WEBVTT - Liz Ellis - I'M A CELEBRITY - TV Personality 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.840 TV Reload, the podcast Past Deep. They welcome back TV 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.520 Reload listeners. My name is Benjamin Norris and this is 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.079 your podcast to get all the inside goss on the 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:14.160 popular TV shows you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.040 our TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.840 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.279 shows get made. So I've been looking for guests that 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:24.319 want to dive just that little bit deeper into the 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.000 shows they are currently making or filming, so that you 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.840 can hear all their exclusive stories and gain access to 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.239 the biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.319 you for downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.800 found it. I love hearing your feedback, so make sure 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:40.920 you leave a review or a comment on your chosen 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.640 podcast platform. This chat, I'm joined by the winner of 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.919 I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out of Here. Yes, that's 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.440 all right, guys. It's Liz Ellis, who we all know 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.479 is a retired Australian netball player. She was a member 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.360 of the national team from nineteen ninety two until two 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.120 thousand and seven. And captain for the last four of 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:02.160 those years. She's the most capped international player for Australian 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.560 netball and has been a fantastic commentator and broadcaster of 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.319 sport on Australia ever since. Liz reluctantly entered the Jungle 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.160 after a pep talk from her teenage daughter, and while 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.760 she wasn't a favorite at the start of the competition, 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.679 the popularity seemed to grow and grow as people fell 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.480 in love with her easygoing nature. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:20.640 I will ask. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.200 Liz about Kerry Anne Kennelly and find out if she's 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.160 been in touch since her win, and if Liz actually 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.800 thinks the cat should have stuck around. We will find 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.360 out about those food trials and if they're as bad 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.240 as they look on television, and what toll they actually 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.160 take on your body post trial. We will discuss how 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.559 doctor Chris Brown celebrated the final episode and who Liz 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.360 thinks could replace him next year from this season's cast. Plus, 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.839 we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.080 of our favorite show, I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.840 of Here, which wrapped up on Network ten last night, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.320 but you can still catch up on on ten Play 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.280 if you fell behind. Anyway, let's bring Liz into the podcast. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.320 I'm very excited to be chatting to her, let me 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.480 tell you, and I really hope that you guys also 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:03.640 enjoy this episode. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:05.200 Hi Liz, how are. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:09.200 You exhausted but elate? How are you well? 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.520 I'm just so excited to be talking to you because, 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.679 you know, throughout this season, I think, like the rest 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.840 of Australia, we just fell in love with you more 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.480 and more as the show went on, and I think 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.040 it must feel strange you've now overtaken Pepper from home 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.200 and away as their most loved mother in the country. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.520 I don't know about that. I think my kids might 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.360 argue that with you. Did you see them try and 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:30.520 bloody electrocute me? 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.600 One of the producers had to have given them five 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.800 dollars or you know, some lollies from the Lolli jar 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:35.960 and said do your worst. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.760 I don't know. I think my kids electrocute me for free. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.120 So AnyWho, but. 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.280 Do you think the show would change the way that 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.320 your children look at you? 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.239 I mean, you've been seeing them now out of the 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.240 jungle for the last you know, twenty four hours. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.239 Are they are they thinking Mom's a bit cool? 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.440 Oh, look, I think they think I'm cool because they've 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.960 had a holiday to South Africa and they got and 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.400 they've got a new favorite uncle who is Uncle Nathan 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.800 from Geordie Shaw, and I think he's probably not the 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.000 lord from my children that I want, But yeah, I 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.840 think they think it's pretty cool. I think they got 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:06.600 a bit of love at school, you know, when I 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.520 first sat on the show so and then the opportunity 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.320 for them to just come here and they've been doing 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.680 game drives with my husband and having a brilliant time. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.640 So yeah, I don't know if I'm if I'm quite 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.040 cool yet, but I'm hopefully I'm on my way. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:21.960 Test it out when you get home and just be like, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.799 make your bed, do your homework, and see if they 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:25.799 do them all pretty quickly. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.560 Well, I'm going to actually wear the cram when I 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.600 tell them to do their homework and make their bed 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.359 and tidy up, so you know, I'll say, Queen Elizabeth 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:33.280 is telling you. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.360 Do it, or you could just say, guess what's for dinner? Guys, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.440 we've got elephants, testicles or whatever it is. Wrong. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:42.880 I've like given them a bit of that accident. See 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:43.760 how that pans out. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.280 Did you ever think when they asked you to do 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.560 this show that you would become Queen of the Jungle? 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:50.920 No? Well, actually, when I first got asked to do 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.200 the show, I just said, nat flat out, I'm not 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.120 doing it. It's I don't it's it's not interesting for me. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.000 And then I got send a show real and I thought, actually, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.480 this could be cool. But I made the mistake of 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.720 watching it with my eleven year old daughter and she 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.720 was pumped. She was like, Mum, you have to do this. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.880 It looks like very much fun. We had a long 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.800 chat about it, and she sort of asked me why 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:14.120 I didn't want to do it, and I said, oh, 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.440 I just I just don't think I need the judgment. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.960 And you know, I worry about what other people will change. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.120 She's like, you know, you always tell us not to 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.359 worry about what other people say, and you know, to 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.080 do what makes us happy. And I thought, you know, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.920 that's the worst thing when you teach your children things 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.440 and they throw it back in your face and make 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.080 me go and live in the jungle for a us. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.080 So you know, my little my little girl gave me 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.520 the push and I thought, you know, I should do it. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.600 I should take a risk. So just turned fifty and 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.760 just we had just got back from trip around Australia 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.040 in our caravan as a family, and I thought, yeah, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.760 it's time for me to take a few risks with 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.840 my career and just to see where we end up. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.159 What's it a preparation can you do for a show 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.760 like this? I mean, what's the time frame from being 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.560 asked to be on the show and then going into 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.279 the jungle, and then did you utilize that into trying 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.680 to do an differently with your body or with your mentality? 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:04.719 Like what sort of preparation and how long did you 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:05.320 have to do that? 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.520 Yeah, there's not a lot of prep you can do, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.320 but I found I sort of said yes at the 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.640 end of January and then I had to leave at 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.400 the end of March, so you have about two months. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.880 In that time. You've got to do lots of psych 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.320 tests and just to make sure that you're in the 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.120 right mind frame to go into the jungle, medical tests 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.719 and all that sort of thing. And then in terms 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.600 of just preparation, I actually just cut out alcohol, sugar, 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.279 caffeine about a month before I went in, so just 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.960 because I didn't want to be in the jungle with urals, Yeah, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.120 with withdrawals, while I was also hungry and deprived of food. Like, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.960 I'm bad enough and I'm hungry. I really don't need 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:46.880 hungry being made worse by caffeine addiction withdrawals. So actually, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.560 just I've got some advice from some people who had 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:50.920 had a bit to do with the show, when they 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:52.680 just said, just go off that stuff before you get 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.960 into the jungles, so you don't have any cravings. And 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.600 then I just sort of did some meditation and just 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.919 made sure that if I needed to go to my 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.880 happy place, yeah, which had turned out when I was 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.039 eating eyeballs, I had to get to that happy place 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:06.200 just that I could go there. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.159 And you know, I just picture you, you know, like 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.119 you know, when you're normally cooking some eggsy and boiling 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.560 an eggle or putting it on you do the water 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.240 test where you make sure that they haven't you know, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.360 haven't expired, and then just being like, well, if they've expired, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.359 I guess that's just really good preparation for eating some parendousns. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.920 In South Africa. So no water test, let's just do it. 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.719 Oh No, you know, I actually didn't do any preparation 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.840 like that, and I just thought, I've got a pretty 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.279 strong stomach. Whatever that throled me, I'll just eat it. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.400 Has this show changed you? I mean, could you feel 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:33.279 that through the experience. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:34.920 I mean, we know you've only been out of there 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.560 for less than twenty four hours, but do you think 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.160 this has changed the way that you will be and 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.880 the Liz ellis that we know in the media. 