WEBVTT - Beyond The Grave ⚰️

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a familiar stranger in your life, someone

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<v Speaker 1>you see regularly on the train or at the gym

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<v Speaker 1>or the supermarket. You don't know anything about them. Their

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<v Speaker 1>life is but a mystery to you. They might look

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<v Speaker 1>like a normal person, but they may have a dungeon

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<v Speaker 1>in their house, or have a connection to Hollywood, or

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<v Speaker 1>they may have even been famous in a past life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I come in. Hi, I'm at Simone and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finding the most interesting people who may present as

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<v Speaker 1>very regular people. I'm ready to squeeze out another confession. Head.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, my name's Bill. I'm from the Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I live on a hobby phone with my wife. We

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<v Speaker 2>have two children six grandchildren under the age of five.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the ocean, the sun, the sand, and I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy animals more than people. However, I am conceding feeling

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<v Speaker 2>something from you, Art Simone, but I'm ready to confess.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello. Bill, how are you going very well?

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you for having me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thanks for coming on the podcast here today. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You're nice and clean cut, you're well lit, you look

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what you're doing. You're on the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you been there for your whole life or.

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<v Speaker 2>Our whole life. Yeah, I came up when I was

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<v Speaker 2>probably two or three years of age.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sidetrack though, what's your favorite Gold Coast theme park?

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<v Speaker 2>Go? Oh, it has to be wet mild.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a very uncommon answer. Maybe that's a clue.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to write that down. Wet things. Okay, wet

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<v Speaker 1>things could be important. I personally am a movie world person,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that's just because, you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I have star quality and star power, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I just belong in movie world. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>like the sun? Are you okay with that?

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<v Speaker 2>I love the surf, sull and sand.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I don't only like surf, sun as I

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<v Speaker 1>actually only like none of those things. But maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have lots in common. Who knows. Who knows. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do is ask you three questions, and from

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<v Speaker 1>the answers to those three questions, I have to work

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<v Speaker 1>out what it is that you're concealing from me here today.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready? Bill?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Bill? Okay. First question, what is a motto

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<v Speaker 1>you live by?

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<v Speaker 2>Sit down, shut up, or fuck off?

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<v Speaker 1>Sit down, shut up or fuck off. Okay, now, is

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<v Speaker 1>that something you've had to say a lot in your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Quite a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>And where did you first come across this? Rather to

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<v Speaker 1>the point motto always placed.

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<v Speaker 2>In a position of having to say it, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just been an ongoing thing since.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, Look, I wish I could use that.

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<v Speaker 1>I work in a lot of nightclubs with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of easy people, and I tell you what, it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>lovely to bark that at some Okay. Question number two

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<v Speaker 1>in alternate universe, who would you be and what would

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<v Speaker 1>your profession be?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know what, I'd still be me, but I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a cleaner because I'm always cleaning up other people's shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleaner. Okay, cleaner. Well, you're coming across very authoritative. Authoritative,

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<v Speaker 1>authoritative now I'm having on those days. I may look

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<v Speaker 1>like I have a big brain because my hair is

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<v Speaker 1>so big, but it's actually filled with plastic bags and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in the room with me, you'd be able

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<v Speaker 1>to hear them anyway. Question number three, our final question

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<v Speaker 1>is what is your take on the meaning of life?

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<v Speaker 1>To avoid death?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>The meaning of life is? Not to die at all? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Avoid death? Wow? Okay, They've really set me up with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of information. Should really pull apart here today, Bill. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm getting that you have to tell a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people what to do, and you're cleaning up things,

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<v Speaker 1>so you'd be a good cleaner cleaning up. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like messy situations, but could be any type of messy situation,

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<v Speaker 1>not actual mess okay, messy lives, messy people, messy wives, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and avoiding death. How else could you avoid death? Not

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<v Speaker 1>to live in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a bit?

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<v Speaker 1>But you're here in front of me, so that's interesting. Okay, Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>are you like an ambo? Like that's all that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>to mind? Bill, I'm just going to go for that. Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you an ambo?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Duh.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me. My name's Bill Edgar and I am the

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<v Speaker 2>coffin confessor. Sit down, shut up or fuck I'm hired

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<v Speaker 2>by the decease before they die to tell those that

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<v Speaker 2>were loved how much they were loved, and those that

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<v Speaker 2>my clients love to hate to fuck off.

