1
00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,360
Speaker 1: And joining me on the line right now is the

2
00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,520
Speaker 1: Minister for Fishing. He's also the Minister for Veterans Affairs

3
00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,920
Speaker 1: and Small Business. Paul Kirby, Good morning.

4
00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,080
Speaker 2: To you morning, Katie. How are you going?

5
00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, really well, minister very keen to talk about the

6
00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,200
Speaker 1: strategy that was announced a little earlier in the week

7
00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,280
Speaker 1: before I get there, though there were some concerns yesterday

8
00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,680
Speaker 1: in Parliament. I know some people feeling a bit let

9
00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,040
Speaker 1: down this morning that the attempt to bring in some

10
00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,240
Speaker 1: new bail laws to Parliament on urgency by the COLP

11
00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,440
Speaker 1: was shut down by Labour's majority. Why not allow this

12
00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,160
Speaker 1: debate to happen, Well.

13
00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,360
Speaker 2: There are specific processes that you have to work through

14
00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,440
Speaker 2: in Parliament and unfortunately we saw the same with the

15
00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920
Speaker 2: fuel bill that was tried that the Opposition tried to

16
00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,519
Speaker 2: bring on probably about a year ago or longer. But

17
00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,760
Speaker 2: you just have to get those processes right. They've got

18
00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,600
Speaker 2: an absolute day dedicated to them. You can introduce a bill,

19
00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,319
Speaker 2: you give notice for cities before with the opposition did.

20
00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000
Speaker 2: You can introduce a bill and there's a process that

21
00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,520
Speaker 2: you have to go through if you want to debate

22
00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,320
Speaker 2: that on urgency.

23
00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,320
Speaker 1: So you're saying that the COLP didn't go through that process.

24
00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,160
Speaker 1: It's right, So what did they get wrong?

25
00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,720
Speaker 2: They tried to introduce, They tried to urgency without actually

26
00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,360
Speaker 2: formally introducing the bill to start with. So that was

27
00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,760
Speaker 2: why it couldn't be debated yesterday. So it is on

28
00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,840
Speaker 2: the list to be debated by the same token. Our

29
00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,640
Speaker 2: Attorney General has already put a large body of work

30
00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,679
Speaker 2: together to bring some recommendations to us about bail reform.

31
00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,600
Speaker 2: We haven't seen.

32
00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,759
Speaker 1: So how long are we going to how long? How

33
00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,680
Speaker 1: long is everybody going to have to wait before this

34
00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,200
Speaker 1: before this debate around bail reform happens.

35
00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,440
Speaker 2: Well, you've got the Attorney General on tomorrow, Kay, there'd

36
00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,200
Speaker 2: be great awesome to ask him and you'll be able

37
00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,040
Speaker 2: to explain exactly the timelines and the process that we're

38
00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,160
Speaker 2: involved in in the moment.

39
00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,279
Speaker 1: Well, we most certainly will. Hey, let's move along, Minister.

40
00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,760
Speaker 1: I know your press for time, and I want to

41
00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,600
Speaker 1: find out a little bit more about the government earlier

42
00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,120
Speaker 1: this week announcing a strategy for veterans aiming to support

43
00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,600
Speaker 1: them and their families with employment, health and well being,

44
00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,800
Speaker 1: as well as recognition. Now the government's also planning to

45
00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,840
Speaker 1: increase employment opportunities for veterans in the public service, committing

46
00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,240
Speaker 1: to recruit a minimum of twenty each financial year. Minister,

47
00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,680
Speaker 1: what sparked this strategy, Well.

48
00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,280
Speaker 2: It's a strategy that we've been working on for quite

49
00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,920
Speaker 2: some time, well before the Royal Commission came to Darwin actually,

50
00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,280
Speaker 2: so we did have to hold it up for a

51
00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,160
Speaker 2: while just to make sure if there was any key

52
00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,840
Speaker 2: commitments from that that we needed to be aware of.

53
00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,160
Speaker 2: There are some federal changes that will come out of

54
00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,680
Speaker 2: the Royal Commission that will take into account obviously, but

55
00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,639
Speaker 2: we just wanted to really highlight two veterans that were

56
00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,040
Speaker 2: absolutely concentrating on their employment. And we know that sometimes

57
00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,639
Speaker 2: setting targets for public sector employment gets your decent results.

