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Speaker 1: And Amanda gem Nation down to.

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Speaker 2: The jonesy demand of arms to the pub test, I

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Speaker 2: don't quite understand relaxing to too true crime. It's not you,

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Speaker 2: but it is a lot of people. Apparently this is

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Speaker 2: the true crime content is the most popular category in

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Speaker 2: all devices and forty five percent of Australians are devoted

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Speaker 2: to the genre, and a lot of them are women.

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Speaker 2: A lot of women are watching, listening reading about true

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Speaker 2: crime just before they go to bed. A psychologist here

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Speaker 2: has said, have a think about why trauma is relaxing you.

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Speaker 2: What does it say about you? Because it can make

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Speaker 2: you frightened in your own home, weary of other people,

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Speaker 2: get your heart rate racing, all those things. Other people

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Speaker 2: say that you know, it's like living vicariously through others,

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Speaker 2: that that's the worst that can happen, and it's not

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Speaker 2: happening to you. And maybe that's the thrill of it.

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Speaker 2: So how do you feel true crime as entertainment? Does

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Speaker 2: it pass the pub testy?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely double. It's not about the crime, it's about the

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Speaker 3: science behind catching the perpetrate and the cops and everyone

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Speaker 3: that investigates it. That's the most interesting bit the crime. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: just the side effect, So no, true crime definitely passes

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Speaker 3: the pup ten As a podcast.

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Speaker 4: They're interesting, but it's the true crime bit that I

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Speaker 4: sort of bork at and go, I don't think it does.

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Speaker 4: I'm against it because I don't think it's as true

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Speaker 4: as we like to think it is.

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Speaker 5: Of course I do. There's nothing better than reading about

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Speaker 5: as straight and true crime and trying to get into

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Speaker 5: the head of the person that's done this crime. I've

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Speaker 5: been enjoying it for probably thirty forty years.

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Speaker 4: As a teacher, I try and connect with as many

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Speaker 4: students as I can in whatever way it takes to

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Speaker 4: make sure.

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Speaker 5: I can educate them. And the young lady in particular

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Speaker 5: was very interested in through crime, and it was the

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Speaker 5: connection I was able to make for her.

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Speaker 4: To have a successful year eleven as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually against it because I've personally been touched by

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Speaker 1: murder and I find it a sort of sickening attachment

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Speaker 1: that society has now to get entertainment out of murders

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Speaker 1: and bedone it because when you're on the other side

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Speaker 1: and you're exposed to it, it's actually a very traumatic experience.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think it past the post test at all.

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Speaker 2: I can see that absolutely. What about true fashion crimes, Well,

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Speaker 2: you've been on the receiving end of some of that

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Speaker 2: criticism yourself. How does it feel