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Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Young Playbook Podcast. Big episode coming out
Speaker 1: for you today with two special guests. But first let's
Speaker 1: bring in our ever reliable co host Kane Richardson.
Speaker 2: How's it going today?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 4: It's good, Josh. Good to be back. Less to talk
Speaker 4: about for Australia this week.
Speaker 5: The boys at home and in their own beds unfortunately,
Speaker 5: So yeah, looking forward to this and showing the fart
Speaker 5: about some teams who probably don't normally get to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, massive episode coming up today. We've got two special guests,
Speaker 1: as I've mentioned off for the top, Pommey and Bangwa,
Speaker 1: the legendary broadcaster from Zimbabwe.
Speaker 2: He's over there in India, so.
Speaker 1: He's going to give us a bit of a lowdown
Speaker 1: on what's happening in that tournament post Australia. And then
Speaker 1: we've also got Xavier Doherty, the World Cup winning spinner.
Speaker 1: Now Match referee. He's going to be joining the show
Speaker 1: a bit later to talk about some state stuff and
Speaker 1: what happened back in his day and his views on
Speaker 1: spin bowling in Australia at the minute, which has been
Speaker 1: a bit of a talking point after the Ashes series.
Speaker 4: Did you say match referee?
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: I wasn't aware of that. When did that happen?
Speaker 2: Just this season?
Speaker 1: He'll fill you in in just a few moments.
Speaker 3: Rich.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's moved into a new phase of his cricketing life.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's something you could look at it down the track.
Speaker 4: Hadn't thought about it? That was a David Boone thing,
Speaker 4: wasn't it? He for years.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he still does, but yeah, there
Speaker 5: you go. Probably guys think about umpiring and media and stuff,
Speaker 5: but probably come for your seats in the match. So
Speaker 5: look forward to hearing from X.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the weekly winner. We didn't do it
Speaker 1: last week because there wasn't a lot to cheer about,
Speaker 1: but this week I just think we've got a few things,
Speaker 1: so why don't we start with your winner of this
Speaker 1: week Again?
Speaker 5: This segment's always teetering on the edge of surviving every week,
Speaker 5: so I've given it some thought with that note that
Speaker 5: we want to keep the weekly winner going, so I
Speaker 5: had too just in case you went first. But I'll
Speaker 5: go to Sammy Harper for mine. For his shield exploits.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was in the past week
Speaker 5: since we last recorded, but I'll go with it anyway,
Speaker 5: one hundred and nineteen and one hundred and forty one
Speaker 5: not out over in the West, carrying on his BBL
Speaker 5: form where he was striking at obscene numbers and ended
Speaker 5: my career on Boxing Day. So I'll always have a
Speaker 5: little sweet feeling for Sammy Harfer about doing that. But yeah,
Speaker 5: he's exploits in that game. He's obviously as I said,
Speaker 5: continued his form on from BBL, So a worthy weekly winner.
Speaker 1: For mine, definitely, and twin tons in shefferd Shard cricket
Speaker 1: is pretty rare. Something happened five times in the past decade,
Speaker 1: So can you name them? I did look them up
Speaker 1: earlier in the week. There was Jake Weatherold, Alex Dolan,
Speaker 1: Sam Constace and Daniel Hughes. There are only four others
Speaker 1: to do it, so joins a pretty select group, there, doesn't.
Speaker 5: He absolutely yeah, and has thrown up to the top
Speaker 5: of the order as well, so to do it in
Speaker 5: unfamiliar somewhat standing in the order. So he's obviously just
Speaker 5: on the top of his game and he's getting to
Speaker 5: that age now where he can really be confident in
Speaker 5: what he's doing. So Victoria just flying, aren't they, And
Speaker 5: just another guy who's batting well.
Speaker 1: For them And to all those batters who say, oh, opening,
Speaker 1: it's the hardest position. He's gone up there and he's
Speaker 1: just made it look easy.
Speaker 5: And on the back of Travor's head basically all summer
Speaker 5: talking about how easy it was. So those old rusted openers, yeah,
Speaker 5: they stocks are down at the moment, aren't they? For
Speaker 5: you know, the one hundred years of Kreuger. How they've
Speaker 5: said how hard it is. It's basically everyone's thrown that
Speaker 5: scrap book out and starting again smoking mirrors.
Speaker 1: It's dissipated all of a sudden, the smoke screens down.
Speaker 1: So sorry, Openers, not a good look my weekly winner
Speaker 1: I've gone for. Mitchell Stark slotted into the Channel seven
Speaker 1: broadcast yesterday as we record this in Brisbane and just
Speaker 1: absolutely looked the piece, didn't there. He just says all
Speaker 1: the right things. He's a smooth, smooth, smooth operator. And
Speaker 1: when he does eventually hang up the boots in all
Speaker 1: three formats, he's got that commentary gig lined up.
Speaker 5: I Reckon naturally lends itself done. Know the greats always
Speaker 5: tend to have a good insight into the game. But also,
Speaker 5: I mean he's for the women's side of the game. Well,
Speaker 5: to have your wife who's played as much cricket as
Speaker 5: a Lissa has, so he's got good insights into, you know,
Speaker 5: the different forms of male and female crickets. So he
Speaker 5: just loves cricket, doesn't He retires from t twenties and
Speaker 5: then I'm not going to stay at home and unwind.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go hit the com box and too
Speaker 5: around with the females. Obviously he's doing it to see
Speaker 5: a Lissa as much as he can. So yeah, but
Speaker 5: you're right, natural, I'm not sure he loves the attention though,
Speaker 5: so maybe we'll have to work on that. He always
Speaker 5: tends to know, likes, you know, kind of just flying under.
Speaker 4: The radar a little bit, so.
Speaker 5: Maybe he wants to get himself out there a bit more.
Speaker 5: So good stuff for Starcky.
Speaker 1: Well, he can get the co commentator is to you know,
Speaker 1: ask him good questions about his career and stuff, but
Speaker 1: he normally tends to you know, yeah shy away from
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, doesn't he. So maybe he'll be
Speaker 1: looking to do the lead calling in future. Go down
Speaker 1: the Adam gilchristpath.
Speaker 5: The captain of the commentary team. Yeah, a similar to
Speaker 5: you and this set up. I don't think you have
Speaker 5: to give him some tips and advice on that.
Speaker 1: It's stucky. I know he listens to it. To the
Speaker 1: fold car. All right, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: to get a word from our sponsors and when we
Speaker 1: come back, we'll be talking to broadcaster Pammy and Bangwa
Speaker 1: all the way from Mumbai. Well, interest has diminished in
Speaker 1: Australia since Australia were knocked out of the T twenty
Speaker 1: World Cup, but there's still plenty going on in India
Speaker 1: and Sri Lanka. So we've called in broadcasting royalty Pommy
Speaker 1: and Bangwa to give us the update. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Unplayable Podcast, Pummy, Hey Joe, a very well, thank you mate. Now,
Speaker 1: this tournament has already thrown up quite a few surprises,
Speaker 1: but it must be tough to go past Zimbabwe beating
Speaker 1: Australia in terms of your favorite so.
Speaker 6: Far, Yeah, it would be a favorite, but kind of
Speaker 6: I wouldn't and I'm not diminishing that in any way
Speaker 6: when they say it's kind of doubly good in that
Speaker 6: they then beat Sri Lanka and top that group with
Speaker 6: nobody even talking about them prior to the tournament. And
Speaker 6: I suppose correctly so, because I mean, if you are
Speaker 6: to pick out which sides would come out of that group,
Speaker 6: you'd go for Sri Lanka, who are at home, and
Speaker 6: you'd go for Australia, both who are former champions. And
Speaker 6: Zimbabwe struggles, you know, in terms of the tournaments and
Speaker 6: so forth, have been there for all to see. So yeah,
Speaker 6: expectation of maybe an upset, but then not a couple
Speaker 6: of wins like that and then ending up being the
Speaker 6: team that kind of qualifies as number one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was absolutely fantastic to say from a neutral
Speaker 1: point of view. There's also that incredible super o double
Speaker 1: super over between South Africa and Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: Who saw that coming?
Speaker 6: Nobody did, and I wonder if that kind of hardened
Speaker 6: South Africa just a little bit. And not to say
Speaker 6: that they needed to aren't tough enough as a side,
Speaker 6: but I think because they've got so much experience and
Speaker 6: because when anyone looked at that group, they would have
Speaker 6: felt that, you know what, there's the expectation that Afghanistan
Speaker 6: could also go through with the World Cup being in
Speaker 6: the subcontinent, and you kind of needed to get past them.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I reckon the most most exciting TEA twenty
Speaker 6: World Cup game ever because even if it was there
Speaker 6: astrue it just a drama, was ridiculous, And I was
Speaker 6: actually doing another game. I was over in Colombo doing
Speaker 6: another game and could hardly keep a watch what was
Speaker 6: going on in our game as the other one went from.
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, this one's done, they're going to win and then.
Speaker 7: Hold on super over, hold on another super over and
Speaker 7: what's good? Only can we stop this one? Can we
Speaker 7: watch that One's a yeah? Fantastic game. And South Africa
Speaker 7: have gone on from strength to strength from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's your of you? Do you think this
Speaker 1: could be South Africa's you? They've been getting closer and
Speaker 1: closer at all these i SA tournaments. Obviously won the
Speaker 1: World Test Championship final. Are they just getting close to
Speaker 1: that white ball title?
