Speaker 1: Hey, I've got a bit of a heavier conversation for
Speaker 1: you guys today, and it's something that I think every parent.
Speaker 1: It would be every parent's worst nightmare to find out
Speaker 1: or to see your child choking on something. And I
Speaker 1: think there would be so many people who've listening to
Speaker 1: this who have maybe had a scare or have had
Speaker 1: that fear happened to them.
Speaker 2: But this story, I mean picture this.
Speaker 1: Imagine walking through a park and seeing a family sitting
Speaker 1: down having a picnic, eating their lunch, and then realizing
Speaker 1: that there's this bit of commotion and there's a little
Speaker 1: baby there. That baby has eaten some sausage and has
Speaker 1: started to choke out in public and.
Speaker 2: Is not breathing. So this interest it's horrifying.
Speaker 1: And I say this because as a mum, I've got
Speaker 1: two kids, I don't think I know what to do.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what to do in that situation, Like genuinely,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I would react. And the normal
Speaker 1: reaction is panic, fear, absolute fear. So right, well, this happened.
Speaker 1: I'm so Nurse Hidi Young, thank god she was there
Speaker 1: at the time and she was the one who saw
Speaker 1: this happening.
Speaker 2: We actually have Hidie on the line. Hi, do you
Speaker 2: welcome to the pick up a Heidi?
Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, nice to meet or can you.
Speaker 1: Just let us know, like what happened that day when
Speaker 1: you were there and that little little child was choking.
Speaker 2: It was a little girl, a little boy, It was
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 1: Girl, a little girl, and what was happening and how
Speaker 1: were you able to step in at that time?
Speaker 3: So we were at a barbecue in a park in
Speaker 3: Sydney with some friends and actually this person was also
Speaker 3: at the same barbecue, but we just didn't know them.
Speaker 3: And just to my left, I could see the mum
Speaker 3: just sort of stood up and started banging the little
Speaker 3: girl on the back quite hard and quite quickly, but
Speaker 3: kind of not with any strategy. And I could see
Speaker 3: the baby was quite young, so I think.
Speaker 4: Aout six months old.
Speaker 3: So I just grabbed her and it looked like she
Speaker 3: had a complete blockage, and I just started straight away
Speaker 3: with the back flaps between the shoulder blades, slightly headed down,
Speaker 3: like the way we do it. And you actually shouldn't
Speaker 3: do it too quick, like you need to give them
Speaker 3: a second in between each one.
Speaker 4: To see if they can bring it up.
Speaker 3: And I did the five.
Speaker 4: That flap, which is what you do. And then I
Speaker 4: was going to turn her over and start the next phase,
Speaker 4: which is horrible, which someone wants to have to do it,
Speaker 4: which is the chest thrust. Just as I want to
Speaker 4: turn her around, she just sort of massive vomit, which
Speaker 4: was great to bring it up, and then she's so screaming.
Speaker 3: You know, people actually.
Speaker 1: Know, Just so people actually know when you're saying like
Speaker 1: we do, the backslabs actually talk us through it, so
Speaker 1: people right now know if that happens, exactly what you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you put the baby over your lap, face down,
Speaker 3: put your hands around their sort of chin as if
Speaker 3: when you're burping, and you on baby sort of support
Speaker 3: their head so slightly face down, letting gravity do its thing.
Speaker 3: Use the heel of your hand between their shoulder blades,
Speaker 3: and you do a really firm.
Speaker 4: Back flow or backflap, and then you stop for.
Speaker 3: A second, turn the head to see if they've brought
Speaker 3: it up, because sometimes they bring up in their mouths.
Speaker 3: If it's not come up, after a few seconds, another
Speaker 3: one turn the head check. Then you do five in
Speaker 3: a row, and after the five, if they've still not
Speaker 3: brought anything up and they're still struggling or they're making
Speaker 3: a noise in their breathing. You turn them over and
Speaker 3: you start the chessu and that's two fingers or one
Speaker 3: hand press short shark between the nipples.
Speaker 4: Down about a third of the depth of the chest, and.
Speaker 3: You again give it a couple of seconds between each
Speaker 3: one to see if they could clear the airway. After
Speaker 3: the first round of backs up from chester, you should
Speaker 3: call the ambulance. Honestly, if there's I would just call
Speaker 3: the ambulance straight away. Yeah, And if at any point
Speaker 3: they fall unconscious because of a complete blockage, you start CPR.
Speaker 1: You started your business after this, so you started the
Speaker 1: next kids CPR and allergy. I can only imagine that an
Speaker 1: experience like that is life changing for everyone who's involved.
Speaker 1: How important do you think it is as parents that
Speaker 1: this is something that we're doing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's super important. It just blows my mind
Speaker 3: that people get. You know, there's so much out there
Speaker 3: to about giving birth, you know, like the build up
Speaker 3: of months and months of education to do you know
Speaker 3: that takes two days if you're unlucky, but you know,
Speaker 3: CPR is something that you'd need ongoing, and there's just
Speaker 3: no like it should be part of the adat or classes.
Speaker 3: I think it should just be as standards because you
Speaker 3: don't need it unless you really need it, and it's
Speaker 3: right on top of you. And all the the first
Speaker 3: DAID certificate courses you know, but the ones that people
Speaker 3: have to have work, none of them are focused on babies.
Speaker 3: I mean I we grew them as well for workplaces,
Speaker 3: and none of them are focused on babies.
Speaker 4: And that's why I.
Speaker 3: Started the baby first dage side of things where it's
Speaker 3: completely baby and child focused.
Speaker 5: I think if you have the time, go and have
Speaker 5: a look at what the next kids, CPR and Allergy
Speaker 5: team are doing. Such a pleasure having you on the show.
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