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Speaker 1: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: all right, guys. It's Liz Ellis, who we all know
Speaker 1: is a retired Australian netball player. She was a member
Speaker 1: of the national team from nineteen ninety two until two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. And captain for the last four of
Speaker 1: those years. She's the most capped international player for Australian
Speaker 1: netball and has been a fantastic commentator and broadcaster of
Speaker 1: sport on Australia ever since. Liz reluctantly entered the Jungle
Speaker 1: after a pep talk from her teenage daughter, and while
Speaker 1: she wasn't a favorite at the start of the competition,
Speaker 1: the popularity seemed to grow and grow as people fell
Speaker 1: in love with her easygoing nature.
Speaker 2: I will ask.
Speaker 1: Liz about Kerry Anne Kennelly and find out if she's
Speaker 1: been in touch since her win, and if Liz actually
Speaker 1: thinks the cat should have stuck around. We will find
Speaker 1: out about those food trials and if they're as bad
Speaker 1: as they look on television, and what toll they actually
Speaker 1: take on your body post trial. We will discuss how
Speaker 1: doctor Chris Brown celebrated the final episode and who Liz
Speaker 1: thinks could replace him next year from this season's cast. Plus,
Speaker 1: we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of our favorite show, I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out
Speaker 1: of Here, which wrapped up on Network ten last night,
Speaker 1: but you can still catch up on on ten Play
Speaker 1: if you fell behind. Anyway, let's bring Liz into the podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to be chatting to her, let me
Speaker 1: tell you, and I really hope that you guys also
Speaker 1: enjoy this episode.
Speaker 2: Hi Liz, how are.
Speaker 3: You exhausted but elate? How are you well?
Speaker 1: I'm just so excited to be talking to you because,
Speaker 1: you know, throughout this season, I think, like the rest
Speaker 1: of Australia, we just fell in love with you more
Speaker 1: and more as the show went on, and I think
Speaker 1: it must feel strange you've now overtaken Pepper from home
Speaker 1: and away as their most loved mother in the country.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I think my kids might
Speaker 3: argue that with you. Did you see them try and
Speaker 3: bloody electrocute me?
Speaker 1: One of the producers had to have given them five
Speaker 1: dollars or you know, some lollies from the Lolli jar
Speaker 1: and said do your worst.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think my kids electrocute me for free.
Speaker 3: So AnyWho, but.
Speaker 2: Do you think the show would change the way that
Speaker 2: your children look at you?
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been seeing them now out of the
Speaker 1: jungle for the last you know, twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: Are they are they thinking Mom's a bit cool?
Speaker 3: Oh, look, I think they think I'm cool because they've
Speaker 3: had a holiday to South Africa and they got and
Speaker 3: they've got a new favorite uncle who is Uncle Nathan
Speaker 3: from Geordie Shaw, and I think he's probably not the
Speaker 3: lord from my children that I want, But yeah, I
Speaker 3: think they think it's pretty cool. I think they got
Speaker 3: a bit of love at school, you know, when I
Speaker 3: first sat on the show so and then the opportunity
Speaker 3: for them to just come here and they've been doing
Speaker 3: game drives with my husband and having a brilliant time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if I'm if I'm quite
Speaker 3: cool yet, but I'm hopefully I'm on my way.
Speaker 1: Test it out when you get home and just be like,
Speaker 1: make your bed, do your homework, and see if they
Speaker 1: do them all pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to actually wear the cram when I
Speaker 3: tell them to do their homework and make their bed
Speaker 3: and tidy up, so you know, I'll say, Queen Elizabeth
Speaker 3: is telling you.
Speaker 1: Do it, or you could just say, guess what's for dinner? Guys,
Speaker 1: we've got elephants, testicles or whatever it is. Wrong.
Speaker 3: I've like given them a bit of that accident. See
Speaker 3: how that pans out.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think when they asked you to do
Speaker 1: this show that you would become Queen of the Jungle?
Speaker 3: No? Well, actually, when I first got asked to do
Speaker 3: the show, I just said, nat flat out, I'm not
Speaker 3: doing it. It's I don't it's it's not interesting for me.
Speaker 3: And then I got send a show real and I thought, actually,
Speaker 3: this could be cool. But I made the mistake of
Speaker 3: watching it with my eleven year old daughter and she
Speaker 3: was pumped. She was like, Mum, you have to do this.
Speaker 3: It looks like very much fun. We had a long
Speaker 3: chat about it, and she sort of asked me why
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do it, and I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I just I just don't think I need the judgment.
