1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Already and this is this is the Daily OS. Oh, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Monday, 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: the fifth of May. I'm Zara Seidler. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: I am Belly FitzSimons. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: It's official Labor has won the federal election in what 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: can only be described as a landslide victory. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: And it is with a deep sense of humility and 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: a profound sense of responsibility that the first thing that 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: I do tonight is to say thank you to the 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: people of Australia for the chance to continue to serve 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: the best nation on earth. 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 4: Earlier on I called the Prime Minister to congratulate him 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: on his success tonight. Now, we didn't do well enough 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: during this campaign. That much is obvious tonight, and I 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: accept for responsibility for that. 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: It was a histoicick win, with Anthony Alberanezi becoming the 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: first Prime Minister since John Howard in two thousand and 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: four to win two elections in a row. Not only 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: did the Labor Party win, but they increased the majority 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: with which they will now govern in Australia. Today we're 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: breaking down exactly what happened on Saturday and what do 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: will mean for the country moving. 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Forward, Zara, we were just saying whether or not people 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: predicted this. I feel like the polling they did predict 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: a Labor majority government, but not like this. This was 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: a complete landslide. 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: I mean, shout out to you, gov, because the day 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: before the election they published their last polling or their 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: last predictions, and it was like pretty much exactly this. 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: But yes, widely we were hearing and reading about a majority, 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: perhaps not the vast majority that Labor will now govern with. 33 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: So do you want to just take us through by 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: how much did Labor actually win this election? 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: By a lot? Is the short answer so at this stage, 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: and it's important to recognize that counting continues as we speak, 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: so I will just preface it by saying this could change. 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: But right now, Labor has won at least eighty five 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: seats in the House of Representatives. That's according to the ABC. 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: As we've spoken about many times on this podcast before, 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: any party needs seventy six to govern with a majority, 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: and so not only has Labor got to that seventy six, 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: but they have well and truly exceeded that number. At 44 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: the last election, just for context, Labor picked up seventy 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: seven seats so they've increased from seventy seven to at 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: least eighty five, with potentially more on the way. 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least in my lifetime. I don't remember anything 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: like this happening before, with Labour winning by such a landside. 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: The only thing I can compare it to is when 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Rudd won in two thousand and seven. But I 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: don't know if that will resonate with listeners. I mean, 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: I don't remember it, but I remember hearing about it 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: for so many years after because it was such a 54 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: decisive victory for Kevin Rudd. But his government won by 55 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: eighty three seats. So Anthony Albanezi and the Labor Party 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: has actually won by even more than Kevin rudwan when 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: he did it with that very famous slogan. Yeah. 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 2: And I think what's interesting here is that I don't 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: know if we've spoken about it on the pod, but 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: in the days leading up to a federal election, or 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: any election really, a lot of traditional newspapers will publish 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: their kind of editorials, their endorsements for which candidate they 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: believe should win. And what I found remarkable about the 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: endorsements this year was that basically every newspaper across the 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: country was saying neither leader deserves to win and neither 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: party deserves to win. And yet despite the fact that 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: many were claiming this was an uninspiring election where they 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: didn't think that anyone deserved a clear majority, the people 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: have suggested otherwise. 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's labor. Yeah, but let's talk about the coalition. 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: We know objectively it was a very bad night for them. 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: It was you won't just tell us about their loss. 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: Okay. So at this stage, the coalition, which is the 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Liberals and the Nationals, they've won at least thirty seven seats. 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Now at the last election they won fifty eight seats, 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: so they were looking to increase obviously the number of 77 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: seats that they held. They wanted to reach that seventy 78 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: six number. Not only did they not reach that, but 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: they have quite substantially gone backwards. They have lost a 80 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: lot of seats, so they're looking at a loss of 81 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: potentially twenty seats in the House of Reps and wild Yeah, 82 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: it's a really significant loss. And I think we'll go 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: into what Peter Dunn has said about it and what 84 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: people in the party are saying. But I know that 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: David Spears over on the ABC on election night was 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: suggesting that this could be the coalition's lowest ever primary vote. 87 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: So the coalition is looking right now a bit of 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: an existential threat to their future here. 89 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we should mention that Peter Dunnan, the Liberal leader, 90 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: he lost his own seat of Dixon, which we talked 91 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: about in the lead up to the election as a possibility, 92 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: but we said that's quite rare that it would ever happen. 