1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Already and this is this is the Daily This is 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: the Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Tuesday, 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: the twentieth of January. I'm Emma Gillespie, I'm Billy fitz Simons. 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: Federal Parliament will today debate new hate speech and gun 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: control legislation in the wake of the Bondi terror attack 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: that killed fifteen innocent people last month. 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Honoring the heroes of Bondi also means standing together against 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: that evil that inflicted this devastation, standing together against hatred, 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: standing together against division, and working together to eradicate any semitism. 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: The government initially planned to introduce a single bill covering 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: multiple reforms, but widespread opposition has forced it to split 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: the legislation into two bills. Today we are going to 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: be down what's in these bills and why they've proven 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: so controversial. 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: So, Emma, it's not exactly normal that Parliament sits in January, 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: but the Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi brought parliamentarians back specifically 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: for this legislation. 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: Right exactly. So you're right, Billy. We don't often see 20 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: legislation being tabled at this time of year. But Parliament 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: was recalled in the wake of the fourteen December Bondi 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 2: terror attack, when two gunmen targeted a Jewish celebration, killing 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: fifteen innocent people. Now, that attack sparked immediate calls for 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: stronger laws to combat both anti semitism and hate speech. 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: We've seen a real growing kind of conversation around the 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: need to do something about these attacks, and that came 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: to a head when the government announced plans to table legislation. 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: It initially announced that it would introduce what it called 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: an omnibus bill. Now that's just a term that basically 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: means one large piece of legislation that covers multiple policy areas. 31 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: This bill was going to include tougher hate speech laws 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: as well as strengthened gun control measures, lots of reforms 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: all in one package. 34 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: Okay, and I know now it's not one package. But 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: I think how we should explain this is explain what 36 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: the bill initially was, yep, and then we can get 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: to how it's now changed. But let's start with the 38 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: initial omnibus bill that they were going to introduce. 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: So that bill, called the Combating Anti Semitism, Hate and 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: Extremism Bill, was described by the Attorney General Michelle Roland 41 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: as the toughest hate laws Australia has ever seen. You 42 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: may have heard some MPs calling it the biggest reforms 43 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: and changes to national security and hate speech laws since 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: nine to eleven. Now, on the hate speech side, it 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: sought to significantly increase penalties for hate motivated offenses, including 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: jail terms of up to twelve years for what the 47 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: government called hate preachers. So new penalties for inciting hatred 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: would have created a new standalone offense for publicly promoting 49 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: or inciting hatred on the basis of race or ethnicity, 50 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: racial vilification. The bill also proposed a national framework to 51 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: list prohibited hate groups, similarly to how terrorist organizations are 52 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: currently listed. We heard from Azio on that reform, essentially 53 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: saying that a lot of groups were operating just outside 54 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: the law or skirting around the law, but ultimately inciting violence, 55 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: and that this bill would kind of similarly list those 56 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: groups in the same way that terror organizations are treated. 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Right, So that is the hate speech half of that 58 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: initial bill. But then there was also a gun reform half. 59 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: What was that part? 60 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: Yes, So the bill proposed a buyback scheme to reduce 61 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: the number of guns right across the country. Owners would 62 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: be allowed to surrender their guns, they receive at tax 63 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: exempt compensation for doing so, and the Australian Federal Police 64 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: would then oversee the destruction of those surrendered weapons. The 65 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: government's legislation also proposed a new background check system for 66 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: gun license holders. We heard a little bit about this 67 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: at the end of last year. Essentially, this would allow 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: authorities to reassess someone's suitability to hold a gun license 69 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: if new information emerges outside the normal renewal period. We 70 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: heard the Prime Minister say, you know, just because someone 71 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: is granted a gun license at one point in their life, 72 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that things don't change. It doesn't mean 73 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: that they can't become radicalized later in their lives. Finally, 74 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: under the bill, the Home Affairs Minister could also refuse 75 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: or cancel visas for non citizens who are associated with 76 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: terrorist or prohibited hate groups, have engaged in hate motivated 77 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: conduct even without a conviction, or publicly promote racist or 78 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: extremist views that are deemed to pose a risk to community. 79 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: So we had the buyback changing background checks and some 80 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: new powers for the Home Affairs Minister. 81 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so that is what Labour initially intended to introduce 82 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: the hate speech laws and the gun reform laws. They 83 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: wanted to introduce them together. Yeah, but in order to 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: do that they did need support from elsewhere in the 85 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: Parliament and they haven't exactly got that right, that's correct. 