Speaker 3: And you know, I worry about what other people will change.
Speaker 3: She's like, you know, you always tell us not to
Speaker 3: worry about what other people say, and you know, to
Speaker 3: do what makes us happy. And I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: that's the worst thing when you teach your children things
Speaker 3: and they throw it back in your face and make
Speaker 3: me go and live in the jungle for a us.
Speaker 3: So you know, my little my little girl gave me
Speaker 3: the push and I thought, you know, I should do it.
Speaker 3: I should take a risk. So just turned fifty and
Speaker 3: just we had just got back from trip around Australia
Speaker 3: in our caravan as a family, and I thought, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's time for me to take a few risks with
Speaker 3: my career and just to see where we end up.
Speaker 1: What's it a preparation can you do for a show
Speaker 1: like this? I mean, what's the time frame from being
Speaker 1: asked to be on the show and then going into
Speaker 1: the jungle, and then did you utilize that into trying
Speaker 1: to do an differently with your body or with your mentality?
Speaker 1: Like what sort of preparation and how long did you
Speaker 1: have to do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a lot of prep you can do,
Speaker 3: but I found I sort of said yes at the
Speaker 3: end of January and then I had to leave at
Speaker 3: the end of March, so you have about two months.
Speaker 3: In that time. You've got to do lots of psych
Speaker 3: tests and just to make sure that you're in the
Speaker 3: right mind frame to go into the jungle, medical tests
Speaker 3: and all that sort of thing. And then in terms
Speaker 3: of just preparation, I actually just cut out alcohol, sugar,
Speaker 3: caffeine about a month before I went in, so just
Speaker 3: because I didn't want to be in the jungle with urals, Yeah,
Speaker 3: with withdrawals, while I was also hungry and deprived of food. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm bad enough and I'm hungry. I really don't need
Speaker 3: hungry being made worse by caffeine addiction withdrawals. So actually,
Speaker 3: just I've got some advice from some people who had
Speaker 3: had a bit to do with the show, when they
Speaker 3: just said, just go off that stuff before you get
Speaker 3: into the jungles, so you don't have any cravings. And
Speaker 3: then I just sort of did some meditation and just
Speaker 3: made sure that if I needed to go to my
Speaker 3: happy place, yeah, which had turned out when I was
Speaker 3: eating eyeballs, I had to get to that happy place
Speaker 3: just that I could go there.
Speaker 1: And you know, I just picture you, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, when you're normally cooking some eggsy and boiling
Speaker 1: an eggle or putting it on you do the water
Speaker 1: test where you make sure that they haven't you know,
Speaker 1: haven't expired, and then just being like, well, if they've expired,
Speaker 1: I guess that's just really good preparation for eating some parendousns.
Speaker 2: In South Africa. So no water test, let's just do it.
Speaker 3: Oh No, you know, I actually didn't do any preparation
Speaker 3: like that, and I just thought, I've got a pretty
Speaker 3: strong stomach. Whatever that throled me, I'll just eat it.
Speaker 2: Has this show changed you? I mean, could you feel
Speaker 2: that through the experience.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know you've only been out of there
Speaker 1: for less than twenty four hours, but do you think
Speaker 1: this has changed the way that you will be and
Speaker 1: the Liz ellis that we know in the media.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it'll change I guess the
Speaker 3: way I am in the media. But I really wanted
Speaker 3: to show, I guess, the silly side of me because
Speaker 3: in my career I've always been broadcasting netball and talking
Speaker 3: about sport and you know, try and be a bit
Speaker 3: of a serious analyst. But just so, I don't really
Speaker 3: get to show the silly, naughty side of me very often,
Speaker 3: so I sort of wanted to show that I might
Speaker 3: and I might keep it around as long as my
Speaker 3: mum puts up with me being naughty and rude on television.
Speaker 3: She wasn't happy with some of the.
Speaker 1: Things I said the anties and end up on Georgie's
Speaker 1: World of Nathan, like, you know, the guy's got let
Speaker 1: it anyway.
Speaker 3: But it actually I had lots of time to just
Speaker 3: you know, no distractions. I didn't have to make dinner
Speaker 3: for the kids, I didn't have to pack school lunches,
Speaker 3: I didn't have to help my husband with the farm.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a phone that was distracted me, and
Speaker 3: I could just think about things. And I actually just
Speaker 3: had to learn to let the control freaks out of
Speaker 3: me go and just to let it ride and learn
Speaker 3: to just roll with whatever got thrown at us. But
Speaker 3: actually I want it. That's a thing that I want
Speaker 3: to take with me. It's just to be a bit
Speaker 3: more relaxed about stuff, you know, let Matthew and the
Speaker 3: kids run their own show a bit without trying to
Speaker 3: organize them, and just just learn to let go and
Speaker 3: not feel that I have to be in control of
Speaker 3: every situation.
