WEBVTT - TOXIC POSITIVITY - Take your good vibes and shove it

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Part I'm Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you forgotten your name?

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<v Speaker 1>You've had one way off and you've forgotten your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Even I had four days off. Come on and I'm Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Brittany, and this is Life one cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just like to let you all know I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that I wasn't there on Tuesday's episode. I was

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent convinced that I was going into labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's actually not even joking.

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<v Speaker 3>So I walk in the door to do the record

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<v Speaker 3>at night and everything's fine. She messaged me, She's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>like still come up in an hour. I'm like, great,

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<v Speaker 3>on my way. I walk in the door and you

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<v Speaker 3>can hear the noise and Matt's face is white, like

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<v Speaker 3>a possessed donkey.

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<v Speaker 2>On All fours business donkey. And then we yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Three of us, and this is the relationship that it is.

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<v Speaker 3>The three of us thought that Laura was going into

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<v Speaker 3>labor for two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the obvious and you know, the obvious thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do then was for me to be going into

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<v Speaker 1>labor and for Britain Matt to record a podcast. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so in our defense, we were like, Laura, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital, like I think this is early signs of labor.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not normal, And she's like, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast must go on. She's like, I'm gonna sit here

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<v Speaker 1>and watch you whilst I'm in labor record the podcast together.

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<v Speaker 1>So for anyone who doesn't actually know what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about because you missed Tuesday's episode, basically, Matt, my partner,

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<v Speaker 1>he and Brittany didn't ask uncut episode instead. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know we're making jokes about it, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't my first rodeo. It's not like this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I've been pregnant. It wasn't just like

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<v Speaker 1>weird bracks and hicks cramps. I was getting like proper,

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<v Speaker 1>really painful contractions and I call my midwife. My midwife

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<v Speaker 1>was like, are you sure you don't just have gastro?

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<v Speaker 1>There is one very important element that's missing, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is the gas part. You know, I've done it before

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<v Speaker 1>where I rocked up at the hospital and it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out to be gas. That wasn't this, it was something else.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, it all kind of like subsided. After three

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<v Speaker 1>hours timing the contractions and everything, Yeah, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen minutes apart. It was all very intense last

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<v Speaker 1>night here. But anyway, I still managed to deliver the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We got you an episode out on Tuesday, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back and I still have a baby inside of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do not I did not go into preterm labor.

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<v Speaker 3>So we do want you to know that when we

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<v Speaker 3>do go rogue and things like that do happen and

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<v Speaker 3>we're out of normal scheduling, it's always for a genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>good reason. We don't just do it because we're lazy

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<v Speaker 3>and we can't be bothered to do something. It's always

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<v Speaker 3>because something. There's some sort of chaos in one of

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<v Speaker 3>our lives which does happen, and we just try to

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<v Speaker 3>find an alternative so we can still deliver you something.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is why Tuesday's episode happened the way it did.

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<v Speaker 1>We thriving chaos. So we always bring.

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<v Speaker 2>The goods, guys. Honestly, imagine what we could achieve if

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<v Speaker 2>you and I were organized.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just funny itself, isn't it. I know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've complained about it a little bit on

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<v Speaker 1>past episodes, but you know, strap onto your nickers, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna complain again.

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<v Speaker 3>Strap onto your nickers like a pad.

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<v Speaker 1>Strap your nickers onto yourself. I don't know, put them

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<v Speaker 1>on just whatever. Maybe there's someone out there listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this not wearing onndies right now. I bet you there is.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you were going to get a DM in

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen minutes. That says, yeah, I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this without my aunties on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, second pregnancy sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I wanted to What's been very different for you,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like the first time, I was such a like a.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just so glowy pregnant in my little element.

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<v Speaker 1>I found everything so easier. I was still exercising. I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't have any I didn't have any cramps, and

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<v Speaker 1>boobs didn't hurt, my back didn't hurt, my hips didn't hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you were like a beautiful supermodel mermaid. No, let's

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<v Speaker 3>not get to you were you were like that pregnant

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<v Speaker 3>woman that like floats, you know, the ones that don't walk,

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<v Speaker 3>They float down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, oh, she's so beautiful pregnant, and now I

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<v Speaker 2>look like a that's donkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, just everything kind of has gone a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit skew with this pregnancy, Like everything hurts a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more. Everything's like, you know, it's just been

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<v Speaker 1>used its secondhand now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well the thing is.

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<v Speaker 3>Too when you're pregnant the first time. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really stately obvious here. When you're pregnant the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>you weren't running around after a toddler. You had this

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<v Speaker 3>whole other aspect that didn't exist yet. So now you

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<v Speaker 3>have an extra full time job on top of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I also didn't have the podcast then either, because we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of started that just after Mally was born.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true, so you've taken on. Your life has

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<v Speaker 3>increased exponentially. So I feel like, once we really nut

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<v Speaker 3>this out, we can see why life's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that is kind of where we're at. I

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<v Speaker 1>still have ten weeks left with this pregnancy, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty weeks now, with thirty one weeks. Look, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to check the app. Look, we're getting closed.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got ten weeks left. So last night would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a real disaster had it actually turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be pre term labor.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably just gas. Speaking of pregnancy, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit bit of weird side tangent, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that I wanted to quickly touch on on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I saw something on Facebook the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Andrews put up a post in regards to miscarriage

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<v Speaker 1>and like, you guys know, if you've listened to our

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<v Speaker 1>episode for a while, I did a really big well,

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<v Speaker 1>we did really big, but it was my story. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we did a really big episode on miscarriage quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few months ago. And I read this statement that

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Andrews had put on Facebook two days ago and

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<v Speaker 1>it really really touched me, and so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you guys if you haven't seen it yet. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what the Australian government is going to do is parents

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<v Speaker 1>who have experienced early pregnancy loss can now apply for

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<v Speaker 1>a commemorative certificate from birth, death and Marriages. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>small thing, but I hope it helps. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the statement that Dan Andrews put out.

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<v Speaker 2>Propably made me cry. What I read that was.

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<v Speaker 3>More just about finally acknowledging that it is a big

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<v Speaker 3>loss and it is a life and it gives you

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<v Speaker 3>a way to, I guess, find some sort of closure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think everyone deals with it differently. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I personally wouldn't have gone down the path

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<v Speaker 1>of getting a certificate or a commemorative certificate, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that I felt like I needed. But there

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<v Speaker 1>would be so many women out there who who feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just not it's not validated by anyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no it's like this thing that happens to you

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just get on with your life as

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<v Speaker 1>though it never existed. But it did exist, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little life, and it's just a really amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that like the government is taking a step

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like, women need to be recognized in this

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<v Speaker 1>suffering a women need to be recognized in their loss.

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<v Speaker 1>And it gives people that ability to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take that step. And I just read it and it

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<v Speaker 1>really touched me. And I know that there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many women who listen to this podcast who have experienced miscarriage,

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<v Speaker 1>because so many of you have reached out to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought this might be something that you would

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear as well. We really are moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>in leaps and bounds, isn't It was only not even

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<v Speaker 1>within the last two years.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we weren't even speaking about it. People were just

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<v Speaker 3>suffering on their own. They wouldn't tell friends and family.

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't a lot out there publicly. And I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like in the last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>We've made it okay to talk about We've made it

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<v Speaker 1>okay to sit in your sadness and sit in your

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<v Speaker 1>loss and tell friends. And I think it used to

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<v Speaker 1>come from a place where you didn't want to put

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<v Speaker 1>your grief onto someone else. You didn't want someone else

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<v Speaker 1>to make you didn't want to make someone else feel uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>or you didn't think that would.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand, which a lot of people won't be able to

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<v Speaker 3>understand because they haven't been through it. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>through it, so I couldn't understand yours, but I could

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<v Speaker 3>still understand loss.

