 5>weather just yeah, freezing, but trying to still like look

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<v Speaker 5>tropical even though I'm freezing. Yeah, I grew up in Townsville.

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<v Speaker 5>How about you, sis? Where'd you grow up me from?

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<v Speaker 2>So my family's from innerspau find Off, Queensland where rainforest people.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we've moved down here. Mom came down in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom we got one of six were stolen gen so

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<v Speaker 2>my mom was taken and sort of yeah, corb under

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<v Speaker 2>Land home, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we go back on country every opportunity we get.

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<v Speaker 2>My family they got native title up there, they got

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<v Speaker 2>they fought for thirty years and they got land back,

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<v Speaker 2>course land back, and yeah, now they're living on country.

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<v Speaker 1>They're living on the land.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just doing their thing, farming, setting up you know,

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<v Speaker 2>food and Kimmi unities and ways for our family to

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<v Speaker 2>return back to that place kind of like this, you

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<v Speaker 2>know where we all come in and we've got shipping

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<v Speaker 2>containers and yeah, it's pretty dope to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of soak it up and get out of the

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<v Speaker 2>rat race. Feeling you know, of the Western world. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Murray's to Murray's look Out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Kean is a phenomenal artist.

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<v Speaker 2>Your song Better Things that was released in the pandemic've

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<v Speaker 2>Got a Blood. Me and my neighbors loved it, was

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<v Speaker 2>singing it up real love.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you've you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of released two new dancey viby sway tracks, Catch

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<v Speaker 2>the Night, kind of.

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<v Speaker 5>Got cut the Night.

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<v Speaker 2>In Sunset. I'm sure some of people here have been

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<v Speaker 2>catching the Night to sunset. If I was here, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have been catching the Night to Sunset too, And

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<v Speaker 2>no shame, but yeah, I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sis, were was there any like specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Events or experiences that was happening in your life that

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<v Speaker 2>really influenced the change in your music And yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of new new way of expressing yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, coming out of lockdowns, just wanted to be back

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<v Speaker 5>out there. Yeah, at music festivals, at giegs, just like

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<v Speaker 5>having a good time making music with friends and just thought,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I have this amazing opportunity to work with

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<v Speaker 5>a produce. I love Alice Ivy who made Sunsets and

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<v Speaker 5>Catch the Night to shout out to her, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I just told her like I want something fun, something

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<v Speaker 5>that I can performat, you know, beyond the Valley, which

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<v Speaker 5>we did last year, those two songs we debut there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that was the main motivation. Sunsets was kind

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<v Speaker 5>of about missing herme North Queensland, chropical weather, just like

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<v Speaker 5>slowing down, like you said, like feeling like you can

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<v Speaker 5>step out of the rat race a little bit and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, appreciate country and then catch the night. It

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<v Speaker 5>was kind of about, yeah, being in the moment and

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<v Speaker 5>finding joy and so I think that was the main motivation.

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<v Speaker 5>With the change in music with my last two singles,

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<v Speaker 5>but still always love Soul, I feel like that's always

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be a big influence, just like hits, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like comes from my will woo from spirit, from love

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<v Speaker 5>and yeah, being able to work with Alice Ivy just

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<v Speaker 5>you know, married those two things together so well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so true really is like a beautiful culbination. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's so nice like as people or as

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<v Speaker 2>artists that we don't have to be defined by one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're not this or we're not that, and we

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<v Speaker 2>can be a bit of everything and stay true to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm loving the new tracks. Well, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say a huge part of our show at

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<v Speaker 2>Yarning Up is trying to make Aboriginal.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowledge accessible for people.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes think people think about Aboriginal people or

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<v Speaker 2>our knowledges as like the lockness monster or something so

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<v Speaker 2>mystical and you know, far fet But the sophistication and

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<v Speaker 2>the engineering that our mob even blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it blows your mind too. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>here mob right after this short break.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to just share a little yarn that

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<v Speaker 2>I want to yeah, which I encourage you to maybe

0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.600
<v Speaker 2>take back to your camp, or take back to your families,

0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.000
<v Speaker 2>or take back to your communities. And I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>share a bit about Aboriginal song lines. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about sharing that with the mob. It's such a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So for eighty thousand years, our Mob have been using

0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 2>music as ways to communicate, to heal, to share, and

0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.159
<v Speaker 2>since colonization, we've been using it as a way to

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<v Speaker 2>elevate political messages. Literally, as Black Follows, we celebrated and

0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:54.000
<v Speaker 2>commemorated everything with song, dance, and philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it was a birth, whether it was a death,

0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>whether it was a passing, of people coming through.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, music has been a way that we really

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<v Speaker 2>stop and acknowledge that, and song lines are essentially this

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<v Speaker 2>huge library of information picture like a Wi Fi system

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<v Speaker 2>that we all use our phones with. But in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>we have what's called these ancient tracks that kind of

0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.560
<v Speaker 2>span from the north to the.