Speaker 1: There's nothing better than putting a pin in the control
Speaker 1: freak that we all have inside of us.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, well, and you don't have much choice
Speaker 3: in the jungle because you really are at the mercy
Speaker 3: of You can't of the producers and what they want
Speaker 3: you to do. You know, you can't even wear a
Speaker 3: watch him. So none of us knew the time. You
Speaker 3: didn't know how much food you were going to get
Speaker 3: every night. You didn't know what trials you were going
Speaker 3: to do, what was going to be trying to eat,
Speaker 3: So you do really do have to learn to let
Speaker 3: it go. And it was a really good lesson for
Speaker 3: me to learn.
Speaker 2: Did Dicker have a crush on you? This is what
Speaker 2: I thought?
Speaker 1: And I've spoken about this to a few people, and
Speaker 1: the older the audience member that I spoke to, the
Speaker 1: more common that they said, Yes, that man has definitely
Speaker 1: developed a man crush. What do you think Do you
Speaker 1: think Dicko has crushed on you a little bit?
Speaker 3: I don't know if he crushed on me, but hey,
Speaker 3: and I he was someone who I really enjoyed getting
Speaker 3: to know because I had this really cartoon character vision
Speaker 3: of him from his days on Idol. And what with Dicko,
Speaker 3: you get this brash for the English, cocky record like
Speaker 3: music producer and music executives. But when you start to
Speaker 3: peel the layers off, he's like, and you know, you
Speaker 3: peel the layers off, and you cry, and you feel
Speaker 3: some more layers off, and you cry, and you eventually
Speaker 3: get to this deep thinking, lovely man who adores his family,
Speaker 3: He adores his wife and children, and loves music, has
Speaker 3: know so many people and have done so many things,
Speaker 3: but he's still on for a chat. So yeah, he
Speaker 3: and I really developed just a really nice friendship throughout
Speaker 3: our time in the jungle. So I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's if it's a crush, but the feeling between us
Speaker 3: is mutual. I really enjoyed my time getting to know Ditay.
Speaker 1: Well, he had a massive impact. I mean you had
Speaker 1: a massive impact on him. Who for you like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that you developed that amazing relationship. But it's
Speaker 1: why people are saying it is the best castle we've
Speaker 1: ever seen in the jungle. But if you were to
Speaker 1: just narrow it down to one or two people who've
Speaker 1: had a lasting impact on you, oh do you know lots.
Speaker 3: Of people and it's really hard to narrow it down
Speaker 3: to one or two because well, we had so much fun. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that we you know, to go into the
Speaker 3: jungle with someone like Pete Hellier, who I've known for
Speaker 3: twenty years but never had long in depth conversation with him,
Speaker 3: it was just amazing to be able to do that.
Speaker 3: I loved getting to know deb Lawrence, so her and
Speaker 3: I had lots of chats, you know, with the two
Speaker 3: Silverhead women in camp and we sort of, you know,
Speaker 3: looked out for each other a bit when we're both
Speaker 3: feeling low at different times. So that was amazing. And then,
Speaker 3: speaking of amazing, I love getting to know Asia, and
Speaker 3: you know, she's such a funny, naughty, big hearted woman,
Speaker 3: and you know, to spend the last three days with
Speaker 3: her and Harry was just such a delight and such
Speaker 3: a privilege. And you know, Harry is someone who I
Speaker 3: feel really privileged to have got to know, and he's
Speaker 3: just such a beautiful, brilliant young man. So you know,
Speaker 3: to watch the younger members of the cast and see
Speaker 3: where they end up and what their careers do is
Speaker 3: going to be really exciting for me over the next
Speaker 3: few years.
Speaker 1: I had the privilege of having Asia on this very
Speaker 1: podcast just before she did the Jungle. Obviously, she couldn't
Speaker 1: say anything, and nor did I even think of her
Speaker 1: as doing the show, and all the way, I watched
Speaker 1: a lot of her seasons which I'd never seen before
Speaker 1: of Below Deck, and I saw this amazing person.
Speaker 2: I was like wow.
