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Speaker 1: Well there he was as frontman of Matchbox twenty. But

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Speaker 1: Rob Thomas is about to embark on a solo tour

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Speaker 1: and he joins us. Now, Hello, roll.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's so nice to talk to you from across

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Speaker 3: the miles.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I just think of how long I've

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Speaker 2: known you for as far as like, you know, just

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Speaker 2: in a professional sense. It was when I first met you,

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Speaker 2: Matchbox twenty had just come out with Long Day, and

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Speaker 2: everyone was just so excited about the song, and at

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Speaker 2: the time it was just such a great thing. And

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Speaker 2: then I look at us. We're still here, so that's

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Speaker 2: got to be a good thing.

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Speaker 4: When you said me first man, and I said, oh,

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Speaker 4: it must be at least twenty years, But then you

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Speaker 4: reminded me it's been.

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Speaker 3: It was almost thirty years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty years.

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Speaker 1: You're about to tour here, but you're doing a solo

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Speaker 1: tour and new solo music. But you were here last

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Speaker 1: year with Matchbox twenty. How different is it to tour

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Speaker 1: without them?

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Speaker 3: How does it?

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Speaker 1: How different does it feel.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, the only real difference.

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Speaker 4: I mean, those guys are such mates, Like they're my

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Speaker 4: best friends in the world, and we get closer every

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Speaker 4: year somehow, I think because we get older and little

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Speaker 4: things don't matter as much, so you don't fight about

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Speaker 4: stupid things and you kind of appreciate the relationship that

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Speaker 4: you have. And so the only difference is I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, like it's my solo world is a whole

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Speaker 4: nother family. I've been with the same solo band sit

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Speaker 4: for twenty years, so like it's I go back and

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Speaker 4: forth into these you know, these very safe spaces that

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Speaker 4: make me feel great and creative and fun, and I

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Speaker 4: enjoy it, and it's like family members back and forth

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Speaker 4: Matchbox twenty, I think the only difference is.

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Speaker 3: They know all the secrets about me.

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Speaker 4: Like my solo band, I got to get ten years

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Speaker 4: of pretending to be cool before I met them, But

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Speaker 4: Matchbox twenty knows they know the very very beginning.

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Speaker 1: You're like one of those guys who has two families.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a stuff up and get the birthdays

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Speaker 1: wrong and you're lying to one about the other.

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Speaker 4: I have been on the road before and like sent

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Speaker 4: a message to a Matchbox twenty group thread about like

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Speaker 4: how we how much we killed it tonight, and then

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Speaker 4: Paul will right back and he's like, yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: Wrong, one wrong. No, it's not like they don't know

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Speaker 3: that would be awkward.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I was looking at just at home. Is

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Speaker 2: it kind of like when Mick Jagger used to womanize

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Speaker 2: all the time and Jerry Hall said, look, just do

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Speaker 2: it discreetly, don't don't rub my face in it, And

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Speaker 2: then Mick could come home with a baby produced by

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Speaker 2: a Brazilian supermodel.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's exactly like that. I remember that's time,

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Speaker 3: that time that Paul came home with the Brazilian.

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Speaker 1: Wrong thread. Tell us about the new album. What's inspired

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Speaker 1: the songs?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think at this point everything is like

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Speaker 4: a tapestry right over the last thirty years. So if

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Speaker 4: I put out a record, it's not so much anymore

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Speaker 4: of like, oh this is my record about this. It's

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Speaker 4: more just like, this is the best eleven or twelve song.

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Speaker 4: I finally put together eleven or twelve songs and I

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Speaker 4: think should be heard because I all the time. So

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Speaker 4: I've written three records since I've put out a record,

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Speaker 4: and these are the ones that I that I think

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Speaker 2: It's just great to see you back because I've been

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Speaker 2: longing for rock to come back. There was a sweet

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Speaker 2: or ninety six, when you know, as I said before,

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Speaker 2: feel that we've been missing it for some time. So

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Speaker 2: I like that you'll.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna lie Jonesy like, I'm not sure how

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Speaker 4: much rock I feel like, you know, And when we

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Speaker 4: started out, we were a young rock like alternative band,

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Speaker 4: playing like college stations and making these kind of angsty,

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Speaker 4: angry rock records. And you know, thirty years later, we're

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Speaker 4: not as angry as we used to be, and and

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, like it's not it's not healthy

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Speaker 4: if we were, and so I think, you know, now

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Speaker 4: it's you know, we try to write really good songs.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of those moments where I see, like

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Speaker 4: of the first record, really kind of lean in and

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Speaker 4: be like, oh, I like this song.

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Speaker 3: I like this song because it has that a little

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Speaker 3: bit of that grit.

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Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I love rock music, but it

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Speaker 4: doesn't it won't serve me well and it'll be disingenuous

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Speaker 4: if I tried to make sure that I rocked really

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Speaker 4: hard every time I wrote a song, because that's not

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Speaker 4: where I'm at all the time.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Ken aid you as well. I was listening to Kiss,

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Speaker 2: I watched Kiss, and I performed Christine sixteen and I went, guys,

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Speaker 2: I think you gotta drop that song from your repertoire.

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Speaker 4: Well what have you guys been doing, because you guys

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Speaker 4: look like you haven't aged one day at all.

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Speaker 1: We have Lino filters in front.

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Speaker 2: Of You've got Simon Cal's botox.

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Speaker 3: We smell a for Meldehi. Robert, there's a painting somewhere

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Speaker 3: in your.

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Speaker 2: Robert's always great to catch up to you. Here's to

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Speaker 2: the next twenty eight years. For tickets and tour information,

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Speaker 2: head to ticket tech dot com dot au The All

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Speaker 2: Night Days Tour It's happening, Rob Thomas, thank you for

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Speaker 2: joining us.

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Speaker 3: The main thing is I just.

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Speaker 4: Want to say you have to check out the idea

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Speaker 4: you that of anything that I do, live music has

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Speaker 4: always been the end goal for it.

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Speaker 3: You make records so you can play them live.

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Speaker 4: I've Matchbox twenty and my solo band we become the

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Speaker 4: best live bands.

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Speaker 3: There are out there.

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Speaker 4: So I want everybody to come with their joy intact

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Speaker 4: because that's what it's about.

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Speaker 3: Like every show is about us sharing a.

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Speaker 4: Moment with every night that we have it because it's

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Speaker 4: our night too and we want to enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: And so I just want everybody to come ready for

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Speaker 3: joy and to have a good time.

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Speaker 2: We'll see that and be careful of you WhatsApp groups.

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Speaker 2: Don't cross the streams

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, Well, thank you, thank