1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. Hello, 5 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: and welcome to the pod. So, as you know, I'm 6 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: living in La or Los Angeles at the moment, So 7 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: what I'm doing is for the Monday episode, I am 8 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: interviewing local creatives or locals that have just got a 9 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: dream that are going after it, and today is no 10 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: exception to that. It is the wonderful Elkaberry, Aussie Melbourne 11 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: based originally actress who is now here in the land 12 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: of dreams as an actor, stand up comedian, voiceover artist, 13 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: you name it. She's got some ripper stories, some great advice, 14 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: and she's so inspiring. So I really hope you enjoy 15 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: this chat from my apartment in LA with the lovely Alcaberry. 16 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Big love, Alcaberry, Welcome to the pod. 17 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 18 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: I so we a little bit of backstory here. You 19 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: and I hiked a couple of weeks ago. You are 20 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: an Aussie actor living the dream here in the city 21 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: of dreams and you inspired me so so much, and 22 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: so it felt like a no brainer to get you 23 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: on the pod and you delivered a freaking brilliant bio. Jimmy, 24 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: I wish every guest could do that, So thank you again. 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: No worries, I guess I want to start a little 26 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: bit before your time here in LA. So you're a 27 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Melbourne girl born and bred, and is it true like 28 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: history of athlete and that kind of like go get 29 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: a mentality, swimmer and whatnot. 30 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I started athletics when I was really young and 31 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: I trained in that for fourteen years and swimming and 32 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: was also I'm from a family of professional violinists, so. 33 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: Music was in my family for years and years and. 34 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: Years, and so it made sense that I was interested 35 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: in the arts in general because it's in my blood totally. 36 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Do you find like before going into actings being like 37 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: that athletic, go get a vibe because I often find 38 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: the drive of someone that's got sport in their blood 39 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: as well, can transfer that drive too, because there are 40 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: lazy actors out there, do you know what I mean? 41 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Do you find that kind of flicked over for you? 42 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: Oh? 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: Definitely, I think honestly, the discipline my father gave me 44 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: as my coach and my music teacher. And seeing him 45 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: as you know, the lead the lead of the second 46 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: violinists in the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra for forty seven years, 47 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: forty eight years and never had a sick day, always 48 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: on time. And I grew up seeing him rehearsal day 49 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: at home and then be on stage every night and 50 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: he never stopped. And that set the best discipline in 51 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: my brothers and sisters. 52 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: And I absolutely, ah. 53 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: I played the violin for five years. 54 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: Ah, there you go. 55 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: The Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. That's no joke, Like, yeah, that's 56 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: one of the best in the world. There's the London 57 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: Philharmonic and the Melbourne Symphony are considered the top two. 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: It's like it's like winning an Oscar, you know, if 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: you're invited to be a part of that orchestra and 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: then be a leader for that long. And so his 61 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: career has definitely been one of the biggest inspirations in 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: my whole life. Absolutely, are you lucky bugger g. 63 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I thought everyone grew up with a dad 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: that was in the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. 65 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I honestly did. 66 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: And then you'd go to primary school and be like, 67 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: you know, my dad's away with Elton John. I didn't 68 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: know who Elton John was, but you know, the teachers 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: used to say to my mom, you know, your child 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: has a problem with telling the truth. And my mom 71 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: was like, I remember at one parent teacher interview when 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: I was younger, she said, oh, no. 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, her father's with Elton John. I was touring 74 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: for the year, and they were like. 75 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, sorry, we just thought, you know, because you 76 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: think everyone's father is touring without. 77 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: John, touring without John, you know. So it was like 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: a wake up call. I was like, oh, right, okay, 79 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: I'm quite lucky. How cool? 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: And so did your parents support you, like taking the 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: really creative artist path? 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: Actually, my dad did. 83 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: I think whatever I did in the arts, he was 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: going to be behind it. I think there was a 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: little bit of a come to Jesus moment where he 86 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: had to accept I wasn't going to be a professional 87 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: violinist because I didn't want to be. But I have 88 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: a very big passion for the violin still and I 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: still play. But my mum actually didn't know I was 90 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: doing acting. I think she's taken a path in her 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: life of being a CEO, and we don't have a 92 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: very strong bond, and I think she couldn't empathize as 93 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: much as my dad could. And so I actually kept 94 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: it a secret that I was acting in my teenage years. 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't feel like that. I feel like a lot 96 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: of people could probably relate to that, Like I know, 97 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: and one thing as well, I've noticed about parents and 98 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: like even for me coming over to LA and kind 99 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: of like leaving the safety of Australia where you know, 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: it's I keep saying that it's a really safe and simple, 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: like very an amazing existence, but it's not scary, like 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I was saying to a friend every 103 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: time I like even leave the house here, I have 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: to go right and jump. Yes, you know, like you 105 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: feel like that here in LA. And I think that 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: parents that don't necessarily get on board straight away with 107 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: a really risky career, it's obviously out of protection as well. Yes, 108 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: so I kind of get it. It's too pronged thing. 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: But yeah, And I think my mum wanted to be 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: able to say my daughter is just like me, and 111 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't going to reinforce her career choices with my 112 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: own and so there was a bit of disappointment because 113 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: I could go down that route having a corporate career 114 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: as well anyway, but I just felt like I was 115 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: going to be selling myself short. This is the one 116 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: thing I thought my whole life, since I was really young, 117 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: what if one day I'm lying on my deathbed and 118 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: I have to lie there with regret going what if 119 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: I had tried that thing? 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: I was scared of what if? 121 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: And I honestly have fueled myself out of fear of 122 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 3: regret for a lot of the time. 123 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm you're preaching to the choir one hundred percent, 124 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: and I think that the universe gives you these little 125 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: like do you want to take the safe road because 126 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: this safe job? 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? 128 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: And you're like, no, I'm going to ignore it. I'm 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: going to chase this dream that nobody else can see 130 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: but me. 131 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 132 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: So when you started, so you started doing your acting 133 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: training in Australia, right, yes? And how old were you 134 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: when you started doing that and realizing, Hey. 135 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: I love this. 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: I was about seventeen or eighteen when I started training, 137 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: and I knew that I definitely wanted to be training 138 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: for a number of years before I even tried to 139 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: get an agent because I had this very strong sense 140 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: that you know, an agent and then a casting director 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: is going to meet me and probably remember me in 142 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: terms of the way they first saw me. You know, 143 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: when you meet you learn about someone on TV, but 144 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: you're introduced to them as a singer, and then years 145 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: later they turn up in a film and you go, oh, 146 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: that's good that they switched into acting, and then they're like, no, no, no, 147 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: I was an actor before I was a singer. It's 148 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: just that you remember people in the way that you're 149 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: first introduced to them. And so I thought, what if 150 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: I turn up in front of casting whatever and I'm crap, 151 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: and then I improve and improve and improve, and then 152 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: for years to come castings going no, we don't need 153 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: to see her for that audition because we know that 154 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: she's shit. I was very much like, do not make 155 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: that mistake. Even though I was desperate to get out there, 156 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: I really had to have self control and go, don't 157 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: do that, Elka, don't do that. 158 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Train for a number of years. 