WEBVTT - #76 Mrs April Wicks !! 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.240 Ash. It's not often that we can say that the 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.280 guest who's going to jump on this podcast is one 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:10.039 that you've had sex with. Oh look at Rosy. Your 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.720 cheeks are going you have flustered. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:18.079 Oh gosh, I do not wish to talk about it. Look, 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.439 I'm happy she's here. Let's be honest. We are a 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:21.080 little worried. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.000 We are, of course talking about April, who is your 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:25.800 beloved wife. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:26.960 I thought we were talking about your um. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:34.480 Oh c hey, hey, sorry, sorry, sorry, Let's not go there. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.320 April is going to dish all the dirt on her 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.600 husband God the co host of this podcast, Two Doting Dads. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.519 His name is Ash Wicks. Ash, you worried about what 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.199 the listeners are going to find out today? 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.400 Not at all. No, A little bit worried, tiny bit. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.239 But we'll get through. I'm sure we'll get through. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:54.800 She has been one of the most requested guests that 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.080 we've ever had, and it's taken a very long time, 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:03.560 lots of convincing that this is a good idea. All right, 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:17.320 as she is excited, let's get into it. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:21.920 Stop touching my knee. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.160 Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mum. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:28.039 I am Mattie J. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:35.760 I'm ash and April she is everyone much anticipated. I 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:38.360 think we've teased it the most. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.840 But this is a podcast all about parenting. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.839 It's the good, the bad, and the relatable. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.920 And April, I dare say you have a lot of 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:48.720 advice to give. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:50.280 I don't know. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.720 I feel like you have wisdom of bursting out of 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:54.720 your seams. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.280 More so than Ashton. Probably that's about right. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.720 Can I ask we were meant to record this last 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:04.480 week and you had a tooth or teeth removed? Did 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.440 that actually happen? I wasn't sure if that was made up. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:13.160 They're all there, did you I. 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.720 Had some dental work, yeah, and so I decided to 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.080 postpone see the. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.440 Mouth mechanic and waste all that money down there, Okay. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.440 Because I was like, maybe maybe this will never happen. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.679 Yeah. Yeah, she played hard to get for a little while. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.360 I was I was going to cancel this morning. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.520 To be honest, I was expecting when I came in 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.440 the front door, I didn't think you'd be upstairs. I 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.000 thought you'd be like running errands. But it's great to. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.200 Have you heard. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:38.600 Have you? 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.280 Finally, I do want to say we don't have many listeners. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.400 Not many. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.040 I'm just saying this to make but they were all 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:51.640 very excited on Facebook, on Instagram, the Facebook man, on 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:56.240 the Facebook. Everybody was very keen to hear your voice. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.400 That's reassuring, I hope. 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.520 One of them. The most common questions we had was 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:07.000 the story of how you and ash Met. Can you 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.760 recall the day, yeah, at. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.160 The time, exact moment. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.200 How did you two come together? 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:20.359 So our stories may vary, but my story goes, well, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.680 we did know each other at the age of like 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.600 fourteen through mutual friends from high school. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.840 April went out with one of my friends in high school. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.560 That's not really how we met, Like, no, no, we 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:31.320 just knew each other. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.560 And then was what was your opinion of ash or 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.200 was he just kind of someone you knew a little bit? 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.080 Are we like, Oh, he's quite nice, he's fun. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.280 I didn't really know him that well. I just knew 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.840 who is, what his name was, and who he was 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.640 and whatnot. There was no reputation, no reputation. No, I 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:55.240 think he was fourteen, so he was just another boy, just. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:56.480 Another set of legs. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:01.200 And so how long was it before you guys introduced romantically? 