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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning Sam.

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Speaker 2: Most of us, I imagine, are fascinated by what happened

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Speaker 2: Malaysia Airlines Boeing seven seven seven, carrying two hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty nine passengers, including six Australians. It vanished without a

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Speaker 2: trace in March eight, twenty fourteen, en route from Kuala

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Speaker 2: Lumpe to Beijing. So many strange things don't add up,

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Speaker 2: and yet we still are no closer to.

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Speaker 1: Finding out what happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, six years on, Peter Stefanovic with Sky News have

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Speaker 2: a compelling two part investigative documentary to maybe give us

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Speaker 2: some answers.

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Speaker 3: Peter Stefanovic, Hello, it's a good question, that isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe give us some answers because we don't have all

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Speaker 3: of the answers until we find the wreckage.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is our Bermuda triangle is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And everyone has a theory. Everyone thinks they

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Speaker 3: know what happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's start with what actually did happen. So the

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Speaker 2: plane takes off. Two hours after takeoff with no reports

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Speaker 2: of bad weather or distress call, the plane goes askew

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Speaker 2: and it's turned off its communication system. That's pretty much

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Speaker 2: all we know, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. That's when communication went dead, so quite

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Speaker 3: literally on all of those radars, it just went blank.

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Speaker 3: So you've got you've got I don't know if you've

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Speaker 3: seen flight tracker, you know flight So you've got a

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Speaker 3: little plane that's sort of beeping along and then all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, book's gone, and then no one knows

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Speaker 3: where it is. And the airspace network around Vietnam should

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Speaker 3: have had communication with the airplane five minutes after it

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Speaker 3: crossed into its airspace, that's sort of the general rules

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Speaker 3: of things, but they were slow to react. It was,

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Speaker 3: you know, one o'clock in the morning, and they didn't

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Speaker 3: try and get some communication with the plane until twenty

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Speaker 3: minutes after that. And by that time we later learned

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Speaker 3: that the plane flew back and went back across the

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Speaker 3: Malay Peninsula and up the Malacca Straight and out towards

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Speaker 3: the Southern Indian Ocean. So there was just a whole

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Speaker 3: catalog of areas. Most of that is known, but what

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Speaker 3: isn't known is the communication that went behind the scenes

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Speaker 3: with some very very senior people, not just in Malaysian

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Speaker 3: government but the Australian government.

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Speaker 1: That's who we talk to after the fact.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, So what we basically reveal, and this

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Speaker 3: will start tonight, is these very very private conversations that

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Speaker 3: take place between highest levels of the Australian government and

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Speaker 3: the Malaysian government. And they knew within a week what

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Speaker 3: happened to the plane, but they continued to look in

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Speaker 3: the wrong areas, so they deliberately but why well, possibly

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Speaker 3: because you know, they there was a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: cultural sensitivities around.

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Speaker 2: The fact that the pilot went all And do we

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Speaker 2: think that this was a suicide mission?

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Speaker 3: We think so.

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Speaker 1: What about some of these investigators that say they've had

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Speaker 1: death threats and stuff like that, is Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Blaine Gibson, we talked him, gives this. He's a very

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Speaker 3: colorful American fella who funds his own travel and he

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Speaker 3: goes to all of these beaches around Madagascar and he

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Speaker 3: ended up finding about nineteen pieces of the debris so far,

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Speaker 3: has been about thirty six pieces that have been found

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Speaker 3: so far, all in reasonably the same area, according to currents.

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Speaker 3: And he's had death threats. He claims he's had death

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Speaker 3: threats from people from people in these particular countries who

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Speaker 3: not sure whether it's link to the plane. There might

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Speaker 2: But there are also theories that they're all like in

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Speaker 2: the movie Lost. For a while we thought they're all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are those theories too, that sucked into a

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Speaker 3: black hole and in some airfield and Kazakhstan or which.

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Speaker 2: You know, the fact that an entire airplane can completely

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Speaker 3: Theories, but you know, it's quite frightening to know that

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Speaker 3: it's so easy. Yeah, it was so easy to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the pilot has when the plane went dead, aultimate control.

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Speaker 3: were they alive at the end, replying yes, So, military

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Speaker 3: radar showed us that about fifteen minutes after the plane

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Speaker 3: about fifteen seconds from thirty one thousand feet to about

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Speaker 2: Would they have gone to sleep.

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Speaker 3: So hypoxia would have kicked in, and so it would

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Speaker 3: but we suspect this is what happened. It would have

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Speaker 2: God after the fear of almost.

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Speaker 3: Confusion, yeah, about what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Forty one thousand feet that's almost into the stratosphere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But if he was doing this as a religious act,

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Speaker 2: would there be some sign that he wanted the world

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Speaker 3: That is the confusion at this point. That's why you

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Speaker 3: can't say that with any with one hundred percent certainty,

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Speaker 3: because there hasn't been a letter, There hasn't been anybody

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Speaker 2: And what about co pilot?

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Speaker 3: Co pilot has been ruled out because he's about to

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Speaker 3: get married. There was nothing on his history that suggested

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Speaker 2: But he had to sit in that cockpit and see

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Speaker 2: what the plane was doing.

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Speaker 1: So how does this go? You have a fear of fly? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So this hasn't helped you in any way.

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Speaker 3: And it started to form when I was a correspondent

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Speaker 3: because I just the math I had was that the

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Speaker 3: But a part of this investigation is I sat in

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Speaker 2: So did it help or hinder your fear of flying?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm more confused than ever. Well, it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing you working for Sky News.

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Speaker 4: They'll put you on a bus one.

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Speaker 3: The horrible thing was that as part of this I

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Speaker 2: You have to watch the movie Cats and then hope

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Speaker 2: And we haven't even congratulated you on your new Oscar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You look like you've had some sleep.

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Speaker 3: Was up early this morning because it's a try. There's

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Speaker 3: Patty's back and do that stuff, try and do that stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Because you're gonna have because if carl has with the

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Speaker 3: Well, I've got my little brother who's just had one too.

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Speaker 3: So my mum is on cloud night at the moment. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Red Ma's gonna have a lot of press.

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Speaker 3: But it's not it's lovely. I'm really enjoying it so far.

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Speaker 1: That Karlov just like Uncle Carr.

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Speaker 4: It will only be a matter of time before he's

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Speaker 4: getting a calf tattoo and I'll feel like yesterday was

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Speaker 4: a little baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, make good on you for the calf tattoo my

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Speaker 4: Pete.

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Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: This great documentary MH three seventy The Untold Stories Tonight

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Speaker 4: and Tomorrow Night on Sky News at eight o'clock Peter Stepanovic, Thank.

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Speaker 3: Youanks for having me. Great to see you.

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