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 3: And when you feel you genuinely have something to offer, 160 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: you're allowed to go and get your first agent, but 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: you have to start small and build your way up. 162 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: Didn't you just say before this podcast, because I was like, 163 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, I wanted extra bio tips and all that, 164 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: and you were like, someone taught you preparation is perfect. 165 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: Preparation prevents poor performance. 166 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: Kathleen Barker at the TAC one of my best bosses ever, 167 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: I love you, And she used to always always say 168 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: that to us, and I remember it just used to 169 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: really resonate because as much as she used to say it, 170 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: and my co managers and I used to roll our eyes, 171 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: we never forgot it, and we were like, that's so true. 172 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh totally. And I think in acting world you 173 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: can feel it more than ever. Like even you said, like, 174 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: when I'm nervous for something. 175 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: I know I haven't done enough work yet, it's because 176 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm not prepared. 177 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: How cool to know that, ye about yourself. And I 178 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: think also the discipline you learn from your dad as well. Yep, 179 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: there's a high chance that guys never going to do 180 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: anything half like your dad's gonna do something that he's rehearsed, rehearse, 181 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: or rehearse to the point of like you can stuff 182 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: it up and it would it'd be awesome, you know. 183 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. 184 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: His version of I didn't do well is ridiculously good. 185 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: It's anyone's best at anyone else's best day, his dad 186 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 3: having a bad day. And so I think a lot 187 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: of my life I've been driven by I don't want 188 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: to disappoint myself. But I think I always say to 189 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: him that he's my conscience, and he says, well, I 190 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: shouldn't be your conscience. That's not right, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, 191 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: but it's true. I'm I'm very lucky. I at least 192 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: have one parent who's who in the back of my mind, 193 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: I've been able to have as someone I aspire to be, 194 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: like totally, it's so funny, Like I always have been like, Dad, 195 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: I want to make you proud, Dad. 196 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: I want to have books that cater and everything. But 197 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: since I've got here, I think my mom was nomadic 198 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: as a youngster. She was a model and photographer and wow, 199 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: and but then she went into nursing. And since I've 200 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: got to La, my mom's like like she's I feel 201 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: like a part of her is being realized or something. Yeah, 202 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: it's nomadic person chasing their dream and My'm like, she's 203 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: just checking in. I want to support, like really shout 204 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: out to your mum. If you hear this, she's been unreal. 205 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Like I get so pumped up for. 206 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: My chats with mom that's so gorgeous. 207 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: And with dad, but I was so blown away by 208 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: like I think dream chases can see something else in 209 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: another dream chaser and it really evokes something with them 210 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: in them and it's really not like so I get 211 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: the parent like the effects that parents can have on me, 212 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: like in a really really good way, like chasing your dreams. Okay, 213 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: so you realize, pretty dumb, young, you're like acting as 214 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: my jam You started training your show Real. You've done 215 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: some great things in Australia like Winners and Losers Iconic 216 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Channel seven drama. The scene in your show Real is 217 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: like you're doing role Is it the roller? 218 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was so fun. I had to 219 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: play the captain of a roller. Yes, I mean, if 220 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: I could just I mean, there's the funniest stories of 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: that shoot where I had to stop on my mark 222 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: and I was like, and someone shoots me how to 223 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: stop in roller skates? And I remember Nicholas Bafalo directing 224 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: us in an episode and after like our first take 225 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: of one of our scenes, I missed them. I missed 226 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 3: the mark. He was like, you're going to skate into 227 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: this first position. I'm like, great, and I missed it. 228 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: And afterwards I he said to me, so elkra if 229 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: you know by first position, if we could land anywhere 230 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: within this postcode. 231 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: I'd be happy. 232 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: And oh my gosh, it was the funniest comment. We 233 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: all had the giggles and I was like, fair, cool, 234 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: fair col So doing that was great. 235 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I was. 236 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: I'd been in LA for a few years and I 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: came back actually and I was activating my green card 238 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: and while I was back, I was only in Australia 239 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 3: for a few weeks and I booked a few episodes 240 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: of that, so that was that was great because I 241 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: didn't know what Winners and Losers was, of course, and 242 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: then I came back and it had been this show 243 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: on the air for a couple of seasons, and I 244 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is this is great? 245 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, massive, Yeah. And then City Homicide as well. 246 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was before I went to LA. I had. 247 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: That was a great experience of auditioning for something that 248 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: was like a one liner, and when I was in 249 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: the room, I learned a great lesson about not lying 250 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: about your age, because they couldn't cast a role that 251 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: was for someone a lot older than the role I 252 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: was going in for. And when I was in the room, 253 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: they went by the way, would you be closer to 254 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: this age by any chance? And I was like yes, 255 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: They said, great, go out with these sides and read 256 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: this character instead, and she was a lot bigger character. 257 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I came back. 258 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: In an audition for a different character and booked that 259 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: bigger character, and I remember thinking how lucky that I 260 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: know in my head what was going through was Honesty's 261 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: the best policy. Just just be very honest with them 262 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: because whatever's meant to be will be. And that was 263 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: like a big payoff for that, and so that was 264 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: really fun doing that. So I'd kind of done by 265 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: the time I came to LA And a big reason 266 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: for wanting to come was at the time there weren't 267 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: a lot of TV shows and especially produced in Melbourne, 268 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: and I had a run where I'd done them all 269 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: in a short period of time, and one of the 270 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: first episodes of Offspring, and we didn't know if that 271 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: was going to be continued or acted or whatever, because yeah, 272 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,119 Speaker 3: also you know, you know, go figure. 273 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: It's gone for years and years and years. 274 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: But at the time there were so many shows getting 275 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: picked up and being let go of in a couple 276 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: of episodes. So I remember at the time doing you know, 277 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: one of the first episodes of that and just getting 278 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: asked directly to do it, not having to audition, and 279 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: being like, yeah, because you know what, it's a small role, 280 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: but if it's on the air, it's a role I 281 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: got to do before the show was ACXD. If it 282 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: goes for years and years and years, I can come 283 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: back and do a different character one day. And by 284 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: then by the time I'd done that, I'd sort of 285 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: done the Neighbors City Homicide off spring, you know, all 286 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: in this short period of time, and I couldn't audition 287 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: for anything else. There was kind of nothing left and 288 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: I just wanted to go where I could audition more. 289 00:13:59,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: That was it. 290 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: You hit the ceiling right in Australia sometimes with the opportunity. 291 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and not to say it all that, Oh yeah, 292 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: I was a big star or anything by any stretch, 293 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: but I'd got as far as I was able to 294 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: get given I had just appeared on those shows. Yeah, 295 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: And I think it was Nathan Nathan at Mulliner's at 296 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: the time before he had his own business, said yeah, 297 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: it's going to be eighteen months before you could come 298 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: back as a different character for the audience to forget you. 299 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh gosh, but then. 300 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: What am I What are you meant to do for 301 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: eighteen months? 