Speaker 1: Hey, Legends, Welcome back to the Amazon Cox Show, Big Show.
Speaker 1: This week, we've got line ball calls all throughout the AFL,
Speaker 1: three different instances.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about all of them.
Speaker 1: We've got streakers, streakers out of Adelaide Oval and also
Speaker 1: our boy Traut Cloak gets into it. Yes, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about all that much more on this episode starting now.
Speaker 1: Welcome everyone. We have a massive, massive episode ahead of us,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get straight into it.
Speaker 2: Welcome Brighton. Let's start this thing off.
Speaker 3: Get a mace. We gotta start with some positive energy. Boy,
Speaker 3: oh boy, we're not gonna hop on your game. That
Speaker 3: was Thursday, that was ages ago. Let's get into the
Speaker 3: clanger because we can bring some joy with this.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I want to jump into one that happened on the
Speaker 3: Friday the Adelaide Geelong game. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: you saw this, but there was an absolute goose that
Speaker 3: jumped the fence. It was a pitch invader ran out
Speaker 3: with his phone as every stupid kid does nowadays.
Speaker 4: One that cloud.
Speaker 3: He was on the TikTok or the or the Facebook
Speaker 3: or the MySpace or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: You can find the show on Yeah, I don't know if.
Speaker 3: We have a MySpace page anymore, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: We had Bibo and we can. If you jump on
Speaker 3: our MySpace, we'll chuck you in our top ten friends.
Speaker 3: But anyway, back to my clagger. This absolute goose that
Speaker 3: went running out. Now, normally you see the pitch invaders,
Speaker 3: they run around the fringes, around the outside.
Speaker 4: They have a bit of fun.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they're like, you know, climbing activists or someone with
Speaker 3: a message, or this idiot I will call him. I
Speaker 3: just ran straight in to get the hard ball. He
Speaker 3: was like right in the stop, it's just running in.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if his head was switched on,
Speaker 3: because he was just you know, he ran into the
Speaker 3: into the cauldron, and he ran straight.
Speaker 4: Into a couple of players.
Speaker 3: Now the players were probably the only guys that he
Speaker 3: had to really worry about it, because the security guards
Speaker 3: were lacking. Now, a little bit of a clanger on
Speaker 3: this poor bloke that's a security guard. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he's got a bit of osti Eartist Cubis whatever
Speaker 3: he had coming on, But he was waddling like a duck.
Speaker 3: The poor fellah. You'd hate to be the closest one
Speaker 3: when he jumps the fence and you're like, ah, that's my.
Speaker 2: My section, that's my area area Chase. He's probably nineteen
Speaker 2: years old, the hell of a lot more, right, Chicken.
Speaker 3: He's out there and poor bloke was running after him
Speaker 3: because he almost had him. I think it was Matt
Speaker 3: Crouch grabbed him. And there's a bit of controversy around
Speaker 3: what the player the players can't be grabbing.
Speaker 2: We're going to go into this into detail on the podcast.
Speaker 4: I mean you can't.
Speaker 3: I would definitely say that I'm very much on the
Speaker 3: player's side, and I reckon it was unders what they
Speaker 3: did to this bloke. But you know, Matt Crouch grabbed
Speaker 3: him and waited for the security guard to come over,
Speaker 3: and he still let him go.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't want to.
Speaker 3: Watch that on the on the review the Security team
Speaker 3: review on the Monday Jeepers. But he's like waddling after
Speaker 3: him and he finally got him because Ben Keyes, you know,
Speaker 3: grabbed him and tripped him up. And we'll talk about
Speaker 3: that later. But that's my cla. I'm giving it a
Speaker 3: bit fifty to fifty. Definitely more the goose that jumped
Speaker 3: the fence in the first place, but.
Speaker 2: Maybe the athletic ability of the.
Speaker 4: I reckon it's a bit of yoga or something.
Speaker 2: A bit of stretching pregame might help him out.
Speaker 3: Just get a bit more limba, just like free up
Speaker 3: those hips do some somber classes hips. Because it was
Speaker 3: it was very waddly, it was very very Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well that's good to know. Good now you doubled up.
Speaker 1: You've actually got two people in your Cleaner of the
Speaker 1: week this week, so I appreciate that my player is
Speaker 1: going to be quite simple now over the week. There
Speaker 1: was a few things that happened before the games, right,
Speaker 1: There's a few coin tosses that happened.
Speaker 2: Marblade boys over there.
Speaker 1: They got a bit of a call up for the
Speaker 1: coin toss and a strageous he was real hyped about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he just lost it in the lights.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you lose it in the lights of the sun.
Speaker 1: But it was Marble Stadium. There was a roof on,
Speaker 1: so I don't think that excuse is probably valid. But
Speaker 1: he just toss the coin, just staring up as if
Speaker 1: the thing had left the building. And then I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, Mike, Pink is not performing there. She's not
Speaker 1: doing acrobatics, put your head back down to the ground.
Speaker 1: The damn, the damn corn's landed, and you need to
Speaker 1: call it what it is. But then their their counterparts
Speaker 1: came over and he took a real serious next game
Speaker 1: and made sure they made up for that.
Speaker 2: And they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not getting made fun up for it. So that's
Speaker 1: gonna be my clinger of the week. Coin toss probably
Speaker 1: the easiest part of the game. Uh, don't try and
Speaker 1: screw that up just but I will say Clark I
Speaker 1: got a good life out of it. So there was
Speaker 1: a bit of hilarity and now big fans of them
Speaker 1: and what they do, providing a bit of happiness for
Speaker 1: everyone out there.
Speaker 4: To say Clark, I just in a bit of a happy.
Speaker 2: He's like our Ross line of last year. I think, yeah, true.
Speaker 4: Maybe they got into the same stuff.
Speaker 1: We're gonna jump into that same killed the game at
Speaker 1: the end of this episode. But we'll go straight into
Speaker 1: the Geelong game. Let's start off there.
Speaker 3: We said last week went out on a on a
Speaker 3: on a limb limit. We said that Adelaide, we're going
Speaker 3: to win this game. Now they've let us down. But
Speaker 3: g didn't Geelong look good? They looked. I don't know,
Speaker 3: strong out there. It's hard when you know Tomahawk just
Speaker 3: turns it on. He kicks his four goals or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know that they're up and about. Jess is roaming
Speaker 3: around like a shark, just kicking one or two from
Speaker 3: outside fifty. But one thing that didn't help the situation
Speaker 3: because Adelaide got themselves right into the game. But Darcy
Speaker 3: Foggerty the fog, the fog, Oh boy, I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to watch this one back. But he's running into an
Speaker 3: open goal square and just boots it right into the post.
Speaker 3: They kind of snuffed out any you know, chance of
Speaker 3: a comeback.
Speaker 4: And then as what normally has.
Speaker 1: Really Josh Bruce Stylin like in the goal square just
Speaker 1: just clanked it off the post and almost came back
Speaker 1: and hit him in the head.
Speaker 4: When they go in and they kick it at one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2: The stadium, Yeah, you're in the goal squades, little touch.
Speaker 3: So I reckon when you you can speak on this,
Speaker 3: I can, obviously, but when you've got a bit too
Speaker 3: much time to think, Yeah, that's why when it all
Speaker 3: starts to go wrong, the demons are crawling in. They're
Speaker 3: like then the expectation is you kick it. Oh god,
Speaker 3: I have to kick this. Everyone's watching me. That one
Speaker 3: where you were I don't remember it, but the one
Speaker 3: that you actually did kick, I think it was against Geelong.
Speaker 3: You had the bounce running into fifty and kicked it
Speaker 3: and did the arm spread out?
Speaker 2: Well did I just do that? I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I will say this though, whenever you're at
Speaker 1: the at the back round and you got the goal square,
Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity just to absolutely pelt the ball
Speaker 1: into their cheer squad. Yeah, with no ramifications whatsoever. These
Speaker 1: people have been absolutely going at your whole game long,
Speaker 1: and you've just got this line up five meters away
Speaker 1: from their head.
Speaker 2: You launched that shit straight into them.
Speaker 4: I think there's a famous one of Tony.
Speaker 3: Lockett really just tried to spirit through people, like explode them.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Tony, he did whatever he wanted, and you wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would have the balls to say otherwise.
Speaker 3: He threw a set of crutches at Eddie McGuire. No,
Speaker 3: not a lot of people are going to be throwing
Speaker 3: things at Eddie. He's got a lot of he's got
Speaker 3: a lot of balls. But what about Tom Stewart.
Speaker 2: This little he's a you know, a gun is what
Speaker 2: he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, you were saying before off here that he doesn't
Speaker 3: get the plaudits that he deserves, when it's I think
Speaker 3: he's there.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, like, I do think he gets
Speaker 1: a lot of credit, but I don't think we're really
Speaker 1: play realizing how good of a player he is. We
Speaker 1: talk about the Tom Hawkins, told about the Jesse Camerons
Speaker 1: from Geely and all that, but Tom Stewart him blitz
Speaker 1: those guys there, there's such a diverse kind of player.
Speaker 1: They're kind of the reason I think that they're getting
Speaker 1: over the line in all these games. And you know,
Speaker 1: we always look to the people that kick the five
Speaker 1: goals and stuff, but these people are playing in the
Speaker 1: back line are really holding them down to keep him
Speaker 1: in these games. So it's it's one of those things
Speaker 1: you don't give give a bit of credit to the defenders, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's in his one hundred and fiftieth game. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a big occasion for him. He stood up on
Speaker 1: the stage. He had a massive amount of intercepts, but
Speaker 1: was it fifteen intercepts? On the day eleven marks. I mean,
Speaker 1: he played out of his skin, let's be honest, and
Speaker 1: I think it's just it's great. I mean, defenders probably
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of the credit you know that
Speaker 1: they deserve. And Tom's one of the best in the league,
Speaker 1: been doing it for a long time. And to see
Speaker 1: him at one hundred and fifty games be able to
Speaker 1: perform on the big stage, it was pretty cool to see.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone was playing anywhere near him. He
Speaker 3: was just running around giving those intercept marks. Some of
Speaker 3: those ones are the real head scratches from I guess
Speaker 3: opposition coach, but just people sitting at home and you're
Speaker 3: like Stephen May has been doing it forever.
Speaker 4: Put a near him, he's just soaking it up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's good to say Tom Stewart out there
Speaker 3: just dominating. But he did one hundred and fifty games.
Speaker 3: Is it okay? Do you reckon it's stock standard? Do
Speaker 3: you get chaired off after one hundred and fifty games?