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<v Speaker 2>I can still understand pain.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it's that thing that like, they're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, And this is what we got into when

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<v Speaker 1>we did that episode. The not talking about it is

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<v Speaker 1>what breeds shame, and it's what breeds guilt, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>what makes people think, well that it's something wrong with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just thought that this was a really beautiful statement,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's actually interesting because this has just happened as

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<v Speaker 1>a real sort of synchronicity. Today's podcast topic that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about is toxic positivity. And the very first time

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<v Speaker 1>we ever talked about toxic positivity was when we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it in that episode. And how often people and

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends and when you do talk about having miscarriage,

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<v Speaker 1>how people always say, oh, this wasn't the right one,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, this baby wasn't meant for you, there

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<v Speaker 1>must have been something wrong with it. They try and

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<v Speaker 1>justify your sadness or justify your loss, where really you

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<v Speaker 1>just want someone to sit in that with you or

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<v Speaker 1>let you feel through it yourself. So we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>toxic positivity today, and yeah, we're gonna break it down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a bigger topic that's well and truly outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the whole realms of miscarriage. But just that was

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<v Speaker 1>like a really natural and organic segue, which I wasn't expecting.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, in terms of segue, Oh god, for

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<v Speaker 3>it is about to tell us Tommy something outrageous. Now

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<v Speaker 3>speaking of like seguaying, I guess this is sort of

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<v Speaker 3>on parting word.

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<v Speaker 1>No it is, now can you segueghing somewhere? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can add I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Go segueing over here. Yeah, I'm gonna seg Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going segwaying. Continue with your segue.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but whilst we're talking about the whole everything to

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<v Speaker 3>do with pregnancy and miscarriage, fertility, I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>share my own little journey with you guys, because I

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<v Speaker 3>love you all and you my family. And speaking of

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<v Speaker 3>trying to dissipate the shame that is associated with anything

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<v Speaker 3>to do with women trying fell pregnant or IVF for miscarriages.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're here for. We want to make everyone

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you are not alone. We want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it more Okay, So I am going to take you

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<v Speaker 1>guys on my egg freezing journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Da da da. This is when, this is when it

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<v Speaker 2>would be really great to put the clap on like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound effect on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So we did the fertility episode with doctor Cherlfoi a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks ago now, and I was literally hooked

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<v Speaker 3>to the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned so much.

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<v Speaker 3>We had so many of your running saying how much

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<v Speaker 3>that episode helped you, how much you got from it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we love that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact of the matter is I left that

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<v Speaker 2>episode I left that interview and I literally booked in

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<v Speaker 2>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is something that I feel very

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<v Speaker 3>strongly about, and I felt like I had to start

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<v Speaker 3>the process straight away, so I did so.

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<v Speaker 2>I I'll just it's not gonna be a long process.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually quite short once you get going, So it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like we're gonna be talking about this for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. But I may as well tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>it's like as it happens, so that you guys are

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<v Speaker 3>very aware. You literally go and get a referral. You

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<v Speaker 3>go and say you want to freeze your eggs, You

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<v Speaker 3>go and get a referral, and they're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 3>a referral for a blood test and an ultrasound, and

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<v Speaker 3>all that he's doing is checking your egg count and

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<v Speaker 3>your follicles. They just want to know before you even.

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<v Speaker 2>Start what level they're at.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've done that, but I haven't got my results

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<v Speaker 3>back yet. The sonographer said my follicles were great. She's like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's plenty of them, they're great. But I haven't actually

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<v Speaker 3>gone back to the doctors to get the results.

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<v Speaker 2>That it will be next week. But it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite funny. So I I.

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<v Speaker 3>Went to my ultrasound I'd booked in and it was

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<v Speaker 3>in the city, and it was the only day I've

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<v Speaker 3>actually had to leave Bond in a long time that

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<v Speaker 3>I've booked something that I cannot miss. Like everything else,

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<v Speaker 3>usually I'm like, oh, I could postpone it, but this

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<v Speaker 3>is like I couldn't. And it was the day that

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<v Speaker 3>my car broke down this week. I had no way

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<v Speaker 3>to get there. I was running really late. So my

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<v Speaker 3>best friend Renee very kindly said, I'll take you to

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<v Speaker 3>the ultrasound. So she came in with me. And now,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's fertility, I didn't know this, but you get.

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<v Speaker 2>A support person.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when you go and have an ultra sound

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<v Speaker 1>when you're having a baby, you can have one person

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<v Speaker 1>in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Yeah, So Renee and I walk in and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>is this your support person?

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, yes, yes, this is now. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a photo, a really beautiful photo on my screen. Slave,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just show you. It's me and Renee, and it looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Like can guys make a beautiful couple?

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<v Speaker 3>We look like a couple, So I'm pretty sure this

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretrave when they thought were a couple because we're

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<v Speaker 3>very close. We're very touch and touchy pheely. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think I didn't realize at the time, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>they thought a couple. So then we walk into the

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<v Speaker 3>room to have the old sound, and Renee sits in

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<v Speaker 3>a corner on a chair and they're like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to be that far away, come come closer.

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<v Speaker 2>So she.

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly where this is going.

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<v Speaker 2>So Renee gets out and like comes and sits down,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So she comes and sits down like literally next to

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<v Speaker 3>my tummy, like holding my hand, you know, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>a pregnancy thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, cute, love this for us.

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<v Speaker 3>She's doing the scan and everything and Renee is like

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<v Speaker 3>having gray time. Then she's like, okay, time for the internal.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happens is you have to get an internal

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<v Speaker 3>ultrasound to really check the follicles and count them, and

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<v Speaker 3>Renee and I just like sort of look at each

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<v Speaker 3>other and I just look at it with these eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you're your best friend, you can talk

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<v Speaker 3>to them like you're like without words, You're like.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this cool? So like with my eyes, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's ultrasound tildo in front of you. Are you okay

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<v Speaker 1>with us? I'm jealous that I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have anary Renee sitting there. And I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do that then, and Renee's like.

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<v Speaker 3>She's moving this big white thing up and she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna give She did the ultrasound and everything,

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<v Speaker 3>so then at the end she's like, we're all done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to give you guys a minute, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like she definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Renee's like, mate, I have gone above and beyond for

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<v Speaker 1>your ages. I held just sat through this while you

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<v Speaker 1>got an internal vaginal sound scanned.

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<v Speaker 2>Now she thinks for a couple ribs. So my question is,

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<v Speaker 2>did NAE leave the room while you cleaned yourself up?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know what it's like when you're just coloring

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<v Speaker 1>loub after having an internal with ultra Sanda.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you like, oh, just look.

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<v Speaker 3>We're already there now, now we're already we're so far

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<v Speaker 3>past Like yeah, that's actually the funny thing was it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even that unusual, like now there was felt uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just like, look, I just looked at it

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<v Speaker 2>with my wiggly eyes. I was like, is this cool?

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<v Speaker 2>She wiggled her eyes back.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, this is cool, and we just also

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be uncomfortable, Like I mean, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing something that's sexual in there, Like it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's for your own health. And what I love, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I get so excited about is the fact that,

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<v Speaker 1>like we did that podcast on fertility and so many people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are now going and getting their eggs checked. It's not awkward.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was totally fine to do it on my own,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I went there to do it on my own.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was planned for me to do it on my own.

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<v Speaker 3>But I have to admit, and I will say this

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<v Speaker 3>to anyone that's thinking about it, it was really nice

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<v Speaker 3>to have someone in there doing it with you, because

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<v Speaker 3>it's daunting and it can be sad because part of

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<v Speaker 3>you this like I can't beat I'm just walking down

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<v Speaker 3>this track now, and there's a part of you that's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna think I can't be pever have to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>especially that I have to do this on my own.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was really nice that I feel like it

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<v Speaker 3>was the universe's way of just like if I just

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<v Speaker 3>crash a car and then make a strainer for old

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<v Speaker 3>sound and then we know a best friend or step in.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was, in hindsight, a really nice thing to

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<v Speaker 3>have someone there in the room going through the process

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't it just a testament that you can like

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<v Speaker 1>feel empowered and make a choice in something and be

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<v Speaker 1>like cool, I'm going to take control of my own fertility,

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<v Speaker 1>but then also simultaneously be allowed to feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit sad or a little bit like, oh, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I thought I was going to be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, it's both of those feelings can live simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean that like you shouldn't still feel empowered

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<v Speaker 1>and proud of yourself, but you're also allowed to feel

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit like, ah, all right, we're doing this

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<v Speaker 1>like cool and making some choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, And the other thing is, you guys know,

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<v Speaker 3>for anyone that's like an og life on cart listener,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that we've constantly made jokes about me being

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<v Speaker 3>emotionally void and like not not feeling my many emotions. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>part of this is going off the pill. Now, I

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<v Speaker 3>have been on the pill since I was fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go off the pill. It's been six weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I have cried.

