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Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was, and joining

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Speaker 1: me in the studio this morning. We've got the Attorney

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Speaker 1: General of the Northern Territory, Mary Claire Boothby, Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katy, and listeners.

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Speaker 3: We've got the.

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Speaker 1: Head of news for the Northern Territory News, Gary Shipway,

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Gary. Good morning, and on the

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Speaker 1: line live in Catherine, we have got the Opposition leader,

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Speaker 1: Selena Ubo. Good morning to you, Selena.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Katy. In a very good morning tea listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, before we get started this morning, I do just

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Speaker 1: want to make everybody aware we know the Stuart Highway

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Speaker 1: is still closed. Detectives from the Major Crash Unit are

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Speaker 1: currently investigating a fatal pedestrian strike in Virginia. It happened

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Speaker 1: about four o'clock this morning, police receiving a report that

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Speaker 1: a forty three year old woman had been struck by

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Speaker 1: a car on the Stuart Highway about five hundred meters

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Speaker 1: north of Virginia Road. The vehicle stopped at the scene

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Speaker 1: and the woman was declared deceased upon emergency services arrival. Now,

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Speaker 1: both of those inbound laned lanes of the Stuart Highway

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Speaker 1: have been closed diversions are currently in place, with traffic

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Speaker 1: re entering the highway at Morgan Road. It is expected

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Speaker 1: that those diversions are going to remain in place until midday.

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Speaker 1: So please if you are out and about on the road,

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Speaker 1: take care. If you're able to hold off heading into

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Speaker 1: work or take that alternate route, make sure you are

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Speaker 1: doing so.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: It has been a busy week when it comes to news.

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Speaker 1: You know it's going to be a busy week when

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Speaker 1: there's a federal election held. And I tell you what,

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Speaker 1: well the federal election itself, that election result Labor absolutely

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Speaker 1: smashing the coalition to win in a landslide victory. They

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Speaker 1: took seats from the Liberals and the Greens to win

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Speaker 1: with a majority. Marion Scrimjaw winning on a large majority

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Speaker 1: for the seat of Lingiari as well for Labor now

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Speaker 1: Luke Gosling he had a really close race with the

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Speaker 1: CLP's Lisa Bayless. It's it is looking as though he's

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Speaker 1: going to retain that seat. But some updated numbers from

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Speaker 1: overnight there was apparently a bit of a discrepancy or

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Speaker 1: a bit of a change to the count so as

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Speaker 1: it currently sits now on the two candidate preferred count

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Speaker 1: for Solomon. Lisa Bayless is currently on twenty seven, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen votes, Luke Gosling on twenty eight thousand,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety nine. Now, my understanding is that

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Speaker 1: there is now still quite a large number of postal votes,

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Speaker 1: absentee votes, and I believe they're called declaration votes that

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Speaker 1: are still to come in. So it is still looking

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Luke Gosling is in the lead and

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Speaker 1: is looking like he's going to retain that seat, but

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Speaker 1: this has now changed a little bit in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours and further counting needs to happen.

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Speaker 5: It's a very marginal seat now. I think the difference

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Speaker 5: and I still think Luke will retain that seat. But

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, it's now either way.

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Speaker 5: It's just a marginal seat. And Lisa Baylis did very

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Speaker 5: well in that election. Yeah, we'll see how it plays

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: I think Lisa Baylor's did do very well, and in fact,

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Speaker 2: all of the COLP candidates did, and they were out

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Speaker 2: about what's important to them. And so you know, whilst

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Speaker 2: Labor nationally did win that election, in the territory, we've

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Speaker 2: bucked that trend. You know, we've we've seen a seat

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Speaker 2: nearly be one. I mean, and there's no second prizes

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Speaker 2: and you know, I know that she is very disappointed about,

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Speaker 2: you know, as you said, Katie, the counting is still

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, certainly for Solomon, I mean it was a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, I think probably not much more exciting than

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Speaker 4: of course, as you've mentioned, Solomon a little bit tighter.

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Speaker 4: But we did see some really interesting data around some

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Speaker 4: day at Katie, So I was.

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Speaker 1: Really fascinated when you guys put that statement out earlier

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Speaker 3: I've got to be honest, I had a bit of

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Speaker 1: Because I thought, well, people will find, you know, what

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Speaker 1: The COLP included everybody is the same. But I was

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Speaker 1: a second. It's been a swing against Labor in Solomon,

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Speaker 1: but Labor locally is seeing it as a plus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's around the primary votes that we've looked at initially.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we'll get some more information, Katie as the count continues,

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Speaker 4: as you very much have made listeners aware. But you know,

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Speaker 1: We seem to have lost Selena there for a moment.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we're able to get her back. Are you there

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Speaker 1: with us opposition? Let yep, I've got you again.

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Speaker 4: Oh great, thank you. So this is a really interesting one.

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Speaker 4: So I'm glad that you didn't lose me on this.