Speaker 3: What's the chair off protocol?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say yes because I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm reaching two hundred. Don't think that's in my future.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I can get two hundred and fifty and get
Speaker 1: chaired off. I did one hundred steal at three hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty, so I think I was a little bit
Speaker 1: outshone that, But yeah, I took the back seal.
Speaker 2: I was like, steal your date. But no, I think
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 1: Every fifty games as a player, you kind of realize
Speaker 1: how hard it is to get to the big kind
Speaker 1: of milestones of one hundred hundred and fifty, two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty, three hundred three point fifty for Tomahawk this week.
Speaker 1: So that's going to be a massive thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know who the hell's going to carry his ass.
Speaker 2: That's going to be a big that's gonna be a
Speaker 2: big chair out though. Who's getting the call up with
Speaker 2: two on the shoulders?
Speaker 1: But like that one, their rocks are like running, just
Speaker 1: how they might need to crutch after that. But no,
Speaker 1: I think it's there's always this controversy around, you know,
Speaker 1: what's enough credit to give to people whenever they have
Speaker 1: milestones like that. And I think obviously he would get
Speaker 1: you know, acknowledgment for the game and throughout the week
Speaker 1: and then probably in the pregame meeting and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Have his family and all out there. But I'm all
Speaker 1: for celebrating people have these kind of accomplishments because you
Speaker 1: kind of realize that any game, any kind of training
Speaker 1: session like it all can be taken away from you
Speaker 1: so quickly. So I don't understand why we don't just
Speaker 1: celebrate these things. Maybe there's like something more we need
Speaker 1: to do. For a chair off for a big like
Speaker 1: three hundreds of the four hundreds or something like that,
Speaker 1: and then we still have, you know, acknowledgments at fifty.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like we're gonna chair off neck after fifty.
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen. I mean maybe fifty, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's like maybe the chairs like the in between.
Speaker 1: Then you have like the absolute legends. You know, people
Speaker 1: are tomahawk that's what harriv and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's another level we need to go with it
Speaker 2: to be able to acknowledge them.
Speaker 4: Hook them to a harness or something and they.
Speaker 1: Shoot out of the maybe out do a full lap,
Speaker 1: full lap, and you have the family back there grand
Speaker 1: final style.
Speaker 4: Because that's the only reason I would say that you
Speaker 4: don't do it.
Speaker 3: You've got to reserve the chair for the ultimate you know, accolade. Maybe,
Speaker 3: like I think the chair should kick in at two
Speaker 3: hundred up because there's like not that many milestones beyond
Speaker 3: two hundred. I mean, pendles are going to four hundred.
Speaker 3: What do you do at four hundred.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's going to be some Obviously you'll
Speaker 1: have the banner probably specific for you.
Speaker 4: In four hundred.
Speaker 3: That's the You've got to have both teams line up
Speaker 3: bare minimum for the clap off.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's like a you know, you turn the lights
Speaker 1: off or some of that, and you play a video
Speaker 1: up on the screen or something on those lines of
Speaker 1: like just acknowledging their career.
Speaker 4: And then it always sucks if they lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always an awkward one, isn't it. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: a pregame thing. It's all a pregame thing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: some fireworks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fireworks going on.
Speaker 3: Let's jump back into this streaker chat because Ben Keyes
Speaker 3: it's been reported by Tom Brown.
Speaker 4: Now I thought he was off the scene, but he's back.
Speaker 2: He's back.
Speaker 4: He's back.
Speaker 2: Couldn't hold a man down.
Speaker 3: He's back on Twitter, where he limits the amount of
Speaker 3: interactions that people can have more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, smart I've deleted the apps.
Speaker 3: So I don't know whether it's true or not, but
Speaker 3: we take his word on he's professional journalist. And then
Speaker 3: Ben keyes charged or fined find ten thousand dollars for
Speaker 3: his interaction with the streak. And now he grabbed him
Speaker 3: and kind of did like a little Judo toss trip
Speaker 3: to you know, stop this guy, which you know, the.
Speaker 1: Keys is always in the media for fine, he's always
Speaker 1: in the media.
Speaker 2: Feel bad.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's actually making any money anymore.
Speaker 1: He just can find every week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, like, so the argument is like, don't touch just
Speaker 3: don't touch the fans even if they're out there. Fans safety,
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. You could argue in my books,
Speaker 3: player safety.
Speaker 1: Because the player hasn't safety even it's it's like someone
Speaker 1: else coming into our office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the if the security guard is not getting
Speaker 3: there in time to intervene, Yeah, you probably got a
Speaker 3: self defense, right. That would be me putting that out there.
Speaker 3: But I remember early days on this podcast which sparked
Speaker 3: a bit of a furor, was you said that you
Speaker 3: would basically kick the ass of any streaker jumped over
Speaker 3: the fence and came up to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to preface this is before I knew
Speaker 1: there was financial penalties to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Grant is so I want to be doing just to
Speaker 1: be able to prove a point in the podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: happy to let down and be able to say was wrong,
Speaker 1: just to not to pay ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, where do you stand on all this?
Speaker 3: As it'll split everyone because you've got fans v players.
Speaker 3: But apparently the fan you know, it looks like they've
Speaker 3: been They can get banned up to three years from
Speaker 3: the stadium, and a five thousand dollars five is wild.
Speaker 3: So if keys he's getting ten k is it all
Speaker 3: relative because he's on the AFL coin and you can
Speaker 3: you don't want to.
Speaker 4: Charge the people jumping over the fence.
Speaker 3: Well, the players are getting paid versus you know, the
Speaker 3: fine you should.
Speaker 1: Be saying it's relative to what you do for a living.
Speaker 1: I think it's like one of those things where yeah,
Speaker 1: but this man comes in and goes into the AFL
Speaker 1: world and decides to interrupt the AFL industry, he should
Speaker 1: be fine?
Speaker 2: Is not just as much, if not more?
Speaker 1: I like the I look at it as I'm like
Speaker 1: whenever you go into a game, Right, I've really done
Speaker 1: this in a while, But like, I mean, how much
Speaker 1: security is there really to go into a game?
Speaker 4: What like how many security around the outside of the game.
Speaker 1: I mean, like there like security guards that sit there
Speaker 1: and you know, pat you down everything else. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the pat down is the loosest packdown you'll ever see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like literally not even looking at you
Speaker 2: yet touch a chest piece. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think we've all been to a
Speaker 1: footy game. We realized that security going into the joint
Speaker 1: probably you know, it's it's pretty easy just to roll in.
Speaker 1: I'm sure sure a few people have fasks they've brought in,
Speaker 1: no doubt, But yeah, I just think it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where like player safety and welfare, it's like
Speaker 1: this guy's jumping around, rolling around doing all that stuff,
Speaker 1: Like you have no idea kind of what condition this
Speaker 1: person is that's running into the field. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a priority health and safety for the players. I
Speaker 1: guess we have to have health and safety for the
Speaker 1: person that's running onto the field, you know, but I
Speaker 1: think it's more on the security guards around him to say,
Speaker 1: you know, if you see someone running out there, you
Speaker 1: need to get to them before that, but you have
Speaker 1: five meters from essentially the boundary to the stands.
Speaker 3: That was the problem because he ran into the stoppage.
Speaker 3: The security guard stood on the outside because he's like,
Speaker 3: I can't really run into the stoppage because I'm also
Speaker 3: a hazard running in there. So yeah, it was I reckon.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a gap in security. Like there's definitely
Speaker 3: like what do you do in that circumstance. I subscribe
Speaker 3: to the w w A model, whereas if you jump
Speaker 3: that fence and you go into that ring fair game,
Speaker 3: you're in their arena. They can just kick the ship
Speaker 3: out of here.
Speaker 2: It's like the cage of death or what.
Speaker 3: You jump into the Let's jump over to the North
Speaker 3: Melbourne Frio game. North were in it, and they were
Speaker 3: in it early, but then Freo have done this two
Speaker 3: weeks in a row where they've just piled on the goals. Now,
Speaker 3: going into the season, everyone was questioning Frio's ability to score.
Speaker 3: They were, you know, defensive team in that defensive mold,
Speaker 3: but they've got so many good forwards at the moment
Speaker 3: and they just smashed on nine.
Speaker 4: Goals back to back to back to back to back.
Speaker 4: Bank and yeah in the air.
Speaker 1: To the right, and it's like last goals, it's like bang,
Speaker 1: make for you for fear for f.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the end, they got the job done. Luke Jackson.
Speaker 3: Now this is a conundrum.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Coaches always say, oh, it's a good problem to have
Speaker 3: when there's positive selection for spots, that's tight. But Luke
Speaker 3: Jackson two goals, twenty four disposals, twenty one hitouts, absolutely star.
Speaker 3: He was the catalyst for them getting back into it
Speaker 3: and going on their run with Brayshaw. But the problem
Speaker 3: is when Sean Darcy comes back, does he just push
Speaker 3: Jackson aside, take that lead rock spot back and Jackson
Speaker 3: has to find another position to fill around the ground
Speaker 3: and we know we can go up forward, we know
Speaker 3: he can pretty much play anywhere. Is that an advantage?
Speaker 3: What's the team thing to do in that situation? If
Speaker 3: the team's humming the stuff with something that's working well.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we all know that there's a there's
Speaker 1: a big cont tracks for both of them. So you
Speaker 1: kind of look at those players that are on big
Speaker 1: contracts and you say, it's a conundrum for you know,
Speaker 1: coaches say, oh, it's good to have competition, but I'd
Speaker 1: say it's good to have competition with them unless those
Speaker 1: two people are fighting for the same spot and they're
Speaker 1: on a decent chunk of your salary cap, right, because
Speaker 1: then you're going, okay, I'm probably getting pressure from the
Speaker 1: board to say we need to play, we need to
Speaker 1: play the payer, play the players that are getting paid
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 2: Jesus of a tongue twist say that to fast.
Speaker 1: But with this situation, like Shawn dars is one of
Speaker 1: the best ruckmens in the league, Luke Jackson gives a
Speaker 1: very different look.
Speaker 2: From what Seawan provides.