93 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: In fact, if we go back to the two thousand 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: and seven election that was just. 95 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: Talking about getting a lot of edge this election. 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: The last time that this happened was when John Howard 97 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: did lose to Kevin Rudd. 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And so while Peter Dundon had kind of 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: presided over this marginal seat for decades, like, it wasn't 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: new that Dixon was a marginal seat. Ali Franz, who 101 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: ended up winning the seat off him, had actually contested 102 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: that seat three times. So it wasn't necessarily that it 103 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: was surprising that the seat was marginal, but it was 104 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: certainly a surprised that Peter Dudden lost that seat. But 105 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: the swing against the Liberal Party certainly had a lot 106 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: of attention on election night. 107 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: I was going to say, to put it into context, 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: by how much Peter Duddan lost his own seat. That 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: seat of Dixon at the next election will not even 110 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: be considered marginal by the technical definition. Yeah, Ali France 111 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: won that seat by much more than fifty six percent 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: of the votes, which is the technical definition for what 113 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: it needs to be under for a marginal seat. So 114 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: the fact that at the next election Dixon won't even 115 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: be considered my marginal is quite wild. 116 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a rogue thing to say. 117 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: I don't think the term marginal seat holds much value anymore. 118 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: I was thinking that because you know, I'm sure the 119 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: Liberal Party will try to win that seat back, but 120 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it was such a decisive win for 121 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: Ali Franz is just crazy. 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: But like last election, there are a bunch of marginal seats. 123 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: This election, there are a bunch of marginal seats. Half 124 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: of them have turned out, you know, some people have 125 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: increased their majority. I just think some of the language 126 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: that we're using perhaps isn't serving the modern political circumstances 127 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: we find ourselves in. 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I guess you could say that the swings have been swinging. 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, lots swinging. So far of swinging seriously and 130 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: what have you. 131 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: Heard people saying about why the Coalition lost this election? 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: I guess there are two ways you can look at it, 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: Labor winning and the Coalition losing. But let's just focus 134 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: on the Coalition losing. What are experts saying about why 135 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: that happened? 136 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Yes, So on election night we heard from a lot 137 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: of Liberal or Coalition senators and MPs about what they 138 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: were seeing on fold and something that really stuck out 139 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: to me was James Patterson, who's a Liberal senator. He 140 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: was very explicit about the impact of Donald Trump's presidency 141 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: on the Liberal Party and I hadn't heard it as 142 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: explicitly recognized by the Liberal Party themselves until election night, 143 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: but he was saying the Trump effect was monumental and 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: that it was an impossible hurdle for the Liberal Party 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: to overcome. We know that if we look at Canada 146 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: and we now look here, the effect of the Trump 147 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: presidency has seen a return to kind of centrist incumbent 148 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: governments and that's what's happened here. And so I think 149 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: that is probably one of the biggest factors, or certainly 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: that's what the Liberal Party is saying is one of 151 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: the biggest factors. I will just recognize though, that that 152 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: is an external factor, so it makes sense that some 153 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: people inside the party will be pointing to that because 154 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: they couldn't really control it. 155 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: You mentioned Canada for those who missed it. Canada did 156 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: also just have an election and they saw their center 157 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: left party when in a landside as well. In terms 158 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: of an internal factor of why the coalition loss, I 159 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: wonder if it did have something to do with the 160 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: youth vote, because this was the first election that Gen 161 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: Z and millennials outnumbered Baby boomers. And you know, even 162 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: at the Daily Os we tried to interview Peter Dudden 163 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: many times. We are the biggest youth publisher in Australia 164 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: and it's not just that Peter Dudden refused to speak 165 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: to us, but from my understanding, he refused to basically 166 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: speak to any youth news service in the country. 