58
00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,360
Speaker 2: We know that we live that targets for women on

59
00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,400
Speaker 2: boards and a range of different things as government that

60
00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,280
Speaker 2: have had really really good results, So through the public sector.

61
00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,440
Speaker 2: Outside of the public sector, will do a lot of

62
00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,200
Speaker 2: work with the Chamber of Commerce, with industry skills counsels

63
00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,360
Speaker 2: and capability network industry people as well to try and

64
00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,240
Speaker 2: make sure we have every opportunity to keep these veterans

65
00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,040
Speaker 2: here and also concentrating on respect and recognition for our

66
00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,600
Speaker 2: veterans to have a better awareness of that through the

67
00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,480
Speaker 2: territory and also help and well being. And I want

68
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,880
Speaker 2: to give a shout out to the Mates for MATS

69
00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,959
Speaker 2: team that have opened a wellness center on the Stuart

70
00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,520
Speaker 2: Eyeways very recently and it's already packed that has people

71
00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,679
Speaker 2: in there. They're doing great things.

72
00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,440
Speaker 1: How exactly will the government increase employment opportunities for veterans

73
00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,440
Speaker 1: in the public service and what roles might it include?

74
00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,440
Speaker 2: Well, I guess, as you would understand, there's a massive

75
00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,839
Speaker 2: amount of roles that people do within the defense services

76
00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,120
Speaker 2: that can transport into public sector roles. Whether they're in

77
00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,880
Speaker 2: engineering positions, whether they're in field based positions, whether they're

78
00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:59,119
Speaker 2: in managerial roles, procurement or project management type of roles.

79
00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,520
Speaker 2: There is a massive amount of roles that can transition

80
00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,480
Speaker 2: and that's a big part of what we want to

81
00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,680
Speaker 2: try and do and make sure that it is difficult

82
00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,840
Speaker 2: to get in front of people like obviously, families make

83
00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,960
Speaker 2: their mind up well in advance, and quite regularly we

84
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,640
Speaker 2: don't get the opportunity to speak to people until they're

85
00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,400
Speaker 2: just about to leave the service. And we want to

86
00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,320
Speaker 2: change that. We want to get in front of people earlier,

87
00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,600
Speaker 2: help them and help their families, help them because their

88
00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,080
Speaker 2: partners have got good jobs up here, and quite a

89
00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,040
Speaker 2: lot of the partners have, there might be a capacity

90
00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,479
Speaker 2: to keep that as an angle to keep people in Minister.

91
00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,640
Speaker 1: I know here, I know you are very pressed for time,

92
00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,080
Speaker 1: So I just want to power through a couple of

93
00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,160
Speaker 1: other questions. There's also going to be a review into

94
00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,520
Speaker 1: the NT concession scheme. What does that aim to achieve?

95
00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had difficulty getting definitive data. We've got a

96
00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,479
Speaker 2: bit better data since the census a year or so ago.

97
00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 2: The initial look at our concession scheme is if we

98
00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,119
Speaker 2: offered it right across the board to all of our veterans,

99
00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,479
Speaker 2: difficult to pinpoint, but it's in the tens of millions

100
00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,720
Speaker 2: that that would probably blow out to. So now we've

101
00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,120
Speaker 2: got to try and drill into separating serving from X serving,

102
00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,679
Speaker 2: separating people that have got impairments and that can't work anymore,

103
00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,039
Speaker 2: that have incapacitated, How we get the best opportunities in

104
00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,960
Speaker 2: front of them, and how we can turn that into

105
00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,160
Speaker 2: a definitive ask that I can take the cabinet and

106
00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,920
Speaker 2: say this is how many dollars it's going to cost,

107
00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,120
Speaker 2: and we certainly look forward to doing that body of

108
00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,599
Speaker 2: work and continuing to do it as a range of

109
00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880
Speaker 2: stuff that we do for veterans around grants and other

110
00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,560
Speaker 2: schemes to get access to funding for people to do projects,

111
00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,560
Speaker 2: and we want to continue to work with them going forward.