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<v Speaker 1>South, to the east to the west.

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<v Speaker 2>And essentially what elders or tribesmen used to do is

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<v Speaker 2>in order to recall or memorize information that would make

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<v Speaker 2>a song out of it. So they would look around

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<v Speaker 2>and say we're in the blue ten with the yellow

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<v Speaker 2>bler and kind of take in all this information through

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:48.360
<v Speaker 2>a song and they would sing on where to hunt,

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.679
<v Speaker 2>where together, what roads to take, and they would pass

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<v Speaker 2>that song down as a way to pass on the message,

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<v Speaker 2>so that you were able to pass on that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of ancient knowledge through a trade route. And it's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of those songs that they would use.

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<v Speaker 1>To share really important knowledges.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of our highways and major roads are built on

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<v Speaker 2>the back of song lines.

0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Which is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So like the famous road across the Nullibre from the

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<v Speaker 2>Perth to Adelaide is the song line. The road between

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<v Speaker 2>the Kimberleys and the Darwin is on the back of

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<v Speaker 2>a song line, and the most I guess the most

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<v Speaker 2>famously known story of a songline is the story of

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<v Speaker 2>the wrangu Seven Sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>What it is, It's like this really chaotic love.

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<v Speaker 2>Story where Orion's belt was tracking these seven bright sisters

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<v Speaker 2>in the sky and what's in Niru the snake was

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of chasing these seven sisters. He was like so

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<v Speaker 2>in love with them, probably like red flag unhinged behavior nowadays,

0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.200
<v Speaker 2>but back then it was really, you know, beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the story goes, Yeah, the Watimiriri snake traveled from

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<v Speaker 2>the literally from the east to the west and the

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<v Speaker 2>west and back again. And they say that most of

0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 2>our song lines actually travel through Ularu and then back

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 2>out and that's why Ularu has just got so much significance.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, I wanted to share that with you

0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 2>because maybe, like it kind of it sort of makes

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.640
<v Speaker 2>me think personally about what information I would be choosing

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<v Speaker 2>to pass down, like what songs would I be singing

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 2>these days?

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<v Speaker 1>And so with all of that in mind, Sis, I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>To ask you about, you know, how do you think

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:45.639
<v Speaker 2>the storytelling aspect of music contributes to raising awareness and

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<v Speaker 2>particularly now when we're in like a revolution and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the liberation and the world is kind of

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 2>waking up to a lot of colonial ills. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how important is music to sort of elevate and share

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<v Speaker 2>these stories.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it's vital and it's been a you know,

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<v Speaker 5>tool for change since the beginning, telling our stories for

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 5>our future generations, like building momentum for change. I think,

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:21.919
<v Speaker 5>you know, a lot of music it comes from black music,

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<v Speaker 5>which was used for protests, for activism, for liberation. So

0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.399
<v Speaker 5>now I feel like there's a kind of sense of

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:34.360
<v Speaker 5>duty to you know, carry your values and your hopes

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<v Speaker 5>for future generations with your art, at least for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was really special this year releasing a

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 5>song with sus Emma Donovan, who's Brad Nulla Yamaji gombang

0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.439
<v Speaker 5>geir Aboriginal woman. We wrote a song for Uncle Archie

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Roach and his foundation plus uncle and yeah, we got together.

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 5>It was like around Jane twenty six, talking about I

0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:03.680
<v Speaker 5>guess activists and elders that inspired us and how we

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 5>wanted to make a song that honored them and sent

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 5>love to them, and also like yeah, imagining like carrying

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 5>that torch forward for like head borders and future generations

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 5>in our communities to do the same like our elders

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:20.200
<v Speaker 5>have done for us.

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 3>So we won't take no more.

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<v Speaker 5>And we really we released it the Uncle Archie's Foundation

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<v Speaker 5>and then yeah, just seeing how it's like moved with

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 5>black fellows and with allies and with community, like how

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 5>it's yea motivated or inspired people. And yeah, we even

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:43.679
<v Speaker 5>got to sing it at me and my yeah, my

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 5>cousin and our friend a direct Aboriginal woman. We've got

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 5>to stand up and sing it for the Palestine rally.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I think music's just vital to enact change

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:57.880
<v Speaker 5>and it has always done that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like every backdrop of every major.