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<v Speaker 1>Stone cold bitch is melting, she's she's long.

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<v Speaker 2>I am like a puddle. I cry over everything. And

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought I was like a low key sociopath,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just like I couldn't feel anything, but I

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<v Speaker 3>feel everything now.

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<v Speaker 1>And you reckon that maybe being on the pill has

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<v Speaker 1>stunted your ability to kind of like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because your hormones go insane when you come off the pill.

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<v Speaker 3>Because now my body doesn't like so the first month,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what happens. Your hormones go a bit nuts

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<v Speaker 3>because they've been suppressed and they've been artificially like monitored

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<v Speaker 3>for more than half of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything just feels more sensitive.

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<v Speaker 3>I will look at a child patting a dog and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it's so cute, and I'll start crying. I

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<v Speaker 3>watched a Christmas watch a Christmas movie with my sister.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait until you're pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's the same thing. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>like it's just this out of whack hormone. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, I just cry all the time. Guys, if

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<v Speaker 3>you see me down the street crying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably fine. Britnan's absolutely fine. I probably just saw

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<v Speaker 2>a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what, You're gonna end up dating the

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<v Speaker 1>next person, and you're gonna be like, I love this man,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna get married and spend the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives together. Because you're not going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally shut down and push him away after four dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're gonna be like, holy shit, this was it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just haven't been able to connect with anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually been so I've actually been in love with

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<v Speaker 3>every single person I've ever met.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't not realize. I just had the bloody

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<v Speaker 2>of what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel on twenty five y has been getting in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of my emotional connection. Okay, so before we jump

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<v Speaker 1>into toxic positivity, which is the topic of today, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for our favorite part of every episode, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is accidentally unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to hit it off? I will hit

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<v Speaker 2>it off? Okay. It starts with fuck my life.

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<v Speaker 3>So my partner and I went out your girlfriend, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got me there, that's enough. My partner and I

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<v Speaker 3>went out together last night for some drinks. All of

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<v Speaker 3>a sudden, I started to get some really bad cramps.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't period pain though, and I knew that straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just gas. I could tell.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went to the toilet and it was so painful.

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<v Speaker 3>The pain is what I imagine the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Of fire would feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>So I ran out to my boyfriend and we just

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<v Speaker 3>went straight home. I was like, we need to go

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I didn't find in front of him, but

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<v Speaker 3>I really really needed help. Then I just remembered seeing

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<v Speaker 3>this video i'd watched a little while ago on how

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<v Speaker 3>to relieve gas from little babies. No, it's the one

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<v Speaker 3>where you lay on It's.

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<v Speaker 2>The one way you lay them on their back and

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<v Speaker 2>you move their legs around like they're riding a bike.

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<v Speaker 1>You pedal their legs, yes, and then they s pushed

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<v Speaker 1>their legs into their belly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You moved their legs around like pedaling a bike,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you push their legs to their chest. So

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<v Speaker 2>I asked him to do that for me. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just so desperate. I was crying from the pain. So

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<v Speaker 2>he did, and then I shout myself while his crutch

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<v Speaker 2>was on top of mine. He laughed. I cried dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell do we get so many farting and shitting stories

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<v Speaker 1>the benchmark.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because it's so relatable, because all these people now

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<v Speaker 3>are realizing that they've had this missed, very very unfortunate moment,

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<v Speaker 3>but then realizing that they're not the only ones having

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<v Speaker 3>these moments. But imagining your boyfriend on you pedaling your

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<v Speaker 3>legs to do a fart, that's bad enough. But then

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<v Speaker 3>you shout yourself, but what.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think was gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? What was going to the I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>she thought you far the best end goal was that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna fart on him, like because like, when has

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<v Speaker 1>anyone seen the farting baby videos? Like you literally stand,

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<v Speaker 1>you hold their feet, and you pedal them and then

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<v Speaker 1>you push both legs back into their belly, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it only works on babies and people who have really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really bad gas. It evidently worked on her, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's a grown ass woman. I have two, actually I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have too. I've got one which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>most innocent and lovely, accidentally unfiltered that we've had in

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time. And then I also have and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they said that. Oh I love when

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<v Speaker 1>you're bringing up I'm back in mad. I'm just here

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<v Speaker 1>with the goods, all right. So I have one This

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<v Speaker 1>is very innocent and it's very sweet. They're always so

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<v Speaker 1>pooh inappropriate. There were sex and pooh and dildos and contacts,

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the good stuff of anal sex. Anyway, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>while since I've said anal sex on the podcast, so

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Just the other day, it was Black

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<v Speaker 1>Friday sales and I went into my favorite shoe store,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in one of the busiest shopping centers. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried on a few pairs of shoes, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed a really cute pair of sandals on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>next to a shoe box that obviously someone had just

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<v Speaker 1>tried on, so I picked them up. They looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they were my side. I can see this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>tried them on. Here I am walking around the shop

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<v Speaker 1>in these cute as pair of shoes that I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent going to buy as soon as i can

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<v Speaker 1>find the price tag, when all of a sudden, this

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<v Speaker 1>lady in her fifties calls out from across the store,

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<v Speaker 1>which is heaving with customers, excuse me, why the hell

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<v Speaker 1>are you wearing my shoes? I had literally put on

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<v Speaker 1>another customer's pair of shoes that, on closer inspection weren't

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<v Speaker 1>even you.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is actually though, that is such an easy

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<v Speaker 2>and there's something to do. I think that would happen

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. No, I'm rare, surely, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I wear my shoes until they're literally falling apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody would ever mistake my shoes for new shoes and

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<v Speaker 1>a shoe shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no one wu want to wear mine. I wear

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<v Speaker 2>those like big reefs that like struck Rund your own

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<v Speaker 2>cool like you, but you made them cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I feel I like them, but I had some

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<v Speaker 3>of my friends pay me out, but I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be my best life. I'm leaving my truth

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm wearing my reef sandal I just like I

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<v Speaker 2>also how Birkenstocks came back in style.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like fifteen years Yeah, but they were like such

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<v Speaker 1>loser shoes and then all of a sudden, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hot people on Instagram started wearing them, and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I need to get birkenstar.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's why I'm gonna keep somebody king. I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 2>them back in.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys might remember a while back we had a

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<v Speaker 1>section on the podcast which just kind of like fleets

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<v Speaker 1>in and fleets out whenever people send us some really

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<v Speaker 1>really good quotes. But we did do a section for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks there which was I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>they said that. And yesterday we got this message over

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<v Speaker 1>DMS on Instagram and I was like, this one really

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<v Speaker 1>takes the cake for me, Brittany. This one was specifically

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<v Speaker 1>dressed to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, it's gonna be a red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was for Brittany, But I'm sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>can both sympathize.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I once saw a psychic who told me that my

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<v Speaker 1>soul is destined to be alone and that I never

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<v Speaker 1>found love in all my previous lives, and if I

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<v Speaker 1>found love in this life, it would be the first

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<v Speaker 1>time my soul has ever been in love. I paid

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty dollars for this. Great inside excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I die alone and never find love and happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>You imagine who says that?

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<v Speaker 2>What is wrong with this? This is why I won't

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<v Speaker 2>go to a psychic. Oh, okay, I've been to a psychic.

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<v Speaker 2>What do they say?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, this is a funny story. I went to a psychic.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why this problem happened to me twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I feel so alone. No, my friend I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to this psychic. She's great, you should go

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<v Speaker 3>to one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Fine, I'm in this weird transition period of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd been broken up with my long timpano, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was dating, and I wanted to be o a seat,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to all these things. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck it, I'll go to a psychic. So I went

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<v Speaker 3>to the psychic. She can't recommend him, and she she

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<v Speaker 3>was asking about my love life and she's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>feeling that you are unsettled.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yes, like literally, because every single

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<v Speaker 1>person who comes to you is feeling unsettled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, reason why they come here.