Speaker 8: As well, I.
Speaker 3: Think you look at their team.
Speaker 6: You could have said this of them last time around,
Speaker 6: but I think gets kind of reinforced this time around,
Speaker 6: where if you look at their team, what they have
Speaker 6: is the experience of the conditions here in India because
Speaker 6: many of them play in IPL and they're not bits
Speaker 6: and pieces players. And when by bits and pieces of that,
Speaker 6: I mean they don't kind of get bits and pieces
Speaker 6: of opportunities when they're in the teams in the IPL teams.
Speaker 6: They're actually big players in all the IPL sides that
Speaker 6: they're in and they get actual opportunity and are relied
Speaker 6: upon to try and win games for them. So they've
Speaker 6: been in the big boads. They've been in just about
Speaker 6: every stadium that they're playing in, and they've therefore been
Speaker 6: able to somewhat appreciate and try and handle the pressure
Speaker 6: that's before them with the big crowds, and that's what
Speaker 6: they're going to have to handle the year. They seem
Speaker 6: to handle it pretty well against India despite being you know,
Speaker 6: before one hundreds and twenty thous on people. So yeah,
Speaker 6: you could say that, but you know how there's tournament
Speaker 6: cricket that you've got to put it together. When accounts
Speaker 6: knock out all of that is when we're really going
Speaker 6: to see whether they can. But coming here, actually I
Speaker 6: felt that India, South Africa, West Indies, I think.
Speaker 3: Now and it's just a long way out still, I
Speaker 3: believe now.
Speaker 6: The other team that you're looking at and they're going
Speaker 6: hold on they'll be dangerous is probably England because they're
Speaker 6: not playing as well as they'd like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 6: but they're still coming through games and.
Speaker 3: They might well they might well win win in the edge,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, let's see how
Speaker 3: they go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if things click for England, it could really be
Speaker 1: danger signs for the rest of the tournament.
Speaker 8: I suppose.
Speaker 1: In terms of India, they had that big loss to
Speaker 1: South Africa that you alluded to there in a meta
Speaker 1: bad it's the first tournament without row here to without Koli.
Speaker 1: Is this a danger sign for India or is that
Speaker 1: the nature of T twenty cricket where you can have
Speaker 1: an off.
Speaker 6: Day side But I think they'll admit that they're not
Speaker 6: necessarily playing as well as they kind of a couple
Speaker 6: of players not quite informed. Their skipper wasn't informed when
Speaker 6: they came in to the tournament. But he's finally got
Speaker 6: some runs. But the tournament hasn't gone as well as
Speaker 6: they'd lie. I mean, you think about that first game
Speaker 6: against the USA. They were put under the pump, and
Speaker 6: if Sky doesn't get those runs and they don't, they
Speaker 6: don't win. And I hate saying things like that because
Speaker 6: of course he's supposed to get them. Someone's supposed to
Speaker 6: bail them out. They're all in the team. They were
Speaker 6: all supposed to try and perform and get their runs
Speaker 6: and then you know, kind of formulate the win then,
Speaker 6: but it's a first loss for them in you're trying
Speaker 6: to walk up since last year, since two years ago
Speaker 6: they went and beaten and won it, and we're kind
Speaker 6: of just carrying on and suddenly they've taken it and
Speaker 6: it wasn't a slight beating.
Speaker 3: They were absolutely well.
Speaker 6: So can they come back from that is the question,
Speaker 6: and not just a question from a you know, they're
Speaker 6: good enough players. Of course, they are fantastic players, but
Speaker 6: suddenly the pressure is on them and they can't put
Speaker 6: a foot wrong. And unlike in the group stage, even
Speaker 6: when playing against Zimbabwe, if they give Zimbabwe an opportunity, Zimbabwe,
Speaker 6: you know, might turn them over. So can they kind
Speaker 6: of tread well, tread surely and ensure that they win
Speaker 6: against Zim and then they still have to win against
Speaker 6: a West Indiest side that's looking particularly good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, so, yeah, let's see how that goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the West Indies put on a huge score against
Speaker 1: Zimbabwe just the other night, but to make the Super
Speaker 1: rights must be a massive thing for Zimbabwe.
Speaker 2: What will this do for crickets?
Speaker 1: Do you think in the country, You're just always trying
Speaker 1: to take steps forward.
Speaker 6: You want to be at the at the big table,
Speaker 6: the big boys table, and winning. And by that I
Speaker 6: don't mean I mean Zimbabwe's not tested or they've had
Speaker 6: tested us since nineteen ninety three, but they've kind of
Speaker 6: fits and starts in terms of momentum for a little bit.
Speaker 6: You know, do well in one and people sort of
Speaker 6: look and then you don't and people avert their eyes.
Speaker 6: And so you want to kind of be playing at
Speaker 6: this level, even though the West Indies actually the chances
Speaker 6: inm batwere, but that's the pressure you want to be under.
Speaker 6: And here they get an opportunity in three games. Now
Speaker 6: there's the possibility it happens that way in three games
Speaker 6: in a row. But it still does a great deal
Speaker 6: for the players that are there to understand and feel
Speaker 6: the intensity of playing against those sides. And you want
Speaker 6: it to not remain as something foreign, but something that
Speaker 6: you're continually experiencing, because then you raise yourself to the
Speaker 6: level and you don't have an option. You have to
Speaker 6: something that is impossible to simulate or to replicate, and
Speaker 6: in practice is you know the pressure of big teams,
Speaker 6: good teams and the level that you're supposed to be at.
Speaker 6: So you think you're stretching this out. You think you're
Speaker 6: going as hard and as well as you can, but
Speaker 6: it's not quite there. And then suddenly, I mean, you
Speaker 6: can't find a legislate for adrenaline, for instance, you can't
Speaker 6: do twenty five thirty thousand people in a stadium. You
Speaker 6: know you've got to be there for that to be
Speaker 6: able to experience that. So, yeah, I think it'll do
Speaker 6: good things. It'll get people, more people interested, it'll get
Speaker 6: more people wanting to get a taste of bad and yeah,
Speaker 6: I hope the team can go from strength to strength
Speaker 6: with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got some absolute matchment. It is always good
Speaker 1: to watch the sort of players playing. Now everyone in Australia.
Speaker 1: He has had their say on what went wrong for
Speaker 1: a Stridia, So it might be good to get an
Speaker 1: objective point of view from someone like yourself. Where did
Speaker 1: things not quite go right for Stride do you think?
Speaker 6: And look at the Australian side, I mean champion players,
Speaker 6: but perhaps just no form. Again, Travis's head goes into
Speaker 6: the tournament without form, then you go with the injury.
Speaker 6: Such an important part of that Australian side is Travis
Speaker 6: Headen and Mitchell Marsh at the top and then the
Speaker 6: injuries also, like to to Hazel Ward is such an
Speaker 6: important player.
Speaker 3: So hold this joint to the fair as they go in.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that.
Speaker 6: The start in Sri Lanka was helpful to the Australians.
Speaker 6: I think the planning might not quite have been up
Speaker 6: to par and maybe just from a slight oversight, which
Speaker 6: I believe is right from the US.
Speaker 3: He's actually a slight overside.
Speaker 6: If you look at the team that they had, they
Speaker 6: kind of had some resources and we want ployees who
Speaker 6: can play spin. Smith was left behind because of that.
Speaker 6: You know, they had the top okay, because that's where
Speaker 6: he'd been batting, and so they didn't want to go with,
Speaker 6: you know, with the same sort of players, so.
Speaker 3: He marsh they're going to play every time.
Speaker 6: And if you have Smith as well, if you kind
Speaker 6: of to bat you know, number one or number two,
Speaker 6: because that's where he's been dating, you probably could put
Speaker 6: him in at number three, which would have probably been
Speaker 6: a better move now when you think about it in hindsight.
Speaker 3: But that's easy, right, we can. We can say that now.
Speaker 3: But when I.
Speaker 6: Look at Cameron Green, when I look at the hitters
Speaker 6: that are in the side, they need the harder, faster wickets,
Speaker 6: even if I say harder than Sri Lanka, which exists
Speaker 6: here in India. That's kind of what they would have
Speaker 6: wanted and would have felt rightly. So championside that they'll
Speaker 6: get through the group and then they'll deal with all
Speaker 6: of that when they get to India and play at
Speaker 6: one kid Is and play at Chennai which has got
Speaker 6: lots of runs this time around, and play at Delhi
Speaker 6: which is small, hard and you can wax sixes, but
Speaker 6: you got to get through the slower of.
Speaker 3: Sri Lanka first.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that kind of it happens, man, like you
Speaker 6: can get derailed it even to the best of them.
Speaker 6: Think of football World Cups where main teams pop, you know,
Speaker 6: pop out of the group stage. What's going on and
Speaker 6: all of this, it's perhaps an opportunity to kind of
Speaker 6: just have a look one to know that come in
Speaker 6: Stark Hazelwood, that trio who've been so fantastic.
Speaker 3: It's coming to an and it comes to an end
Speaker 3: for everybody.
Speaker 6: Think back to Gillespie Lee McGrath together, you know, and
Speaker 6: when that happened, it was like, oh what And as
Speaker 6: I think about it, actually from them to these guys, right,
Speaker 6: So yeah, so that's a long time going and that
Speaker 6: happens whether it's the bowling side or the or the
Speaker 6: batting side.
