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Speaker 1: And Amanda gam Nation. You know, I ask you to

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Speaker 1: guess anything. I'm talking about the brand Guests, big brand.

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Speaker 1: They sell all kinds of things, expensive brand bags and stuff. Yeah, bags, watches,

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Speaker 1: clothes or stuff. Yes, uh they have.

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Speaker 2: You did say guess.

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Speaker 1: They've featured a new campaign in Vogue magazine with this

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Speaker 1: beautiful model. But what and she looks gorgeous, blonde hair,

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Speaker 1: she's kind of very curvy. Don't mean to show you

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Speaker 1: a picture. I You've got chipture in front of you.

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Speaker 2: I've got a picture.

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Speaker 1: She's curvy. She looks a bit like is it Hannah

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Speaker 1: Wattingham who's in Like, what's what's the movie?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: That's that TV show with the song Lasso?

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Speaker 2: So she's curvy, Hannah Waddington.

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Speaker 1: And a young Denise Richards in the face.

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Speaker 2: And Sophie Sophia Vigara.

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Speaker 1: So she's she's very sexy. Girl next door looks amazing.

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Speaker 2: Who's she? Who's this girl?

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Speaker 1: Well? Her name here? Does she have her name? Her name?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe it's Sarah Fina what people have discovered?

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Speaker 1: You don't normally know the model's names in the ads.

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Speaker 1: She's in a Guess ad that's featuring in Vogue or

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Speaker 1: not a Guess ad. It's a spread, so it's an editorial.

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Speaker 1: What has happened though, if it's a two page spread,

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Speaker 1: if you look very closely down the side, and who's

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Speaker 1: going to do that? Because I've had to zoom in

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Speaker 1: to see it, she isn't real. She is ai And

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Speaker 1: there's a big furor around this. People are saying to

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Speaker 1: boycott Vogue, to boycott Guess. But Vogue of all places,

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Speaker 1: which is a magazine that makes it that features humans

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Speaker 1: as models. They used to say there's only eight supermodels

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Speaker 1: in the world because to be so genetically perfect, yeah,

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Speaker 1: is not common proportionately.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff, all that.

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Speaker 1: Stuff, and through the years we've had many different looks.

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Speaker 1: We've had the waif look, the heroine chic, the curvier,

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Speaker 1: the body positivity models. There have been a variety of different,

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Speaker 1: variety of different looks that have graced the pages of Vogue.

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Speaker 1: So you have to deal as a reader of Vogue

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Speaker 1: and a purveyor of these photographs. You have to set

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Speaker 1: your mind to the perfect the perfect genetics you're looking at,

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Speaker 1: and then all the air brushing that you're looking at.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was the whole campaign about women protesting about photoshopping.

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Speaker 1: And stuff, photoshop out my roles. So this has taken

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Speaker 1: out the photoshop out my sausage role that I'm eating

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Speaker 1: during this photoshop. This has taken out, taken the next level.

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Speaker 2: That's what you get for winging.

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Speaker 1: I guess, Oh no, this isn't what you get for winging.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, Well, you complained about it about

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Speaker 2: what the editor of the magazines says, okay, till what

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Speaker 2: I'll take you right out of the equation. So morally

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Speaker 2: this is okay?

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Speaker 1: Is it okay?

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Speaker 2: Well you're not You're not photoshopping someone. It's not a lie.

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Speaker 2: The person doesn't exist. Yeah, but it's the same as

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Speaker 2: like when an artist of the Renaissance did a painting

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Speaker 2: of someone and they would have license with it.

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Speaker 1: But the difference is, or maybe there's no difference in

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Speaker 1: that that women, young girls look at this and see

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Speaker 1: this look as aspirational. They already have to deal with

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Speaker 1: As I said, that person has an amazing genetics and

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Speaker 1: now and the air brushing, but it's a different thing

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Speaker 1: together that they have created the most perfect human and

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Speaker 1: not only that they're putting models out of work. Vogue magazine,

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Speaker 1: who makes its living by featuring models is putting models

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Speaker 1: out of work.

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Speaker 2: But then wouldn't there be solace in the fact that

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Speaker 2: you know that that's not real and that's not someone.

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Speaker 1: But do you know that's the thing. It's not written

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Speaker 1: in big lettering across the top. You've got really hard

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Speaker 1: to see it. And now we've got AI influencers, remember

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Speaker 1: all that. Just a couple of weeks ago, we were

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Speaker 1: discovered that this. We were discovered when I was sitting

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Speaker 1: at the Soda pop fountain. It was discovered that a

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Speaker 1: number of influencers they're completely fake, completely AI.

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Speaker 2: How you say influences are fake?

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Speaker 1: But well, that's the point. Does it matter? It's interesting,

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Speaker 1: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Next I'll be on merrit at first sight watch this space.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to out our network here on one of

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Speaker 1: our it was not our radio station. There was an

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Speaker 1: AI announcer. It's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: That's scary time.

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Speaker 1: This is our version of this. There are millions of

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Speaker 1: humans wanting these jobs. Of course, don't give it to

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Speaker 1: a machine. AI was supposed to do our laundry and

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Speaker 1: the boring, boring stuff that we didn't want to do,

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Speaker 1: to free us up to be creative and interesting, and

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Speaker 1: instead where the servants to AI who are doing the creative,

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Speaker 1: beautiful poetry and painting.

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Speaker 2: There is a young model right now who was about

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Speaker 2: to contemplate a Goosman breakfast burrito, but instead is going

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Speaker 2: to eat a lettuce leaf and an ice cube so

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Speaker 2: she can be a model. Now you don't have to

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Speaker 2: worry about that.

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Speaker 1: Well, now she's out of a job. Is that better?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Watch this space, watch this space. I

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Speaker 1: keep saying, watch this space. I don't have a solution

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Speaker 1: for it. But there's lots of complaints for Vogue, and

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Speaker 1: guess will the pushback mean anything or do they just

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Speaker 1: say get used to it? Here we go.

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Speaker 2: AI won't replace us, You get a monkey from the

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Speaker 2: Zuda replace us

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Speaker 1: Now, that's too expensive.