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<v Speaker 1>What what the fuck is that? Bill? You're a coffin confessor.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that like I know what it is, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very confused. Is he into coffins? Does he sell them?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he feel them? Who is he confessing to? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're here with Bil who is not an ambo. He

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<v Speaker 1>is but a coffin confessor. And if you're like me,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably have no idea what the hell he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So please, Bill, can you give me a top line

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<v Speaker 1>of what a coffin confessor is? What that entails?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, basically, I'm engaged by the decease to turn up

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<v Speaker 2>at the funeral and to let the secrets out of

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<v Speaker 2>the closet. Every person on the planet has a skeleton

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<v Speaker 2>in the closet, and I reveal them at the funeral

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<v Speaker 2>and be it good, bad, funny or said it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter then whether you like me or loath me, you

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<v Speaker 2>won't forget me.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gate crashed funerals to deliver news on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of the deceased.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Okay, before we go into that, is this something

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<v Speaker 1>that has that you've seen happen in other places and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I could do that? Or did you make

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<v Speaker 1>this up yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So I'm the only coffin confessor on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no one else like me, and it created in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and eighteen. As it started as a joke, I

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<v Speaker 2>told a dying man that I crash his funeral for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he took me up on the offer, and from

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<v Speaker 2>there it went from one funeral to another to another

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<v Speaker 2>and then another doors open where I'd be going to

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<v Speaker 2>viewings and pinpricking the body to make sure he's dead,

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<v Speaker 2>or placing items in coffins, or gain your people's homes

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<v Speaker 2>and sweeping them of items they don't want their family

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<v Speaker 2>and friends to find after they've done.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what, though, it's quite a useful service

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<v Speaker 1>because now that you've mentioned sweeping a house of items,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in their lives, maybe not me,

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<v Speaker 1>may have certain objects in their house that they might

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<v Speaker 1>not want I don't know their mother seeing, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>any other relatives seeing. So I am exactly that makes

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<v Speaker 1>complete sense of our bill. Top draw on my bedside?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you just burn that?

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<v Speaker 2>Please? Can you?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see that? Please?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now have you always been a good secret keeper?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe so. I've been a private investigator for about

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen years now, so I do keep secrets and I

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<v Speaker 2>hold them dearly because you know, it's my job. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a trust that people rely on me.

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier that we've got nothing in common, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've just really cemented that even more because the world

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<v Speaker 1>that I come from, there is no secrets kept whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>You try to get a room of drag queens together

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone has got I know absolutely everything about everyone

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<v Speaker 1>else by the end of the night. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would personally be a terrible Actually, i'd be good

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<v Speaker 1>at the confessing maybe if I got maybe if they

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<v Speaker 1>got given the gossip the morning of the funeral, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I could rock up and be like, so, I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you bet you didn't know this. Oh that's right

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<v Speaker 1>to say. What's it like delivering secrets? You know? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a sassy side?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't have a sassy side. I have a look,

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<v Speaker 2>my integrity is everything. I go in and I sit

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<v Speaker 2>amongst mourners, family and friends, and I stand up at

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<v Speaker 2>a specific time that my client and I have basically

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<v Speaker 2>worked out, and I'll interrupt the service by standing up

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, excuse me, my name's Billaid guy, I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>coffin professor city and shut up. Well fuck off, this

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<v Speaker 2>is your loved one laying in the coffin and they've

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<v Speaker 2>left something unset. If you want to hear it, stay

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<v Speaker 2>and listen. If you don't chuck off.

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<v Speaker 1>Do people look at you when you arrive at the

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<v Speaker 1>funeral and like they're start out and being like, who

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck is this guy sitting in here? Like as

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<v Speaker 1>there have been a scenario where you've us to leave

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<v Speaker 1>before you can even deliver the news that you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, some people get a bit upset, But as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I get the crowd on my side, the

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<v Speaker 2>crowd usually hushould send down and ask them to leave

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<v Speaker 2>because they want to hear. They want to hear what

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<v Speaker 2>they loved. One left une said, I'm just a messenger.