Speaker 1: But I noticed when I got her on the podcast
Speaker 1: that her voice had just this big, louder than life,
Speaker 1: you know, sound to it, and she sounded like that,
Speaker 1: you know, before the chat, so she was not putting
Speaker 1: it on. And then when you listen to the audiences
Speaker 1: watching the show this year, they're like, oh, you know
Speaker 1: her voice. You know she's putting that on. It's a
Speaker 1: bit of a character. But that truly is her, isn't it.
Speaker 3: That is her. She's at twenty four seven, and you know,
Speaker 3: you can't go into the jungle and be on camera
Speaker 3: twenty four seven for thirty one days and put on
Speaker 3: an act. It it just doesn't last. It just won't happen.
Speaker 3: So you actually have to be yourself. And that was
Speaker 3: the best advice that I got. And Asha, what you
Speaker 3: see is what you get, whether the camera's on or not.
Speaker 3: That is her. And you know, speaking to her partner Scott,
Speaker 3: he's like, sometimes it's exhausting that my time's it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: That sounds like my partner.
Speaker 1: My partner's like, you know what, he is a lot
Speaker 1: of fun, you know, but you know after a while
Speaker 1: it's like here we go, put a pin in.
Speaker 3: Helen's exhausting. She's so much fun and that really is
Speaker 3: her and I love her for that because she has
Speaker 3: no filter, no embarrassment about her like an embarrassed She'll
Speaker 3: tell the most horrific story about something that she's done. Here.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you're telling people that. She just laughs. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: she's beautiful. It's so rare to find someone like her.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming everybody from the show has messaged you to
Speaker 1: say congratulations. Have you heard from Carrie Hank Kettling? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I have, And you know, she's someone who I really
Speaker 3: respect and we've had a long friendship and you know,
Speaker 3: hopefully we can catch up and have a laugh about
Speaker 3: everything that went down. But you know, she's someone who
Speaker 3: she's a giant of the television industry. She's television royalty,
Speaker 3: and I still have a great amount of respect for her,
Speaker 3: and we had some lovely chats while she was in
Speaker 3: the jungle. So yeah, I think you know what happened
Speaker 3: is I wasn't in the room. I wasn't there, so
Speaker 3: I just heard about it secondhand when everyone sort of
Speaker 3: got back to camp. And it is what it is.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'll still catch up with Tack whenever
Speaker 3: I can, and at some point we'll have a round
Speaker 3: of golf and wine and a laugh.
Speaker 1: Well do you think, because you said in the finale
Speaker 1: last night that you know everyone found the first few
Speaker 1: days hard. Do you think that maybe pack had missed
Speaker 1: out on what became the sweet spot of the season, Like,
Speaker 1: do you think that maybe she left in that original
Speaker 1: distressed body state where it's like, hang on a second,
Speaker 1: this is too much and I'm assuming you all thought that,
Speaker 1: but then allowed to slip into that sweet spot. Do
Speaker 1: you think if she'd given it a day or two
Speaker 1: that maybe it would have been different?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's different for every person, and
Speaker 3: it's hard to sort of make a judgment on what
Speaker 3: different people think and how they feel and how they're
Speaker 3: going to work through things. So she made the decision
Speaker 3: that she felt was right for her, and you know,
Speaker 3: whether that whether things would have changed or not, I
Speaker 3: don't know. It's really hard to speculate. But I hope
Speaker 3: she can look back on her time at the show
Speaker 3: with some fondness and you know understand that she's still
Speaker 3: loved and admired by lots of people.
Speaker 1: Well, it's one way to get them to stop calling
Speaker 1: you every year to usk to do the show. Just
Speaker 1: go and do two days. You know, I loved your honesty,
Speaker 1: and I think that has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: you winning. I think that you embracing you know, the
Speaker 1: what did you call it last night?
Speaker 2: A silver fox?
Speaker 3: No, what're yeah? The silver fox. I like to refer
Speaker 3: to myself as that, just rather than gray headed old ladies.
Speaker 1: Do you think that winning shows women in their fifties
Speaker 1: that age is just a number and that they can
Speaker 1: do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh gosh, absolutely. And you know, I wanted to
Speaker 3: get out there and show my kids what I could do,
Speaker 3: because they actually never saw me playing netball. I have
Speaker 3: my kids after I finished my netball career, but I
Speaker 3: sort of wanted to show that, you know, women in
Speaker 3: their fifties can still be strong and physical and can
Speaker 3: still face their fears and get through things and be
Speaker 3: valuable members of a team. And I haven't been in
Speaker 3: a team for fifteen years, so that was one of
Speaker 3: the motivators for me. I wanted to get back out
Speaker 3: there and experience that camaraderie in the sense of fun,
Speaker 3: but to show what I could do, and hopefully there's
Speaker 3: lots of women out there who go, yeah, absolutely, I'm
Speaker 3: in my fifties or my sixties and I can do this.