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Speaker 4: But when we go to Marie Clair's seat of Brennan

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Speaker 4: and Palmerston, Katie, there's been a change in the primary

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Speaker 4: I guess the most important thing, Katie is I always

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Speaker 4: tell people at the booths and when we're talking in

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Speaker 4: preference system is really important. Obviously, that's the system we

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Speaker 4: even if your number one person doesn't get up, then

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Speaker 4: your vote will still count in that preference. So that's

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Speaker 4: why it's so important that people take their time, they

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying there. In different in different areas,

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Speaker 1: obviously you see a different level of voting or you

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Speaker 3: But I mean, if you.

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Speaker 1: Go on the first preferences again like the seal, PE's

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Speaker 1: in front then and by two thousand votes. So I'm

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Speaker 1: just sort of struggling to see how Labor locally sees

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Katie, just look at the territory election examples

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Speaker 4: as well. There's people in territory Parliament who they're not

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Speaker 3: Very true, very true.

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Speaker 1: We saw that it was it was interesting at the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory election. Look, I do want to continue on

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Speaker 1: with this discussion but I want to take us in

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Speaker 1: a bit of a different direction because just in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours we've seen some really interesting developments.

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Speaker 1: We might talk first about the fact that Jacinta nam

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Speaker 1: Perjimper Price has indeed deflected to the Liberal Party. Now

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Speaker 1: the Australian newspaper is reporting it that a bloody civil

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Speaker 1: war threatens to engulf the federal Liberal Party beyond next

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's vote to replace Peter Dutton after Angus Taylor well

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Speaker 1: orchestrated the high profile defection of Jimper Price from the

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Speaker 1: looking is obviously so Angus Taylor is going to put

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Speaker 1: now deflecting from the Nats across to the Libs to

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Speaker 5: Look, as an outsider who's not went to any political party,

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Speaker 5: I think that look, this is you'll get lots of

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Speaker 5: blood letting going on. Anyone that gets smashed that badly

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Speaker 5: Out of adversity comes opportunity. She's not going to get

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Speaker 5: much a role leadership role within the NATS with the

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Speaker 5: Now with the coalition, there's an opportunity she has leadership aspiration,

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Speaker 5: So I think that's where's where she's gone that way.

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Speaker 1: It's not a push against the CLP in any way,

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Speaker 1: Marie Claire.

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Speaker 2: So I think this is a really important decision for

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Speaker 2: for the locals and now she's doing that in Canberra

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Speaker 2: to support territorians and brought Australia as well to ensure

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Speaker 2: that you know, there's a voice out there for us

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Speaker 2: country liberal party. You know that doesn't change. But when

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Speaker 2: we like the National we don't have a national footprint,

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Speaker 2: so we are aligned with the Liberals and the Nationals,

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Speaker 2: and so by her making that decision a very important

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Speaker 2: one which we fully support, it'll mean that they will

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Speaker 2: do their rebuild after the election, but she will still

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Speaker 2: be a Country Doable Party senator, which is also very

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Speaker 2: important for the Northern territory.

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Speaker 1: First time is it that a Country Liberal Party senator

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Speaker 1: or a Liberal Party federal member has sat with the Liberals.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe did Natasha Greek?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? And Bernie col Gareth did it back that day

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Speaker 5: he switched the Nationals to the Libs. It's not it

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Speaker 5: would have one sitting with the Nats, one sitting with

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Speaker 5: the Libs and traditionally spending with the Nats. Now just

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Speaker 5: seem to decide to jump to the.

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Speaker 1: Lib So, Selena, what do you think of the old switchero.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it's a good move for the

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Speaker 1: Northern territory?

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Speaker 4: Well, Katie, I think just Enterprise should have been upfront

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Speaker 4: with territorians if that was her intention, I know Obviously

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Speaker 4: there's been changes now with the federal election results. But

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Speaker 4: this is exactly why Territorians don't like politicians when they're

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Speaker 4: up for their own personal interests. And that's really all

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Speaker 4: I can see in this move. It is a personal interest.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, Marie Claire talked about just into being

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Speaker 1: And look, it's an interesting I think this in itself

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Speaker 3: So it does go to show you.

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Speaker 1: I suppose when you have an election it is time

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, Selena, what do you.

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Speaker 1: Make of what's happened now within the labor Do you

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Speaker 4: Oh, Katie, Again, their Prime minister has to think about

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Speaker 4: who the best team is to represent his cabinet. Same

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Speaker 4: So it'd be interesting. I'd love to hear what the

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Speaker 5: You know, it is the perfect time to have a

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Speaker 5: can I just say that the outcome where we've got

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Speaker 5: a fantastic result for the territory. It would have been

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Speaker 5: kissed our gas industry goodbye. We've kissed thousands of jobs goodbye.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: A clear outcome.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't it an interesting result when you look at the

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Speaker 5: For I've never heard a more limp wristed excuse for

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Speaker 2: That's just nonsense.

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Speaker 5: That's just a nonsense, aren't Yeah, could not believe when

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Speaker 1: But even and even you know, some of the Teals

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Speaker 2: And I think Candy just going back to the refresh

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Speaker 1: Selena or anybody you want to make their way into

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Speaker 4: Ah, there's some very good people in the Federal Labour team, Katie,

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Speaker 4: And I echo the calls from mariy klab you know

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Speaker 3: Absolutely a bit of a break.