86 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: So Labor has a majority in the lower house, the 87 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: House of Representatives, but to pass legislation through the Senate, 88 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: it needs the support of either the Greens or the Coalition. 89 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: So you're exactly right, Billy. The government ended up facing 90 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: such strong opposition from all sides of politics that it 91 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: was forced to split that omnibus legislation into two bills. 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: One bill focuses on the hate speech reforms and the 93 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: other on gun reforms. 94 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: And so why did the Coalition and the Greens oppose 95 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: the legislation And just to be clear, they opposed the 96 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: hate speech part of the legislation, not necessarily the gun one. 97 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: Right, Well, most of the objections do relate to the 98 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: hate speech reforms, you're right, but both sides had very 99 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: different objection to the reforms. So Opposition leader Susan Lee 100 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: had called the bill half baked. She said it was 101 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: rushed and ultimately that it doesn't address what she called 102 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: the root causes of the Bondie attack Islamic extremism or 103 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: rising antisemitism. The coalition was particularly concerned about a racial 104 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: vilification loophole in the bill that we'll get into more later. 105 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: They argued that that could allow religious leaders to avoid 106 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: hate speech charges if they were directly quoting from a 107 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: religious text. Lee also said the coalition wants to enshrine 108 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: a formal definition of antisemitism in law, which this bill 109 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: did not include. 110 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so that is the coalition's criticism of the hate 111 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: speech part of the potential reforms. What about the Greens? 112 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: The Greens had different concerns, but relating to the same 113 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: parts of the legislation. Greens leader Larissa Wards ultimately said 114 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: the bill could have unintended consequences and be weaponized to 115 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: shut down legitimate political protest. And the Greens all so 116 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: argued that making it easier for the Home Affairs Minister 117 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: to cancel visas because someone might commit an offense is 118 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: not a credible legal test. 119 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Okay. We briefly said before that in response to this criticism, 120 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: they have split the legislation in half. Right, That was 121 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: their solution. 122 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: That was the solution we heard that announced over the weekend, 123 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: and ultimately this is kind of a strategic move because 124 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: we did learn late last week that the Greens would 125 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: support the gun law reforms in the omnibus legislation. So 126 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: the government has kind of responded to that and said, well, 127 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: we know we can pass the gun law reforms, so 128 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: let's split them out and let's work on the hate 129 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: speech reforms and see if we can get them across. 130 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: So it means that the government can at least get 131 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: one part of its response to the Bondi terror attack 132 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: through Parliament. 133 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: And then will they make changes to the hate speech 134 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: part of the initial bill. 135 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: Well, it first of all should be mentioned that a 136 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: lot of the bill has stayed the same. So we've 137 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: split out the hate speech reforms, but so of the 138 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: initial legislation or reforms are still in there. That includes 139 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: the visa cancelation powers tougher penalties for hate motivated offenses 140 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: up to twelve years in jail, but publicly or promoting 141 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: or inciting hatred based on race or ethnicity has been 142 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: removed from this new legislation. That was a reform that 143 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: had caused a lot of controversy I understand. 144 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: So that's how they've changed it. Not only have they 145 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: split the bill in half, but then they've also amended 146 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: the hate speech part. Yes, so why was that part 147 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: taken away? 148 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: So this has been one of the most controversial aspects 149 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: to this legislation, to the conversation going on politically, The 150 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: original bill included laws around racial vilification and an exemption. 151 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: You may have heard this discussed as a loophole. So 152 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: under the initial proposal, it would be illegal to incite 153 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: or promote hatred on the grounds of race, color, or 154 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: national or ethnic origin unless and this is a big unless, 155 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: unless someone is directly quoting from a religious text. Now, 156 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: the Executive Council of Australian Jury raised concerns about this 157 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: loophole and said invoking religion as an excuse to dehumanize 158 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: and mistreat others simply on the basis of who they 159 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: are must surely be a thing of the past. The 160 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,119 Speaker 2: Coalition was concerned about this loophole. It was also divided 161 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: about whether this law would restrict free speech, and the 162 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: Greens wanted to see the scope of this reform actually 163 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: broadened to include LGBTQIA plus groups and people with disabilities, 164 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: as well as other minority groups. We heard from independent 165 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: MP Alegrispender. Her electorate actually includes the Bondai area and 166 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: she had raised the same issue as the Greens, but 167 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: said she'd still support the bill because Jewish community safety 168 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: is paramount now. To use her words, Spender and several 169 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: other independents, the group known as the Teals have actually 170 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: called on the Coalition and Greens to support what they 171 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: acknowledge is an imperfect bill but to quote, w work 172 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: on it together to get it right. 