Speaker 3: And maybe Australia is in that time.
Speaker 1: Man, Tommy, really appreciate your time.
Speaker 8: Mate.
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, do you want to stick
Speaker 1: your neck out and tell us who are the two
Speaker 1: teams are the game?
Speaker 2: The final?
Speaker 6: I started off before the tournament, I said, India, South Africa.
Speaker 6: I'm wondering now, I'm not sure now I think South
Speaker 6: Africa has still be in the final. I'm not too
Speaker 6: sure about West Indies. But the three teams are the
Speaker 6: four teams I'm looking at. I can't do too I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go West Indians, South Africa, England, India.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the four teams I'm looking at. Might
Speaker 3: be wrong, I mean, you coming wrong. I don't mind
Speaker 3: be knowing because.
Speaker 6: I always think I wonder Paki style you sneak up
Speaker 6: on everyone.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but that's.
Speaker 6: Why we love it, right, because you go according to
Speaker 6: the fore or whatever. But in tournament picket, it's not
Speaker 6: how you start, it's what happens right at the back end.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's how it goes.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Thank you for your time, mate, and enjoy the
Speaker 1: rest of the tournament.
Speaker 3: All right, cheers job, So there you go.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Pommy and Bangala for joining us from the
Speaker 1: breakfast room at his hotel there. He was just about
Speaker 1: to jump on a flight to Chennai, so we appreciate
Speaker 1: him making the time. And yeah, those scrambled eggs they
Speaker 1: sounded good in the background. But yeah, I'm interested your
Speaker 1: thoughts here, Richo. He's a big fan of England, big
Speaker 1: fan of the West Indies. Does that sort of line
Speaker 1: up with what you're thinking as far as this tournament goes.
Speaker 5: Well, it's anyone's now, isn't it, Especially with what we've
Speaker 5: seen in the last few days with India's first game
Speaker 5: against South Africa in the group stages, so it's really
Speaker 5: blown the race wide open.
Speaker 4: They were my pick last week South Africa.
Speaker 5: So I did had a bit of a head webb
Speaker 5: when I saw that scorecard when I work up. But
Speaker 5: I also stupidly said Nicholas Puren was batting well for
Speaker 5: the West Indies. He actually isn't playing in the World Cup,
Speaker 5: is he. So I've riscen that comment. I think I
Speaker 5: might have had a dream that he came out of retirement,
Speaker 5: but obviously that was someone else. Yeah, boots on the
Speaker 5: ground tend to know a bit better than what we
Speaker 5: do back here, so I dares England surprised me a
Speaker 5: little bit. But you're also what he said was they're
Speaker 5: not playing that well and they're winning, which is always
Speaker 5: a good sign.
Speaker 4: And that's.
Speaker 5: Historically Australian teams have always had that motto as long
Speaker 5: as they're doing enough in this stage of World Cups
Speaker 5: and then you kind of want to play your best
Speaker 5: cricket when the whips are cracking in the finals. So
Speaker 5: hurst to say, but he's probably right. I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: they're the ones West Indies again, batting well, they two
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty the other night against Himbabwe, so they're
Speaker 5: in form. And yes, so Africa India is the one
Speaker 5: if they can still manage to make it, which obviously can,
Speaker 5: but it's going to be hard.
Speaker 4: So they're probably the four, aren't they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the West Indies they just have so much firepower,
Speaker 1: but they do seem like a side that if they're
Speaker 1: off they're going to be totally hopeless, but when they're on,
Speaker 1: they're sort of unbeatable, aren't they. So yeah, they're highs
Speaker 1: and lows. There's a big difference between the two.
Speaker 5: Well that's common West Indies kind of trade as well,
Speaker 5: isn't it. Playing against them is the predictable nature, especially
Speaker 5: if they're batting like it's always been the last twenty
Speaker 5: years have been powerhouse in terms of they could make
Speaker 5: it two undred and fifty. But yeah, I guess with
Speaker 5: that is the double edged sword of when it doesn't
Speaker 5: go well. So their bowling is still doing enough as well.
Speaker 5: It's hanging in there and staying competitive. And again the
Speaker 5: toss in those conditions is going to be crucial, crucial factor.
Speaker 5: If they managed to chase you know, at Murewai or
Speaker 5: these grounds where they're small and jew comes in, then
Speaker 5: it's going to be I mean, it's going to be
Speaker 5: all in their favor.
Speaker 4: So it's going to be a thrilling finish for sure.
Speaker 1: And from the England point of view, Harry Brook the captain,
Speaker 1: he hadn't made a lot of runs, but then he
Speaker 1: got that century against Pakistan. They got there with five
Speaker 1: balls to spare in a big chase. It's not great
Speaker 1: from a strain point of view to see the English
Speaker 1: doing well, but it just feels like they are starting
Speaker 1: to find that momentum and they might try to get
Speaker 1: things to click as we head into the business end.
Speaker 5: And I think for someone like that, making runs as
Speaker 5: well is such a big part of that because he's
Speaker 5: middle order player, is one of the better middle order
Speaker 5: batsman in the world. So to have him hitting some
Speaker 5: form now, as we said, as we start to get
Speaker 5: to the business end, is.
Speaker 4: Such a crucial part of it.
Speaker 5: That they're batting order again throughout most of these teams
Speaker 5: are when you look at their batting order, they're going
Speaker 5: to be stacked. But there's some players there that haven't
Speaker 5: fired a shot yet that we know world beaters and
Speaker 5: some of the best in the world at T twenty cricket.
Speaker 5: So I guess that's what Pommy's talking about, isn't it
Speaker 5: That they've got so much room for improvement and they
Speaker 5: haven't really shown it yet and they're still winning. So
Speaker 5: as much as we had it as Australians, our time
Speaker 5: has come and gone. The ashes are gone, so we've
Speaker 5: got to move on. And they think when in the
Speaker 5: World Tea twenty and then so beare it? We'll be
Speaker 5: fine now.
Speaker 1: I post it to pomme that given this is the
Speaker 1: first tournament that India are playing without row Hit and
Speaker 1: without vier At, is at the start of a new era,
Speaker 1: and are they still you know, the team to be?
Speaker 1: They lost in a Metabad again, which is only the
Speaker 1: second time after or the first time after they lost
Speaker 1: Australia in that ODO World Cup final, and it just
Speaker 1: feels like there's definitely a different vibrun on this Indian
Speaker 1: So obviously there's still a lot of match winners in there,
Speaker 1: but do they still have the do they still know
Speaker 1: how to win without those senior heads in that group?
Speaker 4: What was this kind of take on that?
Speaker 1: Well, he said they're still powerhouse and they can still
Speaker 1: do it. And they've of course got Jasper Bumer, so
Speaker 1: with him in their side, that's four free overs basically.
Speaker 4: Exactly, you've still got that guy.
Speaker 5: I think the beauty of what they always have in
Speaker 5: their favorites of the IPL, like how it was going
Speaker 5: to keep unneerthing that next generation of cricketer, and we've
Speaker 5: seen it with you know, the abershek coming in and
Speaker 5: guys like that who you wouldn't normally see get an
Speaker 5: opportunity probably until later in their careers. All of a
Speaker 5: sudden they've played fifty sixty IPL games, which are the
Speaker 5: equivalent of international games, with the pressure that they're under
Speaker 5: and he's been flying, so it is a good point.
Speaker 5: It probably lacks leadership on field when things are going wrong.
Speaker 5: You would also you would love to look around and
Speaker 5: see 're out and Row hit there or one of
Speaker 5: them be captain calling the shots. You know, again, they've
Speaker 5: won IPLs, they've won World Cups. They've done it when
Speaker 5: it matters. So that's without knowing exactly in the sanctum,
Speaker 5: I would dare say that's when they're missed the most.
Speaker 5: Obviously they're batting as well, but having that calm leadership
Speaker 5: on field and that passion.
Speaker 4: That Via brings.
Speaker 5: They're definitely going to take a while to replace that,
Speaker 5: but no doubt this next generation will at some point.
Speaker 1: Okay, well yeah, there are some really exciting games coming up.
Speaker 1: We've got West Indies against South Africa tonight, India and
Speaker 1: Zimbabwe also that's on Thursday night, and then England take
Speaker 1: on New Zealand on Friday night. I reckon that'll be
Speaker 1: a really interesting one as well because the keyways. While
Speaker 1: they're perennial semi finalists, it seems like at ICC tournament,
Speaker 1: so they might also find a way to sneak their
Speaker 1: way into the final four.
Speaker 4: And no one spoken about them as as usual.
Speaker 5: Yeah, every year or every edition of a either a
Speaker 5: fifty year or a T twenty World Cup, they find
Speaker 5: a way. It's always their semi finalist, final cockroach. You
Speaker 5: just can't kill them. They just come back. So we
Speaker 5: do enjoy their work as well because there there are neighbors,
Speaker 5: aren't they.
Speaker 1: We have to look after them, we do. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to some test stuff then. Some news this week
Speaker 1: that Australia's toured to South Africa to happen later this year.