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<v Speaker 1>You must be a good guy because they're dead. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't shut up to the funeral and do it,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to know because you're the only one that

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<v Speaker 1>knows the secret. So wow, you you must be a

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<v Speaker 1>really top notch bloke. If you're you're like, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna go do my job because I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of us wake up in the morning and if

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have if our boss is dead, what's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get it, but we all die, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know more people dead than alive. Now, so I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>where they're going, and there's no way I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>rip the dead off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that you mentioned that that could be a good

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<v Speaker 1>horror movie. Anyway, so you said it started, you know

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<v Speaker 1>as AA. How did people then start to catch on

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<v Speaker 1>about this service and find out about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I I basically read aloud exactly what my client

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<v Speaker 2>once said. Because it's their letter, they sign it. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a contractual agreement and a video of me and

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<v Speaker 2>my client. But once I finished reading, I placed the

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<v Speaker 2>letter back in the envelope, place it on the coffin,

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<v Speaker 2>and I leave. So I don't know if the funeral

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<v Speaker 2>continues or not. I just walk out. Now, this first

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<v Speaker 2>particular crash, I left, and the young girl came out

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, excuse me, Bill, and my dad would

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<v Speaker 2>be proud, thank you so much for doing that. The

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<v Speaker 2>second lady that came out asked me and insisted that

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<v Speaker 2>I see her auntie, who was in palliative care. And

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<v Speaker 2>I decided to go and see her, and she asked

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<v Speaker 2>me to crash her funeral. And from that funeral, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a reporter there and the reporter made a headline story,

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<v Speaker 2>just a little one, and then I was on Good

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Britain. And after thirty minutes of been on Good

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Britain, I had fourteen and a half thousand requests

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<v Speaker 2>from the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean you get to travel a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>get to some funerals or do you Sometimes it's not

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<v Speaker 1>about showing up in Perine, might be just delivering some news,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that is by the mail or by you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly a lot of times the overseas stuff is either

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<v Speaker 2>via zoom or a face to face you know, teleconference

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. But to mean I do have

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<v Speaker 2>to travel overseas, I've got a lot going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the entertainment industry. So there there's quite a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you guess, now, guess how many different people's information

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<v Speaker 1>you've got like on the backburner, ready to deliver it

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<v Speaker 1>when the time is right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, one hundred and nearly a thousand and nothing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing too is as a private investigator,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know the internet world very well. I'm an

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<v Speaker 2>old school I write everything down as well, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust the Internet. I don't trust you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>back doors of internet. So you know, I make sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's all written down and it's hidden safely and securely.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the trust that my clients have in me.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the police. Then, if someone's confessed to a crime,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, police giving me a rough time to try

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<v Speaker 1>and get some more information out. And how does the

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<v Speaker 1>situation like that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if someone confesses a crime to me, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to report it. You're obliged to report it. However,

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<v Speaker 2>if they write it down, put it in a post

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<v Speaker 2>envelope and post it to me, or I post it

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<v Speaker 2>in myself and I don't open it, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the crime, so I don't have to report it until

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<v Speaker 2>the day of the feral.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, Well there's a way around it all, isn't there?

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<v Speaker 1>There always is? Yes, how do you know if some

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<v Speaker 1>of them have carcked it? Like do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>like fully? Like because a bitteres aren't even a thing anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Like how do you how do you keep track to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh shit, I've missed the fear and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what's happening. Like how do you I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the ones that are knocking on death's door you

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<v Speaker 1>can keep an eye out for how do you watch

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<v Speaker 1>out those the other ones?

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<v Speaker 2>Every person that's engaged my services has a confident Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>that knows that I'm engaged. They don't know what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Or think something to do with the will or something

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know well exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they know I'm going to do so, they know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the coffin confessor. They just don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And it could, like I say, it be good, bad,

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<v Speaker 2>funny or sad.

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<v Speaker 1>So and when you sit down have a meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>your client and they tell you what they want you

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<v Speaker 1>to do, there wouldn't be much in the world that

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<v Speaker 1>shocks you. But is there still some things you're like, Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>did you get caught by surprise? Sometimes even now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so. I think I've seen everything

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<v Speaker 2>and I've heard everything. I mean, obviously there might be

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<v Speaker 2>an item at a house that I wouldn't have suspected.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, there was a lady recently who was

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<v Speaker 2>quite an elderly lady, and she named her toy Clive

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<v Speaker 2>after a husband had passed away some years ago. And

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<v Speaker 2>Clive was no small fella. That'll be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, when I'm going you get rid of Clive,

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<v Speaker 1>please send him out to pasture, all right, bloody? How well,

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<v Speaker 1>good honor though, good honor that, But that is quite

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<v Speaker 1>true because I feel, you know, I feel like some