Speaker 1: But I think that they'll end up probably bringing Sean
Speaker 1: back in see Luke Ford test it out, and then
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, you know, they might go
Speaker 1: back to this where they're winning games with Luke Jackson
Speaker 1: in the rock. So you know, the thing it reminds
Speaker 1: me most of is the Berdie Grundy scenario with Maxicon
Speaker 1: last year. Right, So you have Max down comes back in,
Speaker 1: can't play as much Ford or doesn't want to play
Speaker 1: as much Ford and Brodie wants kind of their rustling
Speaker 1: for who's getting the more rock time, and then Brody
Speaker 1: kind of gets dropped and then that's kind of where
Speaker 1: the situation lands. So not to say that's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen here Freo, but that's kind of what I'm
Speaker 1: looking at right now and saying hopefully that's not the
Speaker 1: situation they find themselves in, and who knows what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. But I think my ideas you bring Shane
Speaker 1: back in, you put look back forward. Unfortunately, it's going
Speaker 1: to mean one of the big forwards is probably gonna
Speaker 1: have to come out, even though they're probably playing well.
Speaker 1: But it's just the scenario that as a coach you
Speaker 1: probably decide.
Speaker 3: They got gi Amos up there, they got big Dick
Speaker 3: Tracy who's playing some pretty good footy. They've been actually,
Speaker 3: they've actually been spoiled for choice with Fords, minus the
Speaker 3: fact that most of the times have paid this big
Speaker 3: money for.
Speaker 4: Fords and it just hasn't worked.
Speaker 3: I saw Jesse Ogan, who's absolutely killing it at the Giants,
Speaker 3: who's playing just as well at Melbourne, just had a
Speaker 3: massive dip when he went to Freemantle. They had Cam
Speaker 3: McCarthy that didn't work out. Rory Love, Yeah, it's they've
Speaker 3: I reckon. They've settled on a couple of absolute beauties
Speaker 3: Dick Tracy is a rookie, which is in the checkers mold,
Speaker 3: which is.
Speaker 4: You just want someone to go out there and just.
Speaker 2: Do the job for the team.
Speaker 4: Just go out there and do their job.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Tabern is probably that one that's probably coming
Speaker 3: out of that. He's getting a bit older now. Luke
Speaker 3: Jackson could just push forward. He's a good forward, but yeah,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to test it out and see if
Speaker 3: it works. Another one that's actually kind of going all
Speaker 3: right in its you know, infancy is Goldstein and Draper.
Speaker 3: That Draper obviously got subbed oubt late in the game
Speaker 3: and they had to push Goldstein into the rut, which
Speaker 3: did work well. I think the thing is that both
Speaker 3: of those guys can actually play Ford. I think the
Speaker 3: whole thing why the Grundy Gorn thing didn't work is
Speaker 3: that forward aspect Ford element to it.
Speaker 4: But it's always interesting. People always talk.
Speaker 3: And you played two big rucks in the one team
Speaker 3: and you got yourself in DC.
Speaker 2: I've had plenty of experience in forward, and I think
Speaker 2: that's probably what's said. And it's one thing. One of
Speaker 2: our first came to the club.
Speaker 1: I looked at the positions that are available right, you
Speaker 1: had you know, Jared Witz Brodie Grundy, and that was
Speaker 1: my first year there, and I was like, well, it's
Speaker 1: going to take a few years to be able to
Speaker 1: try to even compete with them, to jump them. And
Speaker 1: then we had I think it's Jesse White, and we
Speaker 1: had Travis Klok who wasn't going as well at the time,
Speaker 1: and I kind of looked at and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, if I can diversify as much as
Speaker 1: I can, try to learn two positions in one, it
Speaker 1: gives me double the chances of playing. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, really been my savior at times
Speaker 1: as far as you know, if we as a team
Speaker 1: have someone come in, you know, you can kind of
Speaker 1: push to the other position. If you need that position field,
Speaker 1: you go to the other position, like and that's kind
Speaker 1: of giving me a bit of diversity, I guess in
Speaker 1: my game to the point where I can play multiple positions.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's saved me to be able to have
Speaker 1: those years playing forward. So it is important I think
Speaker 1: for you know, people like Luke who's very similar to
Speaker 1: probably the position I play. He's a lot more mobile
Speaker 1: than I am, obviously, but you know, the ability to
Speaker 1: play those two positions allows them to have more flexibility
Speaker 1: in their team whenever, you know, Sean does come back,
Speaker 1: or if they want to just play him the right purely,
Speaker 1: they can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you imagine it'll affect his numbers Luke Jackson.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, maybe it'll just have he'll
Speaker 3: have more gas in the tank for short bursts.
Speaker 4: Yea, to absolutely just rip up games.
Speaker 3: And in a small burst. But yeah, it was it
Speaker 3: was an interesting one. Another interesting one that we saw
Speaker 3: was another outer bounds line ball decision.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a few over the weekend that
Speaker 3: kind of looked out of bounds, but you could say,
Speaker 3: you know, it's open to interpretation. This one not so so.
Speaker 3: It was a freemantle back half. It was a backwards
Speaker 3: kick to James Ash went over his head and hit
Speaker 3: the behind post on the full. Should have been out
Speaker 3: of bounds on the full. Umpires came together and had
Speaker 3: a discussion and then just called a boundary throw. Now, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know where this sits in the rules, but
Speaker 3: we've had so many rejigs of the umpire system with
Speaker 3: we've got an extra umpire out there, and it seems
Speaker 3: to have delayed calls, made hesitations, non calls. Then there's
Speaker 3: the issue where a field umpire might be in better
Speaker 3: position to call something for a boundary call, but that's
Speaker 3: not their job. It's the boundary umpire's call, and sometimes
Speaker 3: the boundary umpire because they have to do from the
Speaker 3: center circle all the way around to the behind post.
Speaker 3: One kick. This is like fifty sixty meter. Poor bloke's
Speaker 3: got to be humming to get into position. And we've
Speaker 3: seen it a couple of times this year already where
Speaker 3: they're out of position and they missed the call. Now
Speaker 3: this one, they showed the replay on the screen and it.
Speaker 4: As clear as day.
Speaker 3: No no like gray area or anything, No like bunt ball.
Speaker 3: It just went over Ash's head, hit the post on
Speaker 3: the fall, then bounce, and it was like, well, why
Speaker 3: do we have the score review system if you can't
Speaker 3: just go give us a quick look at that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we definitely have vision. Well yeah, why don't
Speaker 1: we just use that to be able to fix the issue.
Speaker 4: And it hit the post.
Speaker 3: So it's like although it wouldn't have been a score,
Speaker 3: it's still related to the goals as a whole. So
Speaker 3: it's just crazy where the umpire situations are and we're
Speaker 3: not going to zone in on one thing, but it's
Speaker 3: more just where we're at. Like it's like they've brought
Speaker 3: in more umpires, which is brought in more confusion and
Speaker 3: we're still nowhere.
Speaker 4: Near closer to like a good goal review system. It's shocking.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this one, it's just and that was probably
Speaker 4: the better one of the.
Speaker 2: Of the weekend.
Speaker 4: The game was still very much on the line.
Speaker 3: It was like two goals in it in the last
Speaker 3: quarter with about seven minutes to go, so it would
Speaker 3: have been a handy crack at goal for North, to
Speaker 3: say the least.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1: It's always going to be room for improvement. I think
Speaker 1: obviously we've talked about before there's a need for more
Speaker 1: umpires to be in the game. So they're trying to
Speaker 1: a few more umpires. There's a lot of them that
Speaker 1: have quite a few games that will be retiring I
Speaker 1: think in the next four to five years, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to really kind of you know, blood and get
Speaker 1: these new umpires up up to the level, you know,
Speaker 1: to be able to have that next generation come through.
Speaker 1: So if there's ability to be able to help them
Speaker 1: through visuals or camera angles or wherever it is to
Speaker 1: make the right call. Then I think we're all for it. Really, Like,
Speaker 1: extra five seconds to make sure that something's right isn't
Speaker 1: going to really kill us in the game, to be honest,
Speaker 1: extra five seconds for me to catch your breath. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty happy with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, obviously we don't want to get in any trouble
Speaker 3: by naming anyone saying anything specific, But have you noticed
Speaker 3: the delaying calls because watching games, I feel like, and
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's because there is an extra
Speaker 3: umpire and you get out of zone calls and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, but it feels like there's been a lot
Speaker 3: of like late whistles and delayed whistles and like calling
Speaker 3: back of moments and like it just seems really disjointed.
Speaker 3: I know there's been a lot of delayed calls and
Speaker 3: some commentary on Fox Footy about delayed whistles, which we've
Speaker 3: talked about in the past when we're trying to stamp
Speaker 3: out you know, sling tackles and all of that type
Speaker 3: of dumping tackle and delayed calls, Can you know, add
Speaker 3: to that and amplify it because they're like, oh, I
Speaker 3: got to take this to ground because it's there's no
Speaker 3: whistle coming.
Speaker 4: Have you noticed these delayed calls, Well, that's.
Speaker 1: Going to find it interesting because it's like I don't
Speaker 1: really think it would matter if you hear two whistles
Speaker 1: back to back, Like if you see something that happens,
Speaker 1: whether you're the person that's in that area, Like you
Speaker 1: might not be that you know, a person that's stealing
Speaker 1: four to fifty, but you might have a better angle
Speaker 1: because of the way they fell or something like that,
Speaker 1: you know they're hiding the ball, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: If you make a call like that, just blow the
Speaker 1: whistle and then if the other person that adjudicates the same,
Speaker 1: then they'll blow the whistle too, and it might be like,
Speaker 1: you know, a half second difference. Yeah, But like to
Speaker 1: us as players, like once we hear whistle, we know
Speaker 1: it's time to stop. We know something's happened, right Whereas
Speaker 1: I don't think there's like any you know, negative to
Speaker 1: having more people trying to call. So yeah, it might
Speaker 1: sound more like a netball game at some point, but
Speaker 1: mostly it's like if you see it, call it, don't
Speaker 1: like wait for someone else to call it.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're talking to each other through the outer
Speaker 3: zone that like I saw this and I saw that.
Speaker 4: So like sometimes it's like if you see it, just
Speaker 4: call it.
Speaker 2: Someone shouldn't be like an issue.
Speaker 4: Someone move on outer.
Speaker 3: Zone, will communicate to someone in their zone and be
Speaker 3: like stop, that's a free kick, and you can see
Speaker 3: them being like, all right, I've blown.
Speaker 4: My whistle, what's it for?
Speaker 3: And they're waiting for a decision which ways are going
Speaker 3: and all of that. It's just I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: it seems really disjointed at the moment, and at least
Speaker 3: from a viewers standpoint, But yeah, I hope they iron
Speaker 3: out the kinks as the season goes on. Let's jump
Speaker 3: into the Hawthorne Melbourne game. It is a very ugly game.
Speaker 3: I don't actually want to talk that much about it
Speaker 3: because it was an ugly.