167 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: That certainly could be one factor. I mean, the Liberal 168 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: Party lost votes at every kind of step of the 169 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 2: demographic ladder, so it'll be interesting to see. Usually after 170 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: an electoral loss, we do see the party that loses 171 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: do an analysis of what happened at the election. It's 172 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: usually run by someone inside the party and then someone 173 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: kind of adjacent to the party. So we'll wait to 174 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: see what happens there and what the Liberal Party attributes 175 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: to the loss. Because last election, when the Teals were 176 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: very successful, the Liberal Party analysis found that they needed 177 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 2: to do more to court women and to bring women 178 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: in the party, and so this time it'll be interesting 179 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: to see what the outcome of that analysis is. 180 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Let's move to minor parties and independence. First, the Greens. 181 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: They definitely did not have the night that they were 182 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: hoping for. 183 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: No, so while the Greens did increase their overall primary vote, 184 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: they have struggled to retain or pick up any new 185 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: seats in the House of Representatives. So starting with Leader 186 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: Adam Bant, he held the seat of Melbourne with a 187 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: very comfortable margin. He has seen quite a swing away 188 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: from him in that seat. The ABC at the time 189 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: of recording hasn't called it for band. He is slightly 190 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: ahead though, so it does look like he'll be able 191 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: to retain that seat. But aside from Melbourne, the Greens 192 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: have already conceded the seats of Griffith and Brisbane. Those 193 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: were two seats they picked up at the last election, 194 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: and certainly Max Chandler Mather, who was the MP for Griffith, 195 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: had been quite a focus of the media and he 196 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: had dominated a lot of headlines. So that was a 197 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 2: big one for the Greens to lose. Putting aside the 198 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: Greens for a moment, because we know that the cross 199 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: bench is made up not only of the Greens but 200 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: also of independents and other minor parties. Every single Teal 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: who contested the election, so everyone who was an MP 202 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: previously and contested, they all retained their seats. So every 203 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: single Teal MP retained their seat. And I think again, 204 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: to talk about the Liberal Party, that will be an 205 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: interesting thing for them to look at because they broadly 206 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: considered the Teal movement to be a moment in time, 207 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: a protest vote as it were, and this shows that 208 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: they have actually not only been re elected, but most 209 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: of them have actually increased their margins as well. 210 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: So interesting. I feel like we could do a podcast 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: analyzing the results of you know, each party, each independent, 212 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: the Greens, all so interesting, but I want to move on. 213 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: So so far we have focused on the House of 214 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Representatives and that's because that is the house where government forms. Yeah, 215 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: but Australia was also voting for half of the Senate. Correct, 216 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: do you want to take us through what happened in 217 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: the Senate. 218 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to disappoint listeners. But there is a 219 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: lot that we don't know. So the counting for the 220 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: Senate takes quite a bit longer, as you said, because 221 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: it's not where government is formed. It tends to take 222 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: a bit longer to understand what we're looking at. There 223 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: are predictions that Labor could increase its majority in the 224 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 2: Upper House, but nothing there is confirmed. A lot of 225 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: the headlines that we saw over the weekend focus on 226 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: one senator in particular. That was act Senator David Pocock, 227 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: and we've spoken about him a lot on this podcast before, 228 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: but what is being focused on this time is that 229 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 2: he looks like he has doubled his vote from the 230 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: last election. So he was a first time senator at 231 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: the last election. If you are a senator from one 232 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: of the territories, you are up for reelection every three years. 233 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: Super confusing. Not sure why we can't just make the 234 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: whole country the same, but that's for another time. And 235 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: he looks like he's doubled that vote kind of just 236 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: in the last three years. So a lot of focus there, 237 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: a lot of focus for what that means for Katie Gallagher, 238 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: who's also an act senator from the Labor Party, and 239 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: that'll certainly be a focus in the days and weeks 240 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: to come. 241 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Just two other results that I think are worth mentioning 242 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: from the Senate. It looks like Pauline Hanson's One Nation 243 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: has picked up votes and there has been a swing 244 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: towards her across the country in the Senate, which I 245 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: think is worth mentioning. 