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<v Speaker 1>of we have packs with our best years to go.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything happens, just go and fix this please. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice that it's just a service, But how do

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<v Speaker 1>you prove to someone that you are trustworthy? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>have trust issues? And how do I know that if

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<v Speaker 1>I call you up and I give you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of gossip or a little secret, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of news to deliver, that I can trust you.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it comes down to morals, integrity, and ethics, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I have. I mean, it's proof now since

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and eighteen, I have not let a secret out.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't do it until the funeral. Sometimes I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what the secret is until I met the

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<v Speaker 2>funeral and I have in the envelope myself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be fun. You must look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>those days you're like, oh, I get to open envelope,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever one, two, three, four today or what's

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<v Speaker 1>it going to be exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>And especially like sometimes someone will confess to a crime, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, this is heaven. This is like maybe drag queens,

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<v Speaker 1>are you franchised maybe drag Quay wouldn't really good at this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of trust issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I felt real Has there any been

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<v Speaker 1>moments where you felt in danger or threatened by other

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<v Speaker 1>people because of what you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Only one particular funeral where I revealed that the guy

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<v Speaker 2>was gay and he was a bikey, and the other

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<v Speaker 2>boys said that I was going to end up in

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<v Speaker 2>the grave with him. Mission they didn't like what they heard.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, if those people really knew and loved that man,

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<v Speaker 2>they already knew they really did. So again, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm saying anything new to some people at the

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<v Speaker 2>funeral service. You know some of them already know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a big reveal.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, I guess what you kind of delivered to is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, infamously and like you've heard of messages being

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<v Speaker 1>delivered when the will is being announced or red out

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. So it's not an entirely new concept, but

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<v Speaker 1>you seem to be modernizing it a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>and making a bit more personal and more in your

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<v Speaker 1>face performative and fun. So, of course there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of darkness around death, but what are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>fun things you've been able to do, or the funny

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<v Speaker 1>requests or the ones that you've really enjoyed doing, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what, you know, even the bad ones I enjoyed doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The more I'll get it, through it out of it. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty cool just to be the only person that's

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<v Speaker 2>invited to a funeral by the actual decease. I'm probably

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<v Speaker 2>the only person on the planet that's inbted by anybody

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<v Speaker 2>that's died. So but I've got to say the one

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<v Speaker 2>that sticks in my memory is it is probably the funniest.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know the circumstances around why it was

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<v Speaker 2>so funny, but the gentleman, he'd been petrified that he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to be in the casket, it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be somebody else, because many years ago at his

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother's funeral, they brought the wrong casket and wrong body.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually buried the wrong body and everything, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was shocked that, Yeah, I worried that was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he asked me to walk up to the

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<v Speaker 2>coffin and check that it was him in the casket

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<v Speaker 2>midway through the service. Midway midway, so I had to

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<v Speaker 2>work out what coffin he was in, and how to

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<v Speaker 2>open it, because not all coffins are the same. They're

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult to open some of them that have locks

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<v Speaker 2>and latches and secret little compartments. So I had to

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<v Speaker 2>work all that out. However, he also asked that I

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<v Speaker 2>play on my phone, Pop goes the Weasel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't tell me why, but he said, when you

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and when you check it's me, look at

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<v Speaker 2>my wife, give her the thumbs up, and that's all

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do. Well, when I did it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at his wife, she was in hysterics, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a thing between them too. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>something very secretive and very beautiful between the both of

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<v Speaker 2>them because she went from morning to hysterical and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a beautiful thought process for her to think

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<v Speaker 2>of him. You know, it's good. I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have secondhand anxiety from you explaining that story. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you push through that? Because what I how do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I've seen enough dead bodies to not

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<v Speaker 2>worry about seeing your dead body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's even just in front of a room

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<v Speaker 1>of people going oh yeah, better put Pop goes the

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<v Speaker 1>police salon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, fuck them. I don't have any concern for those

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<v Speaker 2>left beyond. It's not about them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you and I guess too. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, you don't know any of those people. You'rerobably

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<v Speaker 1>never going to see them ever again the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. It'd be different if it was a rumor

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<v Speaker 1>of people that you didn't know. Jeez, do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>have to sometimes kind of question your own morals? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're working on behalf of your client, but

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to bring your own reason into some

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<v Speaker 1>situations to go perhaps my client isn't thinking properly, or

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't right, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And this is where my background comes in. I

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<v Speaker 2>investigate every claim that i'm told. So if Joe Blogg

