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Speaker 1: Jum Mission with James and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: I've been reading about this woman who opened the New

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Speaker 2: York Times and she's looking in the wedding section and

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Speaker 2: there's a very nice wedding announcement. It's beautiful, a beautiful photo.

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Speaker 2: They talk about how they met at the gym and

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Speaker 2: it was lovely and blah blah blah. And she realizes

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Speaker 2: that that in fact is her ex husband and the

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Speaker 2: time that they were dating. It says he was while

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Speaker 2: he was married to her. He claims he hadn't been

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Speaker 2: married before. So this is a New York Times article.

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Speaker 2: They're both quite stylish people, so they're featured in the

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Speaker 2: wedding section. They say they started their relationship in January

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. He said he'd never been married. They said that,

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Speaker 2: you know, they met a super cute meeting at the gym.

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Speaker 2: She was one of the few women, he said, who

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Speaker 2: lifted weights and she was stunning. So they talk about

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Speaker 2: their courtship blah blah blah. So he's saying he met

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Speaker 2: his wife in January twenty seventeen. This woman says, it's

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Speaker 2: interesting because I was married to him in January twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: We divorced a few months after that, and she didn't

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Speaker 2: know why their relationship suddenly dissolved, but that order to.

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Speaker 3: Do it, that order to do it getting another wife.

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Speaker 2: But obviously she didn't know he'd been cheating on her.

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Speaker 2: And this new wife now is going to find out

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Speaker 2: because this woman has gone public with this story.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so she wouldn't have known.

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Speaker 2: This is now saying, well, you know what, he's been

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Speaker 2: married before, and he was married.

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Speaker 3: During beat me. I didn't know that. That's curious, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Let's discuss it beat me. I didn't know that the

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Speaker 2: relationship edition great, what have you found out as a

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Speaker 2: partner being to prison as a partner had a relationship

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Speaker 2: with your cousin and you've only recently found out.

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Speaker 3: You know Jimy, your friend. Yes, he told me that

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Speaker 3: your husband went to jail at twenty one oh because

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Speaker 3: he killed someone in a car accident by accident in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand drunk and went to jail. And this is

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Speaker 3: in the early days of our relationship when I first

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Speaker 3: met you, right, And did you believe that? I just said, really, yes,

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Speaker 3: I don't mention it, just keep it on the downline.

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Speaker 3: And so every time I saw and for about five

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Speaker 3: years I thought Harley had done jail time.

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Speaker 2: Well those tats are his?

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Speaker 3: Are That's what I thought? And I used to think,

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Speaker 3: how do I I guess it was an accident. I

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Speaker 3: was young.

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Speaker 2: Jim has done this to other friends of it. We've

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Speaker 2: met mutual friends through him, who confessed later on that

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Speaker 2: he had told them that we were highly religious at

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Speaker 2: some part of a cent.

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Speaker 3: Well you're not.

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Speaker 2: They told you that too, and not well how that

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Speaker 2: beat me?

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Speaker 3: Would have thought that a real estate agent would be

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Speaker 3: full of crap?

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Speaker 2: Beat me? The relationship addition, what did you discover? Carolyn's

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Speaker 2: joined us? What did you discover? Carolyn?

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Speaker 4: Hi, James and Amanda. I was divorced and I had

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Speaker 4: two sons, and my ex husband had Pastordy every second weekend,

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Speaker 4: and unbeknownst to me, he took a job in Abo

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Speaker 4: and I lived in Sydney with the boys, and he

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Speaker 4: kept his home in Sydney and he'd fly back every

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Speaker 4: second weekend and pick up the boys and take them

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Speaker 4: to his place. And we were none the wiser. I

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Speaker 4: found out when I saw his profile on LinkedIn a

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Speaker 4: few years ago.

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Speaker 2: Why did he keep it secret?

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Speaker 4: He's a very secretive man and the.

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Speaker 2: Kids didn't know that he wasn't there other times. No, no,

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Speaker 2: So if you had to change your dates up for custody,

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Speaker 2: that was never going to happen because he wasn't here.

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Speaker 4: No. I never changed will very rarely changed them. It

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Speaker 4: was mainly him that changed them. So it suited suited him.