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Speaker 1: There is so much happening, so much for us to

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Speaker 3: Look like for her.

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Speaker 1: The Health Minister Steve Edgington obviously trying his best to

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Speaker 5: This is a serious problem for women. I think you know,

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Speaker 1: And I know that Steve had said yesterday on the show.

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Speaker 1: You know that he's approached the federal government, but the

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Speaker 2: Marrickle, Yeah, Katie, the Northern Territory government absolutely pushed for

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Speaker 2: So my understanding from the Minister for Health is that

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Speaker 1: Really doesn't seem like it's being communicated very well with

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Speaker 3: However, you guys have.

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Speaker 1: Got to pick up the piece right, clean up the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, it is stressful being pregnant at the best

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Speaker 4: And we have amazing maternity stuff right across the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 4: Katie is further pressures on our public health system in

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Speaker 4: relationships with the federal government to make sure we put

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Speaker 4: the pressure on them to support the Northern territory, and

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Speaker 4: that is Steve Edgingson's job as the Health minis.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think in this situation you're spot on. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he said to me yesterday on the show. Thirty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars is what they'd approached the federal government for

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Speaker 1: in terms of upgrades that to the Darwin Royal Darwin

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Speaker 1: Hospital Maternity would and then there was also a smaller

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Speaker 1: figure that had been asked for as well. I mean

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Speaker 1: it had been pointed out to me yesterday and I

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Speaker 1: don't know whether this is an option, but somebody had said, well, Katie,

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Speaker 1: what about the Palmerston Hospital, like you, is the capacity

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Speaker 1: there for some women to be able to go there

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Speaker 1: for their care?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I really do not know what the potential options are,

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Speaker 1: but like has been pointed out, women are seriously worried.

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Speaker 1: We are in a capital city of Australia. You're talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, all everyday families, but defense families as well.

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Speaker 1: Now literally on social media, on these different forums saying

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Speaker 1: to each other they don't want to move to the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory or they want to move into state because

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Speaker 1: they're worried about birthing here.

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Speaker 3: And again I want to point out that.

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Speaker 1: The nurses and midwives at Royal Dalhen Hospital are phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: I had both of my children there. They are phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: But this is about choice and choice that women have

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Speaker 1: paid for.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Katie. I think that you've made a few

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Speaker 2: points there, but one of them was about the people

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Speaker 2: not wanting to come and live in the territory and

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Speaker 2: this is an absolute huge issue, which is why we

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Speaker 2: are so focused on rebuilding the territory and the fact

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Speaker 2: that Healthscope have abandoned the Northern Territory is part of

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Speaker 2: that problem that we have here where we're trying to

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Speaker 2: keep services that are private here in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 2: and they're walking away from us, and so of course

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Speaker 2: that's a huge uphill battle and we're not going to

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Speaker 2: shy away from that. We're at absolutely going to do that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we did try and get health Scope

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Speaker 2: to stay here because we think it's absolutely critical. And

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Speaker 2: now what we're left with is these mothers who are expectant,

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Speaker 2: not sure what to do, and so we have to

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Speaker 2: pick up those pieces now and we have to put

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Speaker 2: together something that is not going to be a private service.

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Speaker 2: Let's be really honest about that, because it's not like

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Speaker 2: we won't have access to the private hospital to do that.

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Speaker 2: So we need to find a way that's some sort

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Speaker 2: of happy medium that allows for those women to feel

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Speaker 2: very cared for and safe. And you know, of course

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Speaker 2: those professionals who work in that space are amazing and

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Speaker 2: they will do everything they can to support the women

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Speaker 2: as well. But you know, we have to find the

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Speaker 2: way that's going to work. And I know the Minister

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Speaker 2: has put forward the plans that are underway, and I

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Speaker 2: think the point about the women not knowing that this

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Speaker 2: was happening, I mean they they were private patients, which

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory GAB didn't have access to those people.

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Speaker 1: The problem now, though, is that what they're saying is

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Speaker 1: that they still don't really know what is next for them.

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Speaker 1: And even yesterday on the show, you know, Steve couldn't

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Speaker 1: say which hotel it was going to be. It sounded

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Speaker 1: like there's still quite a bit of work to get through.

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Speaker 1: If you're six weeks away from having a baby.

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Speaker 2: It's very terrify. It really is, Yes, it is, and

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Speaker 2: it's a terrible, not ideal situation to be in. And

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Speaker 2: I know that everyone that works in the health area,

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Speaker 2: especially around the attorney services, will be working day and

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Speaker 2: night to get this solved for these women. And then

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Speaker 2: of course it's into the future as well. We want

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Speaker 2: to be able to have services here in the territory

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Speaker 2: that can be for everybody. And the money that has

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Speaker 2: been requested from the THREADS that's not just for the

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Speaker 2: that wasn't just for private patients, that's also for public

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Speaker 2: patients because it's needed to be upgraded for a very

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 1: Look we are going to take a really quick break.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 1: It is the week that was in the studio with us.