Speaker 1: The dates have been announced they're going to play three
Speaker 1: od i's and three Test matches, the first time the
Speaker 1: Test team has returned since the sandpaper scandal in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: so it's been a long time between drinks. And those
Speaker 1: Test matches are going to be in Durban, they're going
Speaker 1: to be in Port Elizabeth now known as Gerberja and
Speaker 1: Cape Town of course the scene of the crime. So
Speaker 1: three very interesting scenarios and it's going to be a
Speaker 1: really good series to watch, isn't that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is the two World Test Championship finalists, so
Speaker 5: there's that little aspect of it as well, but also
Speaker 5: nice for the Aussies to get back into the swing
Speaker 5: of Test cricket after what we saw in the Ashes.
Speaker 5: You know, you've got the Northern Test coming up and
Speaker 5: then into that, so crickets cricket watching dream South African
Speaker 5: Test matches are always great to watch. There's always something
Speaker 5: happening in the games, are never boring. There's always enough
Speaker 5: in it. For bowlers there similar conditions to Australia, but yeah,
Speaker 5: there's always enough. And as you say, you had that
Speaker 5: intrigue of not touring in will about eight years, well
Speaker 5: over eight years since that, which is weird how the
Speaker 5: world or the future tourist program works. When you've got
Speaker 5: it feels like we're playing every other team all the time,
Speaker 5: and then you don't go to STAFFCA to play test
Speaker 5: series for eight years is a bit silly because they
Speaker 5: always are such spicy encounters.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's one look forward to.
Speaker 1: But I mean they're both spicy on the field, but
Speaker 1: also the crowd seem to be pretty ferocious over there.
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't been you've played over there in
Speaker 1: South Africa? Did you feel that when you were there?
Speaker 1: And do you think it's going to be the case
Speaker 1: again when they return the Aussies?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, no doubt it would be the case again. There
Speaker 5: was that series. It wasn't just sandpaper. But remember Robarda
Speaker 5: was elbowing I think from memory of that same series
Speaker 5: where he got did he get suspended again for elbowing
Speaker 5: or you got to find or find which we don't
Speaker 5: tend to see in cricket, do we. And then we
Speaker 5: had all the other stuff that was going on with
Speaker 5: the crowd, some of you know, the dress ups and
Speaker 5: the way they just get into the game is very
Speaker 5: similar to the way Australian crowds do it. So I
Speaker 5: think it's it's similar in terms of they hate Australia,
Speaker 5: they want to beat us. And I remember touring and
Speaker 5: now back two years ago, just before COVID, we're playing
Speaker 5: up in Potchefstrom and it's again they don't they didn't
Speaker 5: get a heap of cricket at that time, so they
Speaker 5: had one ODII and they made the most.
Speaker 4: Of that hundred overs that day I play.
Speaker 5: I think it was the last ODEI I ever played,
Speaker 5: and I'm pretty happy getting off that field.
Speaker 4: And never playing again.
Speaker 5: The way I got spoken to on the boundary so wow, okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: but again all in good spirit, but it's just relentless yeah.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 1: And I suppose there was also in that tour what
Speaker 1: there was the on field stuff and then there was
Speaker 1: all stuff on the stair or in the stairwevels between
Speaker 1: the two teams. So there must be some grounds where
Speaker 1: those change rooms sort of are really close to overlapping
Speaker 1: with each other.
Speaker 5: Well, I think from memory that was Port Elizabeth, which
Speaker 5: is now known as Geber.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I didn't want to say, but you say
Speaker 4: a lot better.
Speaker 2: I did a bit of research this morning.
Speaker 5: Google translated yeah pronunciation yeah.
Speaker 4: From memory, the.
Speaker 5: Stairs are based on the same and then the change
Speaker 5: rooms go the separate way. So I don't know if
Speaker 5: they've redeveloped the ground since then. But the tunnel vision,
Speaker 5: the tunnel came yeah, hot property. Maybe they can live
Speaker 5: stream that, you know, press red on your remote and
Speaker 5: you get the stairwell vision as well. So but obviously personnel,
Speaker 5: I've probably changed slightly. They with some of the key
Speaker 5: figures in that stoush, So.
Speaker 1: The chances of us seeing faft dips in the towel
Speaker 1: again they're probably pretty slam Well.
Speaker 5: You never know, he might come out of retirement. As
Speaker 5: I said, I had this dream about Paran doing it.
Speaker 5: Maybe Fat will come back for this series, Quinny de Cock,
Speaker 5: Davey Warner. Maybe yeah, okay, maybe the band will get
Speaker 5: back together and we'll reignite the rivalry.
Speaker 1: On your Paran coming. I did have to also say
Speaker 1: that I was a fan of Schlanker's chances this tournament,
Speaker 1: and then since then they've lost to Zimbabwe and then
Speaker 1: they lost again the other night.
Speaker 5: But at least they are there competing, so I feel
Speaker 5: like you don't even try and make the two but
Speaker 5: he's not even in I don't know where he is.
Speaker 5: He's probably off playing somewhere playing golf or something, so
Speaker 5: at least you were somewhat.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay the women's series, India won the T twenties
Speaker 1: two to one, and now Australia have won the first ODI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Alan Borderfield by six wickets with more than ten overs
Speaker 1: to spare, they got those runs. Alissa Herely came back
Speaker 1: with fifty. Beth Moon you got seventy six. Annabelle Sutherland
Speaker 1: was forty eight not out. I feel like she's a
Speaker 1: been under utilized in that T twenty side. She's so
Speaker 1: far down the order. You know, we're all thinking along
Speaker 1: the lines of Louis Cameron. She's the Blinda Clark medalist,
Speaker 1: So let's get her up the order, get her into
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: Maybe Dozsies could look to do what they did with
Speaker 2: Tim David in.
Speaker 1: The men's side and get a really powerhouse player further
Speaker 1: up that order. And then we yeah, also had intral
Speaker 1: Stark on com so there's lots to talk about there.
Speaker 1: The Scoop podcast they do it really well. Run A
Speaker 1: Hussein and Molly Strano, they cover off this series really well.
Speaker 1: So jump over there. If you're interested, just for the
Speaker 1: Scoop Cricket podcast on all the podcast platforms. Sarah Cooy
Speaker 1: is this week's special guest and she's got an unbelievable
Speaker 1: record in the WNCL as well as a very fine
Speaker 1: international career about a decade ago now, but she's richo.
Speaker 1: She's played in ten WNCL finals across three states, New
Speaker 1: South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania and she's won them
Speaker 1: all and now she's qualified for her eleventh this season.
Speaker 2: He'd be a brave person the better, but against her.
Speaker 4: Good luck charm ten from ten that's you know how
Speaker 4: they get rings in. Yeah, she's got.
Speaker 2: Everythinger and move on to her tones.
Speaker 5: Yeah well yeah, the good point I was going to say,
Speaker 5: she almost doesn't need to play this because she's got
Speaker 5: nothing left to it.
Speaker 4: But you're right, you can get toe rings gunning.
Speaker 5: So that's an amazing record that'd be unrivaled in any
Speaker 5: sporting code in the world. So to go eleven for
Speaker 5: eleven New South Wales, good chance that they win with
Speaker 5: her and the team. So yeah, incredible start.
Speaker 1: And I found it incredible that, as you'll hear when
Speaker 1: you listen to that interview, that she's away from the
Speaker 1: game to keep fit. She's a gym trainer, she does crossfitch,
Speaker 1: she does high rocks, all those sort of really intense
Speaker 1: physical performances. I know you love that side of the
Speaker 1: game as well, but that's how she keeps going and
Speaker 1: keeps fitting, keeps active.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: She would be similar age to what I am, if
Speaker 5: not a little bit. And she's still playing. And I
Speaker 5: said last week Jackson Bird, Peter Siddle, all those guys
Speaker 5: you got to admire, so Cody to still be playing.
Speaker 5: I do remember when she was in South Strala, she'd
Speaker 5: always be in the gym just pumping. And like some
Speaker 5: of our guys, myself included, would not want to be
Speaker 5: in the gym when she is because she would definitely upstages.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean amazing chat to have her insights
Speaker 5: and again that record that she speaks of unrivaled, so
Speaker 5: tune into that absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now let's move on to the big four this week, Richard.
Speaker 1: I posted to you just yesterday that we wanted to
Speaker 1: get your big four this week, and the big four
Speaker 1: I want to get from you is the best bowling
Speaker 1: actions that you've seen.
Speaker 2: So who's on the list.
Speaker 5: So when you say best. You mean my take on
Speaker 5: if I saw someone bowling, I would I wish I
Speaker 5: could bowl like that, like most beautiful robotic technique.
Speaker 1: Well not that robotic, maybe smooth maybe you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so built in a lab kind of thing
Speaker 5: if you're going to pick your.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, is that sort of what you went for?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 5: It was, but I had a backup just in case
Speaker 5: you were after something slightly more unique, because everyone has different.
Speaker 2: Tastes unique bowling actions.
Speaker 5: Well, you could say good, bad, and ugly, but we
Speaker 5: won't say ugly. So I've gone a couple of all
Speaker 5: timers and then a couple of current players that that
Speaker 5: I enjoy. So my all timers are Brettley.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I tried to emulate that in the backyard all the time,
Speaker 5: and certainly the celebration as well that came with it.
Speaker 5: But again, if I was to say a guy was
Speaker 5: born in the lab to bowl, the action, the way
Speaker 5: you ran in everything was towards the batsman, and that's
Speaker 5: what we talk about as bowl as. We want everything
Speaker 5: on towards the batsman.