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<v Speaker 2>said to me, I'm looking, I've been screwing the neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>next door and she's not letting me see the kid, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'll investigate that claim. I'll do it

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<v Speaker 2>as discreetly and as professionally as I can, and then

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<v Speaker 2>even if I find it's true, I'll say, listen, how

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<v Speaker 2>about we just say you were screwing a neighbor because

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<v Speaker 2>you live in a complex and it could be man

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<v Speaker 2>or woman, that's not out her when you're gone, because

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<v Speaker 2>she's got three kids, you know, she has her husband,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know how vengeful and revenge you on her.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's just let her know secretly that you're desires

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<v Speaker 2>in your thoughts, but let the crowd know that it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been anybody. So I'll work around a few

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<v Speaker 2>areas that I'm not going to destroy a family over it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's a really good point, because some older

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<v Speaker 1>people do get very vengeful and always really want to

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<v Speaker 1>have the last say.

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<v Speaker 2>Although there are a lot of vaults in the families too,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And these vultures circle as soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're on your deathbed, they're circling trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>all your shit, you know. And you don't know the

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 2>vultures are there until they're there. And sometimes they could

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<v Speaker 2>be standing right beside you throughout life, just waiting, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So I couldn't give a fuck about them. I love

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<v Speaker 2>standing up at funerals and telling them to fuck off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I will ask you, is there a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>funeral you haven't gone to yet that you want to experience?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe a witch burning, or maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, a mummification could be fun. Is there any

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like you've been to all sorts of funerals.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something that you're waiting to see one day?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Too? Oh, going to go into a tomb? I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to. Yeah, something like that would be something I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to see. You know, I've jumped in another man's grave,

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<v Speaker 2>I've lay in the grave, I've been to the cremation,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've sort of lay on the bed of the

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<v Speaker 2>crematorium as well. I've done all those things to experience

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like. I even had coffins on my

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<v Speaker 2>own farm that I was People were coming in staying

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<v Speaker 2>because I had coffin camping and it worked out really

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<v Speaker 2>well for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's quite a camp though. I like that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like And it's really pleasant to meet someone

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<v Speaker 1>like you because death is very scary for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. And the service you offer and from just

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<v Speaker 1>meeting you, I think you demystify and make death a

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<v Speaker 1>little less scary. How do you price something like this, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you go? How much is a secret worth?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a lot of people and depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>secret it could be a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean it's between two and ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a year. They don't need the money where they're going,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never get a complaint.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, And I mean people are going to wonder.

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<v Speaker 1>People are going to wonder to get paid in advance

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<v Speaker 1>or does it go into a magical thing that releases

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain date.

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<v Speaker 2>In time, like yeah, it goes into a trust account,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not released until the day they're funeral and

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<v Speaker 2>that I've done the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's your motivation to do the job, then, isn't there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>forget about the dead people hunting you down. You don't

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:17.119
<v Speaker 1>get paid Gill, It's done so so I think the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to close this out would be to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a confession that I'd like you to keep. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you bit of background. So I haven't told anyone this,

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<v Speaker 1>and my housemate will be really upset when I do

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<v Speaker 1>reveal it. But luckily I don't think he listens to

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast because he's not a good friend. But my

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 1>housemate is obsessed with house plants. Obsessed obsessed with house plants.

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<v Speaker 1>You won every day too, if possible, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>very accepting, But there's one type of house plant I hate,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think they deserve to be in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're those mangy, gross, succulent things. Their kid is

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<v Speaker 1>give me something with the flail, Give me something with

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<v Speaker 1>the vine. Why do I need this meat bloody thing

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<v Speaker 1>with some rocks on the bottom that's just sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>a jar. Anyway, The reveal is that I've been throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the succulents over the back fence so.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you could please deliver that, if I have

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<v Speaker 1>an untimely JESK, that would be wonderful, not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Problem at all. I'll let him know you spit his

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<v Speaker 2>succulents out.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bill isn't an ambo. He is a Goffin confessor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope he enjoys my succulent secret. You've been

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<v Speaker 1>listening to an iHeart Australia production Concealed with artsimone. Listen

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<v Speaker 1>to more of what you love an iHeart, and I

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<v Speaker 1>must confess I look amazing today. So what are you

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for? I know you're dying to check me out

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<v Speaker 1>on the socials.

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<v Speaker 2>Momma, Yes,