1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: I lost shops. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: They were such a big part of our lives and 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: now they're gone. Hearn's that was a big part of 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: our life. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: Irishman Thomas Ahearn opened the first Hearn's store in Hayes 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: Street in May nineteen twenty two. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't there for no do you, how. 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 4: Very very dare you? 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: He had been working in drapery management. He insisted on 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: a controlling partnership and eventually brought out his partners to 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: own the business outright, and it thrived under Thomas Ahearn didn't. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: It known for its careful buying and strong presence, and 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: it had shops all over the joint. I did used 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: to go to the one in Garden City, Yes. 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: So did I. And I used to go to the 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: hay Street and I used to go to the one 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: in Clermont too. 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right. 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: I had an Aharn's card as a kid, because you see, 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: Aharns being local specialized in school uniforms, and schools back 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: then didn't all have from there. And so I had 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: like a little Hearn's car. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Was it down in the basement the school sort of uniform. 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: But I seem to have a memory of going down 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: into a basement. 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Uniform city but not yeah, okay, but I did. But 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: then I just ring mum and her mum, I've lost 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: my socks. Get small socks. Yes, you can go and 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: use your Hearns card that you've got in your little wallet. 30 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: With all due respect? Was it Hern's the one that 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: was famous for the shop that the girls on the 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: counter being notoriously rude. 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I wouldn't have noticed. 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: Do I have to serve you? 35 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 5: Really? 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't experience? 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, yes, I think, yeah, a little bit. 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: It was a little bit. It was a little bit 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: fancy though. It was a little bit fancy, like if 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: you were looking and look at how timely is it 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: just a couple of days away from Valentine's Day? If 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: you're looking for a Valentine's Day gift. In nineteen eighty eight, 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Hearns was the place to. 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Go colorful, be romantic, be scientific with Esday lorders, free 45 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: gift filled with makeup, fragrance and treatment products including white linen, 46 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: powerful spray, and skin perfecting cream. It's free with any 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: esday lorder purchase of twenty five dollars or more. Be 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: noticed with a whole new look complements of estay loorder. 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Available only in the esday loader counter at honest. 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: Yes, if you had to get past the yesday lord 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: now lady, No, but I mean that that continues to 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: this day. They spend this much and we'll give you 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: a bag full of stuff. 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: That we hope you'll come back a buy, you know, 55 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: for real next time. 56 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, but. 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: Hearns, Yes, a very very big part of WA And 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: as I said, it was the last independent, last family 59 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: owned department store in Australia until ninety nine. 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: Yes, nineteen ninety nine is when it ended. And I 61 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: guess it's you know, big competitor Meyer. 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it was who gobbled up bones. 63 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: Who gobbled up bones, bones, bones, And yes, as we said, ultimately, 64 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: David Jones acquired all five A. Hearn stores for twenty 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: nine million dollars nineteen nineteen nine. 66 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Wargain five stores, five. 67 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: Five stores for twenty nine bucks. 68 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: That won't even they won't even get you the top 69 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: apartment in that new building going up in City Beach. No, 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: oh god, thirty nine million. 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: Thomas Ahearn was posthumously recognized as one of the one 72 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: hundred most influential West Australian business people back in twenty thirteen. 73 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: Thank you for giving us a Hearns. 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Yes, your memories of a Hearns? What did you go 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: there for special memories? Were they good or were they 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: like Lisa's at the front desk? Sometimes not so good? 77 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: I think it was it was mostly the makeup counters 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: where they were a little bit renowned. Well, no, that's 79 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: a little bit uper tea. 80 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: And that's why I never had That's why I never 81 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: had that experience, because I wasn't one for going up 82 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: to the makeup. 83 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: Well, you didn't get your Hearns a year esday, Lord, 84 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: a bag of. 85 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: No I didn't miss. I went there to shop. Is 86 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: the last of perths of WA's department stores, Hearns and Lisa. 87 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: It would appear that some of your memories of the 88 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: makeup counter Hearns have triggered a few people. 89 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, Donna, and the Ann Chip says the women's sales 90 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: reps at Karen Up were done up like flight attendants 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: and were so rude and obnoxious with the customers. 92 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't just you. 93 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: I didn't imagine it. 94 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: No. 