1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: We know that today is World Hearing Day. It is 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: a day for us to really focus on our hearing 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: and the ways in which we need to look after 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: our hearing and our ear is I think now joining 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: me in the studio. He's an audiologist. We've had on 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: the show a few times, the wonderful Salomon Joseph. Good 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: morning to you. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Katy, and kat our producer for 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: giving me this wonderful opportunity. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: It's lovely to have you on the show now. I 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: know you are so passionate about hearing, and you're so 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: passionate about people really, you know, looking after there he 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: is and having the ability to hear. What's World Hearing 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Day all about this year? 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: This year the main theme is kat Is Katy from 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Communities to classrooms, hearing care for all children. That is 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: the theme this year World Health Organization put forward and 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: the most important taking thing a notice to what they've 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: said is that the hearing laws is unaddressed. This not 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: only affects a child's ability to hear, but significantly impact speech, language, 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: cognitive and social development, commonly leading to poor educational outcome, 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: reduced employment prospects, and long term economic disadvantages. 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: It's one of those things I reckon you're hearing that 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: you don't realize how important it is until it maybe 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: starts to deteriorate or until it isn't as great, you know, 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: as it should be. And I think with our little ones, 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: a lot of us, you know, kids can have bit 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: leer infections, they can have various different things going on 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: with their ears, and sometimes when we start to think, oh, 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: are they just being a bit naughty or are they 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: not listening to me? But the fact is there's a 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: lot of different factors that can be at play. 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Isn't they Absolutely we parents, sometimes we don't pay attention 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: to our children's concern. Mummy, I cannot hear, and Daddy, 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: I cannot hear here. And I personally as an audiologist, 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: I have seen after my diagnosis the child has got 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: a mild hearing loss for more rate hearing laws and 38 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: the regret of the parent. Why didn't I pay attention 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: to my child's concern? And we always take okay, children, okay, 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: they're just children, Okay, but they are raising serious concerns 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: in the classrooms. You can imagine even in the classroom, 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: even a mild hearing laws can significantly affect their ability 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: to understand the teacher. And as you correctly pointed out, 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: the milliar infection is the main problem, because that is 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: why the Well Health Organization highlights These are the milliar 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: infections which can be preventable and it can be diagnosed 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: early and then it can be treated correctly. But the 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: role of an audiologist is so significant and audiologists generally 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: doctors use autoscope. We also use autoscope to look at 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: the ear and the four small children many times there 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: how ear ranks in the year when they have ear 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: wags in the year, we don't have a clear view 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: of the tympanic membrane or ear drum, so it affects 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: the diagnosis part of a doctor. But ordiologist has what 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: a special machine called a tympanometer to find out how 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 2: well the middle part of the year functioning, even with 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: small amount of wags. So I encourage anyone who doubt 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: about a child's hearing please contact me. I am happy 59 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: to okay, do the middle ear function test O care 60 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: because from six months onwards, at any age that machine 61 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: is usable and all children almost ninety nine percent of 62 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: the children will have a newborn hearing screening when they 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 2: come out from the hospital, so the next problem would 64 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: be the middle. 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Ear infection and that's when it mostly gets picked up. 66 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I've probably said this to you before, Solomon. I know 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: my son used to get ear infections very often and 68 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: then I remember taking him to see a specialist. They 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: pretty like they'd said to me, oh, look, there is 70 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, sign that there may be a bit of 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: hearing loss. Now, fortunately we got onto it very quickly 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: and we're able to sort things out and he's you know, 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: he's fine, he's he is a fine. But if you're 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: not getting onto it early, and you know, so often 75 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: for us as parents as well, we want to do 76 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: the right thing, but you can't tell what's going on 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: inside your children's he is. 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely and the meeting time here in the government's system 79 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: is weeks and months, and that is also a bortlenack. Yeah, 80 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: and that is why the importance of private clinics. Okay, 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: even with a small amount of money, Okay, I can 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: help people in my mission is your passion is as 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: a senior journalist, Yeah, the welfare of all Territorians. Yeah, 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: But my mission is as an audiologist is ear health 85 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: and hearing health of Territorians. 