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.039 Yeah, I don't know if it'll change I guess the 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.760 way I am in the media. But I really wanted 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.080 to show, I guess, the silly side of me because 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.320 in my career I've always been broadcasting netball and talking 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.200 about sport and you know, try and be a bit 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.599 of a serious analyst. But just so, I don't really 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.800 get to show the silly, naughty side of me very often, 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.840 so I sort of wanted to show that I might 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.480 and I might keep it around as long as my 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.880 mum puts up with me being naughty and rude on television. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:05.120 She wasn't happy with some of the. 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.440 Things I said the anties and end up on Georgie's 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.600 World of Nathan, like, you know, the guy's got let 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:11.600 it anyway. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.320 But it actually I had lots of time to just 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.600 you know, no distractions. I didn't have to make dinner 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.600 for the kids, I didn't have to pack school lunches, 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.720 I didn't have to help my husband with the farm. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.960 I didn't have a phone that was distracted me, and 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.040 I could just think about things. And I actually just 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.880 had to learn to let the control freaks out of 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.920 me go and just to let it ride and learn 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.800 to just roll with whatever got thrown at us. But 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.840 actually I want it. That's a thing that I want 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.640 to take with me. It's just to be a bit 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.160 more relaxed about stuff, you know, let Matthew and the 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.560 kids run their own show a bit without trying to 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.400 organize them, and just just learn to let go and 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.320 not feel that I have to be in control of 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:47.120 every situation. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.360 There's nothing better than putting a pin in the control 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.760 freak that we all have inside of us. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.880 You know. Yeah, well, and you don't have much choice 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.440 in the jungle because you really are at the mercy 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.920 of You can't of the producers and what they want 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.440 you to do. You know, you can't even wear a 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.320 watch him. So none of us knew the time. You 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.480 didn't know how much food you were going to get 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.080 every night. You didn't know what trials you were going 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.600 to do, what was going to be trying to eat, 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.480 So you do really do have to learn to let 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.200 it go. And it was a really good lesson for 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:16.720 me to learn. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.560 Did Dicker have a crush on you? This is what 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:20.080 I thought? 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.720 And I've spoken about this to a few people, and 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.600 the older the audience member that I spoke to, the 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.000 more common that they said, Yes, that man has definitely 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.160 developed a man crush. What do you think Do you 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:31.960 think Dicko has crushed on you a little bit? 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:33.480 I don't know if he crushed on me, but hey, 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.439 and I he was someone who I really enjoyed getting 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.439 to know because I had this really cartoon character vision 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.120 of him from his days on Idol. And what with Dicko, 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:49.480 you get this brash for the English, cocky record like 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.920 music producer and music executives. But when you start to 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.320 peel the layers off, he's like, and you know, you 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.160 peel the layers off, and you cry, and you feel 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.880 some more layers off, and you cry, and you eventually 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:06.200 get to this deep thinking, lovely man who adores his family, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:11.880 He adores his wife and children, and loves music, has 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.240 know so many people and have done so many things, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.880 but he's still on for a chat. So yeah, he 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.760 and I really developed just a really nice friendship throughout 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.240 our time in the jungle. So I don't know if 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.960 it's if it's a crush, but the feeling between us 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.680 is mutual. I really enjoyed my time getting to know Ditay. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.520 Well, he had a massive impact. I mean you had 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.760 a massive impact on him. Who for you like, I mean, 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.240 I know that you developed that amazing relationship. But it's 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.600 why people are saying it is the best castle we've 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.040 ever seen in the jungle. But if you were to 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.679 just narrow it down to one or two people who've 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.200 had a lasting impact on you, oh do you know lots. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.880 Of people and it's really hard to narrow it down 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:52.640 to one or two because well, we had so much fun. Yeah, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.000 I know that we you know, to go into the 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.720 jungle with someone like Pete Hellier, who I've known for 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:02.160 twenty years but never had long in depth conversation with him, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.760 it was just amazing to be able to do that. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.400 I loved getting to know deb Lawrence, so her and 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.640 I had lots of chats, you know, with the two 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.840 Silverhead women in camp and we sort of, you know, 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.120 looked out for each other a bit when we're both 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.240 feeling low at different times. So that was amazing. And then, 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.959 speaking of amazing, I love getting to know Asia, and 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.679 you know, she's such a funny, naughty, big hearted woman, 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.880 and you know, to spend the last three days with 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.240 her and Harry was just such a delight and such 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.000 a privilege. And you know, Harry is someone who I 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.400 feel really privileged to have got to know, and he's 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.960 just such a beautiful, brilliant young man. So you know, 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.199 to watch the younger members of the cast and see 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.320 where they end up and what their careers do is 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.600 going to be really exciting for me over the next 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:50.280 few years. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.840 I had the privilege of having Asia on this very 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.600 podcast just before she did the Jungle. Obviously, she couldn't 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.520 say anything, and nor did I even think of her 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.120 as doing the show, and all the way, I watched 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.560 a lot of her seasons which I'd never seen before 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.120 of Below Deck, and I saw this amazing person. 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:06.720 I was like wow. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.280 But I noticed when I got her on the podcast 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.800 that her voice had just this big, louder than life, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.520 you know, sound to it, and she sounded like that, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.640 you know, before the chat, so she was not putting 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.719 it on. And then when you listen to the audiences 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.520 watching the show this year, they're like, oh, you know 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.640 her voice. You know she's putting that on. It's a 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.360 bit of a character. But that truly is her, isn't it. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.880 That is her. She's at twenty four seven, and you know, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.880 you can't go into the jungle and be on camera 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.320 twenty four seven for thirty one days and put on 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.400 an act. It it just doesn't last. It just won't happen. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.880 So you actually have to be yourself. And that was 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.880 the best advice that I got. And Asha, what you 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.160 see is what you get, whether the camera's on or not. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.840 That is her. And you know, speaking to her partner Scott, 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.200 he's like, sometimes it's exhausting that my time's it's fantastic. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:53.880 That sounds like my partner. 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.080 My partner's like, you know what, he is a lot 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.320 of fun, you know, but you know after a while 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.920 it's like here we go, put a pin in. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.800 Helen's exhausting. She's so much fun and that really is 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.160 her and I love her for that because she has 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.160 no filter, no embarrassment about her like an embarrassed She'll 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.120 tell the most horrific story about something that she's done. Here. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.480 I can't believe you're telling people that. She just laughs. So, yeah, 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.160 she's beautiful. It's so rare to find someone like her. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.680 I'm assuming everybody from the show has messaged you to 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:28.680 say congratulations. Have you heard from Carrie Hank Kettling? Yeah? 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.160 I have, And you know, she's someone who I really 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.040 respect and we've had a long friendship and you know, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.280 hopefully we can catch up and have a laugh about 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.160 everything that went down. But you know, she's someone who 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.520 she's a giant of the television industry. She's television royalty, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.400 and I still have a great amount of respect for her, 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.320 and we had some lovely chats while she was in 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.200 the jungle. So yeah, I think you know what happened 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.439 is I wasn't in the room. I wasn't there, so 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.839 I just heard about it secondhand when everyone sort of 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.120 got back to camp. And it is what it is. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.000 And you know, I'll still catch up with Tack whenever 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:03.720 I can, and at some point we'll have a round 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.160 of golf and wine and a laugh. 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.360 Well do you think, because you said in the finale 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.800 last night that you know everyone found the first few 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.720 days hard. Do you think that maybe pack had missed 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.520 out on what became the sweet spot of the season, Like, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.680 do you think that maybe she left in that original 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.520 distressed body state where it's like, hang on a second, 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.640 this is too much and I'm assuming you all thought that, 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.120 but then allowed to slip into that sweet spot. Do 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.760 you think if she'd given it a day or two 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:28.840 that maybe it would have been different? 