Speaker 1: So he was So you see your number four number,
Speaker 1: he's my number.
Speaker 5: Well, there's no number one and four they're all in
Speaker 5: the same group, right, but he's an all timer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that celebration the chainsaw. Did you ever
Speaker 1: bring that out? Only not just in the backyard, but
Speaker 1: on game only.
Speaker 4: In the backyard.
Speaker 5: I was never cool enough to do that, so only
Speaker 5: in the backyard, but I definitely did it all the time.
Speaker 5: My second one is Shane Bond, and personally for me,
Speaker 5: so the way I just loved Shane, but he was
Speaker 5: probably my favorite ball of growing up. I had the
Speaker 5: poster brittley, but I wanted to bowl like Shane Bond
Speaker 5: the way he swung the ball, but the way he
Speaker 5: tormented Australia, but the way his action was I think
Speaker 5: it was just perfect rhythmic one hundred and forty five
Speaker 5: in swingers destroying Australia in those old One Day Series
Speaker 5: where basically every year was New Zealand out here playing
Speaker 5: god cricket against Australia. So they're my two all timers.
Speaker 1: And then and the ball would be brown by the
Speaker 1: end of the reverse.
Speaker 5: Reverse swing in swingers, yorkers back in the hand, slow
Speaker 5: balls six.
Speaker 4: For every game, like just a genius. So I loved
Speaker 4: his work.
Speaker 5: And then from the current crop, Marley Beardman, really Jordan Buckingham,
Speaker 5: I think they're the two that really okay, I just
Speaker 5: remember Bucky reminds me a little bit of Dale Stain
Speaker 5: and I could have easily had him in the list,
Speaker 5: but I thought I'll give the current crops some love.
Speaker 5: Bidman from what I've seen live. And then also I
Speaker 5: remember Cree dot Com put up him bowling in the
Speaker 5: nets on the Aussie Camp last year. I just kept
Speaker 5: watching that on Loop. I was like, this kid is
Speaker 5: this is just beautiful. Just the way he again run
Speaker 5: the run up is everything. And then I've got a
Speaker 5: couple of honorable mentions Josh Racher, Yeah yeah, just natural rhythmic,
Speaker 5: just strolls in, effortless strolls in. And then one that's
Speaker 5: going to raise some eyebrows mohammed.
Speaker 2: Shammy, hum much Shammy. Yeah, okay, because.
Speaker 5: He looks like it hurts every single time, but again
Speaker 5: runs in, never looks fit, never looks like yeah.
Speaker 4: He sort of wattles in, wattles in like stutters. Every
Speaker 4: ball looks different.
Speaker 5: One hundred and forty five K's on a dime reverse
Speaker 5: swing swing, just a genius. So I always look they're
Speaker 5: probably the bowlers I love watching the most over over.
Speaker 1: The time at his very best with the White Ball
Speaker 1: of Shamy. Just unplayable, isn't it? And can send it
Speaker 1: both ways.
Speaker 5: And even in Tescary the limited stuff we saw, but
Speaker 5: just always seemed to get the job done. But I
Speaker 5: just love the way he waddled in and got it
Speaker 5: down there.
Speaker 1: So so does come into this sort of conversation or not?
Speaker 5: Really, that's what the unique category. I had some names
Speaker 5: there and he's obviously one. Yeah, who else you nolinga? Yeah,
Speaker 5: Paul Adams going back a bit for people who wouldn't know,
Speaker 5: but Spinner from South Africa, Frog and a Blendo?
Speaker 4: Is that were they his nickname was for a long time.
Speaker 2: Give us a demonstration.
Speaker 5: Wow, it was kind of his head went one way
Speaker 5: and his arm followed somehow lower than what his head was.
Speaker 5: Zaman Khan is another one from the BBL exploits. And
Speaker 5: there's another one I'll show you a quick glimpse of.
Speaker 5: But this is a guy from the IPL back in
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. I remember watching on in my hotel. Oh course,
Speaker 5: shik course shik Yeah, okay, yep. Did he play for
Speaker 5: their one? That's the old Gujarrat Yeah, rans I think,
Speaker 5: but they're the they're the unique category.
Speaker 1: So we're going to have to get that picture up
Speaker 1: on our socials so the listeners can hear. But yeah,
Speaker 1: cour shik, I do remember vague memories of very unusual,
Speaker 1: sort of uncomfortable looking at.
Speaker 4: Very hurt watching it, laying in bed at hurt.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if he kicked on and played
Speaker 5: more ip off he still plays somewhere, but maybe that's
Speaker 5: a deep dovel do after the pod. But yeah, I've
Speaker 5: gone both categories there. I really covered basis, So no
Speaker 5: captains cool needed this week.
Speaker 3: Very good.
Speaker 2: But that's what I like to hear.
Speaker 1: And if you do want to submit your favorite or
Speaker 1: most unique bolling actions, get them into podcasts at cricket
Speaker 1: dot com dot you or on the cricket dot com
Speaker 1: dot you Instagram page. That's where you can hit us
Speaker 1: up and let us know.
Speaker 5: So give me some feedback. Who have I missed? Have
Speaker 5: I missed anyone? Top of the head you said boom
Speaker 5: rather is probably.
Speaker 1: The only I thought you would have gone with your
Speaker 1: old mate Frankie warrel In there with that run up, and.
Speaker 5: But it's pretty, it's pretty, I mean it was, it's
Speaker 5: he's straight up now it used to be from.
Speaker 2: Middle oh, so because he's straightened, it's pretty.
Speaker 4: Running, it's run of the mill, it's it's a good bowling.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a quick nod to our sponsors
Speaker 1: and then we'll come back with zav Doherty, the new
Speaker 1: match referee and the former Australians played out to be
Speaker 1: joined by former Australian and Tasmanian spinner Xavier Doherty.
Speaker 9: Welcome to the Unplavable podcast. Mate, how are you, thanks, Josh. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's great to be with you, really well. Thanks, I've
Speaker 9: been I've been busy with cricket again this summer, which
Speaker 9: has been nice. It's I've been out of the game
Speaker 9: for a little while, so it's been nice to be
Speaker 9: back in it and talking cricket, which is yeah both,
Speaker 9: you know, one of the big parts of my life
Speaker 9: over the journey.
Speaker 8: So yeah, nice to be joining you.
Speaker 1: Well that's a perfect segue because I reckon a lot
Speaker 1: of eagle eyed fans would have noticed on a few
Speaker 1: scorecards that the match referee is x Doherty. So how
Speaker 1: have you got into that and what brought that about?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I said, I've been away from the game.
Speaker 9: Ah well, pretty much since I retired from from domestic
Speaker 9: cricket in like twenty seventeen, I sort of dabbled in
Speaker 9: coaching and pretty quickly found it wasn't for me, so
Speaker 9: I went and lived a completely different life for seven
Speaker 9: or eight years on. I etn't got myself a trade
Speaker 9: and did something completely different and just enjoyed a normal
Speaker 9: life for a bit to be honest. But yeah, in
Speaker 9: the last twelve months I just had myself thinking about
Speaker 9: what I might like to do and what I might
Speaker 9: like to do within the game of cricket, and yeah,
Speaker 9: there was a job advertised through Cricket Australia as a
Speaker 9: match referee, and yeah, I've sort of been making away
Speaker 9: a little bit around the country, but mainly based in Hobart,
Speaker 9: doing hanging around some Shield games and some Second eleven
Speaker 9: games WNCLWBBL and yeah, even stuck in a BBL game
Speaker 9: when David Johnson went down late with some illness.
Speaker 8: So it's been a bit of a hectic summer.
Speaker 9: But yeah, one I've really enjoyed seeing it from a
Speaker 9: different side of the fence and working with the umpires
Speaker 9: and making sure players are doing all they should be doing.
Speaker 9: So Yeah, thoroughly enjoyed it being back involved in the
Speaker 9: game and seeing it in a completely different way.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot of work behind the scenes, but
Speaker 1: what does it actually entail being a match referee? What
Speaker 1: are the main things you've got to get done.
Speaker 9: Well, you'll see a lot of the matchreffs at the
Speaker 9: toss and that's sort of where our day kicks off.
Speaker 9: I guess, you know, you're sort of it's basically just
Speaker 9: making sure the game runs as it should. You know,
Speaker 9: the umpires obviously have a role to do out on
Speaker 9: the ground, and you know, they do the best they can,
Speaker 9: and they'll make decisions.
Speaker 8: Most will be right, a few will be wrong.
Speaker 9: You know, we sort of evaluate that at the end
Speaker 9: of the day and work with the captains just on
Speaker 9: assessing the umpires, and yeah, just making sure the game
Speaker 9: runs smoothly basically, and working with the umpires and the
Speaker 9: captains and the players to make sure everyone's holding up
Speaker 9: their end of the bargain and curators obviously, and yeah,
Speaker 9: sort of just watching over the game, you know, I
Speaker 9: know they do pantous occasionally. We're sitting up there, it
Speaker 9: looks like we're just we're just cruising through but we are.
Speaker 9: We are working, I can assure you so. And overrates
Speaker 9: also play a big part of it. It's it's probably
Speaker 9: not the most interesting topic, but it certainly plays a
Speaker 9: big part in the role that we have.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the format. It seems like we're always
Speaker 1: talking about over eights. So it's an ever pressent problem.