Speaker 2: Kill them ninety three Hawthorn thirty eight. Yeah it was
Speaker 2: thirty eight for a game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was kind of thinking that Hawthorne was going to
Speaker 3: keep making improvements and it's like it's very early in
Speaker 3: the season to be making hard calls on them, But
Speaker 3: you want to see a hell of a lot more
Speaker 3: improvement out of them than this, and it was made.
Speaker 3: I was watching First Crack last night and they were
Speaker 3: actually saying that it's they're a fair bit further into
Speaker 3: the rebuild than we've been led to believe. They're kind
Speaker 3: of three years into this rebuild because it did start
Speaker 3: in the Claco regime. So yeah, three years into it,
Speaker 3: you definitely want to see a team at least start
Speaker 3: to get into start scoring at least thirty eight points
Speaker 3: in a game.
Speaker 4: That's pretty shocking.
Speaker 3: And you know, they got some pretty good key forwards
Speaker 3: up there to do their thing, a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of good small forwards, and then yeah, it gets
Speaker 3: interesting when it's I think Luke Bruce was subed out
Speaker 3: for Jack Gunston.
Speaker 4: Now, obviously they're older players, so.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing they just need some leadership down there, so
Speaker 3: they take one leader out replacing with another. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, do you want to still be doing that,
Speaker 3: you be just blooding youngsters. They're still not the youngest
Speaker 3: team out there for like a team that's only scoring
Speaker 3: thirty eight like you kind of I want to see
Speaker 3: that progression.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do, But I think it's important to have
Speaker 1: those people that know exactly what is supposed to be happening,
Speaker 1: and being able to put people in the right spots.
Speaker 1: He looked at lou College with Brisbane back in the day,
Speaker 1: like he was essentially there as a coach slash player,
Speaker 1: putting people in different positions, and like, was he the
Speaker 1: most athletic person out there and being able to run
Speaker 1: Now he was, like, I don't know how old he
Speaker 1: was at the time, but he was so important for
Speaker 1: them in their structure to make sure they're in the
Speaker 1: right places. And you look at them whenever he retired,
Speaker 1: how much better off they were for having in the
Speaker 1: environment and being on ground and being able to show
Speaker 1: the main game to help other players understand it whenever
Speaker 1: they start playing. And I think that's there's definitely a
Speaker 1: value to that. Obviously, Hawthorne, you look at it. Thirty
Speaker 1: eight points obviously not ideal. But Melbourne's one of those
Speaker 1: really good teams, Like they're a top fourteen last year,
Speaker 1: they've been top four for the last few years. They
Speaker 1: are definitely putting on him. I think we got people
Speaker 1: kicking five goals we had for after it. I say
Speaker 1: his name every single thing.
Speaker 3: Fridge, which is Frida, which is I wanted to ask,
Speaker 3: what's your favorite fritter.
Speaker 2: I've only known a corn fritter.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so there's here. We've got the pineapple fridder.
Speaker 3: It's all just deep fried stuff.
Speaker 2: That's fair food. Yeah, like steep fairfood.
Speaker 4: Like a banana fritter.
Speaker 2: Oh fried banana really good? Yeah, I will say, very good.
Speaker 4: My favorite thing.
Speaker 3: I big, big country boy me and Harrow on the
Speaker 3: decks country boys.
Speaker 4: He's not so much. He's from Rochy, CBD.
Speaker 2: But I'm from the big smoke.
Speaker 4: Right out there. We go camping and what we do?
Speaker 3: You get the banana, slice it down the middle, Cadbury
Speaker 3: chocolate in it, wrap it in tinfoil, chuck it on
Speaker 3: the fire.
Speaker 2: Looks like an Australian s'more.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you just hate that up. Let it
Speaker 3: all ooze through and melt and then just burn the
Speaker 3: ship out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: Right, I love that.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get back to footya how we go into
Speaker 1: this food thing? But yeah, first kick fi goals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Fred Fritch, we'll say.
Speaker 3: And it's cool because I do get what you mean
Speaker 3: with the leadership up there, when you do have so
Speaker 3: many absolute jet small forwards to be learning off the
Speaker 3: likes of like Luke Bruce and Jack Gunstan.
Speaker 4: You've got Guinny. He's going to be up there.
Speaker 3: He's going to be around for a long time, so
Speaker 3: it's good to be able to learn off them while
Speaker 3: you still can. Nick Watson, the Wizard Whiz was up there,
Speaker 3: kicked his first goal, which is awesome to see. You
Speaker 3: like to see the kids, you know, getting out there
Speaker 3: getting some experience. Now, another kid he had twenty nine touches,
Speaker 3: kicked the goal, Christian Patruca.
Speaker 4: But that's not why he gained attention.
Speaker 3: Because there was a moment where it was a long
Speaker 3: high ball into Melbourne's defense and Christian Petruca got back
Speaker 3: and spoiled. Spoiled, But he looked happier than when he
Speaker 3: kicked his guy. He was getting back high ten, big
Speaker 3: smile on his face. After the game, he said that
Speaker 3: is because his teammates give him shit because he only
Speaker 3: averages one defensive spoil per year. So the last three
Speaker 3: years he's averaged one defensive spoil. Person I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: telling the media that he was just stoked that he
Speaker 3: got it in round two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, he's already he's already hit the quota.
Speaker 2: He doesn't need to go back into D fifty anymore.
Speaker 1: I did see the old double cobras as soon as
Speaker 1: he got the spoil. But I think like as a
Speaker 1: you know, as a midfielder, I think it was such
Speaker 1: an effort, Like if you looked at the zoomed out
Speaker 1: vision of it, he was a fair way off the
Speaker 1: person of the goal square. They're up by a decent amount,
Speaker 1: Like no one's going to really give him crap or
Speaker 1: flak if he doesn't make that effort right. He goes
Speaker 1: on a full tilt sprint and just knocks the surup
Speaker 1: of the line. And it's like, you know, whenever your
Speaker 1: team you're humming and stuff like they were, you really
Speaker 1: get to enjoy and I guess celebrate those little things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like in a close, tight game, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: like a quick eye five ce later move on to
Speaker 1: the next thing. But in those games were really kind
Speaker 1: of head quite a bit, you actually get to have
Speaker 1: a bit of a laugh and enjoyment or around it.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think he saw out a track
Speaker 1: in that moment. It's a sign they're going really well.
Speaker 1: You know, whenever you have leaders making those decisions, you know,
Speaker 1: no matter what the score is on the or what
Speaker 1: the number is on the scoreboard, They're still trying to
Speaker 1: do the best no matter what it is.
Speaker 2: And it's a good sign with out of the club.
Speaker 3: Speaking of leaders, Stephen May and Jake Lever big injuries
Speaker 3: out of this game now. Jake Leaver is a kind
Speaker 3: of a bit of a wait and see. They strapped
Speaker 3: up his knee, but he didn't come back onto the ground.
Speaker 3: And Stephen May, boy, he cut a knee kind of
Speaker 3: under the armpit by Marvey ol Cho.
Speaker 4: He's a big boy.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be coming a knee from him anywhere.
Speaker 3: But I love how the news has been painting this one.
Speaker 3: They're like, good news, Stephen May only has two broken
Speaker 3: ribs and damaged vertebra Yeah, how many vertebrae is a
Speaker 3: good amount to have damaged?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I would probably say none.
Speaker 2: I would say none.
Speaker 4: But that's pretty good news for him. But he might
Speaker 4: miss only a week.
Speaker 1: That is that baffles me if you're saying damage br
Speaker 1: like that's not something that just like heals like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it takes a while for your back, which
Speaker 1: is not really replaceable, to get better.
Speaker 2: But the two ribs.
Speaker 1: I was I was thinking abou whenever I had this,
Speaker 1: because I had a broken rib last year and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, it is the worst feeling because.
Speaker 2: You every breath you.
Speaker 1: Take, you're just in agony and pain. You just you
Speaker 1: feel it and there's nothing you can.
Speaker 2: Do for it.
Speaker 1: You just have to let it sit there and you
Speaker 1: put a pad or like a guard or something on.
Speaker 1: But there is literally no like rehab for it. There's
Speaker 1: no nothing. You just have to fight through the pain
Speaker 1: for like six weeks. So I can imagine that night
Speaker 1: after the game, or that night of the game, he
Speaker 1: would have had a pretty sleepless night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah he went to hospital spend the night.
Speaker 3: It would have been pretty rough. You never want to
Speaker 3: spend the night in the hospital. You can attest to that.
Speaker 3: I actually did allegedly break a rib playing indoor soccer.
Speaker 3: When I say allegedly, because I went to the club
Speaker 3: doctor of Collingwood, yeah, and they said, well, yeah, you've
Speaker 3: probably broken it, but you can go get a scan.
Speaker 3: And then they just confirmed that you've broken it and
Speaker 3: then they can't do anything.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I'll just go, I'll just
Speaker 1: tell the stories if it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did break those rips. Let's jump into the
Speaker 3: Sydney Essendon game, because out of all the games, so much.
Speaker 4: To talk about.
Speaker 3: Out of this one, the biggest talking point will jump
Speaker 3: straight into it. Off the top, big two meter Peter
Speaker 3: just ran through Cunningham and it's one of those ones
Speaker 3: that will talk about and they'll be debated all week.
Speaker 3: But it was a marking contest. Now, two meter Peter
Speaker 3: didn't put his arms out, he didn't try to spoil,
Speaker 3: He just braced himself. He braced for contact, and unfortunately
Speaker 3: Cunningham was the one that was on the receiving end,
Speaker 3: fully knocked out cold and was helped from the ground. Now,
Speaker 3: this one's going to be debated all week. But how
Speaker 3: do you see this? Not in terms of this incident
Speaker 3: as a specific, but it's been discussed that don't be
Speaker 3: surprised if you see players kind of pulling out a
Speaker 3: contest or stopping short. I keep harping back onto the
Speaker 3: conversation that we had pretty much round zero that I
Speaker 3: feel like the players are the last layer of mitigation
Speaker 3: to risk and I feel like that's the mindset that
Speaker 3: needs to change.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm not going to get there. It might
Speaker 4: I might be line ball.
Speaker 3: I might get there at the same time, but it's
Speaker 3: definitely not my ball. He's getting there first. I just
Speaker 3: have to pull up and do what I can to
Speaker 3: hold up play and stop play because there's just going to.
Speaker 4: Be more and more of these incidents.
Speaker 3: We're not really going to progress forward because people that
Speaker 3: are saying, oh, he should have put an arm out
Speaker 3: to look like he was trying to spoil and he
Speaker 3: would have got off. I don't think it's a oh,
Speaker 3: what can we do to finesse the system to try
Speaker 3: and get off to make it look like I was
Speaker 3: trying to do something.