246 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and important to note that Pauline Hanson herself wasn't 247 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: up for reelection at this election, but yeah, as you said, 248 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: we have seen a swing towards her party. 249 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: We mentioned on the podcast that her daughter was running 250 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: in Tasmania. We don't know yet if she has won 251 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: that seat, but definitely there has been a swing towards 252 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: One Nation in the Senate. And then also I think 253 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: worth mentioning that the trumpet of Patriots. I'm sure you 254 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: know there are so many people listening who probably received 255 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: text from them throughout the campaign. They have not won 256 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: any seat in either the House of Representatives or in 257 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: the Senate. 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know a lot of people were wondering, as 259 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: you say even how much they were communicated with Billy 260 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: just before we end. We had a lot of to 261 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: and fro with our audience over the weekend, which was 262 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: amazing over on Instagram stories, and one of the most 263 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: recurring questions we got asked was when are all of 264 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: the things that Labor promised actually going to happen? And 265 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: I think that it's an important thing to just really 266 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: quickly discuss and explain because some of it will need 267 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: to go through parliament. A lot of it will need 268 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: to go through parliament, so the government when Parliament is formed, 269 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: they will need to introduce a legislation and then they'll 270 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: need to pass it through both houses of Parliament. So 271 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: it's not like we can wake up tomorrow and all 272 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: of the things that Labour promised happen. The reality also 273 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: is that sometimes political parties promise things during elections that 274 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: they don't fulfill. So that's our role as journalists to 275 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: hold them to account and to keep an eye on 276 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: what the election commitments were and what actually happens during 277 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: the term of parliament. 278 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: And you can bet that we'll be knocking on their 279 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: doors for into view as this term goes on. 280 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: So Billy just to end. Now what happens from here? 281 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: Let's start first with the Liberal Party. What happens for 282 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: them from here? 283 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, because Peter Dudden lost his seat, they definitely 284 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: now need to find a new leader, and that will 285 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: look like the MPs that did win their seats. They 286 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: will then do a vote as to who their new 287 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: leader will be. In terms of who the front runners 288 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: will be, Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor looks like a front runner, 289 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: and then also the current Deputy Liberal Leader Susan Lee, 290 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: will also likely be in the running. But I think 291 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: what's interesting is that over the past two elections the 292 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Liberal Party has lost so many of their key members. 293 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm also thinking of Josh Fredenberg, who lost his seat 294 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: at the twenty twenty two election, who at the time 295 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: looked like he would definitely be the next Liberal leader. 296 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: So I think it will be really interesting to see 297 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: who they choose as their next Liberal leader. And then 298 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: in terms of labor, obviously they have their leader in 299 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: Anthony Albanesi. I did hear yesterday Treasurer Jim Chalmer is 300 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: saying that he thinks that Anthony Albanesi will try for 301 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: a third term. So this is his second term and 302 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers said that he thinks that at the next election, 303 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Albanesi will remain Labor leader and we'll try to 304 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: go for a third term in Australia. Sara, you might 305 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: be able to correct me. I don't think we have 306 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: any maximum limit on how long someone can be a 307 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: prime minister for No, we don't. 308 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're different to the US in that way, but 309 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: we're not going to get ahead of ourselves. No, just 310 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: for an election. We're very tired, so let's not set 311 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: our sites for the next election. 312 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to how confident Labor is 313 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: in obviously how decisive this victory was. 314 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, super interesting, Billy, and we will make sure 315 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: that we are unpacking more results as they come through. 316 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: But thank you for joining us for that mammoth of 317 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: an election. We appreciate all the support that you have 318 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: given us and we couldn't do it without you, our amazing, 319 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: amazing audience. We'll be back again later today with the headlines, 320 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: but until have a great Monday. Bye. 321 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 322 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: Bungelung Calcottin woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily Oz acknowledges 323 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 324 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and torrest 325 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Rate island and nations. We pay our respects to the 326 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present.