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: Jillan Bateman, Hello, Hello, Well, what's your memory of the Hearns. Jill. 96 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 5: Oh, well, it was a long time ago, so the 97 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: memory is a bit shaky. But I was a young 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 5: child and I can remember going shopping with my mum 99 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 5: in a Hearns in the Hay Street mall store and 100 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 5: walking up those creaky wooden staircase they had there, and 101 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: being careful not to get hit by other shoppers with 102 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 5: their bags. Funny time. Yeah, it was a great store. 103 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: We got all this stuff from the makeup counter knocking 104 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 2: little kids, I'll knock you off this deck. It seems 105 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: to be something about wa stores and floorboards, because Charlie 106 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Carter's was remembered for its wooden floorboards in the supermarkets, 107 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: and you're remembering the Herns for the creaky wooden staircase, right, 108 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: they seem to have scrimped on on floors in local stores. 109 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: They don't have the wooden staircases anymore, No, they do not, the. 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: Right, Thanks Jill, Jill, you thank you all right, Yes, 111 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: staircase you do. 112 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't actually specifically remember the wooden staircase. 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: I do, it was like it was quite grand. 114 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: Maybe I remember the elevator where the you know, the 115 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: door came across and there'd be someone there to take 116 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: you to your floor. 117 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: John what's his name? 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: Yes, dressed nicely haberdasherie on level three. 119 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: Back to you, sir, it's our memories of a Hearns today. 120 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: Jackie and Bentley on the text said, my grandmother used 121 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: to take us to a Hearn's cafeteria as a treat. 122 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 3: It was just that little bit fancier than Cole's cafeteria, 123 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: the Coles cafeteria too. And Julie and these past says 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 3: Hearns was always the go to, you know, place for 125 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: wedding presents and other special occasion things. Her her aunt 126 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: Nellie worked there. Amongst the Waterford crystal and fine china, 127 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: and the signs that said lovely to look out to 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: life for a hold. If it's broken, consider it sold. 129 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: And this area do you walk with your hands in 130 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: your arms off against your side. Julie says Hearns was 131 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: the last place in Perth to have a lift operator, 132 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: a kind older man who pressed the buttons and guided 133 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: everyone to the right place. So how very are you 134 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: being served? 135 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: How very and we're done very by gone. We think 136 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: we have tracked down a relative of the great Thomas 137 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Thomas Hearn who started the whole Hearn's story. 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: We're talking about a Hearns today, which was started by 139 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: Thomas Ahearn back in nineteen was twenty two, and we 140 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: actually have Thomas Ahearn's great grandson, Tom. I wonder where 141 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: you got named after her in Freeo. 142 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: Good morning, Tom, Good morning. Yeah, there's about six Thomas's. 143 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: I bet it's a family tradition. I'm sure. 144 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, might be. 145 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: And why wouldn't it be? 146 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, very very unimaginative. So you. 147 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: Are your what's your experience of being in the Ahearn's family. 148 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: Are you too young to remember much of it or 149 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: you're just sort of on the cusp of it all happening. 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: No, No, I remember very well. So, yeah, mama was 151 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: a Hearn. Obviously my grandfather didn't work in the business. 152 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: He was a doctor. But his brother John brand the show. Yes, 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: great grandfather. He came out from Cork in Ireland or 154 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: a ten pound palm ticket. I think the story is 155 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: he took his mate's ticket. Yeah, yeah, very fine. Memory 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: of the city store and there was a car park 157 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: in the eighth where the family could park, and there 158 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: was the old Diggre there who remembered every single cousin 159 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: or name any part of the car for you had 160 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: to be for you. 161 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: I was going to say your Christmas shopping with a 162 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: car park. 163 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: Than that, the family got a pretty healthy discount, I believe, 164 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: so mom would take full of full advantage of that 165 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: which you could. And it's funny you talk about the 166 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: roots earlier. And I do remember one incident where the 167 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: lady was being quite rude to my mum and she 168 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: pulled out a Hen's card and she's like, oh, anything 169 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: else I can do. 170 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: Just give it her the doc you know who I am. 171 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I love it. 172 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: About saying. 173 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: I don't drop of the card on the table and 174 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: there you go. 175 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: Oh that's great, great memories. 176 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: Thanks Tom. 177 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: Thanks Tom. 178 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: Can I just ask you a question? 179 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: Your job? 180 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: Are you in retail? 181 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: No? I work. I'm working the pubs and I'm a musician. 182 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: So I did get I did get offered when I 183 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: was a teenager to work. In the dispatched sense of it, I. 184 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: I'm off to work in the pub better. 185 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: Thanks Tom. 186 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: Thanks