Speaker 4: You're not going to get there. Just pull up, hold
Speaker 4: up play.
Speaker 2: There is this whole thing I think in AFL.
Speaker 1: I've realized this is like there's a there's probably like
Speaker 1: a second to a half second after a person mark,
Speaker 1: so you can still make contact with them, right And
Speaker 1: it's a whole the makeing earn it attitude, And I
Speaker 1: think that's probably one thing the AFL is looking at
Speaker 1: is going if you do hit someone after they've taken
Speaker 1: a mark or they've gone for the contest and it
Speaker 1: is at half second something free kick right away, right
Speaker 1: where it's like kind of this weird gray area that
Speaker 1: the AFL has where you can still kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, act like you're still jumping into them and
Speaker 1: like make them try to, you know, fumble the ball.
Speaker 1: And I think like situations like this will definitely make
Speaker 1: it to the point where they're going to go more
Speaker 1: extreme on the side you need to pull out of
Speaker 1: that contest. Yeah, and you know, we've always talked about
Speaker 1: concussion here, and we've talked about head high contact and
Speaker 1: we take it very seriously. In this situation, it's you
Speaker 1: never want to see someone. We'll probably talk about it
Speaker 1: in the game with Mason Wood with Saint Kilda. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you never, never, never, never want to see it. But
Speaker 1: I think the AFL will look at these situations you
Speaker 1: go all right, one, you know, they'll judicate it with
Speaker 1: their kind of grid system of high contact, intentional, all
Speaker 1: these kind of things wherever it is, and then be
Speaker 1: able to put out the penalty. But whenever it comes
Speaker 1: to these situations, they're going to go, Okay, how do
Speaker 1: we mitigate these as much as possible in the game.
Speaker 1: That's probably going to mean those ones where you say
Speaker 1: you need to make them earn it by going in there,
Speaker 1: you know, and really kind of like bashing into their
Speaker 1: body after they've kind of already been in the contest.
Speaker 1: After that half second, they're going to probably start penalizing
Speaker 1: those and I don't know if it'll be a fifty
Speaker 1: meters free kick or whoever it may be, but it's
Speaker 1: similar to like, you know, tackling someone and holding onto
Speaker 1: them whenever they you sing them to the ground. You know,
Speaker 1: It's similar to that after the kind of the the
Speaker 1: deal's been done, someone's already made the dispose of wherever
Speaker 1: it is, and you decided to do an extra effort
Speaker 1: to make them hurt, right, And I think that's one
Speaker 1: thing with the marketing contest, and it's going to be adjudicated,
Speaker 1: probably pretty heavily over the next you know, for the
Speaker 1: rest of the season. I think there's been a few
Speaker 1: already contests and stuff that's happened, and you know, they've
Speaker 1: been sent to the tribunal, and that's just going to
Speaker 1: be the future I think of the game.
Speaker 3: I did like the take bracing for contact is essentially
Speaker 3: saying I'm going to protect myself over your opposition. That's
Speaker 3: you saying, look, I need to protect me because I'm
Speaker 3: getting there, laid or whatever over my opposition. I think
Speaker 3: the thought needs to change to I can see in
Speaker 3: front of me, he can't see behind him. Players need
Speaker 3: to start looking after other players. Which is going to
Speaker 3: be that's a question that it's going to be a
Speaker 3: mindset that a lot of people don't like. Fans aren't
Speaker 3: going to like it. You're not gonna you know, it's
Speaker 3: just going to be one of those things where it's,
Speaker 3: you know, Peter's leading up at that ball.
Speaker 4: Peter Wright's leading up at that ball.
Speaker 3: He knows what's in front of him, and Cunningham's just
Speaker 3: putting himself back in a position. It's going to have
Speaker 3: to get to the point where we draw a line
Speaker 3: in the sand and say whose obligation is it Cunningham's
Speaker 3: not to put himself in a vulnerable position and go
Speaker 3: back with the flight, or is it Peter Wright leading
Speaker 3: up at the ball going I can see I'm going
Speaker 3: to steamroll him.
Speaker 2: It's the person that sees the ball and the man. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's going to be very interesting, and it's
Speaker 3: We're still a while away, but I feel like we're
Speaker 3: progressing at a really quick rate.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Someone that didn't like the incident, which is understandable, Tom Pappley,
Speaker 3: and he voiced his opinion over and over and over
Speaker 3: as he actually did it on three separate occasions. One
Speaker 3: was coming off the ground, one was coming off the
Speaker 3: ground at halftime doing the interview, because it's it's been
Speaker 3: out there that Brad Scott was saying that, you know,
Speaker 3: SNN needs to play with his hard edge, his hard edge,
Speaker 3: and Tom Papley was questioning whether the hard edge was
Speaker 3: more like sniping or was it you know, you're going
Speaker 3: for the ball. Now, obviously he would have his own
Speaker 3: opinion because he's, you know, his teammates has just been
Speaker 3: knocked out in the contest, so he was questioning whether
Speaker 3: it was at the man or at the ball, and
Speaker 3: he kept on going on with it.
Speaker 1: Now, is this in the heat of the moment? I
Speaker 1: halftime too, Like you'd be still filthy about it. You
Speaker 1: haven't really taken a breath about the situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read it. I read the fact that these
Speaker 2: supporting his teammates. Well, I have no issue with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He had another couple of cracks at it after the game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it definitely builds some spice for the next encounter.
Speaker 4: We've been through this, We've talked about this.
Speaker 3: Are people ready for players to start speaking their mind
Speaker 3: a bit more? Because as much as we say, oh,
Speaker 3: he spoke his mind, absolutely love it, would love to
Speaker 3: see more of it. This whole week is going to
Speaker 3: be talking about that, and you know there'll be a
Speaker 3: spotlight on it because there's not enough things like this
Speaker 3: that happen. There's only Normally one player goes out there,
Speaker 3: they stick their head up and then they get whacked
Speaker 3: and then they go back into their shell and they
Speaker 3: don't want to do it again. Hopefully Tom Papley is
Speaker 3: not like that. We know that he's an outspoken bloke,
Speaker 3: but do you reckon people are ready for We say
Speaker 3: one thing and I think we meet another. Because we
Speaker 3: say we want to see players talk shit it then
Speaker 3: as soon as one player says anything remotely charismatic that
Speaker 3: can promote the game.
Speaker 4: We absolutely tee off on them.
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking minor stuff. It's like death threats,
Speaker 3: it's like violence. It's like they'll reach out to the
Speaker 3: families that we'll see racism, we'll see like all kinds
Speaker 3: of vile trash yep. But every other week we're asking
Speaker 3: to see more of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the media wants to see
Speaker 1: more of it because it creates a better atmosphere for
Speaker 1: the game. So I think for people actually agree with
Speaker 1: it or are ready for it, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I look at obviously, like being an American, you'll look
Speaker 1: at that side of things and what kind of personality
Speaker 1: people can actually show out there. Totally different, totally different
Speaker 1: the mentality. You know, you talk about top poppy syndrome
Speaker 1: in Australia. The fact that you have a terminology for
Speaker 1: it is probably a sign that it's a problem.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The fact that you can sit there and be like,
Speaker 1: now we're actually going to create a word just for
Speaker 1: this situation because we're so shit at it, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: probably a sign within itself. But you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like it's going to take
Speaker 1: people like PAPS and myself and others are in the
Speaker 1: AFL to just keep pushing that, you know, that initiative
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, we do have a voice
Speaker 1: and I'm here to protect my teammates and whether you
Speaker 1: agree with me or not, like that's that's your opinion
Speaker 1: and you can I can respect that, but I have
Speaker 1: to agree with it, and it's it's one of those
Speaker 1: things like if it's your team, right, Like if you're
Speaker 1: a support, you're like, oh, it's great for peraps. If
Speaker 1: you're in essence sport, you're going fuck Papal. He's a
Speaker 1: dickhead and it's well, now he's just trying to protect
Speaker 1: his team, as if you would protect a mate of yourself.
Speaker 3: People want to hear outspoken players unless it's about their team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it's a free for all. It's on
Speaker 4: for young and all.
Speaker 1: The media one it's more headline for them, Yeah, more
Speaker 1: papers to sell, more everything else. But we I mean
Speaker 1: we look at whenever the whole GWS thing happened, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: media was filthy that I wanted to talk about it
Speaker 1: on this podcast because they didn't get clicks for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a pissed And imagine if you didn't have
Speaker 3: a podcast, you wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: You would never no one to know the truth anyway.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to speak about it, but another out
Speaker 3: of it before you go, another out of bound situation,
Speaker 3: and this one, I believe was probably the worst.
Speaker 4: Of the weekend.
Speaker 3: You might argue something different, but Kyle Langford marked the ball,
Speaker 3: it would have to be a meter and a half.
Speaker 2: Over the lone on the astro turf.
Speaker 3: Essentially, he was very close to running onto the astro turf.
Speaker 3: And although we saw in your game Jeremie Howe get
Speaker 3: called for play on while he was standing out of
Speaker 3: bounds and it got called for a throw in, Kyle
Speaker 3: Langford marked it out of bounds and continue to run
Speaker 3: down the wing out of bounds before coming back into play.
Speaker 3: He kicked the ball inside Essendon's Ford fifty and it
Speaker 3: resulted in a direct goal. Now, with the amount of
Speaker 3: umpires that are standing out there, I don't know how
Speaker 3: all the players know what happened. All the fans know
Speaker 3: what happened, Every commentator on the broadcast, every blokes sitting
Speaker 3: at home, every guy sinking pots of the pub.
Speaker 2: Everyone twelve pub knows what's going on.
Speaker 3: Everyone knew what was happening except for the umpires in
Speaker 3: that situation. And it's just as a professional organization and league,
Speaker 3: we can't have that happen.
Speaker 2: That can't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's yeah, I get that. You can't tee
Speaker 3: off on people. You can't tee off on umpires, especially
Speaker 3: because we want more of them in the game.
Speaker 1: But it's just when Channel seven shows every different angle
Speaker 1: of how it's wrong. Yeah, it doesn't help the situation.
Speaker 3: No, it definitely doesn't help the situation. And it's like
Speaker 3: if it's a procedural thing, if it's a maybe the
Speaker 3: field umpire saw it, but the boundary umpire wasn't in position.
Speaker 3: We need a system to be able to have a
Speaker 3: field umpire overall or give their opinion based on that
Speaker 3: because it was it was shocking, but like he's.
Speaker 2: Going to be a mistakes made bra that's just part
Speaker 2: of the football game.