302 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, go to lot to Sydney and now do the 303 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: Sydney shows, because you know, there was the whole union 304 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: thing with Sydney and Melbourne. And I just got to 305 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: this point where I thought, the joy is in the journey. 306 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: Even if you're not booking. You know, you need to be. 307 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: Good at auditioning because auditioning is the job until you 308 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: book the job. 309 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: Really, auditioning is the job. And I was like, I 310 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: don't even get to audition. 311 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: Now, and like something about that just made me think 312 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: I have two choices. I can sit and wait for 313 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: the phone to ring, or I can go where I 314 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: can have more opportunities. And if that was in Australia, 315 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: I would not have left. It's just that it wasn't 316 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: in Australia, so I had to just go wherever it was. 317 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't that I was like, oh stuff Australia. 318 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: No, totally. I was just trying to do what I 319 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: love you going to the core, like yeah, where it 320 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: was exactly. So what happened when you told your agent 321 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: all right, I think I'm going to go to LA 322 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and give it a crack and I want to get 323 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: an O one, which is for people listening, like the 324 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: actors kind of visa working visa. And what was their response? 325 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: Well, the lead agent and my agency, who I must say, like, 326 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: great agent, great auditions. 327 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: I'd started auditioning. 328 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: For some US stuff and I'd started working in American 329 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: accent back in Australia and sending off self tapes and 330 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: all of that kind of stuff. And I think I'd 331 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: surprised her with a couple of auditions and she was like, oh, 332 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: you know, great feedback about this one. And I thought, okay, 333 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: well someone in American knows I'm alive. I go over 334 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: there for two weeks and take some meetings and all 335 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: of that, and so I told her my idea and 336 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: she was I think she was trying to be protective, 337 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: but she basically said, you're not going to get a 338 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: No One visa. That's not going to happen. And I'm sorry, 339 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: but no one's really going to be interested in meeting 340 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: with you in LA. And I must say that crushed me. 341 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: I will never forget getting that email because it was 342 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: a moment where I think the child in me wanted 343 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: to burst into tears, because I had this moment where 344 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: I kind of caught myself mid thought and my triggered 345 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: reaction was to cry out of self loathing and disappointment. 346 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: And I'm an idiot. 347 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: For thinking a hurtful thing to say to someone. 348 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really hurtful. 349 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: And then I had this moment where I went, no, no, 350 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: hang on, hang on, Let's be logical. What are the 351 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: chances that she has spoken to every agent and manager 352 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: in LA. 353 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: Zero percent. 354 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: What are the chances that she's spoken to any agent 355 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: or manager in LA probably zero percent as well. So 356 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: if we logically break this down and we look at 357 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: the facts and take away the emotion, Elka, because I've 358 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: been doing a lot of work on myself on you know, 359 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: learning to not have emotional responses when I was a 360 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: lot younger and stuff. I was like, when we look 361 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: at the facts, this person can't possibly know what they're 362 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: talking about because it's based on. 363 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: No fact and just their own life experience, like their 364 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 1: own and their own like filtered judgment of yes, and 365 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: so I certily even knew maybe themselves exactly. 366 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: And I chose to write back and say, could I ask, 367 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: I appreciate your opinion, but would it be okay if 368 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: I ask, are you saying that to me because you 369 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: think I'm not you know, I'm not good at what 370 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: I do. I don't have the chops, in which case 371 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 3: it would be pretty dumb for her to say, yeah, 372 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: you don't have the chops, but I'm still repping you, 373 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: because that would be my next comment, why you know, 374 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: I'd ask, well, why are you wrapping me if I 375 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: don't have the chops? 376 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: If you don't believe in me? 377 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: And why did you put me up for American roles 378 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 3: if you thought I'd never book them? So I was 379 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: kind of going to, in a way, corner her with 380 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: a question. But I was like, or are you saying 381 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: that you have seen other actors on your books try 382 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: and do what I'm talking about and they have failed, 383 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: and so you're trying to be protective? And she said 384 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: more the latter, and so I was like, okay, So 385 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 3: I see that she's trying to be protective. And I 386 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: remember my response being thank you so much, but they're 387 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: not me. 388 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 389 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: And it was one of the most empowering moments of 390 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: my life. And I was really respectful about it because 391 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't like f you to her or anything. I 392 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: was just like, thank you, but they're not me. 393 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: I'm me. There's only one of me. 394 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 395 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: And I work in human resources. I've always had a 396 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: second career. At the same time, I know how to 397 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: follow a visa process, I know how to do my work, 398 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: and I know that I'm not silly enough to try 399 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: and go for something if all the legal factual information 400 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: coming back at me is you're not ready, you don't 401 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: have the criteria covered. Like I'm not going to be 402 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: someone who goes with stars in my eyes underprepared. 403 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, totally well and a wonderful actress. Her name's 404 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: ash Brewer, who lives over here, bold and beautiful yep. 405 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: I ran into her many years ago at Air one 406 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: right near CBS. Yeah, I think she was probably. 407 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: Working there, and I was like, oh my god. 408 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: I was there like full stars in my eyes, hadn't 409 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: done any the visa process yet. I was on an 410 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: star and I was like, I want to move and 411 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: she and she beautifully said it. She was like, come 412 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: here ready, because it can eat you up and spit 413 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: you out kind of thing. And it was the best 414 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: advice and it came from like just pure honesty. And 415 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: as a result, I've come here much more already than 416 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: I could have three years down the track, and being like, 417 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: like you said, you're not going to go into something 418 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: without the paperwork done. You're not going to do things 419 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: until you're set up, and not just even from a 420 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: very practical legal perspective, but also like emotionally, you need 421 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: to do the work on yourself to have it is 422 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: an industry of rejection. 423 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I often think back to coming over 424 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: at thirty three, And what's really interesting is if my 425 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: agent had said that to me, and I was maybe 426 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: twenty eight, you would have listened. I would have listened. 427 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: It would have changed the course of my life. I 428 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: would have believed her. I wouldn't have had the inner 429 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 3: confidence to question it. I wouldn't have known myself well enough. 430 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: And in all the times I could have won the 431 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: Green Card lottery sooner than I did as well, by 432 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: the time I won that, even though I was already 433 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: here on a No. One visa by the time I 434 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: won it, I started thinking what would have happened? If 435 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: I want it sooner? I would have let it laps, 436 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: I would have run back home. I wouldn't have been ready. 437 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: So everything happened when I was ready to take full 438 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: responsibility for my life with no expectations and live in 439 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: a very realistic, self sufficient way. 440 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 441 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: Ah, it's amazing. 