Speaker 3: And you know, part of that for me about embracing
Speaker 3: my age has just been to look the way I'm
Speaker 3: supposed to look, and that means I've grown my hair out.
Speaker 3: I don't diet anymore. I saved three hundred bucks in
Speaker 3: half a day every month. So it's actually a really
Speaker 3: nice place to be in to not have to dye
Speaker 3: my hair. So yeah, hopefully there's lots of other people
Speaker 3: out there who go, yeah, I'm going to embrace it
Speaker 3: and I'm going to go gray, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: grow I just gracefully.
Speaker 1: Which I really appreciate. And what about these food challenges?
Speaker 1: They were absolutely disgusting, Like I had to stop myself
Speaker 1: from using any swear words when talking about these disgusting
Speaker 1: food challenges.
Speaker 2: My God.
Speaker 1: The one thing that always stays in my mind after
Speaker 1: a season, I keep thinking about the food challenges. How
Speaker 1: long does it take for your body to process what
Speaker 1: you've done to it? I mean, you've eaten something really
Speaker 1: nasty in a food challenge. Does it have a lasting
Speaker 1: impact because it's not what you should be eating?
Speaker 3: Oh? The first food challenge I did, I just felt
Speaker 3: terrible and we earned enough. We earned the full compliment
Speaker 3: of stars that night, and everyone was enjoying their really
Speaker 3: big meals, and I was like, oh, I think I
Speaker 3: just have a half serve tanks because no guts were
Speaker 3: just churning. But then the next day I felt fine.
Speaker 3: But the second food challenge, where we had to drink
Speaker 3: all that revolt I had. My first drink was a
Speaker 3: combination of fish guts in the century eggs, and then
Speaker 3: I had to eat chips made of rat, and then
Speaker 3: we had to drink that putred fermented fish's disgusting discussing.
Speaker 3: But because it wasn't a lot of chewing gross things,
Speaker 3: my guts felt fine when I got back to camp
Speaker 3: that night. But the next day I really struggled. So
Speaker 3: each food challenge had sort of a different impact. But
Speaker 3: then a few days later you've done it. It's done.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's all food. You look at it and
Speaker 3: you go, it's gross. But I know they're not going
Speaker 3: to poison me. I know that everything's cooked and everything,
Speaker 3: you know, fit for human consumption. You just have to
Speaker 3: get over the mental hurdle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think any of it's going to be
Speaker 1: in a boost juice anytime soon, you know.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I can't imagine, you know,
Speaker 3: I've all boost juice is going to go down.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll have the Lizellis please. Yeah, I think they'd
Speaker 1: have some some blowbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What were the celebrations for Doctor Chris Brown's final episode
Speaker 1: last night? Because yes, you got to celebrate your win,
Speaker 1: but he also would have been celebrating an amazing tenure
Speaker 1: on the show. Can you give me an insight into
Speaker 1: what the celebrations were like last night? For him?
Speaker 3: It was pretty emotional just after the show, and you know,
Speaker 3: it was really sad because everyone was emotional and at
Speaker 3: the end of an era. So but then a little
Speaker 3: bit later everyone was sort of you know, there was
Speaker 3: a rap party and I didn't go to that party
Speaker 3: because I had to do media, So I can't really
Speaker 3: give you any insight into what went on. You'll have
Speaker 3: to speak to someone who was there.
Speaker 2: I probably ended up reading about it in the bags,
Speaker 2: So I wait.
Speaker 3: Someone I supposed to be, but it's not going to
Speaker 3: be me.
Speaker 1: He wanted to keep the acknowledgments of his time and
Speaker 1: winning the show to a celebration that happened in the
Speaker 1: episode prior when we had the double When do you
Speaker 1: hear something like that?
Speaker 2: Does that? How does that? How does that land?
Speaker 1: With you, because I thought that's a pretty impressive thing
Speaker 1: for him to say, be like, you know, of course
Speaker 1: we want to send me off in a celebration, but
Speaker 1: let's make sure that the win has their time to shine.
Speaker 2: You might not know if he is. Did you know that?