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.920 So I think you moved down in like you moved 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.800 away and then you moved back down to Sydney when 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.680 you're twenty. And then we ran into each other at 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:19.279 the pub Mona pub, No, I want to say. It 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.200 was a Saturday and I was doing my usual rounds 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.280 as you do when you're twenty, doing a round of 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:31.240 the pub, and I ran into you and you stopped 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.400 me in my tracks and you go like we're just 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:42.960 sweachit chat, basic chit chat. How are you going? And 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.279 then I was like, okay, I'll keep going, Like you know, 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.960 I just wanted to keep going. Lap got to finish 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.960 my lap like you know, single. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.760 Girl paps Mayonni's Manies exactly. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.720 And you're like, oh, just one dance because it was 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.400 right next to the dance well, and I was like, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.240 oh look look I'm just on a mission and I 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.240 just want to keep going. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.160 Can I say you have dance experience? 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.320 Yes, you're a good dance How did you know? 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.000 I remember seeing a video of you we were on 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.040 the cruise and I was like, wow, April can really move. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:14.640 I was one of the dancers. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:19.520 It's a bold moves, A bold guy. Like does dance 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.560 rank highly? Then you like I would always want to 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.799 be with someone who's a dancer. Totally, totally. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:27.200 I did love a dance or but yeah, so I 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.840 said on just I'll just dom around and then you're 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.720 like one dance and literally I was like, okay, one dance. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.080 You know, he's pretty persuasive. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.600 Guy is going to be a long episode. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.840 And we just had a dance and I think we 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.360 literally spent the rest of the night together. 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:48.560 Was he a good dancer? 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:55.960 I can remember his style of dance. You have to 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:57.920 remind me what it's called. But I remember you tried 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.080 to show off with you like, was it like a 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.360 a crib walk or something. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.320 I regret this. It was a shuffle a. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.640 Shuffle and I don't know. I thought it was all 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:19.240 right and yeah, and then you did like we just 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.479 hung out the rest of the night and you're making 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.479 me laugh and then yeah, next thing you know, we're 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:25.880 going on some dates. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.680 I have seen some photos of the two of you 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.200 when you were a little bit younger from Ash's Facebook 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:37.000 you the two of you very attractive couple. You still are. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.200 Thanks. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.200 I'm getting lost of words to you two are very spicy. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:43.160 What do you mean? 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:44.200 Thank you? 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:45.640 You're very attractive? 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.440 Oh, thank you, you would have been like the couple. No, 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:52.160 definitely not. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.719 I laugh about it now. But the thing I think 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.880 that I was attracted to you were like your whole 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.720 two tattoos that you at the time, and. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.440 I was like, that's hot, and they're like the worst 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.400 tattoos I have, yeah, under my arm and under that 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.040 they're like one of them was done by a tattoo 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.920 artist that I was pissed and it was like, so 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.360 it's so bad, and the other one was just like 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.000 a dumb seventeen year old tatoo. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:20.800 Did you show with the tattoos that night? 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:21.960 Yeah, I just walked around these. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.000 By the way, he was skinnier than me as well. 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:25.680 It was tiny. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:26.680 I was so small. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.240 The photos of you when you were younger, you're a 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.440 bit of a trim young lad. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.040 Oh now what am I fat? Dad? 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.080 Very clean cut? 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.080 You're allowed ten kilos for every kid you have. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.240 You didn't have the mustache. No, did that version of 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.320 events match what happened from you? 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.960 Yes? Yeah, that was pretty bang on. I think I 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.640 tried really hard to go home with her. She said, no, 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:51.600 kick me off the bus. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.920 Yeah, we did catch a bus home, got a bus home. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:59.640 Well, young I was poor, and then I spent weeks 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.840 weeks courting, courting weeks to the point where it was 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.520 a joke between her and her friends. So I was 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.000 a joke really. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.000 Because you were you were like playing hard to get. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.360 Or he was very keen. And I remember joking like 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:20.120 because he sent like, not millions, but he said plenty 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.320 of messages throughout the day. And at that time I 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.120 had a job where my phone was locked away in 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.400 a locker and you'd send like a couple of messages 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.200 like just like, how's your day, but then another one 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:29.640 would come. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.800 Through one You're going back to back to back. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:33.760 Back to back to back. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.400 In those days. Yeah, I'd never do that now. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.480 And I joked to one of my friends at the 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.480 time and I was like, oh my god, this guy's 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.720 so keen. Imagine if I end up marrying him. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.199 There you go, guys persistence. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.959 Do you remember after you guys met at the pub, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:58.240 like what your first date was? Yes, where did you go? 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.520 So you'd been out like that whole day, so I 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.240 think you'd been drinking as well, so you were like 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.880 it does not sound like that. You were like, Oh, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.720 we should go out for dinner, but I think you 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.520 need to can you pick me up? 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.200 WHOA. I was out during the day, but I had 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.880 tried to see April at other occasions but she was 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.200 playing hard to get. And then the one occasion I 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.560 was in Bondai actually, and the one occasion where she 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.720 was like, oh I'm free tonight, I was. I caught 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.600 up with a girlfriend of mine that had moved down 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.120 as well, and we just hadn't seen each other yet. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.040 She moved to bond Diam so we caught up for 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.319 a drink and lunch. I only had like two or 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.240 three beers, but I got a bus and a train there, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.120 you know, thinking Okay, I'll probably just spend the evening 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.240 in Bondai and see what that's about. Sure, and then 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.400 it was like oh shit, So I pretty much stopped 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.800 whatever I was doing and got on a bus and 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.000 then got on a train. But the thing is, I 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.360 was like to April, you're gonna have to drive. So 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:06.200 I got dropped at her like pretty much at her place, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:11.520 and then we drove to where I was living, which 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.760 was on the floor of Pete's house, who was in 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:19.160 the cafe straight So just to clear that up, carry on. 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.800 I'm pretty sure as well you did send in a message. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.000 I think that's when you told me. You're like, oh, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.040 I can't afford dinner. I can't remember how I found 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.800 out that you couldn't pay for dinner much. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:31.480 Ye. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure you like told me straight up, 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.480 You're like, I haven't got money for dinner, but I'd 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:38.520 love to take you out. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.240 So I was like, context, context, context is everything, guys. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.880 I had. I had packed up my car from living 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.720 in my parents' house, moved here, was working three jobs 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.960 that paid cash, and it was like the worst time 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.960 because I was in Bondou with all my money that 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.400 I had and had pretty much spent it on lunch 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.400 and everything, thinking Okay, I'm just going to go home. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.120 I get paid the next couple of days from one 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.640 of these jobs, but then I didn't want to miss 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:05.319 the opportunity. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.120 So honesty, honesty is the best, suppose. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.400 Yeah, but I don't think. I don't recall saying it. 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.640 Well, I just I can't remember how I found out 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.240 that I had to pay because I did have to pay? 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.320 Was that to that? 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.640 No, let's get to that. Okay, you didn't have to pay. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.640 He didn't make you pay, because no, he did. 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.600 He gave me a discount, didn't he because you worked? Well, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.040 we end up going for dinner. So yeah, we drove. 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.840 We drove somewhere. We didn't really have plans and I 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.240 was driving. I think we went to go to a 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.400 sushi place, but we couldn't park or something, and then 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.760 we end up going to You were like, oh, I 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:41.400 work it. 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.240 I work at this jizza. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.080 Pizza place, so we'll go there. And so we went there. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:51.120 I had dinner and whatnot, and obviously all his coworkers 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:56.280 were like behind my back, which I know now, yeah, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.960 she's down. And then the bill came and I went 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.360 not to pay, and I could. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.320 Afford to pay, but into my name. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.120 I think the important thing to remember is that you 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.240 can start with the bar really low and then from 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.480 then on that's what I did. Everything's a plus. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.280 Yeah and you did? You did? You used to spoil 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.920 me rotten o in what way? 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:20.640 Oh? 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.880 I remember like one of the first Valentine's Days. I 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.760 think you brought me an iPad mini, buy me jewelry. Yeah, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:32.840 like like literally spent probably credit card debt. 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.760 Make up for that one dinner I couldn't pay for. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.040 But it was the most important dinner obviously, but I 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.840 meant at the time, I recall, I was like, okay, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.920 well the people I was with in bond, but I 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.040 got to go, and it was like I got to go. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.080 I have to go for a particular reason. I could 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:51.400 have easily just been like no, not yeah. Yeah, So 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.240 that's how that's how the first date went. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.640 Do you remember thinking on that date this feels different 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.120 to other dates that I've been on. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:12:59.280 Definitely. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.880 Yeah. She had to pay for it, like I felt 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.080 slightly lighter in the wallet. It wasn't expensive, all. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.840 Right, No, And like you know, you're talking when we 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.400 were twenty, there was not a high expectation of like 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:19.480 long whiny and it was about but yeah, yeah, I 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:20.480 enjoyed his company. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:27.160 Your dog is very into the story. I don't want 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.320 to ask questions that are too personal. Did you have 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.640 a kiss after dinner? Was there a kiss that night? Oh? 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:35.880 I have no idea. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.959 I can't remember. I think so well, I don't. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.600 Know where, Like I wouldn't have been at the restaurant. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.520 I remember when are we because we had to stop 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.600 at my place before we went, and I was living 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.520 with Pete and there's three brothers in the house. Oh 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.560 walked in, had to get some fresh clothes, and Pete 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.040 was like, where are you going. I was like, oh, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.600 I'm going on a date with April Gates and he 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.760 was like, bullshit, you lying bullshit. And then I was 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.280 like and then he's like walked out open the front doors, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:07.319 like Gavin. She had a big crush on April. So 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.200 I stole a stolen something Dolar. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:10.920 I don't think I was ever his, but. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.079 He still thinks. He still thinks he's got to change. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.720 And then how long was it then until you guys 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:19.680 got engaged? 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:21.880 Seven years? 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.200 No, that's when we got married. We got engaged, that's 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:30.640 what I mean. We got engaged. I think it was 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.920 five years and then we had a two year engagement. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.440 Because we're quite young, we'll engaged at like twenty four. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.960 Four twenty five. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.320 It was yeah, that's young, fifteen. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.240 Yeah, we it was like we had been together for 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.600 like five years. We took a little trip to the 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.160 States with some friends Josh and Chian. Shout out to them, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.880 they're probably listening. Probably not, they probably are. We did 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.840 like a big big stin over there and I got 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.280 like the ring made and everything here, and I remember 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.920 I was like, I'm definitely going to do it. Josh 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.840 and ceanne knew what was happening, and I said, I 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.120 definitely want to do it over there. I had to 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.240 hide the ring the whole time, but I didn't trust 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.360 the baggage handlers. No, no, no. I was just going 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.760 to say sorry guys, but I. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.520 Was like, I was like, no, you can't trust No, 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:18.800 You've got to have it on you all time. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.240 Yeah. So what I did was I didn't put it 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.120 in my pocket. I put it and tucked into my 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.200 underpants on the side here and so it just like 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:30.480 just held there for the whole flight from from Brisbane 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:35.480 to San Francisco. And I remember like it was the 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.680 next day and we're like going to do this, go 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.880 up to this big lookout and April was like, why 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.400 are you acting so weird? I was like, oh, I 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.160 just feel a bit sick from the pipy jet lag. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.000 I was just fucking nervous, and I was I was 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.400 still like holding this ring, so she didn't know. And 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.040 then I think, at one point, we'll let this look 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.560 out somewhere and you put your arm around me right 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.240 in the aar it like like just around my back 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.720 and right and I was like, oh, fuck you we 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.000 goes of know what's this? Didn't say anything? 