442 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: So let's talk La and LA life and work, because 443 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: it is I think LA is a beast, a beautiful beast, 444 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: but it is a beast, and it is hard, and 445 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: it is raw, and it is inspiring and it is. 446 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: Hard, man like. 447 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: And I've only been here for like far out, like 448 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: three months or something, and I'm like, and I said 449 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: to Matt, my boyfriend, I was like, I love that 450 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: it's hard. 451 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 452 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: I love that nothing gets handed to you. I love 453 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: that it feels dog eat dog like. It feels really 454 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: like when you talk about having the chops, like you're 455 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: gonna know pretty dune quick if you've got them or 456 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: nice yes, right, yes, but you from like the moment, 457 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: so you got that email from your agent, you were like, okay, 458 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: stuff this, I'm gonna have my own back. I'm going 459 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: to give this a crack from pretty soon after landing, 460 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: you had booked yourself some work and you had an 461 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: O one vast you had an actor's working visa, right. 462 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the visa very quickly with premium processing 463 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: at the time. As it turned out, I had the 464 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: case for a green card. Yeah, they would have the 465 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: same one that I got. 466 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 467 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: And the interesting thing was I was told by my 468 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: agent I didn't even have enough for a no One. 469 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: But I met with multiple attorneys because I wanted to 470 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: see the through line of truth and figure it out 471 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: for myself and get the legal perspective from US based 472 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: immigration attorneys with a fantastic reputation who I felt I 473 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: could trust. And I got a good cross section of 474 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: information and the one thing that was consistent across the 475 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: board was oh, you have more than enough, and so 476 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: I knew I could get it. And then I already 477 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: had an agent and manager. I had a commercial agent, 478 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: theatrical agent, and a manager by the time I came over, 479 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: because I did come over for two weeks whilst I 480 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 3: was getting my visa information together, and I organized all 481 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: the meetings myself because my agent wouldn't, as she said, 482 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: because no one would meet with me. As it turned out, 483 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: eight people wanted to when I reached out to them, 484 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: and I got offered rep by all of them, and 485 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: someone sponsored me. And I came back three months later 486 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: and straight off the plane, I had a commercial audition 487 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: and a theatrical audition which was for like a SAG 488 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: short film, and I didn't have to be a member 489 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: of SAG at that point to just do the short. 490 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: And I remember seeing this email that said, hey, Elk's 491 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: this is just purely American accent practice, like this is 492 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: just to get you off the plane and into a 493 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: room and using that American accent. 494 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: And I booked them both. 495 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: And now not for a second did I think, oh, 496 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: that means it's going to be easy. I just think 497 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: there was this sense of anonymity that was attached to me, 498 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: this energy of no one knows who I am, no 499 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: one knows if they're ever going to see me again. 500 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: I don't know who you are. I don't even know 501 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: what I'm doing here. I've got nothing to lose. I'm 502 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: just going to leave it all in the room and 503 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: just walk out laughing at myself pretty much, and just 504 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: see it as a bit of a joke and a 505 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: game and I think there was something about that energy 506 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: of Oh, hang on, who's that girl that's not desperate? 507 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: Hang on, come back here? And it was so funny. 508 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: I remember just getting that call and booking and people 509 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: who I then met who'd been here a while, were like, 510 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: you're what and. 511 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, yeah, oh great. 512 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: And I've tried to capture that essence. I've tried to 513 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: rebottle that essence so many times and be like that 514 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: energy that I had that really worked. But it was 515 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: great to show me Elka, you here to play. 516 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good like affirming. 517 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: Yes, it was just that little It was that little 518 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: something that I needed and straightway my agent in Australia 519 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: was interested in me again and that's that's when I 520 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: let her go. Yes, ah, and it was you know, 521 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: it was it was hard to let her go, but 522 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 3: I just said, I thank you for everything and respect 523 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: everything you did for me. You help even you taking 524 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: me on, help me to believe in myself. But I 525 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: need someone who's not going to fly in an believe 526 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 3: in me now at the eleventh hour when I've booked, 527 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: when there's money. Ethically, that's not right with how I 528 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 3: was raised. So it was just some kind of like 529 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 3: a principal thing for me more than anything. But I 530 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: still really am so grateful for her and think she's 531 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: a very good agent. 532 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I think like you never you never 533 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: regret part of your journey. 534 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: No, I don't really like her as a person, Like 535 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm like, you know what, that's just her 536 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: journey and her learning and whatever. So she was just 537 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: doing her best. 538 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I totally hear and completely agree with that. 539 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: I've got to ask about Wrecked because I saw that, 540 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh it's a sniffet from it on your show Real 541 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: It looked like so much fun. 542 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was one of my favorite things 543 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 3: I've ever done. I must say that was like a 544 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: show over here. For people in the US, they would 545 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: know it. It was on PBS or PBS TBS and 546 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 3: it was a comedy series. 547 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: I think it went for two or three seasons. 548 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 3: And you know your self tape self tape for years 549 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: as an actor, and you always think when you send 550 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: off that self tape, does anyone. 551 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: Really get that self tape and watch it? 552 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: Does? 553 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: I just go into cyberspace and I hear so many 554 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: actors go, I don't know if anyone sees these. 555 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 556 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: And I'd been self taping a long time and I 557 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: remember getting this audition like ten o'clock on a Saturday night, 558 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: and I was like, what, this is late and it 559 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: was due the next afternoon. And I remember reading that 560 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 3: script and thinking, oh my gosh, this is so funny, 561 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna believe in myself. I know where the 562 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: comedic beats are in this character. 563 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: I know it. 564 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: I know it, I know it, and I really wanted 565 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: to book it was opposite Rees Starby playing his wife 566 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: in an episode or two. And I remember sending off 567 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: this self tape and I was sick as a dog. 568 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: I looked terrible. 569 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: I was bloated, and I remember just looking atrocious in 570 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: this self tape. But you know, dold myself up as 571 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: best I could. And the guy that was even taping 572 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: for me, he used to always direct me, and you 573 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: know what, he used to take me out of my 574 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: impulses being directed by because I used to always think, yep, yep, 575 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: you would know better than me, you would know better 576 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: than me. 577 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: I'll take that direction. 578 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: And I'm always open to being directed and I love 579 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: being directed. But I'd also learned to not trust my 580 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: impulses as an actor to a degree totally. 581 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: And this one time he went to direct me and 582 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: I went. 583 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm doing it all my way 584 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: because I feel the beats in this. I love comedy, 585 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: I know comedy. I'm doing it my way. I know 586 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: how to make this something. And literally, by seven o'clock 587 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: the next morning, my managers on the Monday morning emailed 588 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: me and said, someone from NBC contacted us. They thought 589 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: your audition was hilarious. Get ready to fly to Puerto 590 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: Rico tomorrow. And I had to be a Puerto Rican 591 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: local higher as an AUSSI and I remember saying that 592 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: on my self tape audition. I had to say it 593 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: into the camera. I said, oh, you know, hi, I'm Elkeeberry. 