1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Andrew Hamilton is in town with his fringe show Shit Bloke. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Can I say you had to say that? I'm I'm 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: allowed to say it. We're all grown us. It makes 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: me feel better. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: It's Friday to Sunday at the Freeo Comedy Factory. Fantastic 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: tickets are through fringeworld dot com dot you Andrew. 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: It's our first time meeting you. Thanks for coming in. 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. Thanks so much for having us to 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: merch you mate. 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Now this is the follow up to your first show, 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: which was called Jokes About the Time I Went to Prison. Yes, 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: and it was a pretty a correct title. 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: Yes, so tell us quickly. 14 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: I've only been doing comedy for two years and I 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: thought I went to Melbourne Comedy Festival last year and 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to have a name for the show because 17 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: no one knows who I was. I was like, I 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: didn't want to have a name like Dafferdil when people 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: are scrolling through five thousand comedy shows. 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: I was like, let's just put the. 21 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: Name of exactly what you're getting, Yeah, yeah, as the 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: name of the show. And so I was on at 23 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: ten forty at night and on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays 24 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 3: at and Comedy Festival. I was the latest show by far, 25 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: so you were scrolling through and like, oh, do you 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: want to go see some guy to about prison? It 27 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: turned out yeah, people did want to wed Yeah, absolutely. 28 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And people are fascinated, and so am I 29 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 4: about the fact that I'm sure not every single minute 30 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: I've never been in. So I've been done a discount 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: at women's prison once, but haven't been in. 32 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: That was weird. 33 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 4: Your stories were interesting, but I take it with the 34 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: way humans are, not every single minute in prison is 35 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: without a laugh. 36 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know. 37 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: Obviously there was some pretty dark, depressing parts, but there 38 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: were some very funny moments that you don't expect, and 39 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: the fact that that was what made it stick out 40 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: more was because it felt like such a place where. 41 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Laughter shouldn't be right. 42 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: And so I remember there was a time where one 43 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: of the prison guards called out for a guy named 44 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: David Wilson, and he's like, David Wilson to the others, 45 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: David Wilson, And then a whole yard full of hard 46 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: and criminals are going doing their best Tom Hanks castaway impression, going. 47 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Wilson, Wilson, I'm sorry Wilson and I'm laughing so hard 48 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: that I forgot where I was, right, I forgot about 49 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: I forgot about. 50 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: The barbee fences and the cameras and the guards, and 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: for a few minutes, I was totally free, and I 52 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: was like, holy crap, that's pretty powerful stuff if that 53 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: can make me forget where I am. And so that 54 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: was kind of one of the main reasons that drove 55 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: me towards comedy, because I was like, if this can 56 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: help people forget about their troubles for a few minutes, 57 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: that seems like a pretty worthwhile use of my time. 58 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: And so I started writing jokes in prison, and when 59 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: I got out, I started performing at open my comedy nights. 60 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, so I mean, obviously people were probably wondering 61 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: why I went to prison. It's good to I try 62 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: and address that early my show because other way people want. 63 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: I know, it's not for murder, No, it didn't meurt 64 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: of any radio hosts. 65 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: No, it was for the commercial supply of psychedelic drugs, 66 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: so magic mainly magic mushrooms which have now which have 67 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: now been legalized in Australia for medicinal use. 68 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: So you know, talk about bad timing for me just 69 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: a few years out a way. One Man's Beef book 70 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: is Another man. 71 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: Right, right, Well, I just a good mud form, not 72 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: the ones that you've seen of Eif Wellington. But but yeah, 73 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: So I was in prison in twenty twenty one in Remand, 74 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: which is like unsentenced prison for everyone doesn't know. And 75 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: then I got bail to my parents place and I 76 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: was under quite strict conditions there and that was when 77 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: I started doing stand ups. So when I originally went 78 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: to open my comedy nights, I had to bring my mum, 79 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 3: who's in her seventies with me because I wasn't allowed 80 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: out of the house unless I was in the company 81 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: of my parents, and so we'd go to these open 82 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: mic comedy nights and so Mum I would have to 83 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: sit through some pretty rough comedy. 84 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but is you know what she called a 85 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: new show pooh bloke or shows you pretty rough, pretty 86 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: open mind? 87 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely she is. 88 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: And I thought that she would hate the idea of 89 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: me getting on stage and doing jokes about my time 90 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: in prison. But my whole family, I think, got that 91 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: it was something that I felt strongly about and wanted 92 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: to express, and so they loved it. I think they 93 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: were just happy for me to do anything other than crimes. 94 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: Scott fully behind it. 95 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: When when you first had this epiphany in prison, let's 96 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: talk about testing out material. 97 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: Was it on you know the other guys? Was it 98 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: on your seally? Was it on? Yeah, that's a question. 99 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: So you try not to. 100 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: You don't want to be a comedian in the yard 101 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: because if a joke goes poorly, you know, it could 102 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: be some pretty serious. 