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Speaker 1: Today we have got Murray Claire Boothby. We've also got

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Speaker 1: Gary Shipway from the NT News and in Catherine we've

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Speaker 1: got Selena Rubo. Now we know that a woman returning

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Speaker 1: from a funeral suffered a serious eye injury after a

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Speaker 1: brick was thrown at the car she was traveling in.

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Speaker 1: Emergency services received reports that the brick had been thrown

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Speaker 1: through a back window of a car traveling on Baggett

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Speaker 1: Road near the community entrance.

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Speaker 3: This was just a little earlier.

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Speaker 1: In the week, not last night, the night before. Four

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Speaker 1: people were in that car, with the injured woman treated

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Speaker 1: by paramedics before being taken to Royal Darwin Hospital. The

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Speaker 1: occupants were family of Linford Fike who were leaving his

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Speaker 1: funeral and wake. Detectives from Serious Crime have indeed confirmed

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Speaker 1: that they've identified and located three children in relation to

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Speaker 1: that rock throwing incident in lud Miller. They were aged eight,

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Speaker 1: nine and eleven. I mean, this is a terrible situation

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Speaker 1: that woman receiving a serious eye injury after what is

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Speaker 1: just absolute like senseless, a senseless, senseless crime and unbelievable

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Speaker 1: really that you're then traveling home from a funeral after

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Speaker 1: what's been such a huge tragedy in your life to

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Speaker 1: then have something like that happen is it's quite unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, Kattie that it is absolutely terrible what's taken place.

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Speaker 5: And the problem is that this is something that happens

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Speaker 5: all too often, not just in that patch. You move

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Speaker 5: along further down the road and now I've got a

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Speaker 5: son that lives in Nightcliffe and he's had the work

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Speaker 5: out a different way to get home because his carsman

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Speaker 5: had rocks thrown and people you know, trying to bang

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Speaker 5: on the windows and try to get into See that's

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Speaker 5: happening to other people who live in that patch. It

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Speaker 5: is the problem that needs to be fixed, and that's

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Speaker 5: a government issue they need to really.

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Speaker 3: Need to sort out.

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Speaker 2: And we're saying this way too often. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think it's absolutely awful what happened after the funeral earlier

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Speaker 2: this week. As I know, the Chief Minister and other

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Speaker 2: members of our team were there at the time, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we know that we have huge problems in

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Speaker 2: the law and not of space two fixed, which is

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Speaker 2: exactly why we make no apologies for all the very

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Speaker 2: strong laws that we have passed already in the first

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Speaker 2: eight months and continue to do. I mean even just

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Speaker 2: last week sitting in Parliament passing those you know, toughest

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Speaker 2: Baale laws in the Northern in Australia, I should say,

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Speaker 2: and we'll keep doing that work because we don't want

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Speaker 2: Territorians to have to change what they do in their

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Speaker 2: life just to feel safe. That's ordinary that that's exactly

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Speaker 2: and we've been doing that for so long and now

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Speaker 2: I do it myself. It's it's and it shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: that way because it's not normal.

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Speaker 1: I mean the point Gary just made that his son's

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Speaker 1: having to choose a different way to get hot, like

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Speaker 1: that's not even unusual for people.

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Speaker 2: At the moment.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're all changing where we shop because you

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Speaker 1: you know, you rock up to the shopping center and

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Speaker 1: you know someone's having things thrown at them or these

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Speaker 1: you know, the security guard trying to stop people from fighting.

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Speaker 1: And Selena I know, and Catherine, you know, it's been

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Speaker 1: terrible there. We had a situation. You had a situation there,

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Speaker 1: not last week. I think it was the week before

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Speaker 1: where a senior woman was noted to the ground allegedly

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Speaker 1: by a teenager. We've since found out she's still in

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Speaker 1: hospital with a fractured hip. I believe as a result

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's just it is beyond deplorable.

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Speaker 4: Behavior, absolutely, Katie. There's senseless acts and there needs to

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Speaker 4: be an approach and whatever the government takes I said

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Speaker 4: in particularly last week, our labor opposition will look to

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Speaker 4: support when it comes to early intervention and prevention. That's

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Speaker 4: what territories are wanting, Katie. We know that there is

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Speaker 4: now some of those big changes around increasing consequences. We've

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Speaker 4: supported that. What we want to see and what we

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Speaker 4: would like to support the government in doing is the

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Speaker 4: focus on early interview prevention because that's where we're going

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Speaker 4: to see the big change, that's where we're going to

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Speaker 4: see a big difference in community safety. And look to

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Speaker 4: support those measures because we know that's what territorians want.

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Speaker 2: And I think Katie, your listeners would know that our

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Speaker 2: government is a government of action and that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: we've been doing for the last eight months. But we

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Speaker 2: can actually do two things at once because we do

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Speaker 2: need to ensure that there are consequences that fit the

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Speaker 2: crime that's happening. But we also can and are working

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Speaker 2: on those root causes of crime, and those are things

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Speaker 2: like that are already happening since you know, we came

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Speaker 2: to government, like the circuit breaker program so that families

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Speaker 2: have that intervention early before they enter the justice system,

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Speaker 2: the school attendance offices, so that truancy is dealt with,

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Speaker 2: and we're already seeing an increase in school attendance because

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Speaker 2: and of course education, Like I.