594 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm based in Los Angeles, but ironically, I am a 595 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: Puerto Rican local higher, you know, like who's an Aussie 596 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: from LA who's a perto Rican local life? You know, honestly, 597 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking so many actors right now saying that 598 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: into the camera. And because I knew I could get 599 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: myself there and all of that, that was fine, and 600 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: I could get accommodation and yeah, then I just got 601 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 3: this call and it was just like, get on a 602 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 3: plane and go there. And I looked at the call 603 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: sheet and I was opposite Josh Lawson, and I thought, oh. 604 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: I love Josh. He's so funny. 605 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's one of my favorite actors. How 606 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: hilarious we know each other. This is going to be 607 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: great fun I was cheating on my husband Reees Darby 608 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: with Josh Lawson winning. 609 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I was like, this is great. 610 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: And so I arrived on set and then the director 611 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: who's in with the producers in the Little Video Village 612 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: comes out and goes, oh, get a elka, great to 613 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: meet you. 614 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: It's Stuart McDonald and I was like what. 615 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: Stuart McDonald is the director from Melbourne who's done a 616 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: lot of Chris Lily stuff. 617 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, hang on a second, Yeah, do you. 618 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: Mean to say that I had to move to la 619 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: to get an audition, to be a local hire as 620 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: an Aussie in Puerto Rico to work on set with 621 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: Stuart McDonald from Melbourne and Josh Lawson from Land who's 622 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: worked in Melbourne a lot. 623 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: Is that how this is going? And we're all. 624 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: Like yep, how funny. And then Stewart and I became 625 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: good friends. He's a lovely man, him and his wife Belinda, 626 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: and we had a great rapport and Reese working with 627 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: him was great and it was the funniest, one of 628 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: the funniest days on set that we were giggling so 629 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: hard with the improv we were doing that the camera 630 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: guy had to stop, you know, he couldn't keep the 631 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: camera straight. Amazing, and it was just such a rewarding 632 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 3: experience because it was just really we improved so much. 633 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: Crazy. 634 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: So for people listening with improv, does that mean they 635 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 1: give you like loose lines or is it like, no, 636 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: you go in, this is your intention for the scene, 637 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: and then you're fully. 638 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: It was fully scripted, and it was like, this is 639 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 3: your intention whatever. And as soon as we got one 640 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: or two takes out, Stuart was like, let's mess with it. 641 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: Oh really, and let's keep rolling after and let's throw 642 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: in another idea and let's because he you know, he 643 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: explained they kind of overshot those episodes by a good time. 644 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: There were half hour episodes, but they overshot it by 645 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: a good ten minutes in case they got extra goal 646 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: that they wanted to throw in. And then he said, look, 647 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: so much may be edited out and not even make it. 648 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: And in the end some of it he said his 649 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: favorite scenes didn't make the episode, which were our scenes. 650 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: Some of our scenes made it in, but I think 651 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: the funniest moments they didn't play to the story enough. Yeah, 652 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: and he told me after, you know, they were my 653 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: funny my favorite funny moments. 654 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: Because they were really ridiculous. But it was just such 655 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: a joy to. 656 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: Feel like I'm at the table, I got someone to 657 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: offer here people Yeah, people laughing at my stuff. 658 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm a player. Hello. 659 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: I love that it takes you to be based in 660 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: la and flying so loud to work with. Also side outdated, 661 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: I think Krystly is so amazing. If I ever missed Australia, 662 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: I watched Lunatics on Netflix. 663 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. 664 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: My favorite character is Christly plays a pet psychic. 665 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'll send you. I have to see it. 666 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: I'll put a link in the show notes too, just 667 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 1: because it's so much fun but crystally genius. So it's 668 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: kind of nice to know that you got to work 669 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: with that director. 670 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh with Stuart, he's so such a lovely guy and 671 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: he works all the time in the US and Australia. 672 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: He's he does a lot of comedy in particular and drama, 673 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: but a lot of American TV. 674 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: M Oh my goodness. Okay, so I want to ask 675 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: you a few Well before I actually asked you a 676 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: few questions, when you and I hiked, you told me 677 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: about this day where you got a call and you 678 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: were like in exercise gear, you felt sweaty, and someone's like, listen, 679 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: someone hasn't rocked up on set for it to be 680 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: a stand in. Can you just And you're like, I'm 681 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: not really, I don't really do stand in, but stuff it. 682 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't have anything on today, like I'm going to 683 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: do it, and they're like, just get there now. Can 684 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: you take me through what transpired? 685 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: Yep, okay, so exactly as you described, I had one 686 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: of my few days off a mixed amidst doing other 687 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: work to pay the bills and stuff, and yeah, I 688 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: don't do stand in work. But a friend called and 689 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: just said, look, I gave your name to this company. 690 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: They're desperate, they need someone. There's a film being made 691 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: at the moment. It's an untitled Warren Baty feature film. 692 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: As it turns out, it was the film Rules Don't apply. 693 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: I watched the trailer last night and with Lily Collins, 694 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: and there were these two days coming up, including the 695 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: one day I got the call where they were going 696 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: to be more intimate scenes in the film. And for 697 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people who don't know out there, you know, 698 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: when they're big TV series, when they're films and they're 699 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: going to have the same people obviously regularly turning up, 700 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: they will contract certain stand ins to be the stand 701 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: in for that entire series for that actor or for 702 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: the entire film for that particular actor, because to try 703 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: and match up stand ins every day on set is 704 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: just a nightmare logistically. So the person who was Lily 705 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: Collins stand in did not want to do these intimate 706 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: two days of stand in work with Warren Baty stand in. 707 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: And so I get this call, Elka, Elka, you're the 708 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: same size as Lily Collins. I'm thinking, I wish no, 709 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: oh bless you. But she's like five five. I'm five six, 710 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: and you know, height is really important with being a 711 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: stand in, and you know, but they knew I'd brown hair, 712 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: brown eyes and everything, and they said, you know, we 713 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: just need you at Sunset Gower Studios, like right now. 714 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 3: The stand in hasn't turned up. It's gonna be it's 715 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: gonna be a long day. And it's, you know, this 716 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: untitled Warren Bady film, and that I was like, I 717 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: haven't showered. I was just gonna all I had on 718 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: today was the gym. It's my first day. Okay, I'm 719 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: coming right now. And they're like, because they're like we 720 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: don't care, just come here without having a shower, we'll 721 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: saw you out. So I turned up on set and 722 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: as soon as I went into the sound stage, everyone 723 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: was like, oh, you're the saving grace and I'm like, wow, 724 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: it's like I'm the star of the movie. 725 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: You know. 726 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: They clearly just needed this stand in so desperately. And 727 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: I came in and I met Larren babies stand in 728 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, what on earth is going on? 729 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: He said, oh, you know, it's an intimate two days. 730 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: And to be honest, the other standing is called in sick. 731 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 3: She told me yesterday she's not going to come in 732 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: because she's not comfortable with me in these intimate scenes. 733 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, but a stand in for an 734 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: intimate scene is you're not being intimate. You're just helping 735 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: them line up the shot. Yeah, I'm not taking my 736 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: clothes off or anything. And he's like no, but you know, 737 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 3: she thinks I'm weird and stuff. And he was the 738 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: nicest guy, you know, he was probably on the spectrum 739 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 3: and just so lovely, and for whatever reason that made 740 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: her feel awkward. I didn't see any reason why you 741 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't think these people were all lovely. And so they 742 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: introduced me to Lily Collins and. 743 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: She was like thank you. 744 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 3: Eh, she was so lovely and she was like, oh 745 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 3: my god, Elka, thank you so much. And I'm like, 746 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: oh my god. And I was like, I'm not going 747 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: to fit into that dress. But they were like, she 748 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 3: was in this white dress and they just shoved this 749 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 3: white shirt on me and stuff and said, don't worry, 750 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: no one would fit into that dress that she's wearing. 