WEBVTT - Beau Ryan - THE AMAZING RACE AUSTRALIA - TV Presenter 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:03.600 TV Reload, the podcast last. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:03.960 Week that live. 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:06.400 And welcome back guys to TV Reload. As you may know, 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.960 my name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.280 to get all the inside goss on the popular TV 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.240 shows you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.160 our TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.959 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.760 shows get made. So each episode I've been finding guests 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.759 that want to dive just that little bit deeper into 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.080 their shows they're currently making, so that you can hear 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.840 all the exclusive stories and gain access to the biggest 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.080 names in Australian television. I want to thank you for 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:35.239 downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've found me. 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.680 I love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.800 a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.400 Today's episode, I'm joined by Bo Ryan, the host of 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.960 Amazing Race Australia Celebrity Edition, who is here to brief 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.840 you on the most epic season of the show Australia 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.720 has ever seen. From culture shock, mere budgets and the 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.680 pressure of a NonStop race Australian celebrity races and their 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.440 race partners will get tested in ways we've never seen before. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.240 Each episode, the celebrities, which include Grant, Denya George from 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.040 Survivor Ben Gillies from Silverchair, amongst many others, meet at 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.760 the starting line by today's guest Bo Ryan, who will 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.199 be sure to throw some twists and turns their way 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.960 as they race across the globe. Bo Ryan is an 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:21.920 Australian television presenter, actor, singer and former professional rugby league footballer. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.000 He played for the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks and the Wests 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.959 Tigers in the National Rugby League, but then went on 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.920 to become a TV personality with his comedic work on 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.760 The Footy Show, which I'm sorry was very iconic. We 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.200 do mention his best friend, Bruno boishe a couple of times, 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.120 and I thought i'd quickly addressed that at this point 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.600 because he's a mutual friend of ours. Bruno is a 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.960 bloody legend and you should probably go and google him anyway. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.120 I will find out if the celebrities are better at 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.200 the Amazing race than the usual players and if they 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.040 were more demanding. We will discuss how hard it is 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.120 to step back from hosting a show like this to 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.640 be a contestant and if that's going to be a massive, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.640 eager hit for people like Grant Dania and Darren McMullen. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.040 We will also chat Gladiators and how excited he is 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.079 to be hosting that new series which is a reboot, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.800 and why he is now making TV shows for families. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.520 Plus we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.440 scenes of the Amazing Race Australia Celebrity Edition, which launches Wednesday, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.760 the fourth of October at seven thirty on Network ten 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.560 and you will be able to catch up if you 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.560 fall a little bit behind on ten Play anyway, guys, 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.920 let's bring Bo into the podcast. He is such a 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.600 legend and I hope you guys enjoy this chat. Beny boys, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.359 how are you, buddy, You're well. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.560 I'm good. I'm really excited mate. It's a really it's 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.960 a superseeds. Obviously, we've got the celebrities who are another 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.760 level as you know. Yeah, but places we go to 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.480 made are incredible, a hostile, they're hot, they take their 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.799 prisoners and perfect for celebrities. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.959 I want to know though, with these celebrities, do you 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.560 reckon that they take it a little bit more seriously 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.640 than your usual non celebrity contestants. I mean, what's the 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.320 difference between the type of people. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.919 No, because they're all if any, I would have thought 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.880 the other way around, because the people are regular people 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.920 who have been competing over the last five years, are 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.280 competing for a massive prize money of quarter of a 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.320 million dollars or cars added, it can change your life. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.880 So I actually thought, in all honesty, the celebrities would 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.200 it'd be harder to get them going, do you know 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.519 what I mean? But they're all competing for charity, and 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.200 pretty much from the first app, probably the second app, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.400 I realized how much it meant to that because their 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.320 charity has mean everything to them. And I've competed in 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.320 shows are representing a charity and you do dig deep, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.920 and I thought I was astonished by how how hard 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.240 they went and what they put themselves through to reward 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:36.800 their charity. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.600 The weird thing about this series was I knew so 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.640 many famous people that had said to me over the 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.120 last ten years that they really wanted to do the 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.200 Amazing Race. I don't know why this particular show is 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.560 one that celebs had been wanting to do. But I 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.320 thought about you and the type of person. We are 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.800 very generous as a friend. I'm imagining that you've got 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.120 a lot of celebs hitting you up on your Instagram 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.440 asking to put in a good word for them. Am 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.200 I going down the right path here? Does this happen 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:02.080 to you every year? 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.680 One hundred percent? And just in terms of casting, it 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.640 is the most popular show in Australia. We have like 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.720 thirty thousand teams apply. I'm talking fifty sixty thousand people 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.960 apply and celebrities and you'll see on this season we've 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.800 got some great names. We had a few people pull 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.760 out late because of clashes in their availability. But in 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.680 terms of people like Ben Gillies, for example from Silverchair 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.839 has been asked to do every show forever and doesn't 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.560 even flinch. Beck Judd is another one has been asked 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.760 every year. They keep coming back, you know, to suit her, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.280 more money, whatever. And these are people that are fans 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.200 of The Shadow. These are people that love the show. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.800 They want to experience, whether it's travel because we've been 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.719 you know, inside for three years and they want to 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.280 get out, or they want to experience something with their 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.000 last one or best friend, or mom or brother. So 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.600 it's actually not that hard to cast, which is great 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.320 because then we can get some wonderful names. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.080 I remember Stephen Tate emailed me once about it and 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.320 I was like, oh, wow, that would be good to 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.240 be back on television again. How exciting. And then the 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.359 people that they suggest that I go with, like it 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.960 was like someone i'd done Big Brother with or my partner, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.359 and I was like, I really value that friend, and 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:08.400 I don't want to get a divorce. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.120 So I just said, no, you're a hundred percent right, 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.560 do not do it with your partner, my wife and 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.200 I would last I reckon two minutes. I'm talking about marriage. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.240 I'm not talking on the show. Yeah, it's intense, man, Like, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.240 I'm like, you know what it's like reality TV. I'm 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.440 talking fourteen sixteen hour days every day for a month 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.599 or or longer sometimes, and cameras are in your face 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.920 and it's a lie. We drop on you in the 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.640 middle of a country or a city where you don't 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.440 know the language, right, you don't know the currency, you've 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.760 got no bearings, you've got no technology, and you've got 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:38.440 to come and find me. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.000 That's something I could do easily. My friend that is 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.960 that I remember you doing one of the footy show things. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.880 You can see how I'm into sport with the way 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.679 that I've just said it that way. But I remember 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.479 I was on a radio show in central Queensland and 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.719 my one job was to go and interview and you 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.800 were the easiest person to find because you and my 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:57.919 friend have this fan base that was like you were 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.599 a pied piper. We just saw this big tale of 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.720 crowd moving and that was where you find bo Ryan. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.600 I don't know what it is I feel like. I mean, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.560 obviously we're in Queensland. It's a rugby league city and state. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.520 You're a god. You're a god there. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.080 But it's great up there. Footy show days were crazy, mate. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.240 I'll tell you one thing about We used to do 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.360 four or five outside broadcasts a year and they're a 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.720 big thing to put together. We'd go to Newcastle, woman Gold, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.280 but our one's in Queensland. I'm talking North Queensland, Brisbane. 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.600 One time we're in North Queensland and we had eight 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.960 thousand people there out of one of the entertainment centers. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:29.919 I was standing out the front and it was like 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.960 a concert. So we went and had a rehearsal in 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.240 the day, not a rehearsal, but you know, we got 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.000 our bearings. But we went down there and it was 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.840 people lining up, and I went and saw one of 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.480 the people in the crowd and started talking to them, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.560 and a lady that worked on the ticket thing at 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:46.240 the front said the footy show sold out quicker than 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.280 Elton John. And that's when it hit me where I 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.159 was like, okay, okay, maybe this is a little bit 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.280 bigger than I think it is. And of course Queensland 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.840 don't really get you know, we don't really We're not 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.000 there every week, and Sydney probably take it for granted. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.240 We've got so many different sports and opportunities down here. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.400 But go on to Queensland, mate, I am. I love it. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.600 And plus my wife's a Queensland so you know, holds 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.280 a special place in my heart and my daughter was conceived. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.680 There the other there you go. I mean, you're a 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.720 full service showman, which means that you're getting a Elton 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.160 John performance somewhere along the way anyway you do a 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.480 good rocket man or you know, candle in the wind 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.600 or something. Yeah, yeah, right, No, I just was thinking 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.440 Network ten is not going to pay for the divorce. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.040 So that's the reason why I was like, definitely not 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:29.480 doing it. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.480 Yeah, no, you're smart, very very smart play but yeah 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.000 it's popular and it's a test exactly right what you said. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.280 It's a test. It'll test you because what happens in 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.960 your little world, whether you're in your car, driving somewhere 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.000 in your kitchen or at home in your bedroom doesn't matter. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.360 And you've got your little private moments and whether it's 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.840 an argument or affection or whatever it is, that's your 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.360 safe space. But having Australia see it sometimes with no context, 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.440 it's it's exposing. And I admire the people that come 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.360 on the show because, like I said, I could do it, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:01.080 couldn't do it. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.320 I wanted to ask about the application process because you 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.840 guys had started advertising for a non celebrity version. What 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.720 was the change in mind? Do you get to know 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:11.280 that kind of stuff? I mean, I don't know how 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.080 much skin you've got in a game making those decisions. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.360 But there was a lot of people applying already before 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:18.840 it became the celebrity version. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.720 Yeah. Well, like I said earlier, when we got like 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.200 I'm talking tens of thousands of people ready to go 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.480 every year, and obviously you want to fit a character 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.560 or a fit a type of person or type of 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.560 personality we need on the show. You can't have all 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.160 the same people. And a lot of people want to 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:35.440 just come on because they want to win the show. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.080 We're making a TV show. Essentially, it is a race, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.760 but it's a TV show. It's for entertainment. But I remember, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.400 I think it was last year when we come back 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.760 from the Europe and South American series and we'd shot 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.040 over the four years, three seasons, and you know what 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.959 TV is like. After about three or four season, you 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.160 got to mix it up. Now, whether we were going 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.200 to bring it all stars in or a celebrity, the 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.160 timing was now, and we sat and we spoke and 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.920 there were some feelers put out and then the thing 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.200 with the amazing race. Yeah, it's a big production. We've 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.120 got I'm talking one hundred and fifty people on the road, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.240 but it's a six month prep because we need people 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.200 to go over and wrecky the spots. We're going to 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.800 the countries. I use the franchise people and rules so 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.000 we can get the layer of the land and this 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.960 will everyone happened quick. So usually I've got a few months, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.040 a few months. Some might sleep when I know we're going. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.400 I'm lucky that you know ten pretty much just tell 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:25.680 me what to do and where to be all the time. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.400 So I'm literally at their service whenever. And I remember 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.040 I got a call off Tay and he's like Stephen 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.040 Tate and he said, mate, we are going in three weeks, right, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.160 So then I had that conversation with my wife and 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.200 it was it was good. I mean, it wasn't a 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.160 long season in terms of how long we're away, running 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.560 away a month in total, but it happened quick, mate, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:44.400 It happened quick. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.840 Well, knowing you your wife would be like, go on, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.520 go and have fun. But how was Bruno? Was Bruno 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:50.079 okay with you? 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.360 The thing about Bruno, The funny thing is Bruno and 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.400 I share each other's locations, right, We're the only thing 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.560 I don't share my I've got my daughter's location on 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:58.960 my phone so I can find out where she is. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.280 But Bruno, I'll share each others locations. Now. At the time, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.520 I was actually meant to go to France. Oh wow, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.720 I'm going to go to France to see Kyle and 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.080 Bruno over there at Coles honeymoon of course, of course, 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:10.920 and that's when I got called up. And I remember 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.760 Bruno text you one day and said, how's Cambodia. I 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.640 stopped checking my Instagram because I didn't want to see 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:21.280 him and Kyle drinking. Of course, I mean Cambodia in 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.000 a rice field at four hundred. Well, I said to Bruno, 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.439 talked to you in two weeks and it was the 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.439 hardest thing he ever went through, and he's been through 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:29.120 some hard stuff. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.240 They're the real tears. As I said, your wife's like, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:32.640 go on, have fun, we'll see you. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.480 So send the money back. We'll be good. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.440 Have you have people ever been cast to be on 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.000 the show and then you've found out that they've got 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.160 like misdemeanors or travel restrictions or something that has happened 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.959 to them that has meant that you've got to recast 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:46.839 them at the last minute. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.839 Short answers, Yes, I was no names, no names. I'm 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.200 not talking misdemeanors. But I remember our first season, so 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.880 we did a quarantine in two thousand, I think eighteen nineteen, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.400 where before quarantine was a thing, right, but we you 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.120 do the quarantine to psychological We get the teams in 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.959 a bubble and you know a bit of warfare, bit 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.200 of mine games. I remember we were in South Korea 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.560 and I walked into the room. I'm talking there's fifty 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.600 camera set up and the in noormally was hitting its 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.040 first season and I didn't make the contestants till just 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.439 before I meet him first time at the pit stop, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.240 which is I always liked to stay away from because 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.240 you want first reaction of coause there was a there 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.319 was mayhem the day before it started, might have been 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.680 two or three days before it started, actually, because the 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.120 teams had walked in and when they met each other, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.959 one of the one of the mums. There was two 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.400 mums in there. Two mums who were a team met 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.199 one of the other teams and they were related. Oh 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.880 so that was her auntie or something like that. So 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.640 we flew one of the teams home and brought in 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.600 an emergency team because that was political, right, that was 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.880 seen as an advantage. And I still think about that 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.160 team all the time because they were sent back back 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:48.959 to Australia. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.280 Which how do you choose, Like who's choosing that? Like 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.920 did you paper rocks as this family or did you 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:55.960 work out who had a better personality for the show. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:56.880 What happened to that? 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.199 Yeah, obviously I wanted them to wrestle. It was again 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.319 fitting what we needed in the show and who could 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.559 come in. All about availability, I'm talking, we've got twenty 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.560 four hours. Man, you've got to get someone from here 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.400 to Korea? Do you know what I mean? The normality 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.160 was like availabilities because people have told they're not on 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.120 the show. We had people on planes. They've got to 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.360 get off work this back then we're doing six to 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.320 eight weeks away. So it's a process. They made it 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:20.680 happen and we shot a season. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.679 It's crazy with each contestant because you were saying, there's 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.839 like one hundred and fifty people going on tour with 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.920 this show. So does each contestant get like one cameraman 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.719 and one producer? And what stops the what stops these 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.960 two other people possibly from helping them? You know, with 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.120 the process. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.439 We have a rotation policy o WO policy. So if 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.520 me and you're a team, for example, I haven't really 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.560 touched on this is a very good question. We'll have 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.160 a camera, a cameraman, camera woman, on audio person and 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.560 a sort of a producer. So you think, you know, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.839 we we got got twelve teams this year at four 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.400 name we started, so that you've obviously got twenty four people. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.160 We rotate them every two days, sometimes three days, so 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.280 they don't get any that even though they're not allowed 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.120 to speak to them, there's no relationship formed or bias. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.840 Then we have zone cameras, and that where it became 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.800 an issue. Not an issue, but aheadache last year or 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.959 the year before, I can't think because I don't really 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.400 know what dat is. But we were in Morocco and 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.000 we did a world record. We had twenty teams. So 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.480 we had twenty teams, which is forty people, which forty 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:21.840 people means forty cameramen. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:22.800 That's crazy. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.440 I think forty camera We had the zone people, we 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.719 had the audio people, we had producers. That production I'm 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.760 talking hundreds and hundreds on the road and then shuffling 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:37.199 them was literally erasing itself moving people around. So the 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.920 production is I can't speak highly enough of them, but 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.240 it is a big process. Mate. Like I've worked in 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.360 many shows, this show is like and so many movie parts. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.440 Then you throw in COVID the other year. It's just 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.160 it's incredible. We should it. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.800 I'm a bit like hannibal lector or serial killer. So like, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.160 you know, I don't know why I'm referring to myself 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:56.800 as that, but I feel like if I had the 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.560 same producers, the same cameraman, I feel like I'd win 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.840 them over, like that's just a part of my personality. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.959 They'd be totaled to talk to me, and I would 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.160 because I remember even with big brother had a minder 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.120 and I managed to get actual inside information out of 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.880 him by just like being myself, like you know, just 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.360 manipulating him. And I feel like that's amazing that you 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.560 said that they rotate everyone to stop that kind of 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.200 thing from happening, because I mean, I wouldn't be the 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.760 only one with that kind of superpower, you know. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:27.040 Of course, and everyone's trying it, and but sometimes it's 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.360 a random work, you know what I mean. One word 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.920 can change, can change a result, you know, you accidentally 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.040 say Portugal or something like that, and little things like 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.880 that can give teams advantages. Like it's massive. I mean, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.400 they're all they're all the cameramen and the audio and producers, 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.240 especially the ones that have been doing it for a while, 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.920 which is good, we run a tight ship. And also 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:49.400 the new ones that come in a lot of the time, 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.880 I sort of it's not that they're scared, but they 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.840 are very to a tee, they very professional. It's like 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.880 they're a bit nervous. They don't want to step out. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.320 And we have a lot of new producers and crew. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.240 That's when it runs the smoothest. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.000 And celebrities are full on like you know you and 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.120 I know this. We've been around them for a long time. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.160 They know how to manipulate people, they know how to 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.640 get what they want. I mean, if I was a 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.960 producer and Grant Daniel started to, you know, look like 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.120 he needed my help, I think I'd struggle to not 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.560 help him. It's Grant Daniel, that's right. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.960 You're gonna understand a lot of these guys have worked 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.720 with producers and camera group people in previous seasons of 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.840 different shows, or worked with them in studio shows, or 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.960 they know them from around around town. So the rotation 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.520 is a key to the show's success. But yeah, mate, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.760 celebrities and other level Mate, they're entitled. They're entitled. You know, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.520 everyone's entitled. Every everyone who's shot one series of something 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.920 thinks thinks they're entitled to something. And the thing is 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.600 that's surprising about these this season, and I'll be honest 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.120 with you, the ones I thought would be entitled were 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:51.120 actually the most level. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.880 Wow, I feel like I want the names, but I'll 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:57.520 move on to Darren McMullan anyway you'll find it. You know, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.480 I thought it was funny that Darren was there because, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.280 like in the first episode, I think you give him 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.240 a bit of a job about him wanting your job. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:04.960 But I also thought it was kind of cool that 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.000 you've got Grant Dan here and Darren mcmullum there in 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.120 case you get sick. They can stand in as a 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:09.840 TV host. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.440 You know that's right. But obviously with Darren would probably 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.120 need a translate, and we Grant Daniel would probably named 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.640 four or five telephone books for hunder stand on. It 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.480 made that very clear TV works. And I know you 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:25.960 all want my job and it ain't happening. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.960 But you know what's so funny about The Amazing Race 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.280 is that all over the world it's so popular that 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.600 people have tried to clone the game in some way. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.200 We saw one I think it was called rush or 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.360 I can't remember it now, but you know, nobody else 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.880 that's tried to mix up this formula has ever made 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.440 it work. It's never been as good as The Amazing Race. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.080 Why is that? I don't understand. Like Russi and a 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.040 few others were almost the same sort of show, but 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.520 it just didn't land. What happens a few things you're 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:53.000 not in it. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.920 People always love who's first. Right. If you do something first, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.200 especially in our industry, you're because you're rolling the dice 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.640 on something right and you're stepping out of your comfort zone. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.960 The Amazing Race's been around for over twenty years. When 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.359 Phil Cogan and that got it, I've met cameraman. So 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.680 you gotta understand. When we're shooting the series, not only 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.520 do we have the production company there and the networks 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.080