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Speaker 1: Keep hearing that, but yesterday I was here at work

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Speaker 1: and I looked out the window and there's a group

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Speaker 1: of kids riding on their bikes up the street at

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Speaker 1: ten thirty in the morning. You know, I'm like, how

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Speaker 1: is that happening? If these truancy officers and I don't

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Speaker 1: doubt that there were looking hard to try and get

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Speaker 1: kids to school, but there's still kids that are absolutely

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Speaker 1: falling through the gaps.

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Speaker 2: Now we've had we've had like nearly a decade of

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Speaker 2: kids growing up with no consequences whatsoever and thinking it's okay,

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Speaker 2: they don't have to go to school. In fact, the

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Speaker 2: parents don't even have that responsibility to send them to

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Speaker 2: school and so this whilst all that work is going on,

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Speaker 2: it's not a set and forget. We have to keep

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Speaker 2: working on it. And that's exactly what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Look, unfortunately, what we've seen here with these

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Speaker 1: very young children involved in this crime is not unusual.

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Speaker 1: During this week we were in a situation where detectives

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Speaker 1: have now charged a male with multiple offenses in relation

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Speaker 1: to an indecent assault on six females within the Northern Suburbs.

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Speaker 1: Now it started on the thirtieth of April, or police

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Speaker 1: arrested this youth. It goes back, it goes back even further,

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Speaker 1: so this youth who's under the age of fifteen, in

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Speaker 1: relation to two separate incidents that occurred at a hospital

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Speaker 1: car park in Tewee. Sorry, so that was the most

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Speaker 1: recent one to that though we've had four women I

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Speaker 1: believe it was Gary that were attacked while exercising along

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Speaker 1: the Nightcliff foreshore.

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Speaker 5: And I think the police are a public an explanation

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Speaker 5: on this why they haven't issue any warning because this

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Speaker 5: activity has gone on over quite a period of time.

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Speaker 5: No public warning, so that people are completely unaware that

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Speaker 5: they're in a situation which probably a risk to them.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's not satisfaction for the police didn

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Speaker 5: an issue a warning for them.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair call to make because just

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Speaker 1: looking through these notes. So, at about six point thirty

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Speaker 1: in the morning on the seventeenth of April, police received

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Speaker 1: reports that a male had indecently assaulted a woman who

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Speaker 1: was walking along the foreshore. He fled the scene on

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Speaker 1: foot before police arrival. Now they got a statement and

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Speaker 1: were provided a description of the offender. At that point

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Speaker 1: in time, you would have thought potentially a warning might

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Speaker 1: go out.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Then about eleven o'clock on Tuesday the twenty second, a

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Speaker 1: few days later, police received reports of an indecent assault

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Speaker 1: on a female who was running along the for at

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock in the morning. That victim was able to

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Speaker 1: flee to safety following the assault. Then, at six pm

659
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday the twenty third, the day after, police received

660
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Speaker 1: reports of that a male had grappled with a female

661
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Speaker 1: after indecently assaulting her along the foreshore. Now that victim

662
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: screamed for help and a passing vehicle noticed the struggle

663
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: and immediately stopped to render assistance. Now Then, on the

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth of April, police received reports that whilst a

665
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Speaker 1: female was walking along the foreshore, a male grappled with

666
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Speaker 1: her after appearing from behind. She was able to break

667
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Speaker 1: free and observed that the male was naked at the time. Now,

668
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call that grappling. I would call that an

669
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Speaker 1: outright attack.

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Speaker 5: They went grappling and just choice of words. It went

671
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Speaker 5: down a serious issue.

672
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Speaker 3: That's what it sounds like to me.

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Speaker 2: Those sciences are absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 1: And so why are we in a situation where there's

675
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Speaker 1: no warning that's gone out at any point in time.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is exactly why we've come to parliament urgently

677
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Speaker 2: to change these laws, because we can't have people that's.

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Speaker 3: About a warning.

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Speaker 1: You know, Like I just sort of think, like you'd said, Garry,

680
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: you would think that there's a public safety element here

681
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Speaker 1: where you actually do warn the public that you've got

682
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Speaker 1: this blog who's attacking women while they're out exercising.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I used to think police owe the public and explanation.

684
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: They should have said been warning people and there was

685
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 5: no public warning. Okay, they might say, oh, we were

686
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: going to try to catch him. You're putting people's safety.