751 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: And then Warren Batty came up and said thank you, 752 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: and he said, as it turns out, I would like 753 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: to stand in for myself. And I was like what. 754 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: And so this guy Richard, who was the stand in, 755 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm fine, getting four hundred bucks for 756 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: the day sitting here drinking coffee fine. 757 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: And so. 758 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 3: I spent the next eight hours sitting on Warren Batty's lap, 759 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: straddling him, sitting on his lap. Our noses were touching, 760 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 3: we were staring into each other's eyes, and we spoke 761 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: about like our whole life stories to each other, about 762 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: so many life experiences. He told me about how you 763 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: know your name reminds me of Elkie Summers and at 764 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: the time I was living with Elkie Summers, my namesake, 765 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 3: famous German actress, and he was like. 766 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: Get out, you are not. 767 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, yep, I'm named after her and my landlord 768 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: and he's like, oh my gosh. And so you know, 769 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: Annette Benning was on set ed Harris Alec Baldwin and 770 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: seeing him work as a director, writer, producer an actor 771 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: at the same time was just magical to have those 772 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 3: next two days, because they asked me back the next day. 773 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 3: They said, look, we'd prefer Warren Warren, mister Batty. Actually, 774 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: mister Baty would like you to come back tomorrow. And 775 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 3: he said he really loves your energy on set and 776 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: everyone really appreciates your positive nature. And I was like, 777 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 3: oh my god, yeah, I'm there, like yeah, So the 778 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: next day I had like ten hours or something on set. 779 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 2: Again. 780 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 3: The girl that had called in sick, was absolutely beside herself. 781 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 3: She found out that Warren Batty stood in for himself 782 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 3: and she missed out on that opportunity. 783 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: And she was calling, you know, I've got a contract. 784 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: You can't get rid of me. I need to come back. 785 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 3: And they wanted me for the rest of the film, 786 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: but contractually, yeah, they brought her back. But I mean, 787 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: if there was ever a moment, I've got another one 788 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: like that. But if there was ever a moment to 789 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: wake up in the morning in La and never ever, 790 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: ever having any idea how your day would turn out 791 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 3: and it turns out that wildly different. 792 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: That was the day. It was just magical. 793 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: And when the film came out, you know, and made 794 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 3: it to the Oscars, and it was the you know, 795 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: for anyone who doesn't know, it's when Warren Batty had 796 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: that film come out and he was nominated or I 797 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: think a few people were nominated in the film for 798 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: different categories. 799 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: He was on stage and he read out the wrong winner. 800 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 3: That was that year when he said La La Land 801 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 3: one and it was I think Moonlight Moon. 802 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: That was that year that his film had been a 803 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: part of the Oscars. And so. 804 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 3: I went to a sag screening like a year later 805 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 3: or so of that film. A friend said, I've got 806 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: I've got a spare ticket to see Rules Don't Apply 807 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: and Warrernt, Warren Bady, Internette Benning, and Lily Collins are 808 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 3: going to be there afterwards doing a Q and A. 809 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: Do you want to come? And I was like yeah. 810 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: And so right at the end of the Q and A, 811 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: I said to my friend Susan, I'm going to go 812 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 3: down the front and say hello. 813 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: And she was like, would they remember you? And I 814 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: was like yeah. 815 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 3: And they were all saying hi to fans and stuff, 816 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 3: and I just stood there right at the back waiting 817 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 3: and then Lily went Elka and I went and she 818 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 3: said come here, and then she said Warren Elk is here. 819 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 3: And it was just such a magical moment. And my 820 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 3: friend was like, holy shit, Warren Baty, Lily Polms know 821 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 3: who you are. And I was like, I was sitting 822 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: on his lap for like sixteen hours. Didn't you tell 823 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: his you could count his eyelights? 824 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I said to him. 825 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: I was. I said to him, the Warren Batty eyelashes, 826 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 3: they're so beautiful. I can count your eyelashes, mister Baty, 827 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: And he said, how many. 828 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: Do I have? 829 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: I was like one, two, three, Like he was just 830 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 3: the nicest, most humble, beautiful man and dropped dead gorgeous. 831 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched the trailer and I was like, oh 832 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: my goodness, you had just been pinching yourself. 833 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 3: Four weeks after. I just couldn't all day. I was like, 834 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: what am I doing here? What am I doing here? 835 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: What am I doing here? And I remember calling my 836 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 3: parents that night and I was like, ask me what 837 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: I did today? Asked me what I did today? And 838 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: they're like, I don't know, we can't guess. I was like, 839 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 3: I sat on Warren Baty's lap all day. 840 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: They're like what, yeah, what. I'm like, yeah, I know, 841 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: it's crazy. 842 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: So good you said there was one other day? Story 843 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: like that was the other day. Yeah. 844 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: So that was really early on when I moved to 845 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 3: LA I'd done voiceover work in Australia and I had 846 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: just my Aussie demo reel and I had that attached 847 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: to my actor's access and I got a call in 848 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 3: the morning and it was come to Warner Brothers right 849 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 3: now for an audition for a voiceover for the movie 850 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: Pacific rim Awesome. They had hired an actress who had 851 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: booked the role and done the recording for the movie, 852 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: but she was on the wrong visa, so legally they 853 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: had to go over her work again. And I had 854 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: just got my green card and they wanted the green 855 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: card for that particular studio, which is not uncommon for 856 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,479 Speaker 3: that studio, and so I was like, oh my gosh, yeah, 857 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 3: And I called my agent and said, I got this 858 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 3: directly from casting. They said, wow, she's a huge casting director. 859 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 3: Just yeah, go in to Warner Brothers. Because it just 860 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: came directly from casting. I think I self submitted or 861 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: something and forgot about it. So I went in and 862 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm doing the audition at Warner Brothers. 863 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: Cool, okay. 864 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 3: And I go in and there's sixteen oussy actors sitting 865 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 3: around a table. We're all in the waiting room, and 866 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 3: the casting director came out and said, okay, so you're 867 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 3: here for the movie Pacific rim. Here are the sides. 868 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 3: Each of you is going to go into that room. 869 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 3: You're going to read the first bit of text, which 870 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: was this big chunk, and you're going to read the 871 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: second bit, and they're going to be two completely different reads. 872 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 3: One is you're reading in a studio is this TV anchor? 873 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 3: The next one is you're being chased by the monster 874 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: and you're talking into a mike, screaming, running, huffing, puffing 875 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: down the street at the same time trying to do 876 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: this big news blob. Okay, cool, And she said, you're 877 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: just going to go in one at a time. 878 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: Go in. It's a big cinema sized screen that you're going. 879 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 3: To be looking at the footage when you're reading, and 880 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: you're going to have the whole set up in there. 881 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: This is what it looks like. You'll be fine. 882 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: The engineer is going to be at the back giving 883 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 3: you directions through the glass. 884 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 885 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 3: Cool. And then she said just one at a time, 886 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: line up and go in after the one after the other, 887 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 3: like great. And then just before the first girl went in, 888 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 3: she said, oh, one other thing. The director in the 889 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 3: room is Giamo del Toro, and you had to go 890 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 3: in and an audition for Germo and he just dumpans Labyrinth, 891 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 3: which I loved. 