112
00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,400
Speaker 1: Now on a separate topic under the fishing portfolio, we've

113
00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,840
Speaker 1: been contacted, i should say, by someone who's been injured

114
00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,080
Speaker 1: at the East Arn boat Ramp. I understand repairs and

115
00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,880
Speaker 1: upgrades were promised for the facility about one and a

116
00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,119
Speaker 1: half years ago. Where is it currently at.

117
00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,800
Speaker 2: Well, I know there's some work going down there, and

118
00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,920
Speaker 2: I only got this query a short time ago, so

119
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm happy to double down and get a bit better information.

120
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,279
Speaker 2: But the information that I had come back is that

121
00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,120
Speaker 2: they do take because of the wet season that used

122
00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,640
Speaker 2: to continually do damage to it. There's some pontoons that

123
00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,359
Speaker 2: they removed over the wet season to make sure they

124
00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,599
Speaker 2: don't get smashed the pieces and end up floating around

125
00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,479
Speaker 2: all over the harbor. Now, my understanding was they were

126
00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,520
Speaker 2: to be repaired, they were go replaced, sorry, and they

127
00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,440
Speaker 2: were about to reinstall them last weekend. But I think

128
00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,360
Speaker 2: tides and wind made that unsafe to try and do.

129
00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,240
Speaker 2: So that's my understanding that there is a body of

130
00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,040
Speaker 2: work that's going on there. If there's anything further than

131
00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,520
Speaker 2: that going on, we'll check, because it does with infrastructure

132
00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,839
Speaker 2: and planning, we'll get onto them again.

133
00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most certainly if you could hate really quick

134
00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,920
Speaker 1: one Yinya Guyoula yesterday moved a motion that the Assembly

135
00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,960
Speaker 1: refers to the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee for an

136
00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,839
Speaker 1: inquiry and report back to the Assembly by May. It

137
00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,640
Speaker 1: is a process to review bills introduced into the Parliamentary

138
00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,520
Speaker 1: for their impact on First Nations Territorians. Minister, where is

139
00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,360
Speaker 1: this ash? Is it something that he's obviously introduced? His

140
00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,560
Speaker 1: my understanding, but where are we going to go with this?

141
00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, As I said, Wednesday is the day that

142
00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,560
Speaker 2: oppositions and independents have the capacity to bring bills forward.

143
00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,400
Speaker 2: He has brought that motion board was debated yesterday. There

144
00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,600
Speaker 2: was a big part of our team that spoke to

145
00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,360
Speaker 2: it and spoke for it and spoke in favor of it,

146
00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,080
Speaker 2: of working with mister Guyle or there was not too

147
00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,840
Speaker 2: many other people that spoke about it, which was disappointing

148
00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,240
Speaker 2: because it is such an important matter and it will

149
00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,040
Speaker 2: work its way through through the system now with our

150
00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,880
Speaker 2: and go up to a committee for debate and men.

151
00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,040
Speaker 1: So does it mean we'll have like a local voice

152
00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,200
Speaker 1: and the federal voice.

153
00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,440
Speaker 2: Well, that was initially what was being talked about yesterday

154
00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,000
Speaker 2: in the initial motion. So that will go off to

155
00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,640
Speaker 2: a committee and start to discuss to put some meat

156
00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,800
Speaker 2: around how that might actually translate into legislation and actually

157
00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,840
Speaker 2: physically roll out.

158
00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,720
Speaker 1: Shouldn't it be something that Territorians vote on. Shouldn't it

159
00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,560
Speaker 1: actually be something that Territorians vote on, similarly to what

160
00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,960
Speaker 1: we're doing with the referendum.

161
00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,400
Speaker 2: Well, as we get more information about it, Katie, and

162
00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,600
Speaker 2: it all comes together, there are certainly things that people

163
00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,440
Speaker 2: will have the capacity to speak to their local members about.

164
00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Minister. I know you are very pressed for time.

165
00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,280
Speaker 1: We appreciate you having a chat with us this morning.

166
00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,520
Speaker 1: You'd better get into Parliament.

167
00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Katie, thank you,