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Point in history within the context of a revolution or

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 2>liberation does have like that really important music to transcend

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.199
<v Speaker 2>the masses. Hey, Like I think about like even the

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 2>song Treaty you know by your Off the India, which

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 2>is like the first song ever in language. You know

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 2>how important that was, you know, nineteen ninety one and

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty years later it was still like I remember even

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 2>being a kid, it's like treating and now it's like

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, now I'm like, oh, I finally understand what

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.639
<v Speaker 2>these things mean, you know, and even yeah, art he wrote,

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 2>as you say, less resting in the dreaming, but the

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 2>song took the children away, you know, all of these

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 2>really important songs, and even now like artists like Barker

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and Lookie and yourself, and you know, everyone's sort of

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 2>spreading the message. My uncle PJ Roses, he said to me.

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>He's a black stage manager. He started working in you know,

0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Uncle PJ. Everyone knows Uncle PJ. He's always got to

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 2>dart in one hand and a red wine in the other,

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.679
<v Speaker 2>and he's always you know, he's just the life of

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the party. And he's like, oh, if you go up

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 2>on this festival thing, can you skype me up.

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>And give me a g episode?

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, But yeah, he was sort of saying the

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>other day he was at our house. It was like,

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>how good it is that even it is important to

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 2>elevate those political messages. But having young black artists who

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>are just singing for the joy and the love of

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>music as well, you know, having a bit of a

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>bit of both.

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 3>That, Yeah, black joy is still resistance. And I don't

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 3>have always be you.

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 5>Know, outspoken like that. It can just be being in spaces.

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so true black Joy, Black Love. They're the antidote,

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that's the that's the key to all of this, isn't it.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you this year has.

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Been, like for Black Follows anyway, a fucking dumpster fire

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of a year.

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>It's been probably one of the hardest times.

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 2>But I think for all of us, is people and societies,

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>we're all just kind of like questioning, you know, what,

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.199
<v Speaker 2>what's it all mean? And how do we have spaces

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.239
<v Speaker 2>where we can come together like this and connect and

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 2>to be. But I know for a lot of us, yeah,

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 2>we're feeling I guess the collective grief and the collective

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>trauma and and this is why we need joy and

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 2>places like this to just fucking be, you know, just be.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe ask you and throw it out to anyone in

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the crowd if they're feeling up for it, feeling awake.

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 1>You know what, what do you think this year has

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.479
<v Speaker 1>taught you? What?

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 2>What is it taught you? And what are you wanting

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to cultivate more of next year? Like what are you

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 2>willing to let go of? And what do you want

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 2>more of next year?

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I think this year kind of taught me to really, yeah,

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 5>just be more grounded in the moment, especially with like

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 5>family and friends, because it just goes so quickly, you know,

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 5>life is so sure. I think that was the main thing,

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 5>especially like with the referendum, and like you said, dumps

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 5>the fire of a year, like really sitting with those

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 5>like like yeah, loving moments even through the grief, just

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 5>being there with community, just like you know, being centered.

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 5>I think that was like what I kind of really

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 5>took away from it and what I'll carry next year.

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what about you, sis, Yeah.

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel the same. I feel like.

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, like you say, sitting in it and processing

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it all. I think sometimes like the Western world demands

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>us to be doing and like on and constantly like striving.

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think that even this notion about having a

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>new Year's resolution for me, I'm like, I'm just trying

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>to fucking process this year before I think about it

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. And I don't know, I feel like

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't really have any.

0:26:55.840 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Wise end of year live, laugh, love, like you know, epiphanies.

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I just feel really proud that we've just survived, like

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 2>all of us here, like round of applause, like we've

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:08.120
<v Speaker 2>all survived.

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 1>The last three years have been a total mind fuck, and.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of us have just not just

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 2>black follows, all of us are really redefining what it

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>means to live happy in healthy lives together.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're all on this journey.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just trying to process to trying to sit

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>in it, trying to be okay with it, and just

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 2>trying to like pat myself on the back for getting through.

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, what.

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 2>About you, mom, of anyone in the crowd, any lessons

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 2>any feels, Yeah, I got some mine over there.

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 6>I think, like, similar to what you guys are talking

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 6>about about, there's so much responsibility placed on Bob to

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 6>do and to act and to take action on things,

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 6>but centering that onto something specific that you want.

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Is really hard.

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 6>But I've worked out that wherever you invest that passion

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 6>and that love, it actually does take action and it

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 6>works and it makes a difference. But if you just

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 6>work out what is the passion and what you love,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 6>that it's easier to.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Do preach love that anyone else.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 7>I think, like we've been talking about this back of

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 7>accounts as well, but like reflecting on the year, and

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 7>I think like a big thing for me to reflect

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 7>on this year is like standing firm in.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 3>Your values and what you believe in.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 7>I think if the referendum, the ongoing genocide in Gaza

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 7>has shown anything, it's like, this is the time for

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<v Speaker 7>you to take stand or to stand firm and.