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: I know it is, and you're so passionate about that, 87 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: and I love that. I love meeting people who love 88 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: what they do, and I know that you love what 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: you do well. I mean, wa'ts your message today for 90 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: all Territorians on World Hearing Day when it comes to 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, to looking after ourselves now hearing. 92 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: The most important thing, Katie is don't expose yourself to 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: very loud noises. I see a lot of defense personnel. 94 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: They are bombarded with the firearms, explosive devices and fighter 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: jets and they all will have hearing laws and the tints, 96 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: the ringing sound of the constantinatus and avoid okay, be 97 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: sensibly okay when you listen music, be sensibly in a 98 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: moderate oli. And the other important thing is whenever you 99 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: have a ear infection or ear pain, don't take it 100 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: so lightly. See a specialist. And audiologists can help you 101 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: in many ways in diagnosing what is happening. And there 102 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: is a one condition in ideology that is called a 103 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: sudden sensory oral hearing laws that is a clinical emergency. 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: It can happen to any person tomorrow morning. I can 105 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: wake up with a hearing glass in one year or 106 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: both years and that Okay, the window of opportunity is 107 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: only just one week, and I need to have a 108 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: strong steroid at the time, otherwise that hearing laws will 109 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: become permanent hearing laws. 110 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: And Solomon, I'm just looking at some of these numbers. 111 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: There's a there's some research that's been released for World 112 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: Hearing Days. Seventeen percent of people have never had a 113 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: hearing test, only thirty five percent of tested in the 114 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: past year, Forty five percent say it's been over a year. 115 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Fifty two percent do regularly listen to loud music when 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: they're younger. So, I mean, even when you look at 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: those numbers, what you're saying is you know is absolutely correct. 118 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: You do need to make sure that you're onto it, 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: and you're onto it early if you're having issues with 120 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: your ears. 121 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely And one classic example is the vision problem is 122 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: our own problem. Yeah, but hearing problem is not only 123 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: our problem, our partner's problem too. And that is a 124 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: saying in many hosthold of my husband has got a 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: selective hearing or my wife has got a selective hearing. 126 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: But actually when someone says that, I will tell them, Okay, 127 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: show me the audiograithma of your partner. Yeah, I will 128 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: tell you this is a selective hearing or hearing laws. 129 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: Many times when we get older sixties seventies, they will 130 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 2: have a high frequency hearing loss. Not selective hearing, No, 131 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: not at all, and I can prove it. And that 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: is why after the hearing assessment we do the speech 133 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: discrimination test and they all miss the f T P 134 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: all these different high frequency tones. When the when the 135 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: sound comes through the vocal code of Katie, it becomes 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: high frequency, and children also and when it comes to 137 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: an adult typical it will be low to mid frequency sound. 138 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, this poor old man will be disadvantaged to 139 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: understand his partner and many times the partner will be 140 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: dragging the husband to an audiologist because communication is so 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: core of any relationship. 142 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and you know, your ear health, your your 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: hearing is so incredibly important. I would imagine that. You know, 144 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: quite often it's it's when it's you know, you don't 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: want to wait until it's too late before you go 146 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: and see somebody if you're having issues with your hearing. 147 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and unfortunately, an average individual will take around seven 148 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: to eightyas to do something about with their hearing laws. Wow, 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: yeah that much, Okay, the glasses. We need to read it. 150 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: So we will see an optometrist and we will they 151 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: will prescribe the correct glasses. But hearing we will procrast 152 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: in it and it will take too long. And the 153 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: problem is the research is that when we have hearing laws, 154 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: significant hearing laws, we will struggle to understand in group 155 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: situation and in social situation and in background noise y. 156 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: And when we cannot understand people and we will try 157 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,239 Speaker 2: to avoid the group situation and if they will create depression, 158 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: anxiety and even Alzheimer's okay, can lead to that problem. 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is absolutely fundamental that we do keep 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: on top of it. Well. Salomon, Joseph Audiologist. It is 161 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: always wonderful to hear from you, and always wonderful to 162 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: have you in the studio, especially for World Hearing Day. 163 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. 164 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: Thank you Vertemus, Katy and kat for this wonderful opportunity. 165 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Great to catch up with you. Thanks Salomon,