892 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: I was like and I. 893 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 3: Was like, what am I doing here? And everyone in 894 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 3: the waiting room's like what. There are a few of 895 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 3: us from Australia just laughing our heads off. Going what 896 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 3: is going on? We went in one at a time. 897 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 3: Right at the end, they let everyone go except two 898 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 3: of us. They said, two of you stay back. You 899 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 3: have to go in again. And it was myself and 900 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 3: this other girl and Giamo had us go in and 901 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 3: do it. Gave this different direction and he then made 902 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: us wait outside and they said, whoever books this is 903 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 3: going to go in and record it right now and 904 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 3: it's going to be in the film because we just 905 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 3: need the We needed recorded, yes, straight away. So then 906 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: Gimo came out and he said, Anika, Elka, I'll never 907 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: forget the other girl's name. I'll never forget her name. 908 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 3: And he said, which one of you is the smoker? 909 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 3: And you know, part of me thought not me. I'm 910 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 3: the health conscious, always done everything right, you know. 911 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: And Anika said that's me. 912 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: I know. 913 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. And he looked at me and he said, 914 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: this is the first. 915 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 3: Time and maybe the only time in your life you're 916 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 3: going to miss out on something because you don't smoke 917 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 3: a packa day. 918 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: Oh, because that gave it. 919 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 3: He needed the rasp in her voice because it was 920 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 3: a bit broken. But he pulled me aside and he 921 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 3: gave me a huge hug. Ah, he said, give me 922 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 3: a hug. You have an enormous career in voiceover, my dear. 923 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 3: And you know, since then, I've heard people who've said 924 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 3: the contrary, and I've done voice over work and since 925 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 3: then done a lot of training and stuff like that. 926 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: But it's interesting how that hearing that from him, I 927 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 3: still let hearing other negative feedback from other people overshadow 928 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: Gmo del Toro telling me, oh no, you know, it's 929 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 3: such a mind game in this industry and about confidence. 930 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: But having that moment was just such a gift. It 931 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 3: was just such a beautiful It was such an exciting day. 932 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: I was so proud of myself. I just gave it 933 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 3: everything I had. I knew I did a great job. 934 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 3: It didn't matter that I didn't book it. It was just 935 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 3: such a great experience. 936 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't wait. We're going to hike after 937 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: this a lot more stories. Okay, So I've just got 938 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: some questions for people that might be in Australia or 939 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: kind of like thinking a bit like when you were 940 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: thirty three, and like, okay, I think I want to 941 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: take the plunge. It is so different to Australia heres, 942 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: So like what would you say some of the differences 943 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: working in Australia versus working here. 944 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,479 Speaker 3: First of all, there's not a lot of lead time 945 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: for auditions. You know, sometimes the same day. Yeah, I've 946 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 3: had auditions for you know, Young and the Restless or something, 947 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: and it's like, you need to be one hundred percent 948 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 3: off book in two hours, and this self tape has 949 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 3: to be in and it's a big scene. A lot 950 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 3: of the time you're holding your sides, but sometimes they 951 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 3: will say no, sorry, just one hundred percent off book, 952 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 3: and so you just need to drop everything. And you 953 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 3: need people in your life that understand that that's just 954 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 3: the way the cookie crumbles sometimes and you wish it 955 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: wasn't like that, but you've got to be in it 956 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 3: to win it. 957 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 2: It is not as it's not. 958 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 3: La is not a city as full of people that 959 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 3: want to use you as people think. But it absolutely 960 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 3: depends on who you are as a person. If you're 961 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 3: a giver and a taker, you're going to meet givers 962 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 3: and takers. If you're a taker and you're here to 963 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 3: just meet people and take, take, take, you're going to 964 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 3: meet takers. It is what you put in that you 965 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 3: get out. So it's you know, like attracts like. We 966 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 3: always hear that, and I've had the experience of people 967 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 3: wanting to use me, and what I've had to do 968 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 3: is go, but how am I treating the city? How 969 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 3: am I treating other people? How am I like? It 970 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 3: takes a lot of looking in the mirror and understanding 971 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 3: that you need to be really self sufficient emotionally as 972 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 3: well as self sufficient financially unless you've got you know, 973 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 3: I don't have parents that pay for anything for me 974 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 3: or whatever. I wasn't raised like that, and I'm grateful 975 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 3: for that because I'm very self sufficient and you need 976 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 3: to have you need to have contingency plans, you need 977 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 3: to You can't go in a room with any sense 978 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 3: of desperation because they're going to smell it. 979 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 2: You know. 980 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 3: I love that I have a second career, so it 981 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 3: enables me to be more focused in LA on just 982 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 3: the work, not the money. Definitely, what I noticed and 983 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 3: one thing that really appealed to me was it is 984 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 3: fair game over here. It is fair game, like I 985 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 3: do sadly feel and this is not the fault of 986 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 3: the casting directors, but I do feel in Australia we 987 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 3: see the same actors on TV a lot of the time, 988 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 3: and I know casting are bound by directors, who are 989 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 3: bound by investors who just know the familiar faces. 990 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: So believe me, I believe that. 991 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 3: If I was a casting person in Australia, I'd be 992 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 3: dying to discover that new person as well. But it's 993 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 3: got such a ripple effect and as a result, now 994 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 3: we've got this industry which is so cyclical that unfortunately, 995 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 3: when I go back to Australia, I see the same 996 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 3: faces on TV that I saw ten years ago. But 997 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 3: when I audition here, someone can go, who the hell's 998 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 3: that She's perfect? We don't care, We don't know who 999 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: she is because they're always on the hunt for the 1000 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: next big thing. So it's very important to remind people that, 1001 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, if you've done something that really propels your 1002 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 3: work to the next level and shows you in a 1003 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 3: new light to how someone may have first met you, 1004 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 3: they need to re meet you as that new person 1005 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 3: because now you could be the next big thing. People 1006 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 3: don't want you until someone wants you. We see that 1007 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 3: in every country, almost in life, in so many cultures. 1008 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 3: So you have to keep yourself exciting, current be doing 1009 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 3: things better in yourself. But it's open slather. It's open 1010 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 3: slather here. I've had auditions here for you know, gone 1011 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 3: down to the final round for TV series and things 1012 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 3: and seen series regulars from Australia who are friends of mine, 1013 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: and I've had someone say to me, what the hell are. 1014 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: You doing here? 1015 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 1016 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 3: No, yeah, And I've said, well, I'm here for my 1017 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 3: final callback, but what on earth are you doing here? 1018 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: More importantly, because. 1019 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 3: I've gone, hang on a second, Yeah, I'm as worthy 1020 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 3: of being here as much as you are, because we 1021 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 3: obviously both did the work, and so I really feel 1022 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 3: that it's about It's definitely about preparation. You can try 1023 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 3: winging and get a little bit ahead in Australia to 1024 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,439 Speaker 3: a degree, but this is, as my friend Graham, who's 1025 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 3: a great actor over here, said to me years ago 1026 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 3: when I arrived here, this is the Olympics of acting. 1027 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it so true. 1028 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: Everyone's a you know, the best actor from wherever they 1029 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 3: were in their little club and their little group and 1030 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 3: their little suburb whatever that they are the people that 1031 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 3: are here. 1032 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 2: So that's your ground zero. 1033 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 3: Now you've got to be better than the best because 1034 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 3: you need to break through and be recognized and so 1035 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 3: I think preparation is so important, and it's honestly for 1036 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 3: a lot of working in the visa industry that I 1037 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 3: do as well. 1038 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: I see a lot of. 1039 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 3: People want to crawl before they can walk, and people say, yeah, 1040 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 3: but you did it, and I'm like, yeah, but I 1041 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: was acting for thirteen years, yeah, in so many things, 1042 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 3: hustling my butt off. I wasn't acting for five minutes totally. 