Speaker 2: Isn't it.
Speaker 8: It is it is.
Speaker 1: I've also noticed that you've been doing some commentary on
Speaker 1: the Tasmanian matches live streams on cricket dot Com dot
Speaker 1: Au and ko Sports and Tasmania. They're looking pretty strong
Speaker 1: in the One Day Cup at the minute, don't they.
Speaker 1: They're going to host the final on March eleven.
Speaker 8: They are. Yeah, So I've been sort of doing a
Speaker 8: bit of the last tread.
Speaker 9: When I've had some spare days or spare weeks, I'll
Speaker 9: pop in and join a few of the i guess
Speaker 9: the local media celebrities down here in Hobart who sort
Speaker 9: of call the game, and I'll and I'll go in
Speaker 9: and give my special comments. But it's again, it's been
Speaker 9: a good way to sort of be back at the
Speaker 9: cricket and watching it and for those that tune in
Speaker 9: an insight into what's going on out in the field.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's been good. Tasmania have done have done
Speaker 8: really well in the One Day Cup.
Speaker 9: They were unbeaten until I think for five games and
Speaker 9: then lost the last two are really close, one against
Speaker 9: WA and then most recently they got beaten by New
Speaker 9: South Wales, which is a bit of a thumping to
Speaker 9: be honest down here in Hobart.
Speaker 8: So they do have a very good team.
Speaker 9: I think that the team they will take into the
Speaker 9: final will be a little different to the one they
Speaker 9: put out in the park last time round. So yeah,
Speaker 9: they look like they're in a good space. They're still
Speaker 9: still in the hunt for the shield as well Tasmania,
Speaker 9: so of course I've got to keep neutral and just
Speaker 9: watch what I say. And yeah, wearing a couple of
Speaker 9: different hats certainly makes it makes it interesting. But yeah,
Speaker 9: being able to watch it and bring it to those
Speaker 9: who tune in being good fun.
Speaker 1: Now, tatany haven't won the One Day Cut for sixteen years,
Speaker 1: but if we back it up back to your career,
Speaker 1: you actually won the one they cuts three times according
Speaker 1: to my research. Does that sound right? It's right, yeah,
Speaker 1: And one of those titles was a really close one
Speaker 1: wik at victory over Victoria. The scores are about one
Speaker 1: fifty one thirty ish and and Duckworth Lewis came into
Speaker 1: play and you've got four wickets yourself. Can you take
Speaker 1: us back to that day? It seems like an amazing final.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was like we about that era.
Speaker 9: You know, there was a four or five year span
Speaker 9: where Arson Victoria just played some really good type one
Speaker 9: day cricket and hard and it was tough. And you
Speaker 9: know that Dave Hussy and Hodge and Quiney and all
Speaker 9: those guys were were Cameron White obviously like that.
Speaker 8: It was a just not that teams aren't now aren't
Speaker 8: aren't littered with.
Speaker 9: Stars, but it just felt like every battery you came
Speaker 9: up against was was just another one who's going to
Speaker 9: give you some headaches when you played Victoria. Yeah, but
Speaker 9: that that One Day Cup against against the Vicks here
Speaker 9: in Hobart, I didn't get ma out of the match,
Speaker 9: which is a bit of source of frustration. Brett Jeeves
Speaker 9: I think took three for three for thirty and knocked
Speaker 9: over the top order and made some runs in the
Speaker 9: meantime when the game was on the line, I ran
Speaker 9: down the weekend and got stumped off Bryce in the
Speaker 9: game for a dark so that's probably what cost me.
Speaker 9: But yeah, it was a tight contest, influenced by the rain.
Speaker 9: Later it actually snowed what was at mid February, It
Speaker 9: actually snowed on Mount Wellington later that night. So our
Speaker 9: celebrations were not so much sitting around in a beer
Speaker 9: gun somewhere, but tucked away in an old English style
Speaker 9: pub and celebrating that way because it was it was
Speaker 9: like a middle of winter.
Speaker 8: It was like middle of winter in the middle of
Speaker 8: February down here.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. And so it must have come right down
Speaker 1: to the way, as you said, Travis bert got thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Then Ben Hilfenhouse was at the other end. He was
Speaker 1: the number eleven that day. I had to face two
Speaker 1: balls and Travis Burke got the job done at the
Speaker 1: other end.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, Bertie was one of those really reliable we didn't play.
Speaker 9: He might have played the odd game for Australia.
Speaker 8: In the end.
Speaker 9: Bertie played played a few the shortest format for Australia,
Speaker 9: but like just one of the he was a great
Speaker 9: cricketer to watch, one of my favorite cricketers to watch
Speaker 9: Travis Burt so entertaining and so reliable, particularly in the
Speaker 9: shortest form of the game.
Speaker 8: So yeah, he held us together. As I mentioned, I
Speaker 8: was not much help.
Speaker 9: I think I faced three balls and then ran down
Speaker 9: the wicket like a hero and tried to try to
Speaker 9: get on with it.
Speaker 8: And then hell, yeah he'll who.
Speaker 9: I think that's Health became a really good batter later
Speaker 9: in his career, but found himself batting at eleven just
Speaker 9: at that moment, but his improvements were to come. But yeah,
Speaker 9: importantly for us, he held on long enough. I guess
Speaker 9: Sane Harwood I reckon would have been those two balls
Speaker 9: that he had to face. And Hardwood at the time
Speaker 9: was top of his game, bowling really fast, really fast,
Speaker 9: and not nice to be facing as a number eleven.
Speaker 9: So yeah, fortunately for us, Bertie got the job done,
Speaker 9: and yeah, a little bit of help from Health.
Speaker 1: He mentioned some of those Victorian players there, Dodge Hussy Wife.
Speaker 1: They also had Andrew McDonald, Michael Klinger, Rob Quiney. Were
Speaker 1: there any players in particular that you really enjoyed getting out?
Speaker 9: Dave Hussey was no doubt my favorite guy to get out,
Speaker 9: and not that it happened that often, which is why
Speaker 9: I actually think I did get him that day in
Speaker 9: the final, but it didn't.
Speaker 8: It didn't happen very often.
Speaker 9: You know, Dave Hussy absolutely bullied me in all forms
Speaker 9: of cricket. I played a lot of cricket, a lot
Speaker 9: of cricket for Australia dominated state cricket Huss, so I
Speaker 9: ended up playing a little bit of international cricket with
Speaker 9: him as well, so got to know him away from
Speaker 9: away from the ground as well. So but yeah, certainly
Speaker 9: knocking Dave Hussy over was a nice It was a
Speaker 9: nice moment that day. And yeah, like I said, I'm
Speaker 9: trying to think of it off the top of my
Speaker 9: head now, I'm not sure it happened too many other times.
Speaker 8: So yeah, to get it done in the final was nice.
Speaker 1: Well, Huss had a decent run in the eusty side
Speaker 1: and you had a good period as well yourself, about
Speaker 1: five years in the one day side and a couple
Speaker 1: of years in the T twenty side. That included going
Speaker 1: to the twenty twelve T twenty World Cup, which was
Speaker 1: the last time that this tournament was held in Sri
Speaker 1: Lanka similar to this one. At the minute, what is
Speaker 1: it about playing in Shri Lanka. That just seems so
Speaker 1: different to playing in others continental places. It just seems
Speaker 1: like it's a different ball game, even when you're compared
Speaker 1: to somewhere so close like India.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, people look at Indian cricket and they you know,
Speaker 9: I watched the Test cricket and they see the wickets
Speaker 9: spin and bounce and they are really foreign conditions for
Speaker 9: particularly Australian players. But their one day cricket is not
Speaker 9: like that. There one day cricket, they're really high scoring matches,
Speaker 9: fast wickets, smallish grounds. Was in Sri Lanka, the short
Speaker 9: the T twenty games, particularly in Colombo, all spinning sideways,
Speaker 9: absolutely spinning sideways that you know, playing on used wickets,
Speaker 9: reused wickets, damp wickets most of the times there's a
Speaker 9: heck of a heck of a lot of rain going on.
Speaker 8: I think we played in September.
Speaker 9: Well, we did play in September because my daughter was
Speaker 9: born mid tournament that that twenty twelve, I ducked home
Speaker 9: for five days for my daughter to be born, and
Speaker 9: then I went back to the back to the World Cup.
Speaker 8: So I missed the game.
Speaker 9: But yeah, September, so I was I don't know if
Speaker 9: that's monsoon season, but I know there was.
Speaker 8: There was quite a bit of rain around and they've
Speaker 8: had similar for this tournament as well.
Speaker 9: But yeah, the T twenty games, the wickets are really
Speaker 9: stoppy and sturdy and you know a lot of bounces,
Speaker 9: as the Aussies found when they when they took on
Speaker 9: their games at the Prematassa as well.
Speaker 8: So yeah, they really are foreign conditions, even in even
Speaker 8: in T twenty cricket.
Speaker 1: And I saw it in a few of those scorecards.
Speaker 1: You were bowling in tend and with Brad Holk, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine you would have bowling tending with another left
Speaker 1: arm spinner of too many occasions.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was an interesting one.