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<v Speaker 3>Then she's like, I feel like there's two people in

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<v Speaker 3>your life, two men, and they actually were like but men,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like I didn't know which one I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to date, which is the first and last time

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<v Speaker 3>it's ever happened to me. So she says, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>help you. She's like, close your eyes. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>really into this, so I close my eyes. She's like

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<v Speaker 3>the two men.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're have feelings for are on a boat, but

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<v Speaker 1>they can't swim, and I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, I'm gonna have to save someone, and oh there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Hole in the boat and the boat is slowly sinking.

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<v Speaker 1>You can only save one. Who do you save?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, bro, I actually opened my eyes

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I would save both of them

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm a good human.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, you can't. You can only save one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, this is not what a psychic does.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. It was this big bullshit saga about trying to

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<v Speaker 2>save one, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, maybe this is a really deep way

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe I'm supposed to meet someone that's on a

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<v Speaker 1>boat or like I was trying to like find an end.

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<v Speaker 2>To it means like there's a third man coming with

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<v Speaker 2>a super.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I went back a year later to the

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<v Speaker 3>same psychic and she did the exact same thing, word

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<v Speaker 3>for word, and then I was like, this is bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you're just repeating. She's forgotten that it

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<v Speaker 3>was me. It's obviously just her spiel that she does

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<v Speaker 3>to every single person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I also had a very very similar experience for psychic,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe it was the same one you guys have. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>we've had people right in being like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>get a psychic on to tell like your fortunes, fortune's futures.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know give us like the Lucky lottery

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<v Speaker 1>nuther fortune. I'm really skeptic about it, Like I find

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<v Speaker 1>it really difficult to be open to it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have gone and spoken to psychics, usually when I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in a period in my life where I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a fork in the road and they needed to

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<v Speaker 1>choose something and I couldn't make that decision on my own,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted someone to like appease my bad decision making.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing is, even if it's a placebo, that's

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes why we go. It's like sometimes you want someone

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<v Speaker 3>to just say, yeah, you're doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, or you want someone to answer the questions for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost I'm not discounting it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I do think that there are some people out

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<v Speaker 3>there in the world that do get feelings, They do

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<v Speaker 3>speak to people in another world, they do get these

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<v Speaker 3>feelings with people's past lives. I do think there are

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<v Speaker 3>those people, but I think there are so many people

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<v Speaker 3>taking people for a ride, for sure, Like you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be very skeptical, you have take everything with a

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<v Speaker 3>grain of salt unless they're really hitting things that are

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<v Speaker 3>impossible for them to know. But I do think, Laura,

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<v Speaker 3>that that is a good idea. I think we should

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<v Speaker 3>if any of you guys know a really good psychic.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, they have to approven themselves to you.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to, they have to had to have said

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<v Speaker 3>something to you that was so crazy that you're like this.

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<v Speaker 2>No one else could know this.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to know who that is because I think

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be really fun to get them in on an episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm open to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely know that there are things in this world

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<v Speaker 1>that like don't have rhyme or reason, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>do not everything logical, and that people have can tap

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<v Speaker 1>into things that I certainly can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I have full appreciation for that.

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<v Speaker 1>However, I'm still skeptical when people try and tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what they can see about my life, Like I'm a

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>bit closed off to what I think. However, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if any of you guys remember this, but this

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>was from my season of Batch. On one of my

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.400
<v Speaker 1>minor Matt single days, we had to go and see

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<v Speaker 1>a psychic that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like our single date that we had, remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we sat down with a psychic and the psychic said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys look like you have a lot of physical chemistry,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, I don't know if there's anything more there

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<v Speaker 1>other than physical chemistry. And I was like, I go,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see flash four three years. You don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>sex anymore. Now, he's not here for the physical chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That woman who is the psychic on our season has

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<v Speaker 1>been back over the last three seasons as like a

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<v Speaker 1>different role. So she was a love coach on one

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<v Speaker 1>episode and she's she's literally just an actor the Channel

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>ten hires, and I felt so betrayed when she came

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<v Speaker 1>back as a love coach in the seven season. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's our psychic, dressed very different with a

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<v Speaker 1>different name.

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<v Speaker 2>I recognize her. Let's be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh a different name, different name. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 3>let's be optimistic. Maybe she went and studied further. Maybe

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 3>she has multiple professions.

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like what we do. No, she had a different

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<v Speaker 1>name and a different wig.

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 2>She was an actress.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure was the same person. Oh my god, you just

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>blew up the Bachelor franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't believe anything on TV, guys, It's not real. Oh

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 2>it is, You're in love?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, guys, it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the real meaty part of the episode. And

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned at the beginning today we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about toxic positivity.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what is toxic positivity? Do you ask? I asked

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. It's not a term.

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you ask who was asking?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I just asked whoever wanted to answer me?

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I asked this, I thought you knew, and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>prepped for this episode. Well, no, because I I knew.

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I did. That's why I brought it up.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was a term that I was thrown around

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 3>by my sister. And It's like I always knew what

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 3>it was, but I never knew it had a proper label,

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 3>and I'd never gone into depth. I'd never studied it

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 3>and researched it, and I never knew just how bad

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 3>it could be.

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<v Speaker 2>I never knew how prevalent it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, a lot of you probably haven't heard of toxic positivity.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 3>That's okay, because I'm going to tell you what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Toxic positivity refers to the concept that keeping positive and

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 3>keeping positive only.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the right way to live your life.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 1>It means only focusing on positive things and rejecting anything

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that may trigger negative emotions. So essentially, all those things

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, all these people that are always saying good vibes,

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>only keep your chin up, You'll be okay, Tomorrow's a

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>new day.

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>You've got this. That's all fantastic.

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 3>We all love a bit of a pick me up

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 3>and a bit of positivity, but toxic positivity is the

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 3>idea that that is the only way to live your life.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 3>And if you're ever feeling down, you're not allowed to

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 3>sit in that emotion. You're not allowed to explore that emotion.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 3>You're allowed to put it out publicly that you're having

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 3>a hard time, that you need help, that you want

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>to talk about something deep by that's going on with you.

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 3>And we're seeing this so much in a lot of

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 3>aspects in life, but so much on social media right now,

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 3>and that's why.

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>We wanted to jump in and have a little flesh

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>out chat today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess also like we live in a society,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because of Instagram, where we put happiness on a

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 1>pedestal and we talk about happiness so much like you

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>should be happy, you should stay positive because you know,

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're it's like almost like if you're happy, like

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>you're enlightened. But it's not possible for happiness to exist

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>on its own. Like happiness, it exists amongst all the

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>other emotions that we have in the world, you know,

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>like grief and sadness.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 2>And fear and anxiety.

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.479
<v Speaker 1>All of these feelings are just as relevant and prevalent

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>as happiness. And I think that like it's impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>just be happy and stay positive all the time without

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<v Speaker 1>the shade that comes from those other more slightly negative emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily emotions that you should always shy away from,

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>because there are situations in life, there are days, there

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>are times, there are things that you will experience where

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>all of those negative emotions are completely valid, And when

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you are presented by someone who almost dismisses the way

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you feel or dismisses the situation that you're in because

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they want you to be happy, that's when toxic positivity

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<v Speaker 1>comes into place. So an example of this would be

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<v Speaker 1>imagine like going to your girlfriend about something that's happened

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>in your life, like maybe you've just lost your job,

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe a pet has passed away, something that is significant,

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>but it could also be something that's not as significant.

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>You could just be having a really shitty day, right,

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 1>which you're entitled to have when we're all entitled to have.

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Imagine going to someone who you care about and saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>this has happened to me and I'm feeling pretty shit

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>about it, and their response being oh, you know what,

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so fine, You're totally going to find another job

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>in a couple of weeks time, like, don't even worry

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>about it, and therefore not allowing you the time to

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<v Speaker 1>be at least that little bit of like feeling that

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>fear or feeling that anxiety instead of saying, Hey, this

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>situation is really shit. I'm really sorry this has happened

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to you. Do you want to talk about it? It's

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like you're being denied the ability to have those emotions

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is, Okay, you lose your job.