687
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Speaker 5: If that's their excuse, you're putting safety at risk ahead

688
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Speaker 5: of your intend to catch this person. That's just crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Selena, what do you make of that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a very least And again we're

691
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Speaker 4: talking about what are the measures that can be supported

692
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Speaker 4: around crime prevention and early intervention. A warning to tell

693
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Speaker 4: people that there is a safety risk. I think that's

694
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Speaker 4: a very simple measure that can be implored. So it'd

695
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Speaker 4: be great to see if that becomes part of the

696
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Speaker 4: conversation from the government. Again, we will support something like that,

697
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Speaker 4: just making sure that that's very clear that community can

698
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Speaker 4: be aware of if there are any dangers or anticipated

699
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: risks in their community around their community and take those

700
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Speaker 4: measures and steps to try and mitigate that. But that

701
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Speaker 4: also then allows the police to do their work. And

702
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Speaker 4: then I heard Murray Claire say the government can do

703
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 4: more than one thing at once. Great, what are those

704
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: other plans? Again, we were stand ready to support whatever

705
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: those prevention measures are and making sure that it's what

706
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: territorians expect, and that's to reduce crime and to have

707
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Speaker 4: community safety improved.

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Speaker 1: Because I do want to say, I mean, well done

709
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Speaker 1: to strike force strident obviously on then apprehending this person.

710
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Now he's been charged. This male youth has been charged

711
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: with four counts of indecent touching or act without consent

712
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: and attempted sexual intercourse without consent. You know, that is

713
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Speaker 1: not a grappling with somebody on the foreshore.

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Speaker 3: That is an outright alleged assault.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got to tell you I would have thought

716
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Speaker 1: and you know, like for me, I will say, I

717
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: let my door to go for a run. Who's fourteen

718
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: years old, and I would expect and think that she

719
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: would be able to go for her run on her own,

720
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Speaker 1: you know, throughout the day and to feel safe. The

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Speaker 1: fact that we now live in a community where that

722
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Speaker 1: is not able to happen is horrifying to everybody. Now

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Speaker 1: I think of you know, I think of her, I

724
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Speaker 1: think of a teenage girl, or I think of a

725
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: younger woman. But then I think, even for myself, I

726
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: go out running off and on my own. I do

727
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: not want to have to worry about somebody rolling me

728
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Speaker 1: and trying to sexually assault you. Nor should any of

729
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Speaker 1: these poor female victims. I feel horrified on their.

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Speaker 2: Behalf exactly, Katie, which is you know, we've been seeing

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Speaker 2: these horrific incidences for way too long and that's exactly

732
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Speaker 2: why we're doing the work we are to ensure that

733
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Speaker 2: when we change those laws last week to make sure

734
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Speaker 2: that bail was the toughest in the country, it was

735
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Speaker 2: all prefaced around community safety. We were enshrining in legislation

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Speaker 2: for our courts and our police to ensure that they

737
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Speaker 2: put community of safety and the risk of reoffending at

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Speaker 2: the top of the list, despite any other types of

739
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Speaker 2: things that could be taken in consideration when it comes

740
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Speaker 2: to offenses and where they're out and about afterwards or not.

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Speaker 2: And so with that enshrining legislation which started Wednesday this week,

742
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Speaker 2: that's what we expect to see that people who are

743
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: committing those crimes are not committing those crimes anymore because

744
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: they are not getting bailed well, and then they dealt

745
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Speaker 2: with in the say.

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Speaker 3: And that's the expectation of the community expectation.

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Speaker 1: But look, I will say, we know that that's going

748
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Speaker 1: to have an impact on our jails. And this week

749
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Speaker 1: a corrections officer who's worked in into prisons for decades

750
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Speaker 1: has lost his eye after being attacked with crutches. The

751
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Speaker 1: United Workers' Union Secretary Erina Early joined me on the

752
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Speaker 1: show yesterday and said The alleged assault happened when the

753
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Speaker 1: officer David, was moving a prisoner into a minimum security area. Now,

754
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: she says the inmate hadn't been properly assessed due to

755
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: train on the system, and she says that she's spoken

756
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Speaker 1: to the officer who had to have his eye removed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is absolutely appalling, and I think that

758
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Speaker 1: we all, you know, we all want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that violent people are not out on the street, but

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Speaker 1: you also want to make sure that violent people are

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Speaker 1: being dealt with in a way that is not going

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Speaker 1: to see a correctional officer injured in this manner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, this is an absolutely horrific incident to happen

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Speaker 4: to somebody who's on the job, who's working hard to

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Speaker 4: you know, behind the wire, to kick territory and safe

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Speaker 4: in the role that they do in corrections every day.

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Speaker 4: But it was just a couple of weeks ago, Katie,

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Speaker 4: that the union spoke up. And whether you like the

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Speaker 4: union or not, you know, they represent the members and

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Speaker 4: those hard working corrections officers. And I think there was

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Speaker 4: an anti news article, Katie, and Gary might correct me

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Speaker 4: if any of the details are in are not straightforward,

773
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Speaker 4: but a corrections officer, who specifically didn't want to be

774
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: named because of worry about speaking up, had said, there

775
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: will be catastrophic consequences for the pressure that is being

776
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: placed on the correction system, on the justice system right now.