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Speaker 4: He could just do what he wanted and I would

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Speaker 4: just pick up his slack.

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Speaker 3: How extraordinary grind an axe as well?

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Speaker 2: It actually move. That's intriguing. Maybe he's a spy?

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Speaker 3: Is he a spy?

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Speaker 2: Carolyn?

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Speaker 4: Definitely not.

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Speaker 3: That was That's typical spy, though, I'm I'm a spy.

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Speaker 3: That's something you'd do.

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Speaker 2: Julie is here?

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Speaker 4: Hi, Julia?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Are you guys?

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Speaker 3: Very well?

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Speaker 2: Beat me? I didn't know that. What did you discover?

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Speaker 1: Look, I am still happily married to this man, and

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Speaker 1: we do have three beautiful kids. However, we got married

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Speaker 1: probably two years into our relationship, and he always told

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Speaker 1: me that this on his arm was a symbol of

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Speaker 1: peace and the date his mother passed away, and I

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Speaker 1: was believed obviously his mother passed away cancer. It was believable. Sure,

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Speaker 1: two days before our wedding, he decided to tell me, well,

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Speaker 1: now that we're getting married, I should dress up. That's

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Speaker 1: my ex wife's name, and the date we got married.

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Speaker 3: I know that.

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Speaker 1: The funniest thing was the date was the day before

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Speaker 1: our actual wedding. Oh, thank god, really get married on

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Speaker 1: the same day.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: It was always a reminder for him. No, I've got

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours to buy flowers.

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Speaker 1: Six months after we got married, that tatoo was well

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Speaker 1: and truly gone.

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Speaker 3: Was it? Was it gone completely? Or did he change it?

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Speaker 3: Did he turn it into something else?

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Speaker 1: We tried to start getting rid of it, and it

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Speaker 1: was just going to be a very long process. So

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Speaker 1: we just kind of, you know, tweaked the word, like

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Speaker 1: tweak the dates and just made it like a like

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Speaker 1: a a design around.

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Speaker 3: His reason, like the Johnny Depp remember Johnny Depp with

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Speaker 3: when We're known a writer and he changed it to whino.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is you've.

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Speaker 3: Got what a great solution? And has joined as Hello, Anne.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Jontine, Amanda, how.

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Speaker 4: Are you right?

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Speaker 2: What didn't you know? Anne?

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Speaker 4: What didn't I know?

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Speaker 5: I met this this guy who had really bad burns

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Speaker 5: on his legs and his body, and we we we

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Speaker 5: got married eventually and had a few children, and then

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Speaker 5: I was content. I was always questioning why he had

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Speaker 5: how he got these burns on his legs. And he

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Speaker 5: told me that his wife and children and then him

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Speaker 5: had been in a car accident. May been burnt to death,

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Speaker 5: I know. And then after we'd had twelve thirteen years

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Speaker 5: of marriage, I was contacted and found out his wife

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Speaker 5: and children were still alive.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, So why did he say that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: He was a very secretive person, a controlling person, and

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Speaker 5: he just liked to keep everything secret. But the thing

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Speaker 5: was his family lied for him as well, because I'd

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Speaker 5: met some of them and they none of them ever

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Speaker 5: told me that she was still alive, or the kids

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Speaker 5: were still alive or anything.

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Speaker 2: He denied the existence of his own children. So in

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Speaker 2: a relct, did you have children with him?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I've got two boys with him, So that must have.

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Speaker 2: Been extraordinary when you had children. To think, this poor

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Speaker 2: man has grown so much, and you must have given

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Speaker 2: him a lot of you know, I don't know a

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Speaker 2: thought about how he was feeling about this.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Hollywood had a lot of joy. But the sad

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Speaker 5: thing was we had a daughter and she was killed

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Speaker 5: in a car accident when she was three months old

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Speaker 5: before I had the two boys. God, so he wasn't

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Speaker 5: a nice man.

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Speaker 3: No, so clearly I have two lovely boys. But you've

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Speaker 3: obviously moved on from him, Yes, I have.

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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 3: You know what an extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Tail The Secret Lives.

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Speaker 3: Of people, Secret Lives of such folks

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Speaker 4: With join Z and Amanda