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Speaker 1: Look, sticking with this topic of the administrator, we did

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Speaker 1: Cattle Australia. Now. He well, he wanted to give us

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Speaker 1: his perspective of working closely for several years with David Connolly.

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Speaker 1: And I've got to tell you I don't know a

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Speaker 1: latch about David, so I'm pleased to say that Will

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Speaker 2: Get a Will good o, Katie, thanks for having me

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Speaker 2: back on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to have you on the show. Now, well,

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Speaker 1: what's your experience with working with David Connolly?

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Speaker 2: Oh, look, I was very lucky. I've worked with David

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Speaker 2: for three years at the NTCA in Pride to that

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Speaker 2: when I was the CEO of the Live Exporters, David

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Speaker 2: was a member of the organization as well, so I

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Speaker 2: had a lot of interactions with him then. And look,

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Speaker 2: David's someone a really high integrity. He's someone who works

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Speaker 2: incredibly hard and in my experience of him taking our

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Speaker 2: leadership roles, he's someone who really steps up to the plate.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I hope people aren't judging too much

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Speaker 2: by the media that's been out there, and they give

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Speaker 2: David the opportunity to really step up, and I know

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Speaker 2: he's going to do an absolutely terrific job.

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction though, when seeing those posts when

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Speaker 1: they were made public and people sort of, you know,

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Speaker 1: seeing these social media posts and some people being quite

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Speaker 1: offended by them.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, lookt For me personally, I never I don't

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Speaker 2: have any social media and I don't really pay attention

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Speaker 2: to it. I understand other people do, look, and that's

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Speaker 2: their prerogative. And I think people got a lot of

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Speaker 2: I reached out this morning just because I thought there's

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Speaker 2: another side of David that needed to be put out there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, in my experience of working closely with him,

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Speaker 2: he's a truly remarkable man and I know he's going

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Speaker 2: to do a brilliant job.

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Speaker 1: We now have indigenous leaders saying that they won't work

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Speaker 1: was your experience when working with him and indigenous territories.

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Speaker 2: Look, I know David's got a large number of personal

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Speaker 2: relationships with Indigenous people, and I mean, how that affects

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Speaker 2: I really don't know that it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: David work with Condigenous people. I've seen him, do you know,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's been a positive relationship. I think

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to have the ability to

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Speaker 1: unite all Territorians. I mean, we've got about thirty percent

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Speaker 1: of our population is Indigenous, and you know we've then

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to have the ability to

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do, I really do. I think David's one

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Speaker 2: of those unique personalities where when he sees the challeng

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Speaker 2: he steps up. He leads with a lot of compassion,

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Speaker 2: he leads with a lot of you know, integrity. He's

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Speaker 2: got a strong head about him, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 2: and when he sets his mind to something, he goes

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Speaker 2: after it. But I think the opportunity David's gotten the

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Speaker 2: opportunity everyone's got is to really see him. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think in the territory sometimes we get a little

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Speaker 2: someone who's comes from an industry and comes from a

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Speaker 2: place we're doing, is the most important thing and talking

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Speaker 1: Well, what does his appointment mean from your perspective for

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Speaker 1: Because I'll be really honest, I don't know a lot

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Speaker 1: do you think it's going to mean for your sector?

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Speaker 1: And you know, for all of the Northern territory.

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Speaker 2: Look, I won't talk on behalf my sector and necessarily,

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Speaker 2: but I'll talk on behalf of myself and the people

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Speaker 2: I know. And you know, for us, it was just

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Speaker 2: it was a real honor to have someone like David

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Speaker 2: Be identified as as someone for these sorts of position

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Speaker 2: just means a lot. It meant a lot to me personally.

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Speaker 2: I know it means a lot to a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: And look, I know it didn't get off on necessarily

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Speaker 2: up and he's going to do I'm just know one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent sure he's going to do a brilliant job. Well.

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Speaker 1: Will Evans, the head of Cattle Australia and former head

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Speaker 1: of Cattleman's Inte. I really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much for having a chat with us, and

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Speaker 1: I guess sort of just giving us a bit of

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Speaker 1: background on David Connolly. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 2: Nice. Thanks for having me on clio. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: the opportunity