103 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: So I wasn't working the room in the yard, but 104 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: I would have. 105 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: I had cell mates that I typically got along with, 106 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: and so I would test out jokes on them. By 107 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: that stage, I already know that we get along and 108 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: it's a it's a safe crew. 109 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, but yeah, you don't want to be trying 110 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: them in the yard with a complete stranger. What did 111 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: you call me? 112 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 113 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly the funny do you? 114 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: And there somewhere with your etchings, your scratchings of some 115 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: jokes on. 116 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: I wish I could have done that so I could 117 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 3: go back and read visit. Actually, that reminds me something 118 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: cool has happened recently. I did some because of the 119 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 3: stuff I talk about, I've been invited to some pretty 120 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: cool kigs and I performed at a juvenile center just 121 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: before Christmas, and we're in talks at the moment about 122 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: me going into perform in one of Sydney's maximum security prisons, 123 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: hopefully next month. So that'll be pretty cool, just be 124 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: able to go and perform for these guys, because I 125 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: mean a lot of these guys it's a pretty depressing 126 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: place in there that you know, if you can add 127 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: a bit of laughter them and show them that you 128 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: can get out of prison and stop and do something 129 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: else other than crime. Because a lot of the guys 130 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: are in there not for their first time. It becomes 131 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: a big cycle for a lot of these guys. 132 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing I mean, in all seriousness, you 133 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: have so many challenges when you get out of prison 134 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: to try to break that cycle. I can understand why 135 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: so many of them men go back there. 136 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: I was very lucky that I had seventy four your 137 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: experienced family that stuck by me. But there's a lot 138 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: of guys don't have that. And the only people that 139 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: you kind of identify with the other ex cons. When 140 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: you get out and you feel quite isolated, it's very 141 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: easy to fall back into bat. 142 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: And if they get out and they've got nowhere to go, 143 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: and then they're trying to get a job and they've 144 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: got to say, well, that's where I was. So that's 145 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, everything's kind of a bit against them. It's 146 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: it's a tough one. 147 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: There's no guaranteed meals on the outside. Absolutely. 148 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: I mean that's that was something that I noticed, was 149 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: that I found, Yeah, you don't need to worry about 150 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 3: that stuff. 151 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: You've got accommodation and food in prison. I found jailed. 152 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: Obviously it's not everyone's experience, but for me, I found 153 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: jail easy. Real life is hard, and so when you 154 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: get out, you know, that's that's the real struggles. What 155 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: are you going to do with your life? I just 156 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: it's just you sit there and you waist your life away. 157 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: Really but that was the time when I had time 158 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: to reflect on if I could restart my life, what 159 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: would I do differently? And really the answer was stand 160 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: up comedy, and so that's what I've been devoting my 161 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: life to since I've been doing I do about five 162 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: been doing about five gigs a week ever since I 163 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: got out, and it's changed my life. 164 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: So you made the choice not to waste away in 165 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: there just to well, I mean, it's not like you 166 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: were in there that long, not that, but you chose 167 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: to actually take use that time. 168 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: To do something productive and better. 169 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: Actually, the show is shit bloke, as we said, I 170 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: said it again. Yes, you're so naughty, giving too much away. 171 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: What's the show about? 172 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: So the first show was about my time in getting 173 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: arrested and going to prison and decide introduce stand up comedy. 174 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: And this is kind of a follow on show about 175 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: the fact that just because you stop breaking the lord 176 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: doesn't mean you instantly become a good Personah Okay, you 177 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: have to work on yourself, right, Yeah, there's a lot 178 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: of work to that. 179 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: So that's what it's essentially about. 180 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: It's just me just working on all those bits about 181 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: how you become a better person day by day. 182 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: I think about you going in especially you're talking about 183 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: maximum security place or going back in the jail doing 184 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: because the comedy is the way to get you in there. 185 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: But it's more about your message for people, isn't it. 186 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely so they can see, like you say, they could 187 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: see a path path out potentially. 188 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 189 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: I think that that was just my creative outlet to 190 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: talk about what happened to me. 191 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: But there's so many. 192 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: Guys that are locked up, and you see they have 193 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: so much talent, whether it's art or music and these 194 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: kind of things, and I think given the right inspiration 195 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: and opportunity, that could completely change their lives. 196 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: I guess that message would be really important when you're 197 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: doing a show at a detention center, as you said, yes, 198 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: where they're still young enough to really make an impression. 199 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: Well, I mean these are teenage boys. 200 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: So I found that any story I said which went 201 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: longer than a minute, they started his own out, so 202 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: I had to keep it really short and sharp, a 203 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: lot of swear words, so relate suddenly, focusing. 204 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: Was the key. 205 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Well the show is. I think I've said it 206 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: enough times. Thank you. The show is on Friday, Deside 207 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: at the Frio Comedy Factory. Tickets are through fringeworld dot 208 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: com dot are you lovely to meet you? 209 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: Andrew. Thanks so much for having me. It's a lot 210 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: of fun, great story man.