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Speaker 4: And it is horrible to hear now that that has

778
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: come true, that that has come to a reality with

779
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: this very very terrible workplace incident. And now we have

780
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Speaker 4: a Territorian who is doing their job and now they

781
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: are with a permanent injury, and I think it is

782
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: quite horrific and I think there needs to be more

783
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Speaker 4: done in this space to listen to those everyday corrections

784
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: officers around what they would like to see the support.

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Speaker 4: There was over fifty corrections officers that came to Parliament

786
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Speaker 4: because the Corrections Minister jured mainly did not want to

787
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Speaker 4: meet with them face to face. Katie. They are calling

788
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: out for the support, they are doing it in the

789
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Speaker 4: best way possible and they are not receiving that support

790
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Speaker 4: or the listening hear from the government. The least that

791
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Speaker 4: the Seal Pee can do is meet with the union,

792
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: meet with the government officials, sorry the corrections officials with

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Speaker 4: their government officials and listen to the stress and the

794
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: strain and the solutions that the corrections officers want the

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Speaker 4: government to implore.

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Speaker 2: Katie, this was a horrific incident and it's absolutely not acceptable.

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Speaker 2: Just going to your point about the classification of that

798
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: particular prisoner, I've had it confirmed that the assessment was

799
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: done and they were in fact a low restricted prisoner,

800
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 2: which clears up whether they were.

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Speaker 1: Quite different from correctional officers within the prison.

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Speaker 2: So they this has come from the Corrections Minister about

803
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: this at his office, who also has been in touch

804
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: with the correction officer who is in the hospital, and

805
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: I think it's tragic and he is speaking with the

806
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: office just to be supported in that space. And of

807
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: course police and Anti Work Safe are looking at a

808
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: whole range of things to do with that incident, because

809
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 2: we need to make sure that the those incidents aren't

810
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Speaker 2: risky in the future. But I also just want to

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Speaker 2: pick up on what Selena was saying in terms of

812
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: like we were the ones in government who brought forward

813
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 2: assaults against workers as a mandatory sentence because we need

814
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Speaker 2: our staff to be safe, especially in the correction space

815
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Speaker 2: or police or any worker for that matter. And Labour

816
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Speaker 2: actually voted that down. They didn't agree that, you know,

817
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Speaker 2: people should be allowed to assault workers, so we are

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Speaker 2: working with Corrections to ensure that they're safe. We are

819
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Speaker 2: now investing more than ever before. It's a huge amount

820
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Speaker 2: we've been making, finding more beds than ever before under

821
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Speaker 2: the master plan. We've got more staff coming in. We've

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Speaker 2: got g fours now because Corrections are the ones that

823
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Speaker 2: told us that they needed more staff, so we found

824
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Speaker 2: them the more staff and we'll keep doing that work

825
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Speaker 2: because we are going to have to make more space

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Speaker 2: for people who break the law, and we will do that.

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Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a really

828
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Speaker 1: quick break. Well, if you've just joined us, you've missed

829
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Speaker 1: out on a very busy hour. In Catherine, we've got

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Speaker 1: the opposition leader, Selena ob Ubo, and in studio of

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Speaker 1: course Gary Shipway and Marie Claire Boothby. Now before we

832
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Speaker 1: wrap up for the morning, we know that the budget,

833
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory budget is set to be handed down

834
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Speaker 1: next week. But some questions being asked about the fact

835
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Speaker 1: that Bill Yan, the Treasurer, is at the Barrel Classic

836
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: despite the fact that the budget's being handed down next week.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is that he is a Marshal at the

838
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Speaker 1: barrel classic some questioning with a now's the appropriate time

839
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Speaker 1: to be doing that when the budget's being handed down?

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Speaker 3: Selena, what do you make of this?

841
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, the budget for the Northern Territory is extremely

842
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: important and I know there's many, many, many, many weeks

843
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 4: of preparation from budget cabinets to the actual announcement of budget.

844
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Speaker 4: And I think it's very disrespectful to for two territories

845
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Speaker 4: for their Treasurer Bill Yan to be out, you know,

846
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 4: reeling in barre instead of really in household costs living

847
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: for territory and so I think, I mean, everyone would

848
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: love to be out fishing, right, but there's a time

849
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: and a place for that, and I think it's blatant

850
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 4: disrespect for an extremely important job that he holds, and

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Speaker 4: particularly next week on Tuesday, when the colp will deliver

852
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 4: their first budget as a government. So I think people

853
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 4: should be very worried if that's what their treasure is

854
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: out and about doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Murray Claire, you said the government can walk

856
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: and chew gum at the same time. Can you fish

857
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: and do your calculations at the same time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think Selena made a point you know,

859
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Speaker 2: these budgets are prepared well in advance of next week

860
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Speaker 2: and on all of that work has been done. In fact,

861
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: we've been making announcements about it, so even all the

862
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: booklets will be printed by now. So the Treasurer, you know,

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Speaker 2: we take lifestyle in the territory. That's one of our

864
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: key things, restoring lifestyles. So I think you know people

865
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: love their fishing. So does the government.

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Speaker 3: Mean that's taking it a big far?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's the patron of that club and so

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Speaker 2: it's very important for him to stay connected with territorians.