Speaker 9: And like I say, I think Glenn Maxwell played in
Speaker 9: that team as well, and more often than I would
Speaker 9: have bowled his allotment of over so that probably suggests how,
Speaker 9: you know, the conditions that we were playing in. Yeah,
Speaker 9: there was lots of spin beings thrown at us and
Speaker 9: we tried to sort of combat that a little bit
Speaker 9: as well, not so successfully when we took on the
Speaker 9: West Indies eventually, but yeah, that Yeah, Hogy was another
Speaker 9: guy who you know i'd watch a lot on TV,
Speaker 9: but you know, never really come you must have to
Speaker 9: do with him until that tournament, so he had to
Speaker 9: spend a couple of weeks on tour with Hogie.
Speaker 8: Was certainly very interesting, and yeah, he did quite well.
Speaker 9: He was in his forties by then, or maybe or
Speaker 9: touching forty, so yeah, a pretty amazing effort for someone
Speaker 9: of his heat, you know, not to be disrespectful to.
Speaker 8: Be playing at the highest level.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You should still be out there if that's the if
Speaker 1: that's okay.
Speaker 9: He's making me look stupid now, isn't he. So yeah,
Speaker 9: Unfortunately I love watching the game, but my love of
Speaker 9: playing sort of sort of dwindled a little while ago.
Speaker 9: So no, he can have that one.
Speaker 1: But you mentioned you played against the Western He's in
Speaker 1: the semi final. They got the better of you guys
Speaker 1: on that occasion and they went on to win the tournament.
Speaker 1: But do you have any memories of that game, particularly
Speaker 1: because at their very best, the wind Is are an
Speaker 1: incredible TEA twenty side.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I had Marlon Samuel's Plumber ll
Speaker 9: BW early on, which I won't out the umpire, but
Speaker 9: I didn't do any favors that day, No reviews available,
Speaker 9: No review I don't think we weren't playing reviews at
Speaker 9: that time in T twenty cricket, so I didn't have
Speaker 9: that one to rely on.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 9: I think George was the captain and sort of tried
Speaker 9: to get Gail and Pollard and just sort of throw
Speaker 9: pace at them, which which was good, but it didn't work,
Speaker 9: which sort of meant that he saved a lot of
Speaker 9: the spin for later on in the innings. So unfortunately,
Speaker 9: I found myself bowling the nineteenth and twentieth over and
Speaker 9: not faring so well against a couple of the biggest
Speaker 9: hitters in world cricket at that time. So yeah, unfortunately,
Speaker 9: I think they look like they were going to score
Speaker 9: sort of one eighty one ninety and eventually you might
Speaker 9: have the school cut in front of you there. Josh
Speaker 9: was two twenty ish, I reckon so which in the
Speaker 9: end was too many for us. So despite playing some
Speaker 9: pretty good cricket to that point, that's the nature of
Speaker 9: tournament cricket.
Speaker 8: You have one bad day.
Speaker 9: Or a little five bad five overs and it sort
Speaker 9: of cost us. So yeah, we found ourselves heading home early.
Speaker 1: Four for two five, so not quite as many as that,
Speaker 1: but a good score.
Speaker 9: Nonetheless, Yeah, it sort of felt like two twenty when
Speaker 9: I was out there bowling. It just seemed like every
Speaker 9: sequment were every ball was going either over over the
Speaker 9: fence or to it.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it was, it was, it was. It wasn't nice,
Speaker 8: to be honest, but.
Speaker 9: A bit of a daunting but a but a got
Speaker 9: a learning a learning period in the cricket no doubt.
Speaker 1: And now that you're back in the cricket scene, you
Speaker 1: would have watched a fair bit this summer. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the spin bowling scene at the minute
Speaker 1: in Australian cricket, particularly the men's side of things. We
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of it during the ashes and
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of green pictures. Where do you
Speaker 1: think we're going with spin bowling in this country?
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, like you mentioned, I've been doing a bit
Speaker 9: of the shield streaming down here in hobartn't it like?
Speaker 8: To be honest, you hardly see any spin bowling. You
Speaker 8: rarely see it.
Speaker 9: You see international spinners playing in the game, but they
Speaker 9: really bowl, you know. Matt Kerneman has barely bowled for
Speaker 9: Tasmania this year. We had the new South Wales guys
Speaker 9: down here last week and Tamby sang A hardly bowled.
Speaker 8: Joel Davies played that and didn't really bowl a lot.
Speaker 9: So it is it is a tough scene for for
Speaker 9: the spinners, and you know, it felt like it was
Speaker 9: tough when I was playing. I think it's I think
Speaker 9: it's got even harder for them to make an impact.
Speaker 9: So I know that Corey Rocaicelli's doing, you know, really
Speaker 9: well in Perth. You know, the whacker over the last
Speaker 9: few years has started to take a bit of spin
Speaker 9: and you know he's watching him develop and his skill
Speaker 9: set's been really impressive. Impressive. Todd Murphy, he's obviously he's
Speaker 9: obviously doing well. And Mitch Webson, you know, got some
Speaker 9: wickets last week in there in the one day game
Speaker 9: which was good as well.
Speaker 8: So that and that's the other thing.
Speaker 9: You know, when when one day games sort of get
Speaker 9: cut back, I think it's down to seven now, you
Speaker 9: know that's there used to be ten. That's three opportunities
Speaker 9: where where spinners don't get to sort of be at
Speaker 9: the forefront and show their skills. But you know, when
Speaker 9: particularly there's a shortage in Shield cricket, so it is
Speaker 9: a really tough game and it was it was hard
Speaker 9: to watch that. And you know, I don't blame the
Speaker 9: Aussies for not picking a spinner in that that SCG Test.
Speaker 9: You've got to pick the team that that's that's the
Speaker 9: best chance of winning it. But it is a shame
Speaker 9: that we've got to the point where a ground like
Speaker 9: the s c G, which is so well known for
Speaker 9: producing top class spin performances, is you know, now you're
Speaker 9: sort of relying on your part time as so hopefully
Speaker 9: it comes back.
Speaker 8: And I know the Ossies traveled to India next year, they're.
Speaker 9: Going to be relying on on some spinners to stand
Speaker 9: up and be counted. And you know, if they are
Speaker 9: going to be a chance in that series, they'll they'll
Speaker 9: need to get some games and some time into them
Speaker 9: and get their confidence up and and be well prepared.
Speaker 9: So I'm sure Cricket Australia are aware of it and
Speaker 9: they're doing all they can. But you know, we've got
Speaker 9: quicks that are at the in the twilight of their
Speaker 9: career and we can't rely on them forever. So yeah,
Speaker 9: maybe maybe, and they've been generational, you unbelievable. You know,
Speaker 9: they'll go down in history as some of the best
Speaker 9: we've seen, but you know they're not going to be
Speaker 9: around forever, so we might have to look at other
Speaker 9: venues of getting twenty wickets in a Test match, So
Speaker 9: maybe spin will be it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And well you mentioned Rocketcolie and Murphy and swepts
Speaker 1: in there. Are there any other maybe younger spinners who
Speaker 1: have caught your eye across this season?
Speaker 8: Younger?
Speaker 9: Well, I know it's been so tough like Tanby sang
Speaker 9: As a guy who who's particularly played the shorter format
Speaker 9: and done quite well. But like I mentioned, it's been
Speaker 9: so hard to get any opportunities in in Shield cricket.
Speaker 9: It's been tough like Cooney down here in Hobart, you know,
Speaker 9: I know he's injured for a little a little part
Speaker 9: of the start of the Shield season.
Speaker 3: Then he goes away.
Speaker 9: With with the Aussies and and and sort of misses
Speaker 9: an opportunity to play a lot of Shield cricket there
Speaker 9: as well. So there are some really good spinners out there,
Speaker 9: so that the cupboards not there. But you know, in
Speaker 9: an ideal world, you'd like you'd like to see him.
Speaker 9: Are you getting getting some opportunities bowling a lot of overs,
Speaker 9: but also a lot of overs when it's spinning, and
Speaker 9: you know they've got a chance to be a match
Speaker 9: winner and and put up some some really good numbers.
Speaker 9: Because for those for those people who don't who don't
Speaker 9: watch your cricket and they just sort of check in
Speaker 9: on a scorecard, they'll see that you know, Shwrep's have
Speaker 9: only got one wicket in the fourth innings or ROCKETCELLI
Speaker 9: only gets three for the game. But you know, it
Speaker 9: doesn't sort of reflect their performances. So it's tough going
Speaker 9: out there. And certainly, look I mentioned they go, when
Speaker 9: they go to the subcontinent, they'll be have the ball
Speaker 9: thrown to them in the the fifth over.
Speaker 8: It's like, you know, good luck.
Speaker 9: You know, if we don't have them bowling in similar
Speaker 9: conditions and that's their first taste of it, it's it's
Speaker 9: not as easy as it sounds just to flick a
Speaker 9: switch and start, you know, trying to win a game
Speaker 9: for your country.
Speaker 8: If you haven't been doing a lot of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right now. Before I let you go, Xavier,
Speaker 1: I want to ask lots of great lights throughout your career.
Speaker 1: Part of the World Cup winning squad in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: A baggy green to your name, but surely none of
Speaker 1: that is as high on your list as taking the
Speaker 1: first Big Bash hat trick way back.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well that's it. It was.
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, when everyone gets mentioned, people just keep telling me
Speaker 9: that that that the last Helby w was missing off stuff.