Speaker 3: There was multiple out of bounds this weekend, which we
Speaker 3: will get to the third one later that's two or three.
Speaker 3: And Travis Clark, this was a great This is a
Speaker 3: great one. This was like clock This takes me back
Speaker 3: to just like, you know, a common sense one almost
Speaker 3: nineties esque, when when some of that common sense still
Speaker 3: you know, existed.
Speaker 4: But there was a bit of a fracker, a bit
Speaker 4: of a malle.
Speaker 3: Now Travis Cloaks, the runner for Essendon, he was out there,
Speaker 3: he ran around and grabbed pretty much every Essendon player
Speaker 3: didn't touch any of the opposition, grabbed them and pulled
Speaker 3: them out of the malle. And said get back to
Speaker 3: your position. They all respected him, they all trust him,
Speaker 3: and they did see Travis did not question. He's got
Speaker 3: the big handlebar mustache, the big waus mustache.
Speaker 4: You're like, who's pulling at me?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, it's wherever you want me to.
Speaker 2: Sorry, sir, I'm so sorry. I apologize. What do you want?
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a cook you tomorrows?
Speaker 3: You know now they're going around there like putting out
Speaker 3: warnings to clubs saying runner, you know, redefining their roles,
Speaker 3: stay out of it, which I get if it like
Speaker 3: sets a bad precedent or whatever going forward. But it
Speaker 3: was good to see Trav go in there and go
Speaker 3: hey boy, stuffing around probably like that, and everyone moved on,
Speaker 3: So it was glad. I was happy to see it.
Speaker 3: Always happy to see tremor cloke, to be honest.
Speaker 2: But it's like NBA.
Speaker 1: Right when there's a scuff on the NBA, the coaches
Speaker 1: come out there, all the assistant coaches come out and
Speaker 1: they start pulling people off each other and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So obviously Foot is a bit different. But I understand
Speaker 1: that side of things. But I think Travis Clark had
Speaker 1: the right intentions, just to try to, you know, just
Speaker 1: settle the situation that was out there.
Speaker 3: If you were in a malle and you just saw
Speaker 3: Clarko coming over to you and he's rolling his sleeves up.
Speaker 4: You're like, oh god, jeepers, get me out of here.
Speaker 3: I just want to say one quick one on like
Speaker 3: a well done. I want to say Zach Merritt. There's
Speaker 3: been a lot of shots over his entire playing career,
Speaker 3: A lot to be said about his pressure tackling, you know,
Speaker 3: two way running. Nothing that I can judge on because
Speaker 3: I wouldn't too way run to the fridge and back
Speaker 3: to get a beer. But he had an amazing game,
Speaker 3: although Essnton lost. He was really trying to carry them
Speaker 3: over the line on his back. Last quarter he rundown tackles,
Speaker 3: kicking goals. There was a moment where he got subbed
Speaker 3: off for a seven minute period or whatever.
Speaker 4: Sydney kicked a couple more goals.
Speaker 3: He came back out there, more tackles, more goals. He
Speaker 3: was doing everything. So it's awesome to see he's been
Speaker 3: given the captaincy and you know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's seen a changing mindset or whatever, but he's yeah,
Speaker 3: he's definitely leading from the front and it was crazy
Speaker 3: to watch him out there. We've got to get through
Speaker 3: this Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast. This is one that we
Speaker 3: can get some time back on, Max because yeah, just
Speaker 3: a bit sad, count a bit sad to see you
Speaker 3: boys go out there, Gold Coast, out to Beller Out.
Speaker 4: What did you make of the game?
Speaker 1: Packed house ninety seven hundred out there at Beller Right,
Speaker 1: they showed up.
Speaker 4: That was good.
Speaker 1: Actually, that's actually pretty good for a country foot game
Speaker 1: like blood. Yeah, yeah, my Gold Coast signs. Unfortunately, not
Speaker 1: the greatest night.
Speaker 3: No, what was cool was seeing Matty Raugo head to
Speaker 3: head with Tom Libertore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, licking your lips.
Speaker 1: He felt real at home out there. Riemio Primo Grass
Speaker 1: out there all Matt Ralph Yeah, but no, I think yeah,
Speaker 1: Gorko signs. Unfortunately, couldn't get couldn't get up on this one.
Speaker 1: Cody Weightman had six goals, five and a half, absolutely dominated,
Speaker 1: was was incredible on the day, had thirty two and
Speaker 1: two goals. So the Bulldogs had a bit of a
Speaker 1: day out, especially some of their big players.
Speaker 3: We did talk about the malee that happened in the
Speaker 3: essening game.
Speaker 4: There was a little frakker.
Speaker 3: There's a frack that happened in a lot of games, yeah,
Speaker 3: but in this one we're in particular. There was an
Speaker 3: interesting moment. It was Latham Vandermire came across and kind
Speaker 3: of it was a simultaneous hit. We'll say, Alex Sxxton
Speaker 3: kicking the ball and it looked like his shoulders may
Speaker 3: have got Alex.
Speaker 4: Sex high a little, just a little sit little.
Speaker 3: Chef, and Sexton didn't take too kindly to it and
Speaker 3: almost did like a little palm shove.
Speaker 2: Off on later, open hand, open hand, open and.
Speaker 3: He's smart boy. But Latham, my god, it was luck
Speaker 3: he was shot. He went yeah, holding his head, a
Speaker 3: real soccer player esque. Now we don't like to throw
Speaker 3: the players under the bus, but cheapest it sparked a malee.
Speaker 3: Everyone's coming in, Bond's coming in, flying the flag for
Speaker 3: his players, and they're all ragged on each other.
Speaker 4: It's surely lath.
Speaker 3: You've got to look at the replay screen if they
Speaker 3: have one out there.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if.
Speaker 3: They do, but geez, you gotta be going. I don't
Speaker 3: want to see they got him on super slow mo.
Speaker 3: He's caught in four k just playing it up. You
Speaker 3: have to come up with an excuse for that one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he got me. I had a bad year. Ear infectionate
Speaker 3: just shook me. It's yeah, there's.
Speaker 1: One place to get away with it. It's probably right
Speaker 1: though they wouldn't have as many camera angles there.
Speaker 4: Cold down there and my ears were frozen.
Speaker 3: You got to be shaping. We move into the Richmond
Speaker 3: Port game. Richmond, I guess uh, you know, courageous in defeat.
Speaker 3: They've they've done that a couple of times now and
Speaker 3: I think that'll be their year where they've just a
Speaker 3: lot of close ones, a lot of you know, good
Speaker 3: efforts but just couldn't get over the line.
Speaker 2: But Port big game report, Yeah game.
Speaker 3: They need to as all interstate teams do, need to
Speaker 3: be able to come over to Melbourne prove that they
Speaker 3: can get him win at the MCG good against a
Speaker 3: good opposition, but both three fiftieth.
Speaker 2: Big story to get to three hundred and fifty games.
Speaker 2: It is not a fluke.
Speaker 3: He's had a bit of a roller coaster in recent times,
Speaker 3: but like to give up the captaincy and then be
Speaker 3: able to focus on footy, and that almost coincided, like
Speaker 3: we saw a massive spike right after that happened. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if if it's just him back to
Speaker 3: love and footy or whatever, but he's been playing some
Speaker 3: ripping footy over the last couple of years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, it's a credit to him, man, especially at this
Speaker 1: age still being able to perform at a high level.
Speaker 1: It's not easy. And yeah, he had worth fifteen touches
Speaker 1: over the weekend. It was just I think for myself
Speaker 1: watching the game, it was just so nice to see
Speaker 1: them get around him. Yeah, especially celebrating after the game
Speaker 1: with him and stuff like that. You know, it's such
Speaker 1: a feel good moment at a club whenever you have
Speaker 1: such a big milestone person and be able to win
Speaker 1: that game and have that kind of happy attitude leaving there,
Speaker 1: like the last thing you want is to lose that game.
Speaker 1: Him sit there, this whole family there and trying to
Speaker 1: be happy in the shitty situation. It was good to
Speaker 1: see them when good to see all the boys get
Speaker 1: around him. He's meant so much of that club. He's
Speaker 1: been to face of that club for a long long time.
Speaker 1: Him and Ken have had a nice long relationship over there,
Speaker 1: and it's a credit to him.
Speaker 2: So shout out to old Boki.
Speaker 4: Now I'm going to butcher this name, Mike Kelty Lafel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna apologize before you can go to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite parts to the game. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of heartwarming things in this game, very good
Speaker 1: heart warming.
Speaker 4: His family's pre game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he had a bunch of family members fly
Speaker 1: over and they did the hawker for him pre game.
Speaker 1: She's pretty so everyone knows the hawker is the traditional
Speaker 1: dance over there in New Zealand that a lot of
Speaker 1: the tribes do, and he had that pre game and
Speaker 1: they did a little thing for him out there, which
Speaker 1: is really cool and I'm sure it would have meant
Speaker 1: a lot. I know he had that amazing kind of
Speaker 1: vision of him whenever he was picked up by Richmond,
Speaker 1: him calling his parents and stuff and how much it
Speaker 1: meant to him, and it was very heartwarming there. And
Speaker 1: then you know, as a as a New Zealand native,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that would would have meant a lot to
Speaker 1: him to have the club be able to allow his
Speaker 1: family to do that pre game for him. They are
Speaker 1: a very inclusive club over there at Richmond Football Club.
Speaker 1: They do some pretty amazing stuff in the community, and
Speaker 1: I think this is just one of those signs of
Speaker 1: what they do and looking after their players and respecting
Speaker 1: where they come from and different cultural things they have
Speaker 1: that are involved with their families.
Speaker 4: It was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: We will move into the West Coast GWS game sadly because.
Speaker 2: It was a bit of a got up a team.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I don't know, watch what we got? How
Speaker 2: do you go?
Speaker 3: He actually he actually did pretty well, and I think
Speaker 3: everyone would have seen the vision because it was a
Speaker 3: bit of a one two fend off and then he
Speaker 3: copped a massive hit at the end, but set up
Speaker 3: set up a mark inside fifty, so it was cool.
Speaker 4: He will start to do more and more as his
Speaker 4: career progresses.
Speaker 3: He's only a couple of games in, but yeah, GWS
Speaker 3: got the win, first time they've ever been three, and
Speaker 3: oh it's a start a season, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: I did see another one from Toby Green. He took
Speaker 3: his studs up mark that no one called him on,
Speaker 3: which is good to see that he's getting away with it,
Speaker 3: which is I like the studs up mark kick.
Speaker 1: I've got studs on on my quad right now.