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you might find another job in a month, but

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't take away from the fact that right now

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 3>you've lost your job, and right now you're scared about

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>where your money's going to come from, and right now

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 3>you're worried that you might not get another job. What

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 3>it does is just not let you actually experience a

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 3>completely normal human emotion like you just said, Laura, We're

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 3>expected to be happy all the time, and we are

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 3>taught that happiness is success.

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Happiness one hundred percent is success.

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 3>But no one can go through life without feeling at

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 3>a rollercoaster of emotions. You're to get to where you are,

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 3>to be who you are, to be successful, you need

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 3>to experience failure. We're all going to experience failure. We're

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 3>all going to experience pain at some time, but it

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 3>can actually be really detrimental to not let yourself sit

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 3>in that and feel it. And toxic positivity can take

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 3>a few different forms, so I'm just going to tell

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 3>you a couple of them. It can literally be a

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 3>family member who chastises you for having any form of frustration.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Instead of asking why you're upset, they'll say, get over it.

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>It can be a comment like, oh, look.

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 3>On the bright side, be grateful for what you have. Okay,

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 3>so you don't have a job, but you've got someone

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 3>that loves you, like you should be grateful for that.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that'd be grateful for what you have. One

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is really massive, like that's the one that sticks out

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to me is like a real sort of I mean

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>red flag and this whole idea of toxic positivity because

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you can be grateful for what you have

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in life and still be sad about something that you

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't get. Like those things can coexist at the same time.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>But by like denying someone the right to feel sad

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and telling them that they should only be grateful all

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the time just means that that you're trying to shut

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>down somebody else's human reaction to a situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and don't get me wrong, I'm a big advocate.

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 3>I do think it's really important to remember what you

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 3>have all the time. But that's just to put things

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 3>back into perspective in your life. It's not to take

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 3>away from the fact that you're not experiencing a loss.

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 3>It's literally just to say, you know what, I do

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 3>have a lot to be grateful for. It's still just

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 3>to try and I guess plateau. You might have really

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 3>bad things that happen in your life. You might have

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>really great things in your life. It's just to bring

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 3>you back to a happy medium and be like, you

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 3>know what, I can get through this. You can still

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 3>be sad, but you're like, I do have a lot

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 3>of good things that I'm working towards, and I'll try

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 3>and redirect my focus. Some other things are and this

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 3>is everywhere on Instagram and Facebook and social media. It's

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>all these perpetual memes and these Instagram pages that are

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 3>just constantly in your face about being happy, the good

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>vibes only changing your outlook on life. I have unfollowed

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 3>pages like that. I used to follow them because I

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 3>love them. I used to be that person that used

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 3>to want to throw out all these great quotes. The

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 3>older I get now and the more life experience I get,

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to share the downs of life, and we

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:49.959
<v Speaker 3>share them on the podcast.

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why we started it, because we were.

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know what, We want people to realize that

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it's okay not to be okay.

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>It's okay to.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Go through all these really really really hard times and

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to be able to talk to someone about it.

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>And Laura and I are really good with letting.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.479
<v Speaker 3>Each other feel bad feelings and letting each other feel upset,

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 3>and letting each other sit in that we don't try

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 3>and always say, you know, you'll be fine, look.

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 2>On the bright side, Tomorrow's a new day. We actually

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>are like, fuck, that's fucking shit.

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I think just what I said to you, I genuinely

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>think that's a learned experience though, because like, I don't

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>think I used to be like that. I and this

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't my my reaction to trying to help someone or

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to like give advice when someone would tell me

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that something was wrong, particularly friends, I have learnt in

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>my age and in my experience, what is a better

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.719
<v Speaker 1>way to approach situations purely because when something bad has

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>happened to me and I have received those words back

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>from somebody else, it's made me feel like shit. So

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 1>what I mean is is like back in the day,

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>when my girlfriends would say to me, oh, I'm really

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>upset about X, Y and Z, it would be my

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>natural preset to try and fix it and be like, oh,

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it's this is okay because you've got this and like

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you should focus on these things. And I was definitely

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the person who would try and mask what they were

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>going through, not because I didn't care about the way

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>they felt, Like of course I could recognize that they

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 1>were sad, but I wanted to fix it. Like there

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was a part of me that was like, oh, let's

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>if I can you know, fix this problem, or I

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>can make you see the good things in your life.

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to be so sad. But sometimes as

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>a friend, and sometimes in all aspects and all relationships

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that you have, you don't need to fix a problem.

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>You just need to allow someone to feel sad. And

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>when someone comes to you to speak to you about

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>something that's happened to them, they're not expecting you to

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>have an answer. They're just expecting almost a sounding board.

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>And I know that I've already mentioned this in this

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>episode earlier, but like I learned that lesson when I

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>went through my miscarriages and what happened with me. For

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>anyone who hasn't listened to that episode was I spoke

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to a really close girlfriend of mine about it, and

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>she very quickly wrapped the conversation up, and and I

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to talk to her because I was I

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>was really struggling at the time. And she said, you

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>know what, this baby wasn't meant this earth. There was

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>obviously something wrong with it, so like you should be

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 1>happy that you know this happened, because obviously the baby

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>would have had problems. And I was like, fuck, yeah,

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of course I don't. I don't want to have a

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>baby that has, you know, health issues. I don't want

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a baby whose life is going to be hard. But

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I still want to be able to be sad about

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the fact that this has happened. I don't want you

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to tell me to not be sad right now. I

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>just want to have my feelings validated. And that was

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>probably the first time in my life that I had

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>experienced toxic positivity really directly back at me, without without

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>really thinking about maybe I had done it in the past,

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and like, I know that she didn't do it as

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>an intentional thing, and I know that that her absolute

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>intention at heart was because she felt uncomfortable by me

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>being sad.

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's what we do in our society.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I think we have created an environment and we've created

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 1>relationships where we are not comfortable with other people's pain

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and other people's hurt, and it makes us feel a

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>bit like what are we gonna do now? And so

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>we had this instant default to try and fix everything,

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you just don't need to fix things. It's

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>definitely a learned behavior, and it's definitely, like you said,

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there's never any ill intention behind someone that says things

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like you know, you've got all these other things to

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>look forward.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow's a new day. There's definitely not ill intentioned.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's why it's so important to talk

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>about it now. It's because people do want to just

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 3>take your pain away. They want to brush any discomfort

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 3>under the carpet. Nobody wants to sit there and have

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 3>an awkward conversation while their friends crying and not know

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>what to do.

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>But it may not have ill intentioned, but it's very dismissive.

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing that wanted to unpack on this

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is y idea that by not validating it, you're dismissing

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.720
<v Speaker 1>it and you're not giving a voice to that person's sadness.

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And it also means that they can't move through it

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>as quickly as what they would want to, or what

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>they might be able to if they were actually able

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to feel those emotions properly.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I remember you told me you had your first miscarriage.

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I remember you told me, and I just went, fuck

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 3>that fucking sucks.

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And that was literally the only thing that you can say.

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 3>And that was it because I was like, because there's

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 3>nothing else to say in that situation, like nothing you

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 3>can say, and I haven't experienced it, so it's not

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I can relate it to myself.

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And there was actually a really interesting study that was

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>done in twenty eighteen and it was around emotional acceptance.

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>And one of the quotes that came out of this

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>study is that if you are always trying to be positive,

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you if you are like I have to be happy

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of the time and no other emotion

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give life to or give value to,

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>then what that does is actually creates something called meta emotions,

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's basically like feeling an emotion about an emotion.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So if you feel like you're having a shit day

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>and you're sad, or you're sad for no reason, like

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, we all have days where sometimes something

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.919
<v Speaker 1>has gotten to us and we've just feel a bit low,

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, things in our life are great, and maybe

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>we don't feel justified to have a low day because

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like there's way worse things happening to whole lot of

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>other people out there. But then you end up feeling

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>guilty or you end up feeling disappointed on top of

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that original feeling that you have, so you feel bad

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that you feel bad. One of the

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>most prime example that we've seen of toxic positivity, which

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I think like everyone will be able to identify is

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and how he has handled coronavirus and him

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>running around being like everything's fine, there's no problem here,

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we're beating it. Everything is great. This

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>like constant projection that everything is awesome when things are

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>not awesome really invalidates one people's fear around it. It

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>also invalidates people's loss, Like hundreds of thousands of people

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>have died in America, and it means that like these

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the people who are suffering and the people who feel

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.720
<v Speaker 1>fear are being told that they're silly fulfilling that because

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 1>everything is great.