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.280 Did you have any idea? April? 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.760 No, no clue at all. I like, no, no clue 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:06.080 at all. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.440 And then yeah, we just went up to this place 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.440 in San Francisco and the cab driver cried. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.360 He got the best footage out of everyone. He got 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:15.960 his phone out and he got like and. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.600 Then he called his wife and was like, you're not 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:22.000 going to believe. Where was it at San A place 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:22.920 called Twin Peaks. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.280 Yeah. I remember the cab driver the whole way up 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.960 was joking about Twin Peaks. Don't you remember that? Yeah, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.760 and like Twin Peaks. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:37.720 Yeah, and that's yeah, I've been there. They try the wings. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.680 I remember we were on the way out there and 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.240 he was like, do you want me to hang around 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.800 because it's hard to get back, and. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.640 I was like no, no, I don't need a crowd. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.960 And then it was like got up there and those 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.360 people around. April first, as a boyfriend would do, I 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.200 would like pretend to like when you really like, oh 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:04.119 you know, and she thought I was doing that, but 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.880 I was trying to get to turn around. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:25.800 And then grabbed me by the arms and I was like, what. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:23.440 He's packing Yeah, and then yeah, and then the cab 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.679 driver was like on the phone with his wife obviously 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:27.600 Josh and Shan. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.680 Who knew what was going on. Obviously she said yes, 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.320 but it was funny in the cabin the way back. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.399 The guy was like, I had no idea. You were 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.880 pretty cool to me. I was like, I was sweating, 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.840 like fuck, Like why did I I could have just 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.720 done it like old mate did on the jet STARFF 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.960 the other day. Did you see that? Oh? Yeah, I 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.879 don't want to shame them because people have got their 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.840 own things. Yeah, this couple were flying to Bali and 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.080 he obviously couldn't wait any longer the pressure he proposed 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.800 to her on the jet Star just before it too economy. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.919 Hey those drinks are expensive on the flight. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.600 Yeah, so that's yeah, twenty fifteen. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.600 I always I'm always like, what would it be like 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:17.199 in the moment for yourself when your partner's dropping your knee? 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.360 Do you remember like do you straight away go oh 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.240 my god, he's about to propose. Did you like did 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.560 you realize or is it like a bit is you 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.200 have a moment of confusion of like is this actually happening? 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.720 It's definitely surreal at first, and then I feel like 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.240 it's still surreal until you watch footage after you like 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:35.480 that actually happened. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.840 I sucked on mind? Can I just cry? 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:38.520 You're on TV. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.080 I didn't know it was We're in Fiji. I just 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.000 dropped in it and started crying, and Laura thought that 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.480 I was going to say that I had cancer. It 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:48.600 was like, something's wrong. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:53.200 I was like, I can just imagine you, like. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.200 I mean, it sounds stupid when you think back, You're like, 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.439 it's no big deal, but it is. 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:00.159 It's like it was. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.520 Actually at twenty four, I. 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:03.360 Was fucking ship. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.200 No one really we really knew had been engaged. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:12.560 Yeah, one of the first were married. Yeah, who were with? 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.040 But that was really it? 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:14.720 Yeah? 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.840 What was it do you think about Ash that made 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.480 you think, Yeah, this is a guy I want to 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:19.919 spend the rest of my life with. 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.080 Don't hold backpack, don't hold look. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.719 To be honest, I don't think those like we were 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:31.280 still so young. I don't think those like I always thought, yeah, 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:32.960 this is it, this is it. I don't know, but 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.400 I just feel like it wasn't like yeah, that's definitely why, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.880 just the whole It's just always I just I loved 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:43.400 his company. The vibe I always I always joke he's 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.960 my best friend, and he rolls his eyes and always goes, are. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.080 You my best am? I your best friend? Yeah? 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.119 I think you want to have that friendship as a foundation. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:57.960 Is always like we can be best friends forever. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.000