Speaker 3: You can see that because you're normally the step ladder
Speaker 3: out there. But yeah, there was another good moment from
Speaker 3: this game where Ben Cousins was wearing the full West
Speaker 3: Coast kit. He's looking at Ripping Nick running around out
Speaker 3: there playing in the past Eagles V's Sons and Daughter's
Speaker 3: curtain raiser. So it's always good to see, you know,
Speaker 3: Ben's road to recovery. He's had a lot of rough years,
Speaker 3: but good to see him bouncing back.
Speaker 2: And doing some media recently. Smith.
Speaker 4: It just it's an instant throwback. He looks so young
Speaker 4: out there and.
Speaker 2: Trim Australians just absolutely love him.
Speaker 1: I never saw him in the flash whenever he played,
Speaker 1: but he's one of those kind of legends as far
Speaker 1: as a football player that people really just look back on.
Speaker 3: Finally, that midfield cock ker jud Cousins. Please all right,
Speaker 3: let's jump into the absolute. Let's get it over with
Speaker 3: the absolute car crash that was Collingwood versus Saint Kilda.
Speaker 3: I did say that last week wasn't great, I feel,
Speaker 3: although we had some nice words from Fly saying that
Speaker 3: there were elements of Collingwood's game and that this as
Speaker 3: far as a game to watch if you're a Collingwood
Speaker 3: fan It wasn't fun because it was mixed with the
Speaker 3: element of a lot of umpire decisions, a lot of
Speaker 3: one way umpire decisions, not saying whether they were correct
Speaker 3: or incorrect, because I looked at the game and I
Speaker 3: just said, I couldn't pick a lot of Collingwood players
Speaker 3: that played, you know, a great game. That was the
Speaker 3: way that I called it, That was the way that
Speaker 3: I saw it. How was it out there? What are
Speaker 3: you seeing from these are you are you starting to
Speaker 3: turn it around? Do you see elements of your game
Speaker 3: coming through? How was Saint Kilda? Everyone kind of you
Speaker 3: can't downplay what they've done, what they did last year.
Speaker 3: They've proved that they're a consistent, high pressure team, and
Speaker 3: it seems like you were under pressure.
Speaker 4: A lot of the night.
Speaker 1: The pressure is really good on the night. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people forget there were top eight last year.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but yeah, they played really well
Speaker 1: on the weekend. It was credit to them. We weren't
Speaker 1: probably as clean as we'd like to be some of
Speaker 1: the fundamental aspects, but I think there was like signs
Speaker 1: of us being able to play well. We went on
Speaker 1: a little bit of a run for a short period there,
Speaker 1: and that was kind of you know, that was kind
Speaker 1: of showing signs of what we were a lot of
Speaker 1: last year, you know, being able to go on these
Speaker 1: runs and finish our games and stuff like that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that. It wasn't the result we wanted obviously,
Speaker 1: but I think there was aspects of the games. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll sit there and we'll review that. We're going to
Speaker 1: it and say, you know, how are we able to
Speaker 1: execute whenever we were going well, what was going on
Speaker 1: and what was what it changed and be able to
Speaker 1: try to you know, extend that out and be a
Speaker 1: longer period throughout the game. So it's yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: tough pill to swallowing three, but that's the that's the
Speaker 1: situation we're in and we look forward to Brisbane.
Speaker 3: There's been some comments made by Russ Lyne talked about it,
Speaker 3: Luke Hodge talked about it. Respected people in the game
Speaker 3: that Collingwood to a degree. When you're when you're the
Speaker 3: premiership team, you know, you're always the team getting chased down.
Speaker 3: Does it seem like teams have kind of figured out
Speaker 3: your game style and have figured out how to kind
Speaker 3: of try to shut it down.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, whenever you win a Grand Final, I
Speaker 1: mean I look at kind of previous years and other
Speaker 1: teams that I've won it. You definitely look at the
Speaker 1: game plan, the game style. I mean, you look back
Speaker 1: to Richmond and their dynasty. Whenever the dynasty, but there
Speaker 1: are three premierships that they wont.
Speaker 2: Dynasty is at three three or four? It's three three, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Well the dominants we'll say dominance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, guys, dominance. You look at that, and then
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the way the game was played
Speaker 1: was really changed when that they're winning it. So you
Speaker 1: do look at the top kind of teams and take
Speaker 1: a few kind of you know, leaves out of their
Speaker 1: book and and try to see if you can emulate
Speaker 1: that in your own game plan and change things up
Speaker 1: to see kind of if it would it will work
Speaker 1: work well with what you're doing. So I'm sure that
Speaker 1: people over the off season have looked at what we've done,
Speaker 1: looked at the way we've structured up and everything else.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've taken a few ideas from that,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's the thing we consistently get better.
Speaker 1: Why people are always going to be chasing the people
Speaker 1: at the top, and you know, it's just a sign
Speaker 1: that we need to keep being better at what we're doing.
Speaker 1: And you can that you know, it's it's a bit
Speaker 1: of an understanding whenever you lose a few games that
Speaker 1: you know, this is something you can't you can't slack on.
Speaker 1: You got to try to keep getting better every single day.
Speaker 1: We keep saying out at the club and we want
Speaker 1: to make sure that that's a priority of ours no
Speaker 1: matter what the situation is. We walk in there and
Speaker 1: we don't ride the roller coaster of the wins and
Speaker 1: the losses every single week. You know, we want to
Speaker 1: make sure that we go in we have a purpose
Speaker 1: for training, a purpose of what we're doing and what
Speaker 1: we want to get better on and be able to
Speaker 1: execute it.
Speaker 3: And when you're not winning, it's easy, especially when you're
Speaker 3: the premier is people start trying to pick holes in
Speaker 3: it and pick pick holes in players games. Now, there's
Speaker 3: been a lot of talk about the older players at
Speaker 3: the club. You're one of them, but you haven't heard
Speaker 3: a lot of Mason Cox's names out there in the media.
Speaker 3: Just runs they got it out there. Scott Pendlebury fearless leader.
Speaker 3: Scott Pendlebury, you know, almost four hundred game player, absolutely
Speaker 3: legend coming under fire saying you know, his time might
Speaker 3: be coming to an end.
Speaker 4: But is this something that's just.
Speaker 3: The disrespect at a bloke that's pretty much done everything
Speaker 3: you can do. And he would be the last guy
Speaker 3: that I would point out to go, oh, you had
Speaker 3: a he had a light off season or anything to
Speaker 3: the like, because I've never met a more professional man
Speaker 3: in my entire life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the most consummate professional I've ever met in
Speaker 1: my life. And this is the thing, right, It's like,
Speaker 1: if you want to headline, who do you go straight to?
Speaker 1: People have a name that will create kind of clicks
Speaker 1: and create reads and all this kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, these are the people we're probably going
Speaker 1: to target this week. And that's that's just the cycle
Speaker 1: of media, right, Why you get brought out?
Speaker 2: What do you mean is that why you didn't get
Speaker 2: brought good enough?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's probably actually, but I think like you come to realize,
Speaker 1: I'm sure pendle has been through this before, Like you
Speaker 1: come to realize that there's not much you can do
Speaker 1: about that, that that kind is going to happened out
Speaker 1: on the adder whoever it is, made it him or
Speaker 1: you know, someone else on the team, whoever it may be,
Speaker 1: the media is going to take those shots of people,
Speaker 1: and like, at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 1: we just can control what we can control. And I
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is whenever those things happen, it
Speaker 1: kind of almost makes us come back together even more
Speaker 1: to say, look, we're going to support this person whatever's happening.
Speaker 2: And I think that's just one of those things. Older
Speaker 2: you get, the more you realize, and then.
Speaker 1: Probably less it affects you sometimes where you just say,
Speaker 1: look like, I've been through this before.
Speaker 2: I know how it works. You know, they can hate
Speaker 2: you one week and love you the next week, and
Speaker 2: that's just how it is, and it just it almost
Speaker 2: kind of is is easier, I guess the older and
Speaker 2: the more experience you have with it to understand exactly
Speaker 2: how you know the environment of media works in Australia.
Speaker 3: Now, where were you when Jack Higgins kicked his goal?
Speaker 2: I was cooked.
Speaker 1: I think I was in the four line rolling back
Speaker 1: and I saw him out in the car park and
Speaker 1: I thought maybe he had left his keys or something
Speaker 1: and went back to the car to make sure they're there,
Speaker 1: and then he came back in and somehow the umpire
Speaker 1: put two pistols out and I was kind of confused
Speaker 1: what happened, But yes, and then of course it gets
Speaker 1: Goal of the Year, which is the second time Jack
Speaker 1: Higgins has gotten a Goal of the Year nomination for
Speaker 1: something that shouldn't have been a goal of the year. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Jack, I'm a big fan jackings A.
Speaker 1: He's an absolute legend. But it is kind of funny
Speaker 1: and ironic that I feel like every single time he's
Speaker 1: getting a goal of the year, for some reason, it's
Speaker 1: against us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the celebration was a cracker, and the little church
Speaker 3: just as much of disbelief.
Speaker 4: Afterwards.
Speaker 3: It almost makes it better when it's like he was
Speaker 3: joking about being in the core Field car park and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, which is, you know, it's good to
Speaker 3: have a laugh. Like the result is what it is. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we'll never know. We'll never know if it was in
Speaker 3: or out. Umpires are going to make their decisions. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the throw one was a throw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we obviously know that was a throw, but.
Speaker 3: It was so crazy that you don't as you're trying
Speaker 3: to compute it, you're like, is that can you do that?
Speaker 2: Stroll it around the goal post and hit it with this?
Speaker 2: I think maybe not.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So that was the third outer bounds line ball call,
Speaker 3: which was cooled stay in, but we obviously we can't
Speaker 3: review it, even though it is a pretty pivotal moment
Speaker 3: in the game. Mate, game was still on the line
Speaker 3: at that stage, and that was pretty much the final
Speaker 3: nail in the coffin. But a line ball out of
Speaker 3: bounds call that we can't even look at it doesn't
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 1: We've had plenty of chatter around our parting decisions in
Speaker 1: this podcast, Brandon, but.
Speaker 2: We'll move on. We'll move on.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of other things that happened in this game.
Speaker 1: It was Spud's game. Got got to give credits to
Speaker 1: this the people I put it together. A credible experience
Speaker 1: to have representatives from every single club there in the circle,
Speaker 1: have the lights go off, have both teams there with
Speaker 1: the umpires and have that there's words be said in
Speaker 1: the middle and the song that was kind of signing.