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Speaker 2: It's a very short time that he's down there. He

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Speaker 2: will be back and he will deliver an exceptional budget speech.

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Speaker 4: But is he on leave Murray Claire, because I think

872
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: he struggled a bit to articulate if he's actually on

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Speaker 4: leave or not while he's off doing that, or is

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Speaker 4: he officially on duty and sitting out on a boat fishing.

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Speaker 2: I think you well know, Selenda that ministers and MLAs

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Speaker 2: don't actually get leave. So that's a kind of weird

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Speaker 2: question we seven, And.

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Speaker 4: I let me clear it up because as a minister,

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Speaker 4: if you take leave, there is someone else who's responsible

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Speaker 4: for your portfolio, so there would be an acting treasurer.

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Speaker 4: Is he on leave.

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Speaker 2: We've still been speaking with the Treasurer while he's been.

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Speaker 4: Down the night.

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Speaker 2: I was still working with him on the weekend the

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Speaker 2: treasures down there at the Class six. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's embarrassing at all. I think that this is part

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Speaker 2: of the territory lifestyle and our treasure is a fantastic treasurer.

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Speaker 2: He will come out and deliver a great break speech,

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Speaker 2: liver for territoriums.

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Speaker 3: He's been around reporting for a long while.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Yeah, look, the budget's done. All

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Speaker 5: he'd be worrying about now is his speech. I've worked

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Speaker 5: for Treasures and at this particular point of the of

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Speaker 5: the cycle, you're just putting the press packs together, you're

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Speaker 5: putting the lists of people you're going to invite. They're

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Speaker 5: already out. You know, he's done the budget. It's over

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Speaker 5: the budgets.

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Speaker 4: But a big thanks to the Department of Treasury and

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Speaker 4: particularly the Under treasure who will not be sleeping. I

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Speaker 4: can see you this, Katie, keeps it up and tell

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Speaker 4: that that's true. Deliver. They've got no time for fishing. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: though hopefully they get a rent that is true.

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Speaker 5: Look maybe he'll bring a barrow back from that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But look, more than that, I'm really interested to hear

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Speaker 1: what listeners think on this one and whether they do

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Speaker 1: think it's appropriate or not, or whether they think it

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Speaker 1: is a bridge a little bit too far.

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Speaker 3: Like I get the point.

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Speaker 1: You know that you're trying to make their Murray Claire saying, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got to keep our territory lifestyle. And

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Speaker 1: I know that ministers MLAs, no matter what role, you've

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Speaker 1: got opposition leaders like you're literally on twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 1: you know all the time. However, I do wonder whether

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Speaker 1: people think it's taking it a bit too far, you know,

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Speaker 1: marshaling at at the Barough classic when you have a

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Speaker 1: budget to hand down the following week. Let's wait and say,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the text sign will blow up either way,

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Speaker 1: we are going to have to wrap up.

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Speaker 3: We've run out of time.

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Speaker 1: Selena Rubo, the opposition leader, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Katie, and just a big shout out today is

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Speaker 4: do it for so I know lots of people are contributing,

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Speaker 4: wearing their blue, making donations. If you haven't, please get

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Speaker 4: out and support. This is a really really important day

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Speaker 4: for the Northern Territory which is stamping out bullying. And

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Speaker 4: a big thanks to Kate and Tick Everett who started

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Speaker 4: this in memory of their daughter. But wear your blue,

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Speaker 4: make sure you're out supporting. If not, jump online and

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Speaker 4: please support through the donations and buying some merch on

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Speaker 4: the do It for Dolly website.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good advice. Thank you, Selena, and Happy Mother's Day

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Speaker 1: for Sunday. Murray Claire Boothby, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. The Attorney General of the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie. I just wanted to clear up a

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Speaker 2: question one of your listeners had this week about the

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Speaker 2: paternity services. The obstetricians that you have at the private

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Speaker 2: hospital will continue. There's still a one that's taking on

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Speaker 2: new clients or patients as well, and so they will

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Speaker 2: still work with you from their suites and obviously go

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Speaker 2: to the public hospital, which is a normal thing that

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Speaker 2: happens now. Anyway, I just wanted to make that really

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Speaker 2: clear because obviously Mother's Loves Quite and I were quite

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Speaker 2: concerned about that, and I wanted to assure them that

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Speaker 2: private arrangement is that's how it will continue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you Mary Clear and happy Mother's stay to

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Speaker 1: you for Sunday. And Gary Shipway, head of news at

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Speaker 1: the NT News, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Can I just give a shout out to Today we

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Speaker 5: announced the antin News Woman of the Year Award and

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Speaker 5: I want to give a shout out to all the finalists,

953
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Speaker 5: some wonderful finals there and all those people, all the

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Speaker 5: women that were nominated. So hope you have a great

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Speaker 5: day down at the casino lunch today.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm wonderful women, there is no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: Good timing as well, of.

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Speaker 3: Course, yes, yeah, fantastics all.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, no wonderful initiative. Thank you Gary. Great to

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Speaker 1: have you all in the studio.