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.360 Yeah, I don't know. It's different for every person, and 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.440 it's hard to sort of make a judgment on what 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.800 different people think and how they feel and how they're 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.439 going to work through things. So she made the decision 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.319 that she felt was right for her, and you know, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.360 whether that whether things would have changed or not, I 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.960 don't know. It's really hard to speculate. But I hope 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.600 she can look back on her time at the show 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.079 with some fondness and you know understand that she's still 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.600 loved and admired by lots of people. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.160 Well, it's one way to get them to stop calling 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.280 you every year to usk to do the show. Just 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.000 go and do two days. You know, I loved your honesty, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.320 and I think that has a lot to do with 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.760 you winning. I think that you embracing you know, the 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:09.560 what did you call it last night? 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.280 A silver fox? 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.440 No, what're yeah? The silver fox. I like to refer 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.120 to myself as that, just rather than gray headed old ladies. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.440 Do you think that winning shows women in their fifties 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.640 that age is just a number and that they can 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:22.200 do anything. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.600 Yeah, oh gosh, absolutely. And you know, I wanted to 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.360 get out there and show my kids what I could do, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.480 because they actually never saw me playing netball. I have 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.320 my kids after I finished my netball career, but I 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.160 sort of wanted to show that, you know, women in 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.120 their fifties can still be strong and physical and can 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.920 still face their fears and get through things and be 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.800 valuable members of a team. And I haven't been in 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:44.600 a team for fifteen years, so that was one of 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.560 the motivators for me. I wanted to get back out 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.120 there and experience that camaraderie in the sense of fun, 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.800 but to show what I could do, and hopefully there's 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.960 lots of women out there who go, yeah, absolutely, I'm 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.040 in my fifties or my sixties and I can do this. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.560 And you know, part of that for me about embracing 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.840 my age has just been to look the way I'm 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.720 supposed to look, and that means I've grown my hair out. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.080 I don't diet anymore. I saved three hundred bucks in 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.240 half a day every month. So it's actually a really 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.560 nice place to be in to not have to dye 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.120 my hair. So yeah, hopefully there's lots of other people 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.440 out there who go, yeah, I'm going to embrace it 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.000 and I'm going to go gray, and I'm going to 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:22.960 grow I just gracefully. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.720 Which I really appreciate. And what about these food challenges? 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.280 They were absolutely disgusting, Like I had to stop myself 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.000 from using any swear words when talking about these disgusting 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:31.960 food challenges. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:32.360 My God. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.440 The one thing that always stays in my mind after 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.400 a season, I keep thinking about the food challenges. How 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.160 long does it take for your body to process what 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.040 you've done to it? I mean, you've eaten something really 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.400 nasty in a food challenge. Does it have a lasting 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.680 impact because it's not what you should be eating? 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.680 Oh? The first food challenge I did, I just felt 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.120 terrible and we earned enough. We earned the full compliment 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.160 of stars that night, and everyone was enjoying their really 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.200 big meals, and I was like, oh, I think I 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.600 just have a half serve tanks because no guts were 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.360 just churning. But then the next day I felt fine. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.720 But the second food challenge, where we had to drink 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.680 all that revolt I had. My first drink was a 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.000 combination of fish guts in the century eggs, and then 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.360 I had to eat chips made of rat, and then 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:20.680 we had to drink that putred fermented fish's disgusting discussing. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.800 But because it wasn't a lot of chewing gross things, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.960 my guts felt fine when I got back to camp 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.760 that night. But the next day I really struggled. So 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.800 each food challenge had sort of a different impact. But 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.120 then a few days later you've done it. It's done. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.240 I mean, it's all food. You look at it and 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.160 you go, it's gross. But I know they're not going 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.720 to poison me. I know that everything's cooked and everything, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.680 you know, fit for human consumption. You just have to 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:46.920 get over the mental hurdle. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:48.600 Yeah, I don't think any of it's going to be 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.680 in a boost juice anytime soon, you know. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.920 No, I don't think so. I can't imagine, you know, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.800 I've all boost juice is going to go down. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.040