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<v Speaker 3>Your belief or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 7>And another thing that's like outside of sort of big

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 7>big big things is like actually to like hold your

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<v Speaker 7>loved ones close. I think a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 7>experienced grief this year. But if you keep your family close,

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<v Speaker 7>if you keep rooted in your culture, it helps you

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<v Speaker 7>know just stands strong, stand for not to do it

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<v Speaker 7>by yourself. Keep that in mind for next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you should jump up, please that, Mike, You're so right.

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel you on that bro like like it's all connected.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what we're seeing Middle East and Congu Sadan organization.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also deeply interrelated. But I also see that this is.

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<v Speaker 1>A deeply transformative time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, maybe I've got rose colored glasses,

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<v Speaker 2>but I see a world where we.

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<v Speaker 1>Return back to land.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like living together, we're growing food together, we're sharing

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>our time together. We're taking a back to the community,

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<v Speaker 2>We're taking her back to the collectivity. We're going back

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<v Speaker 2>to families and this is just like this, yeah, transformative

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<v Speaker 2>time for us to go back to what we've always known,

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>which is tribe, community, being cooperators, being helpers together. And yeah,

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 2>like you say, holding to that value is really important.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that, so true, And that's what the land wants,

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<v Speaker 5>like it's calling us to do that. That's what Blackfellows

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 5>have done and indigenous people across the world. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's very transformative time, but definitely important time to lack

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 5>in your sea sense then and your values stand strong,

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<v Speaker 5>so then collectively we all get there together leave no

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<v Speaker 5>one behind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think also like with that in mind, I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of taught me too that you know

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>rest we say, like rest is resistance or rest is

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 2>just like fucking required and with any like social movement

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, any difficult period like the last few years,

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>like these things have its own consciousness, its own entities,

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and we have to learn to the revolution will require

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>rest and endurance, and so we have to find new

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>ways to look after self.

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<v Speaker 1>If in order to nurture.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Kin and community and other we must find ways to nurtureself,

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>and we can't neglect ourselves in the process, even while

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>all these you know, atrocities are happening. We have to

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 2>go back to finding new ways to look after ourselves

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 2>and places like this is like is that I feel

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>there are extensions of that there, communities coming together for joy,

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>for laughter, for letting go of the mask or the idea,

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>have to be something and just being you know who

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you are. Yeah, So next year I think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a transformative one for all of.

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Us, say true, deadly, deadly, deadly.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>The other thing I think I learned this year is

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about like relationships, about I don't know

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 2>if everyone here has experienced ships in their lives with

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>friends and relationships, but yeah, things have to be loving

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and reciprocal because we all need to Yeah, come up,

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>come come together.

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be reciprocal.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And like what you were saying about rest is resistance,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I've learned how like community loved ones

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 5>friends Like in my ideal world, they're like, you know,

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 5>they're for you to rest and to you know, self care,

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 5>but like community care. So yeah, I don't know, just

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 5>what you're saying reminded me of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a safe place for us to land, to

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>regroot regroup. Yeah, and that's why we need a treasure

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>those moments saying anything anything you're looking forward to next year? Oh,

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>where are you playing? Have you got any shows anywhere

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 2>people can connect with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm trying to do a tour. I'm releasing my

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 5>debut EP in like April.

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Just so excited.

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 5>Thank you. Yeah, doing like Brunswick Music Festival, so cute.

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Ms Canin is going to be on the same stage

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 5>that it's like all Black Followers, Yeah.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 3>For Brunswick Music Festival. So that'll be fun.

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 5>Doing a show in Sydney for Sydney first in a

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks. And then it's been beautiful, like I've

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 5>got wedding bookings which is new for me, which is

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 5>really lovely. Like, yeah, I'd love to sing at some weddings.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you can be playing at my wedding sing no pressure, Michael.

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>That's exciting. How nice to sort of celebrate invading people's love.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that, Yeah, exactly, and really trying to I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, plan you cheer to just spend a good

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 5>chunk of time back home, like I've got to do

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 5>it last year and actually it was in Barburan Country.

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<v Speaker 3>Your country with uncle there.

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 5>We went to Google the island with all these kids

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 5>and I went snuckling and it was like a beautiful program.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, that's what I want next year, to just

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 5>be home. Like, yeah, I love being down here and

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 5>doing gigs and being on like amazing stuff like this,

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 5>but like it's so important to go home and connect

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 5>to the country and community and family.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get that strength, absolutely, and just to sort of

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>like uncomplicate it all.

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It's also simple when you.

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Stop and you get to experience the power of community land.

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 2>It's it's really so simple. We just kind of complicate

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's kind of the end of my formal questions

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<v Speaker 2>for you. I'm so grateful to sort of have a

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 2>arm with you today, you know, the end of a

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 2>busy time. It's sneeze the last day. And yeah, thank

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you mob for coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you.

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<v Speaker 2>To look after yourselves, look after this land, look after

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Say loo to your uncles and Annie's for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah mad respon Banks, have a good days.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy.

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