1043 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 3: So you really just got to accept that, like everything 1044 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 3: in life, you just need to do the work. You know, 1045 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: for me it was slow and steady wins the race. 1046 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 3: Just believe in yourself, keep going, don't listen to anyone 1047 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 3: who's going to pull you back and put you down. 1048 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: But definitely if you believe you can do it, and 1049 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 3: you are willing to do the work, and you are 1050 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 3: prepared enough and you know that you can survive emotionally 1051 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 3: and get through those tough times. Because really, this is 1052 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 3: the industry where it's very rare to meet someone who says, 1053 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 3: I work in banking. Yeah, you know, I work as 1054 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 3: a stockbroker. You're meeting people who are on a parallel path, 1055 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 3: which is they're on a path like you, which means 1056 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: they could cancel on you at any moment for that audition. 1057 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 3: So you need to be okay being on your own. Yes, definitely, 1058 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 3: And that's a gift in itself because you're going to 1059 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 3: grow and develop because you're going to be forced to 1060 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 3: look in the mirror a lot quicker. So that's one 1061 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 3: of the biggest advantages of it. 1062 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: A good friend of mine who's also Australian that I 1063 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: was telling you about, who's an acting coach over here, 1064 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: caught up a few days ago and I said, I'm 1065 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: really confronted at the moment because i can feel that 1066 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm changing and growing so much, and I love that, 1067 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: but it's still confronting because you're changing. And he looked 1068 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 1: at me and he goes, Babe, you'll never be the 1069 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: same after this. Could would you agree one hundred percent? 1070 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: I am so different? 1071 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 3: And I'm telling you that I would not have the 1072 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 3: self belief and the self love that I now have 1073 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 3: if I didn't have to go through this journey that 1074 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 3: La put right in my damn face, if I liked 1075 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 3: it or not, because going home was not an option 1076 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 3: for me. I had decided that you were going to 1077 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 3: go through the thick of the crap. I don't care 1078 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: if you have to be in the fetal position, crying 1079 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 3: every night for months to get through the worst of 1080 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 3: the worst of the pain, of the fear of abandonment, 1081 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 3: of not being loved, of breakups on your own, of 1082 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 3: all of this, of rejection, of whatever it had to 1083 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 3: The turning point was me was was when it had 1084 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 3: to be the joy was in the journey. It could 1085 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 3: not be about the hop It had to be that 1086 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 3: every audition was a joy, every opportunity to meet another 1087 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 3: person was a joy. Everything was a gift because every 1088 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 3: booking became gravy. 1089 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, just added yes, I wouldn't have. 1090 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 3: Been confronted with those challenges at the same speed at 1091 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 3: which I was forced to in La So I just 1092 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 3: think I need to be grateful for that. I could 1093 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 3: have had a completely different life in Melbourne. And I 1094 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 3: could have had a great life in Melbourne. Oh mels great, 1095 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 3: great coffee, Yeah, yeah, oh great, can't get past coffee. 1096 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 3: Just so many things that I missah. But at the 1097 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 3: same time, the self growth and the self acceptance and 1098 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 3: the taking responsibility for my own crap. 1099 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: It was. 1100 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 3: It's inevitable that it has to happen in us all 1101 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 3: the time unless we choose to never go there, but 1102 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 3: for me, I wanted to be I want to be 1103 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 3: the best person I can be in life, so this 1104 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 3: is where it. 1105 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 2: Had to happen. 1106 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: Clearly, I love it. Final question, YEA, what is your 1107 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: advice for someone that wants to act that might be 1108 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: newer in their journey. 1109 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 3: I think the best thing I can say when people 1110 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 3: ask me, for example, where should I start? I meet 1111 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 3: a lot of people who say, I really, I've always 1112 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 3: wanted to be an actor, but I'm too scared. I 1113 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 3: met a friend of mine through my other job the 1114 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 3: other day who said that, and I was like, Number one, you. 1115 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 2: Don't want to die wondering totally. 1116 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 3: If you want to know where to start, get into 1117 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 3: an acting class, don't try go get a manager or agent. 1118 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 3: Do not go and do that. You've got nothing to 1119 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 3: show them. What if they get you an audition, you 1120 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 3: are going to go I have no clue what I'm doing. 1121 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 3: For everyone that can act naturally, there is stuff that 1122 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 3: you cannot learn unless you're in a class and go, 1123 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 3: oh god, I never would have known that. Or you 1124 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 3: don't know what terms are on set, You're going to 1125 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 3: look like a moron going what's first position? 1126 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 2: What's what? 1127 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: What? 1128 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 2: The lighting's important? 1129 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: Where? 1130 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 2: How what? You're that close up? I don't need to 1131 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 2: be that big. What huh? 1132 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 3: It's different for film, for multikam comedy, single cam comedy. 1133 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 1134 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 3: Yes, you can be a talented actor without that training 1135 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 3: to an extent, but you need to train. Put in 1136 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 3: the hard yards, through the training at whatever school you 1137 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 3: go to. Then experience a different teacher in a different school. 1138 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 3: Then experience a different course and a different teacher in 1139 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 3: a different school. See what your groove is, See what 1140 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: style of training works for you. You're going to pick 1141 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 3: up something from everywhere. But then you're going to meet 1142 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 3: the contacts who are going to share with you their agent, 1143 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 3: their manager, the journey they went on. Then you're going 1144 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 3: to see what works for you. But don't go I 1145 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 3: want to be an actor, I'm getting an agent. Just 1146 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 3: throw yourself into class, learn the craft. It's if I 1147 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 3: came to you, Lola, and you were as I have 1148 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 3: a lot of friends who are like amazing dances, incredible, 1149 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 3: best of the best. We're in full loose, you know, 1150 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 3: And I came to you and I said to you, hey, Lola, 1151 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 3: I decided, I just decided this morning, like I'm going 1152 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 3: to do it. 1153 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a dancer. 1154 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 3: And you've had this career that's been going for years 1155 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 3: and years and you've been working your friggin' butt off, 1156 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 3: and it's not about competition, it's not about going well. 1157 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 2: You should have to struggle like I struggled, did it? No? 1158 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 3: Anyone can be that point zero one percent who just 1159 00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,399 Speaker 3: gets the lucky break. 1160 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 2: Of course, but you'd be like. 1161 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to learn to dance because you don't 1162 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 3: know what you don't know. 1163 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,439 Speaker 2: Oh but I've watched hip hop on TV. 1164 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 3: But if I can copy them, yeah, to an extent totally. 1165 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 2: I would say, throw yourself into. 1166 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 3: Training and when you really find your voice as an 1167 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 3: actor and you know who you are, what kind of actor? 1168 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 3: Right with stand up comedy, I had to find my 1169 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 3: rhythm and stand up I had to find what kind 1170 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 3: of stand up am I There's a million and one 1171 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 3: different stand ups and you know, but who's Elka. Throw 1172 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 3: yourself into training and let it just naturally come from there. 1173 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: I love it. This is perfect advice. You're amazing. Oh, 1174 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: thank you so much. That was so much fun to 1175 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: chat to. Thank you so much for having me oh mate, 1176 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: I could talk to you all day. I love RTE, 1177 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: big love. Thank you Elkaberry, You're amazing. 1178 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 1179 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1180 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation 1181 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. 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