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Just I mean, you take what anything Donald Trump says

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 3>with a grain of salt, right, But I.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Mean when someone who's like in a leadership position and

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>they are showing toxic positivity, it's like, I think that

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>that's when it can become really dangerous. And we also

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>see in other aspects as well. I think a really

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 1>good example of it. We hear about a lot of

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>people who have cured themselves through whatever medical ailment. It

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>might be whether they have cancer or they have a

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>terminal illness and they've decided to go off medicine that

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>has been tried and tested and has all of this

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>research studies behind it because they want to embrace maybe

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 1>some more natural healing, but also this positive thinking and

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>this idea that being positive is enough to be able

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>to heal our bodies and actually put us back onto

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like a path of health. And maybe there is an

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>odd case out there where something has happened where that

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>person has been healed, but I guarantee you that for

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>every case where somebody has been healed from positive thinking,

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a hundred other cases where someone

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.959
<v Speaker 1>has passed away because they haven't gone down the path

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of what's been advised to them with traditional medicine. So

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>positive thinking can actually be really dangerous as well. You know,

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes these negative feelings that we have our body's warning

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>system that something is wrong, that there is other things

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that you need to take into account in your life.

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's what gives you balance, It's what warns you

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>against danger. It's what stops you from like making terrible

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>decisions and just walking blindly into everything is roses and

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>everything is amazing.

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, this idea of it's fine, it's fine, everything fine,

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, I'm fine. It's the most common statement isn't it.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 2>How are you going like, No, I'm so fine, it's fine.

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh you lost your job. Yeah, but it'll be fine,

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 2>it's fine.

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 3>What this does is can actually exacerbate negative feelings purely

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 3>because you're not letting yourself work through your deep seated issues.

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Like we all have things that we need to work through.

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 3>But if you cover those up with a blanket and

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 3>pretend they don't exist, they're.

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Going to fester.

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 3>They absolutely will fester, and it will come out and

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 3>be very detrimental. There's a woman called Natalie Detillo. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a clinical health psychologist at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston,

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 3>and I just thought she explained it really well. She says,

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<v Speaker 3>think of it as having a few too many scoops

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 3>of ice cream. It's really good and it makes us

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 3>feel better, But then you can overdo it, she said,

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Then it makes you feel a little bit sick. But

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 3>then imagine trying shove that ice cream into somebody's face

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 3>when they don't feel like having ice cream. Or imagine

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 3>if they were like dairy intolerant and you're trying to

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>shove this ice cream into them. It's gonna make them,

0:40:57.880 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna make them feel shit, They're gonna feel sick

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 3>feeding too much ice cream, They're saying, She's saying. It's

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 3>the same thing with all these really positive memes about

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 3>not letting yourself sit in your emotions. And I just

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 3>thought that was like a really interesting way of saying,

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 3>don't shove it onto someone all the time.

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>We know this, We know this through relationships. We know

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 1>this through like so many of the other conversations we've had,

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>where like if you push something down and you don't

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>recognize it, it'll only come up bigger later and down

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 1>the track, right, Like we see this in relationships, if

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't talk about the problems you're having, if you

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.479
<v Speaker 1>don't communicate those issues, have open dialogue where you feel better,

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you feel recognized, you feel seen, and then then you

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>can move forward from it. Those problems don't go away,

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>they don't just dissolve because you've been super positive about it.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>They come back and they rear their ugly head and

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>they're ten times worse because they're being compounded by this

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>neglect as well. But I think, like this conversation is

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>really interesting because I do think as a society, the

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 1>language that we use, like when you said I'm fine.

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Like this idea of saying I'm fine, I think we

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.839
<v Speaker 1>use language that doesn't really allow people to talk about

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>their feelings because we are, like we said earlier, so

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>concerned about making people feel uncomfortable. Then another prime example

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of this is, like every day we do it with

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>We do it in shops, we do it with people

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that we see on the street, like we do it

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 1>in very casual conversations. We say, hey, how are you going,

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and we expect the answer to be I'm fine, I'm good.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 1>You never expect someone to say to you, actually, I'm

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>not feeling great. I'm having a really hard day. So

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>then why do we ask it? Why do we ask

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>such a casual question about how someone is when we

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>really don't actually care about the answer. It's because it's become.

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 2>This polite, it's a pleasantry. It's a greeting almost now,

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>how are you is almost We don't actually want to

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>know how they are. It's it's like a greeting.

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.240
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna walk into Gloria Jeans and be like, oh, actually,

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm having a really fucking hard day, Like my boyfriend

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>just broke up with me, I lost my job, and

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling pretty sad?

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to talk about it? People are down?

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people do that and then you're like, WHOA, I

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:51.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to actually know?

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>How are they are paying three dollars forty for a

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>cafe latte, you are not paying for therapy session. But

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I think like this is something that we can be

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>conscious of because language is really important, and the language

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that we use allows someone to talk about their feelings

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.959
<v Speaker 1>or its stifles someone's feelings. And if someone is having

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a really really hard time and we're like, hey, how

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you going, and they have to be like I'm fine

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>when they're not fine, Like that can add to it

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>as well.

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's not.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Something I really thought about until I was actually in

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>my own store the other day and I was having

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>this very like trivial, transient conversation with someone where I

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, all the niceties and the pleasantries,

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but I was like thinking about this topic because obviously

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about it, And I was like,

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>why do I ask that? Why do I say how

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>how are you? When I clearly don't care about the answer.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 2>It's food for thought, isn't it?

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know where we would go with a

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>greeting other than Hi, how you going? Hi?

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 3>I hope you are having a great day. No, I

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 3>hope you are having a great day. Like I like

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 3>the idea of it, but maybe it's impractical. But it's

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 3>only impractical. It's because we've made how you're going so common?

0:43:59.080 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Sing.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you just about this study because

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>we love studies here at life on com. We're well researched.

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>This is a well researched, oiled machine, guys.

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I just find it really interesting. There was a ten

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 3>year Stanford study and it found that denying negative feelings

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 3>as a coping mechanism was linked to high levels of depression.

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 3>So those people that didn't let themselves feel their pain,

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.320
<v Speaker 3>that didn't let themselves have any negative emotions, that constantly

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 3>said I'm fine was linked to higher levels of depression.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Another study in twenty eleven found that people actually felt

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 3>more sad when others expected them not.

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 2>To feel negative emotions such a sadness.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's that thing right when you Okay, if I

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 1>tell you look at this drink bottle, Now, don't think

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 1>about the drink bottle. You can think about anything else

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 1>but that drink bottle. When you try and tell your

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>brain not to think about something. When you tell your

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>brain not to do it, you are going to focus

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 1>on it three hundred times more So, like if you're

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>telling yourself, you know what, don't be sad about that breakup.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 1>You can just get on with it. You can exercise,

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you can just ignore it, and the pain will go away.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't go away. Sometimes things happen and you have

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to sit in that pain, and the only way out

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of it is through it. And we do feel that, Yes,

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be times where you can mask it

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 1>with doing different activities.

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>You can mask with partying, you can mask it with drinking.

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>You can mask with going out with the hot guy

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and having really great sex.

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>You can mask be targing me.

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>That you can mask emotions, but the only way to

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 1>really kind of get through to the other side is

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>actually feeling the spectrum of feelings that you have, and

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>no feelings are bad. I think the important thing to

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>know is that everything has an equilibrium, so long as

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that being positive and being happy is something that's on

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 1>your equilibrium, so long as that's fifty percent of your life,

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you have all the other emotions that are

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>scattered around for the other fifty percent, then I think

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that that's a really healthy balance. But to think that

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to be happy all the time, it's just

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 1>this most absolutely outrageously unrealistic standard that we've set for ourselves.