173 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: Okay, So where does that leave us today? Do you 174 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: think that this bill will pass? 175 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: Well? 176 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: We now know that that racial vilification offense has been removed, 177 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: which hypothetically gives the Coalition some of what they were 178 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: asking for, but it's really unclear at the time of recording. 179 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: The gun reform bill will almost certainly pass, we know 180 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: that because the Greens have said they'll support it, but 181 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: these hate speech laws still look to be in significant trouble. 182 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: Deputy Prime Minister Richard Miles said yesterday that the Coalition 183 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: are hopelessly divided. He's kind of politically attacking their lack 184 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: of unification at the moment in terms of being able 185 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: to articulate the amendments that they want. Miles said, we 186 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: need to work with a partner here, but right now 187 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: the coalition has not appeared. Opposition leader Susan Lee called 188 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: the legislation unsalvagable last week. Her biggest argument really was 189 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: that this was too rushed. It's all being pushed through 190 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: too quickly, and that important aspects are being missed and 191 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: therefore the coalition cannot support the legislation. Since Albanesi announced 192 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: that the reforms would be split in two, we really 193 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: haven't gotten a clear cut answer from the coalition as 194 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: to where they will fall. 195 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: And I saw yesterday that Prime Minister Anthony Alberesi, I 196 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: know this is maybe again confusing, but he was then 197 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: critical of Opposition leader Susan Lee, saying that this was 198 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: all rushed. 199 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: Right. Yes. One of the political conversations that's emerged from 200 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: this is, you know, we did hear from the coalition 201 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: quite a lot between December fourteenth and last week, really 202 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: really calling for and pushing for action. Albanesi is saying 203 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: essentially that he's stunned at the criticism for these reforms 204 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: because the coalition said it wanted urgent action. Albanesi now 205 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: saying they can't complain about the timing because they're responding 206 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: to those calls. Cabinet Minister Murray what said yesterday the 207 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: government is negotiating with the coalition and is very hopeful 208 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: that they'll support these laws. But what made it really 209 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: clear that if the legislation doesn't have enough support to pass, 210 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: the government does not want to engage in a debate 211 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: that could potentially become really divisive and hateful at a 212 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: time when the country does not need it. Albanzi has 213 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: asked MPs to look for reasons to agree rather than disagree, 214 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: but with such fundamental differences between the parties, it's really 215 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: hard to see how that will happen quickly. 216 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: So what happens next. 217 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: Albanzi was asked at a press conference this week if 218 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: this was the last chance to pass hate speech laws, 219 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: and he said, correct, this is the last chance. The 220 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: government does not want to continue pushing for something that 221 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: the rest of the Parliament won't agree with, So if 222 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: it fails today, the government has kind of said that's it. 223 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: There's so much uncertainty, Billy, but I do think it's 224 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: worth quickly touching on a perhaps rare moment of bipartisanship. 225 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: Yesterday on Monday, we saw Parliament come together to observe 226 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: a minute's silence before the PM moved a condolence motion 227 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: for the victims of the Bondai terror attack. We heard 228 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: quite moving addresses from all sides of the political aisle 229 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: and his a little bit of what Prime Minister said 230 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: to end today's episode on. 231 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: We must continue to raise our voices against the silence 232 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: because while the massacre at Bondai Beach was cruel and senseless, 233 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: it was not random. Jewish Australians were the target. As 234 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: we offer our love, sympathy and solidarity to everyone bearing 235 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: the weight of trauma and loss, we make it clear 236 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: to every Jewish Australian you are not alone. 237 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: Emma, thank you for breaking that down for us. We 238 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: will obviously be watching closely to see what happens in 239 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: Parliament today. It will be a very big day in 240 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Parliament and thank you so much for listening to this 241 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: episode of The Daily OS. We'll be back this afternoon 242 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: with your evening headlines, but until then, we hope you 243 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: have a good day. My name is Lily Maddon and 244 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm a proud Arunda Banjelung Kalgotin woman from Gadigl country. 245 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: The Daily oz acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on 246 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: the lands of the Gadighl people and respect to all 247 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Aboriginal and torrest Rate island and nations. 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