Speaker 3: I knew it. I didn't see I haven't seen that
Speaker 3: Thursday night episode, but I spoke to Chris when we
Speaker 3: did the trial with our families and someone had said
Speaker 3: that he had said a few words that night, and
Speaker 3: I said, why don't you say why don't you do
Speaker 3: it on Sunday? And he was like, because Sunday should
Speaker 3: be all about you guys, And I thought, wow, that's
Speaker 3: so selfless. And that's why he's so well loved and
Speaker 3: admired because he didn't make it about him. And you know,
Speaker 3: he couldn't controlled that to a degree. To a degree,
Speaker 3: it was always going to be about him, but he
Speaker 3: was really keen to make Sunday about us, and Thursday
Speaker 3: was the right time for him to do it. And
Speaker 3: I just think that says an awful lot about someone
Speaker 3: when they're so selfless, when they're not thinking about how
Speaker 3: they can draw attention to themselves, and you know, get
Speaker 3: the next headlines. I think that it just shows, you know,
Speaker 3: how much integrity he has.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's someone from your season of the
Speaker 1: show that could replace him and try and fill those shoes?
Speaker 3: Oh, look, my seven year old son's pretty keen. I
Speaker 3: just yeah, and really like Julia's jokes would go over
Speaker 3: his head literally and figuratively. So look, I'll get my
Speaker 3: management team to throw him into the mix and we'll
Speaker 3: see where it was.
Speaker 1: The one thing I didn't see coming. I've heard people say,
Speaker 1: you know, Bob Erwin. You know, I've heard a few
Speaker 1: you know names thrown around. Then Robert Owen, but maybe
Speaker 1: Robert Owen and your son could do it together. I
Speaker 1: meant that'll be in a different demographic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Austin Stotts, he's big in the seven
Speaker 3: year old category. You know.
Speaker 1: Do you think with all of these shock exits throughout
Speaker 1: the season that you know, we saw that people voted
Speaker 1: because they fell in love with these celebrities and how
Speaker 1: they behaved in the jungle, not necessarily who they are
Speaker 1: in the media.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, And I think that's the whole
Speaker 3: point of the show, because how you behave in the
Speaker 3: jungle really is your true self, and the whole way
Speaker 3: through I thought, I'm just going to be myself, to
Speaker 3: act with honesty and integrity and to have fun, and
Speaker 3: hopefully people fell in love with all of us as
Speaker 3: we did that. You know, I look at someone like
Speaker 3: Adam Kearney, who, you know, speaking to his wife last
Speaker 3: she said she's seen him cry once. His kids have
Speaker 3: never seen him cry. And then he comes on to
Speaker 3: the show and he becomes this beautiful, vulnerable man who
Speaker 3: just adores his family and misses them terribly, and you
Speaker 3: can't help it fall in love with that and with
Speaker 3: people who open their hearts and let you in. And
Speaker 3: I think just about everyone on the show did that.
Speaker 3: So you know, we all fell in love with each other,
Speaker 3: and hopefully Australia fell in love with with my camp
Speaker 3: mates because they're all just magnificent humans.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that the hierarchy changes sometimes throughout this show.
Speaker 1: So when it first started, was there ever a conversation
Speaker 1: about who you all thought would win this show? Because
Speaker 1: I mean it certainly changed for the audience watching it
Speaker 1: that everyone was like, oh, well, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that Peter Hally is going to win this show.
Speaker 2: And you know, here's a big star.
Speaker 3: You know, we actually never talked about it, isn't that funny.
Speaker 3: We all had our ideas of who would win, but
Speaker 3: we've never ever talked about it. It's so weird. It's
Speaker 3: a bit like a taboo subject.
Speaker 1: Okay, really quickly, because every single podcast, this is two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one ends with this so very quickly.
Speaker 1: Is there anything from behind the scenes that we didn't
Speaker 1: see that we would love to know as a bit
Speaker 1: of the magic of what it's like to be on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: Oh look, I don't know if they showed it, but
Speaker 3: the badger, Nick Commons, when he came in, built a
Speaker 3: rock bass down at the creek, and so most of
Speaker 3: us stopped showering and just and bathed in this little
Speaker 3: rock pool every day. That was pretty fun and pretty amazing,
Speaker 3: and we all just got nude, not together, just like separately.
Speaker 1: That'll be on the deleted scenes. Liz, congratulations. I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with you, as is the rest of Australia. You well
Speaker 1: and truly deserved that win. I can't wait to be
Speaker 1: in your audience to see what you do with this
Speaker 1: extra boost of celebrity.
Speaker 2: Good luck with it all.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much. Ben