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 2>It is so brought on by social media as well.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>One thing that I personally see is like mummy bloggers

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and how unrealistic parenting looks like on social media, and

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>how I and I know it's not real, but I

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>see it. I think other people are just fucking killing it.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I look at my shithole of the house

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and how nothing works and my kid's constantly sick and

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.759
<v Speaker 1>this clothes everywhere, and I think I'm failing because I'm

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>not living in this perfection of bliss. And I think

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff ties into this real ethos of

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>toxic positivity that ends up making people feel worse about themselves,

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>not better.

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Rant and stand No, I completely agree.

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 3>But the one thing I took out from that was

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 3>when you were like, when you're like, I put the drip.

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Boil here and I'll tell you don't look at it,

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and all you can do is looking at it.

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like when you tell I've ready to my friend

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.399
<v Speaker 3>down the street the other day, this guy, and we're

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 3>just chatting, and the harshest guy I have ever seen

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.320
<v Speaker 3>was like right behind him, and I just I stopped

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 3>mid conversation and I was like, oh my god, don't look,

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>but the hot exky ever is behind you. And immediately

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 3>he whips his head around, he goes where and I'm like,

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and the guy was half a meter away and he

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 3>looked Blake and me.

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you just fuck I just I got

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>him out of bond right now. Thanks, look what you've done.

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, when someone says to.

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>You like, don't touch it, don't touch it, don't do it,

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>don't look at it, all you want to do is

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>be like I need to look so bad all you

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>want to do. It becomes like the main focus. That's

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>why you can't say to someone, hey, there's someone really

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>hot behind you. Of course they're going to turn around.

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I just really like this one quote that I want

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to throw in before we get into some ways to

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>deal with toxic positivity, and that is recognize that how

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling is valid no matter what, and it's okay

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to not be okay, So don't beat yourself up about it.

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>If you're having a day where you know what you

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.839
<v Speaker 1>are struggling. It doesn't make you ungrateful. It doesn't mean

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that you don't appreciate all the other wonderful things in

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>your life. It doesn't mean that your life isn't wonderful.

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 1>It just means that you're allowed to feel everything that

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you feel.

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<v Speaker 3>We all want to feel better than we do when

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 3>we're feeling shitty, but you can't. I can't put that

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 3>pressure in yourself to constantly be on a high. So

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 3>first of all, just recognize that.

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Just be like, you know what, I.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 3>Feel shit and that's okay. Similarly, if your friend has

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 3>come to you and said that they feel shit, you

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 3>need to let you need to recognize that as well.

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>You need to acknowledge that.

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 3>You need to say, you know what, I'm so sorry

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 3>you feel shit, what's happening, what's happening in your life?

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:22.520
<v Speaker 2>What can we do about it? And it's going to

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>take you down a whole other conversation with them on

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:26.839
<v Speaker 2>what you can do to help them, and just let them.

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't take that away from them, because that's what it is.

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 2>It's literally saying you're not entitled to feel that when

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 2>this person obviously has just said I fucking feel that, like,

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 2>this is what I'm feeling. Things are.

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel like when you read them and

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 3>when I tell you them, you're gonna say, like, yeah,

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 3>these all seem very obvious. These are all very obvious things.

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 3>It's just that we don't do them. We don't allow

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 3>ourselves to do them, and we don't do.

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Them to other people.

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 3>But it's literally keeping the attention on the other person.

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 3>If they've come to you with their problem, don't relate

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 3>it back to you. Don't say, well, I know when

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I did this, and I know when I lost my job.

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 3>That is nice, but right now, you can get to

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 3>that later. Right now, it's about them. It's about the

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 3>job that they've lost, and they don't want to know

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 3>how you got through and succeeded and now have this

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 3>wonderful life. They just want you to listen to them

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 3>and validate their feeling ask what they need, let them

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>let them tell you their problems, ask them what they need,

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 3>validate their feelings. You could say things like, what will

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 3>be the most helpful thing I can do for you?

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:23.879
<v Speaker 2>I understand this situation is really hard.

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Sitting your feelings feel it you feel shit, feel fucking shit,

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 3>validate it. Yeah, And it's like they all seem so simple,

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 3>but you don't have to like slap your face and

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 3>get yourself out of it and go for a run

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 3>and be like, yeah, I love life, like sitting in

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 3>your bed and cry if you want, if that's what,

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 3>if that's what your body needs right now.

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>This year twenty twenty has been a real year of

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>toxic positivity, where people are like, use this time to

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>start a new business and do this and do that,

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and maybe, like this conversation would have been great for

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning of the pandemic when there was all

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of this like let's try and look on the bright

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>side of things. But sometimes when you're like working from

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>home in a tiny one bedroom studio and you have

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a child that's no longer going to school, like there's

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>just so many aspects where you're like, it's not possible

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>for me to use this time productively, right, there's so

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>many things where you like and I was seeing on

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.160
<v Speaker 1>social media where I was like the Gwyneth Paltrow thing

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>where she's like, make sure you use this time to

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>better yourself, Like we're never going to get a time

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>like this again in our lives and by I'm my

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:21.799
<v Speaker 1>fifteen thousand dollars vagina candle and steam, you're a vagina.

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I hope we never have another

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>time like this in my life, Like I need to

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>go to work in my office, I need to be

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:29.240
<v Speaker 1>able to send my kid to daycare, like I need

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>those creature comforts that a pandemic doesn't allow me to thrive,

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>in which I'm sure a bazillion other people felt exactly

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the same. So my big pointer is remove people from

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 1>social media whose lives seem so perfect and who are

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>so positive and so polished that it makes you feel

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>shit about yourself, because that is a whole other form

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.720
<v Speaker 1>of toxic positivity. And it's not that you're being invalidated,

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's the comparison that everybody else's life is perfect

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and great and everything like radiates on this high frequency

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of happines and then you don't match up to that.

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:03.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that is something that we experience

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>all the time with social media, is this idea that

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 1>like we're not quite enough.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's our favorite saying, isn't it. Comparison is the

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:10.840
<v Speaker 2>thief of joy, that's.

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Your favorite sand baby, But I really like it too.

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I love it, but it's the truth. Absolutely is the truth.

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>So I think, like it's always good to do a

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:19.800
<v Speaker 1>social media clear out, cleanse your life of that bullshit

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and just like get some real people who are authentic

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and genuine and show the light and they show the

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>shade and they show the shit and they show the

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 1>great stuff.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what you need.

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 3>I hope this has giving you some food for thought,

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 3>and I hope you've sort of having a look at

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>your own life and your friend's life and think about

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 3>the way you react to someone that comes to you

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 3>with a problem. Next time, you might be a little

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 3>bit more hyper aware of the way you speak to

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 3>them or the way you deal with the situation.

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what we wanted to do.

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 3>We just wanted to break your attention that you might

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 3>not have realized that you were even doing it, or

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 3>you might not realize that there are people in your

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:53.439
<v Speaker 3>life doing it to you.

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>But now you know what, I want to wrap this up.

0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 3>We're the quote that I like, as I know, you know,

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I love to finish on high deep.

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just a short one, but positivity, love and.

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Laugh, and we're gonna stick it on the wall with

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 1>some drift wood. Positivity must live alongside compassion. Oh, I

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 1>love that I read that as well. Actually, and you're

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>reading my research because I wrote it in the know.

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I read it in the article that.

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 2>You read it from.

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, positivity must live alongside and compassion. I love that

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 3>they go hand in hand. Do you want to unpack

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 3>that a little bit?

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Not really, I think we just did in the whole episode,

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't we.

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Positivity lives alongside compassions.

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 2>You can't have one without the other. I know.

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's just leave the quote is the quote?

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I hope you all learned something.

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for coming to our ted talk.

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, you know that we never finished an

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 1>episode without our suck and our sweet, our highlight and

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:54.240
<v Speaker 1>our low light of each and every single week. Brittany,

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you look like you're still thinking about it, so I

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>can got it?

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right? What is your suck? Okay?

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I stuck with my car break down at midnight after

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 3>a really long shift that's gonna cost me thousands of

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 3>dollars and I've been three days without a car now,

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 3>hands down my speaking so quickly. I did that on

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:09.480
<v Speaker 3>purpose because I was just trying to get my stuck out.