Speaker 1: It was a cool experience to be out there, very humbling,
Speaker 1: made you really think of the actual day and what
Speaker 1: it was about, especially with everyone around you and just
Speaker 1: that time to really take a breath and you know,
Speaker 1: really kind of us acknowledge, you know, how important it
Speaker 1: is mental health, and it was it was a cool experience.
Speaker 1: It was something like, I look at the different experience
Speaker 1: I've had an AFL you know, your ANZAC days and
Speaker 1: you freeze them in d days and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. It was awesome to be part of that.
Speaker 1: A very unique situation. It was with the whole kind
Speaker 1: of event of the AFL game, but it really kind
Speaker 1: of made you think about it on the day.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but it kind of like.
Speaker 1: Hit me while I was out there in the middle
Speaker 1: of you know, just people you know they've had mental
Speaker 1: health issues and stuff like that, and just kind of
Speaker 1: makes you, I guess, come back to the forefront of
Speaker 1: how important is to make sure you check check in
Speaker 1: on your mates. We've said it on this podcast before.
Speaker 1: If you if you have anyone you think is going
Speaker 1: through a tough time or something like that, just shooting
Speaker 1: a text to them and checking it on really does
Speaker 1: mean a lot. So if you do have that person
Speaker 1: that instantly comes to mind. My advice is a cinema message,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think being out there in the center
Speaker 1: of it just kind of it's awesome to have that
Speaker 1: on a public stance and such a big occasion to
Speaker 1: give credit to.
Speaker 3: It's something cool and special about silence in a stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like it's just the duxtaposition of like it at its
Speaker 3: actual peak of like people screaming and you've just kicked
Speaker 3: the goal, you just won a game, and then just
Speaker 3: compare that to the absolute You can hear a pin
Speaker 3: drop and we'll see it at Anzac Day for example.
Speaker 2: That's just respect.
Speaker 4: It's just amazing. Gives you shivers. I reckon. That's where
Speaker 4: we wrap it up. I reckon. It was pretty good.
Speaker 4: There was a couple of injuries that came out of it.
Speaker 3: Liam Henry high grade hamming. No one like it kind
Speaker 3: of looked like a bit of a tweak. They thought
Speaker 3: it was a tweak on the night and then it
Speaker 3: looks like he's going to be about six to eight.
Speaker 3: We will talk about Mason Wood just because it was
Speaker 3: such a tragic incident, courageous another one of those courageous
Speaker 3: acts that we see out there.
Speaker 4: On the footy field.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately flipped upside down, broke his collar, barn and knocked
Speaker 3: himself out, which was crazy to see, but you know,
Speaker 3: all the professionals out there did a really good job.
Speaker 3: You know, they don't rush these things, make sure he's
Speaker 3: safe and get him off the field.
Speaker 4: Where were you and that all?
Speaker 1: I was next to Ryan Marshall, just there, And it's
Speaker 1: one of those things like you want to like, I think,
Speaker 1: like your instant thing is like I want to help somehow,
Speaker 1: but you know, like going in there is is not
Speaker 1: the right decision because you have so many doctors and
Speaker 1: people who actually qualified.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 1: But it was, yeah, it was. Yeah, it's it's never
Speaker 1: a good thing to see now. It's like it's it's
Speaker 1: part of this game. I understand these things do happen,
Speaker 1: but seeing that to an opposition or team out of
Speaker 1: your own is never easy. Like it's always one of
Speaker 1: those things. It's this harsh, stark reminder of how much
Speaker 1: we put our bodies on the line. And unfortunately for him,
Speaker 1: he kind of came out the bad end of it.
Speaker 1: But you know, hopefully he's all right, you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: he's recovering okay and everything else. But yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: it was one of those moments, especially whenever the game stops.
Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of obviously all attentions on what happened. The
Speaker 1: replay happens again, whoever it is on television, it's it
Speaker 1: is a stark reminder of just how much we put
Speaker 1: ourselves through to be able to entertain the fans and
Speaker 1: everything else. Like, it's not a it's not an easy
Speaker 1: job as much as people think it is. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you know, you go in
Speaker 1: with all the best intentions and trying to try your
Speaker 1: heart out, but sometimes unfortunately it's you come off second.
Speaker 2: Best.
Speaker 3: Prayers up to him, he's actually had we've had him
Speaker 3: in on a podcast in this studio before Ripping bloke,
Speaker 3: and he's he told us that at one point he'd
Speaker 3: had more scans than games played. Wow, so you had
Speaker 3: over one hundred scans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have quite a few fifty, I reckon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of injuries, lots of the guys in
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, a lot of people don't see. And
Speaker 1: it's not mad public for reasons obviously obvious reasons.
Speaker 4: I mentioned that I did my red plane intoor something
Speaker 4: at that time.
Speaker 2: Do you mention your Russia at Taste School.
Speaker 3: Also, I want to We've got to finish on a
Speaker 3: positive because we just went injury injury, injury, So let's
Speaker 3: finish on a positive, and we'll finish on what are
Speaker 3: you looking forward to?
Speaker 4: What's this?
Speaker 3: You'd like to drive this one? What's your I've got
Speaker 3: one this week because normally you go.
Speaker 4: First every week, and I was.
Speaker 3: This was a funny one where it was like I
Speaker 3: did full circle and ended up in a pretty positive spot.
Speaker 4: But I went to get ice cream. So I went
Speaker 4: to Messina. We went to we did.
Speaker 3: We did teppanyaki for my birthday, which was like a
Speaker 3: month ago. Finally got around to do it. I caught
Speaker 3: eight bits of egg back to back to back to
Speaker 3: back to back, stopped throwing my egg. We're gonna run
Speaker 3: out of egg, so at least I got one talent
Speaker 3: and I caught all the bowls one handed. It's got
Speaker 3: about got about ten bowls or eating all these eggs.
Speaker 4: But then I wasn't done.
Speaker 3: I wanted ice cream, so I went and got myself
Speaker 3: a nice big thing of Messina.
Speaker 4: And as I was walking home.
Speaker 3: I saw this girl. She's giving me the eyes. I
Speaker 3: was trying to give her the eyes back.
Speaker 4: But I walked.
Speaker 3: She was on the other side of this pole. So
Speaker 3: I'm holding my ice cream and I'm like trying to
Speaker 3: get around this pole. Anyway, She's looking at me, and
Speaker 3: I'm trying to look around this pole. That probably makes
Speaker 3: it creepy. Anyway, I've got my ice cream and I
Speaker 3: feel something hit. A bird ships on my head as
Speaker 3: I'm trying to look at this girl that's looking at me. Anyway,
Speaker 3: she sees the bird shit on me. Why I'm holding
Speaker 3: the ice cream. But then, for the life of me,
Speaker 3: it was so hard to be upset because I had
Speaker 3: an ice cream, so I was like, oh, well, I
Speaker 3: just rubbed it into the back of my head and
Speaker 3: then just kept going.
Speaker 2: Use it as gel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So then remember bird shits on you, it's good luck.
Speaker 1: And then did she give you her number or what?
Speaker 3: No, why would you give a guy your number that
Speaker 3: you just still got ship on by a bird unless
Speaker 3: you wanted half my ice cream half later, It was
Speaker 3: so hard to be disappointing because I still had the
Speaker 3: ice cream.
Speaker 2: What's your flavor?
Speaker 3: Sold the caramel white serpy? They know me when I
Speaker 3: walk in there, and they say do you want the regular?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, can we just pretend I'm not always
Speaker 3: in here?
Speaker 2: Just do that for me If you taste her, it's
Speaker 2: just to make me feel it.
Speaker 4: How so, what are you after? That's all I want?
Speaker 4: Not the regular? Anyway, I'm sure you did something similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to the F one over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate that I didn't get the call
Speaker 1: up this year, call up this year now unfortunately, so
Speaker 1: I can't get the call up every single year. But
Speaker 1: now I went to the F one epic. The race
Speaker 1: was amazing, it I did. Yeah, I saw some cars
Speaker 1: go back for sure.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: It was awesome. Max.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he went out in the very beginning of it,
Speaker 1: which was great because he was kind of picked to
Speaker 1: automatically when so he became a bit of a competition
Speaker 1: between everyone else. Piastre was third and then Norris. They
Speaker 1: just made a decision to say Oscar dropped back one
Speaker 1: to fall out of the podium and Norris is gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead of Yees. Sorry, that was kind of deflighting obviously,
Speaker 1: you know you want the Australian to get his podium
Speaker 1: in his home country. Yeah, but I understand you did
Speaker 1: the team thing whenever it comes to that stuff. But
Speaker 1: it is bullshita.
Speaker 4: We can say whatever about one.
Speaker 2: Give Zack some fucking feedback to get up one oh man.
Speaker 2: But it was an absolute epic weekend. It was one
Speaker 2: of the best week in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: International people come from all over the world and it's
Speaker 1: just such a vibrant spot. There was four hundred and
Speaker 1: like fifty or sixty thousand people over three days. It
Speaker 1: is an absolute festival and it's a credit to the
Speaker 1: people I put it together. Pretty insane. How much goes
Speaker 1: into it behind the scenes that people don't realize, so
Speaker 1: I will say that. But I do ride my bike
Speaker 1: around there every Saturday, so I'm excited to get my
Speaker 1: bike bike route right, bike route back over there at
Speaker 1: Albert Park.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you didn't decide to go to the Gold
Speaker 3: Coast Western Bulldogs game out in Ballarat that ran at
Speaker 3: the same time.
Speaker 2: Decided not to. I just missed it, Braidon, wouldn't believe
Speaker 2: it if.
Speaker 4: They had it given your free tickets?
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe maybe maybe maybe, But like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: glad to get the bike rout back and you have
Speaker 1: to get back into the lake run.
Speaker 3: That's not good for anyone. That's not good for anyone.
Speaker 3: Let's run this up. We're going an hour, fifteen.
Speaker 2: Or sdays all right now, everyone, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 1: Usually hear the preview, but the preview is going to
Speaker 1: go out later this week for the round that's coming up,
Speaker 1: so make sure you listen out for that. One of
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Speaker 2: So do that now whenever you get a chance.
Speaker 1: And just want to say a massive, massive thank you
Speaker 1: for being a fan of the podcast and listening in.
Speaker 1: But that is it from us of the review of
Speaker 1: round three three.
Speaker 4: You can two slide into the dams.
Speaker 3: If you're that girl, we're gonna end it on that
Speaker 3: ship head over here wants to get it and slide
Speaker 3: in from the dam.
Speaker 2: But thanks everyone for listening. We'll speak to you soon. Peace.