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, just so you guys are aware, Brittany owns like

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 1>the bougiest of boogiest fucking car. She owns a range

0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Rover and it broke down. And when she called me

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to tell me, she's only had it three year and

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a half. When she called me to tell me that

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.280
<v Speaker 1>it broke down, I was like, I owned a Hayundai

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Excel that I ran on literally the smell of gas.

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even put any water in it. I didn't

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 2>put any oil in it.

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't put anything in it for probably six years,

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was certain it was good.

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 2>It never blew up.

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.240
<v Speaker 1>The thing was like the most reliable car I've ever owned.

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it cost me about five thousand dollars. I

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 1>had that car for so long until I ran it

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 1>into another car. Mine and technicality, minor, minor detail, but

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like how does a range how does a range Rover break?

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Those things tell you they're like, hey, something's wrong, something's wrong,

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>something's wrong.

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Seven weeks beforehand.

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I've got the same questions, why is it broken?

0:53:58.280 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Range Rover?

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 3>If you're listening, dms no, I had a Jeep that

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I bought for five grand. It was like one of

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 3>my first cars. Like you just said, it just lasted forever.

0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I didn't do anything to it. It was the oldest car.

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:10.120
<v Speaker 3>It was so so good.

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I went and treated myself and look what happened. Anyway,

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that's my sack, My sweet was. We need some dating stories.

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>We need some like good romance. I need uh you

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>got you got blasted by an ultrasound device in front

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of your girlfriend and all of me above?

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:27.799
<v Speaker 2>Can I have all over?

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Nah?

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>My sweet was?

0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I went to breakfast the other day and someone bought

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 3>me a cookie from Bennett Street Deairy.

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't take much, does it? That's it?

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I was like what I was just like it was

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 3>a really kind gesture, like I was just in a line.

0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:45.920
<v Speaker 2>They brought me cookie. Now that you know me.

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:47.200
<v Speaker 3>It was just like, you know, I'll get that for you.

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, that's so cute, so now I've

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 3>got to pay it forward. That wasn't even trying to

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:53.240
<v Speaker 3>get my pants.

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I believe that. I feel like

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>he was trying to get in your pants and the

0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty.

0:54:58.320 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Bad at that.

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.359
<v Speaker 1>But it was like at your number and you were like, oh,

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm number seven in line waiting for my coffee. What

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>like my bumble video exactly?

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, that was mine? You tell me yours? Okay, my suck.

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh look, I'm gonna sound like a real complainer, but

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 1>like I already told you that I felt like I

0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>was going into labor.

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>That was pretty sucky. That lot sucky.

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Mat had gastro most of this week, which I know

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys know because you listened to last episode. Mary

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>also had gastro. And then I did the stupidest thing.

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I left my phone on top of my car.

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes you did. So.

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 1>I was getting out of my car the other day

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and I like, I had just had lots of bags

0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and I had Maley, and I put my phone onto

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.440
<v Speaker 1>my car and then I went inside and I left

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>my car on the street. And about four hours later,

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:42.959
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, where's my phone. Can't find it,

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>must be in the car. Go out to my car.

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.239
<v Speaker 1>This also is kind of my sweet as well. Go

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>out to my car and there's a note on my

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 1>car and somebody had found my phone sitting on top

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of the car.

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 2>They had left a note.

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But it just meant I had to drive like several

0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>suburbs away to go pick it. Up, which is really

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 1>not even a suck. It's a sweet. That is like

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>completely a sweet. I found my phone after losing it

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>for hours.

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:06.280
<v Speaker 3>That's actually a very funny that you left your phone on.

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 2>The roof of your car.

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I do it all the time. I have left my

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 1>phone on my car for an entire day at the

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>office and left it parked on Oxford Street and nobody

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>took it.

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Now you're lucky. That's actually really that's a

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 2>good deed.

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.800
<v Speaker 1>You've got to pass a deed on too now because

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:22.239
<v Speaker 1>they did a good deed for you. Do I have

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>to go buy a hot guy a cookie, Yeah, and

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>then get his number for me. Anyway, guys, that is

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 1>it for this week's episode. I'm sorry that we had

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 1>to do the little switcheroo this week and that we

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>brought this out on the Thursday. But still, variety is

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the zest of life. Maybe this really put a spring

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 1>in your step today. Variety is the zest of life?

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that the saying I don't think it is, No,

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:46.399
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the something of life.

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 2>It's the spice of life. Well it could be the

0:56:48.560 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 2>zest as well, guys.

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Laura does have one other thing and that I'm just

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:55.399
<v Speaker 3>gonna reminder of that, she wants to say.

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is like a little bit of housekeeping.

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>This made me a bit sad, but I'm sad to

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.400
<v Speaker 1>end on in a low note, but I'm gonna I

0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 1>want to share it with you guys because I know

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that this is something that's happened as one of those

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>situations in life where you just kind of don't think

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>about how your actions might like lead to somebody else

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>feeling bad. Okay, Basically, we absolutely love and adore all

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of you guys who have been organizing meetup groups and

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you've been doing life on cut meetups all across Australia.

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.000
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. Nothing makes us happier.

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it feels us with so much joy. We cannot

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>freaking wait until there's one organized in Sydney because we.

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 2>May come and crash it one day.

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But I got a message from somebody who had organized

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a meetup in I won't say where because they don't

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>want to make this a big thing about who didn't

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:43.919
<v Speaker 1>come or anything, but they'd organized a meet up, many

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<v Speaker 1>people had RSBPID and then on the day of the meetup,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody actually canceled or didn't say that they were coming,

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<v Speaker 1>but literally nobody but one person showed up and they

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to me and they were quite upset about it.

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<v Speaker 1>They felt really rejected, and like, you know, we talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about ghosting on this podcast, we talk a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about how we treat our romantic relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think just in this instance.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this probably just this thought that like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't matter if I don't RSVP or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't cancel, because somebody else is gonna go, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna miss just me. But obviously what's happened is

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody's had that same thought. Nobody has messaged on

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<v Speaker 1>the data say that they weren't gonna come, and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Reminder that like, we don't organize these meetups, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have control over them, but we really love that there's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's inclusive where everybody feels like they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>make friends that have common goals and they have common

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<v Speaker 1>like ideologies, and we just really hope that everyone continues

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<v Speaker 1>to feel supportive in that. So if you do say

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna go to a meetup and you decide

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't go for whatever reason, life gets busy,

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<v Speaker 1>spanner in the works, just write a message like I

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<v Speaker 1>just send a little text I can't come.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes for any part of life, Like would you

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<v Speaker 3>ever do that? If you were going to meet up

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<v Speaker 3>your friend for coffee? Would you just not go? No,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd see you send them a message like I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm big on this and.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not malicious that this has happened, but

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, let people know if you change your mind,

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<v Speaker 1>because someone was really sad about it, and it made

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<v Speaker 1>me really sad that like that could happen as a

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<v Speaker 1>byproduct of this podcast. So I just wanted to bring

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<v Speaker 1>that to everyone's tention. And I don't want to end

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<v Speaker 1>in a low No. We want you to keep meeting up,

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<v Speaker 1>but just make sure you go anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>That is it from us.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't joined the Facebook group, it's Life on

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<v Speaker 1>Cut podcast. If you want to send us some dms

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<v Speaker 1>for our Ask Guncut episode, or if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>send us an accidentally unfiltered story, then please send it

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<v Speaker 1>through to Life on Cut Podcasts, on Instagram or on

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they said that, or any other random story,

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<v Speaker 1>send us your fucking crazy story.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh guys, we do want to be adding some new

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<v Speaker 3>little segments in like for us send me a little

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<v Speaker 3>revamp come twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you guys have any little ideas or something

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<v Speaker 2>funny that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened to you, feel free to swing them our way,

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<v Speaker 3>because we want to keep this evolving. We want to

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<v Speaker 3>keep it to things that are relevant to you and

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<v Speaker 3>things that are actually happening to you, because that's what

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<v Speaker 3>makes everyone else feel better abound their life.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the drill, tell your mom, tell you to,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell your dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes this to tell your house, and tell just everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and share the love because we love love