Speaker 8: It's like, who cares?
Speaker 9: Like it was a sweepshoot that looked out Umpire gave
Speaker 9: it out. You know, we had we had a full
Speaker 9: house in Hobart that day. And you know, I think
Speaker 9: every year when the Big Bats rolls around, it gets
Speaker 9: it gets a few clips on on Instagram and Facebook
Speaker 9: and whatever else.
Speaker 8: So my kids love love it. So oh yeah it was.
Speaker 8: It was certainly a highlight.
Speaker 9: But yeah, as you mentioned, the World Cup and that
Speaker 9: Ashes series unfortunately didn't go the way that we planned it.
Speaker 9: But getting a bagg of green was was right up there,
Speaker 9: as was some of the Shield wins as well.
Speaker 8: You know, I played in the Shield win, which growing
Speaker 8: up watching Tazzy play.
Speaker 9: And you know I missed out on them winning their
Speaker 9: first one, so to win in ten or eleven was
Speaker 9: another high lot as well. So yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 9: I feel very fortunate at the end, looking back, it
Speaker 9: could work quite a few to pick from, So yeah,
Speaker 9: across all formats.
Speaker 8: So I feel very lucky to have had the cricket
Speaker 8: journey that I did.
Speaker 1: And I was just scanning through a few scorecards before
Speaker 1: he chatted some big names that you've taken as well
Speaker 1: as Ja Warden, sang Takara. Are those sorts any that
Speaker 1: stick out as favorite wickets you take?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I got Mahala out a couple of
Speaker 9: times early where I reckon he just dropped his guard
Speaker 9: against you know, this young left arm, this young left
Speaker 9: arm off.
Speaker 8: He so I don't know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and getting Kumar out, I think I got him out.
Speaker 9: I think I might have only got him out. I
Speaker 9: got him out on debut as well. You know, it
Speaker 9: was actually a really nice ball that he tried to
Speaker 9: sweep and it was just like the perfect scene to
Speaker 9: a left hand I like just sort of perfect scene,
Speaker 9: perfect rotations, and yeah, knocked over his leag stump. So
Speaker 9: certainly knocking over those two who are again one of
Speaker 9: the greats of international cricket, particularly in the last sort
Speaker 9: of thirty years.
Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly right up there.
Speaker 1: Good ones have in the back pocket for sure where's
Speaker 1: the baggy green? Is it on display or is it
Speaker 1: tucked away ANISOCTA or somewhere.
Speaker 9: This is funny because I've actually just walked into my
Speaker 9: bedroom and it's in my It's in my bedside.
Speaker 8: Draw there it is.
Speaker 9: And to be fair, that's the first time it's been
Speaker 9: dragged out and that's that is the honest truth since
Speaker 9: since my kids went and grabbed it out, maybe maybe
Speaker 9: eighteen months ago. So it's not certainly not on display.
Speaker 9: Maybe it will be one day, but just sits in
Speaker 9: its bag in the bedside drawer and yeah, really rarely
Speaker 9: sees the.
Speaker 8: Light of day.
Speaker 2: Don't let them schedule it, mate, and make sure it's
Speaker 2: taken care of.
Speaker 8: No, I'll look after it. So all good, good stuff.
Speaker 1: I'll appreciate your time. Thanks for the chat and all
Speaker 1: the best with the match referee and.
Speaker 8: Going forward lovely. Thanks for your time, Josh.
Speaker 1: All right, So that was zab Doughty new match referee
Speaker 1: and yeah, some really good highlights during his Australian career
Speaker 1: four Test matches. As he said, there he's keeping the
Speaker 1: baggy green in the bedside table. At the minute, I
Speaker 1: would have thought, I mean, this is coming from a
Speaker 1: very much a non player. But if I played Test cricket, frustrata,
Speaker 1: I'm having that baggy green on display in a cabinet,
Speaker 1: in a frame somewhere. You got to know you've got
Speaker 1: to put it on show, surely.
Speaker 5: On the mantle piece, at least on the bedside.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, wouldn't you You would have thought, But nah,
Speaker 1: his was tucked away neatly and he said he doesn't
Speaker 1: bring it out ever. So yeah, I guess that's each
Speaker 1: individual's choice, but I'd be putting it on display.
Speaker 3: I reckon.
Speaker 5: It's a good question to ask passed players when you
Speaker 5: get them on for future, anyone who's played Test career.
Speaker 5: I do remember going to have sewn Tate's house ones
Speaker 5: we were there, it was like a house party and
Speaker 5: were we'd had a few and I'd asked him where's
Speaker 5: your baggy and he actually didn't know so and knowing him,
Speaker 5: he's not lying either.
Speaker 4: He would have no idea where it is.
Speaker 5: So if you live next to an ex Test cricketer,
Speaker 5: it's a good chance it could be laying around in
Speaker 5: their backyard to keep an eye on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, A lot of people said to the most prized
Speaker 1: position but again again, I mean I suppose for some
Speaker 1: people like Sewn Tates who maybe aren't as obsessed with
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. It's just another piece of cree kit,
Speaker 1: Isn't that.
Speaker 4: What it is?
Speaker 5: But it is the most prized in Australia. Is it
Speaker 5: Australian sport or Australian Well, it's obviously astrain cricket. It'd
Speaker 5: be up there in Australian sport, up there in world sport.
Speaker 1: Well, there's not that many other similar things.
Speaker 4: Symbolic, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So, but again, like you say, some people their upbringings
Speaker 5: are a bit different.
Speaker 4: Shawn grew up in.
Speaker 5: The bush and I'm not sure I ever thought he
Speaker 5: was going to play test cricket, So Travi Head would
Speaker 5: be another one he finishes playing.
Speaker 4: I wonder what he'll do.
Speaker 5: With his memorabilia because I can't imagine it's going to
Speaker 5: be on display in the house.
Speaker 1: Well yep, you'd know better than I would. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the Shield and the domestic side of things. As
Speaker 1: we touched on with ex Tasmania are into the One
Speaker 1: Day Cup Final. They're going to play New South Wales
Speaker 1: on March eleven. It's been sixteen years since Tazzy have
Speaker 1: won the One Day Cup, in fact since Xavier was playing.
Speaker 1: So they look good at the minute, but they've lossed
Speaker 1: their last couple although they will be Both of these
Speaker 1: teams will be pretty stacked come that final in March eleven,
Speaker 1: so it's going to be down in Hobart. The Blues
Speaker 1: just beat them there last week pretty convincingly. Curtis Patterson
Speaker 1: is on track for one of the most prolific One
Speaker 1: Day series of all time.
Speaker 2: Who's your pick for this one?
Speaker 5: Well, I did say at the start of the summer
Speaker 5: that had good feelings about taz May did didn't you?
Speaker 5: And I may have been talking to Shield Cricket, but
Speaker 5: let's not worry about that now. So I think at
Speaker 5: home you say they beat them last week there was
Speaker 5: a few guys not playing that maybe will in the final.
Speaker 5: I wonder Nathan Ellis will he be available to play?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: And then do new Soth the Wales get their full
Speaker 5: repertoire players available is with Steve Smith is Mitchell Stark
Speaker 5: still around, So there's a few questions that need to
Speaker 5: be answered. But I think if you if you're going
Speaker 5: off what we saw last week with Tazzy's additions. I
Speaker 5: know Jordan Silk didn't play, so I still like them
Speaker 5: and Mitchell and the way he started that innings. If
Speaker 5: you just didn't manage to nick that one, I think
Speaker 5: he would have possibly made one hundred and fifty off
Speaker 5: fifty balls, So they're dangerous Tazzy. But also New South
Speaker 5: Wales have come really good after the Big Bash, haven't
Speaker 5: they so, which is interesting with everything that's there off field,
Speaker 5: how they've kind of turned things around. So it's always
Speaker 5: good to see New South Wales playing well because there
Speaker 5: is a famous sign in the change rooms of the
Speaker 5: SCG when a New South Wales cricket is strong, Australian
Speaker 5: cricket is strong, and we're starting to see New Southwalest
Speaker 5: bounce back, so.
Speaker 4: It's good for everyone.
Speaker 1: Is that where that saying comes from?
Speaker 2: The SG?
Speaker 4: It's in the It's Don Bradman signed frame.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: I really wanted to steal it and put it up
Speaker 5: in my shed at home, but I thought it's probably
Speaker 5: been there one hundred years, so I'm not sure if
Speaker 5: it's the origins are from that well, it's obviously not
Speaker 5: from that photo, but it's a famous saying going way
Speaker 5: back slightly arrogant. But we've all heard the saying though,
Speaker 5: haven't we. Yeah, it's a famous one. So New South
Speaker 5: Wales are coming good, so Australia. Australian fans get excited.
Speaker 1: That would be a real power play to bring Stark
Speaker 1: Smith back. Just parachute them in for the final. It's
Speaker 1: been done before. Zampa, Zampa, Yeah, what do you Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're Greg Shippard and you're in your last match
Speaker 1: coaching this side, are you wanting to bring those big
Speaker 1: guns in or are you going to stick with the
Speaker 1: guys who have got you to that position.
Speaker 5: You're doing whatever you have to do to win you
Speaker 5: so as much as it would suck for the young
Speaker 5: guys that played last week and got him into a final,
Speaker 5: sorry Tanverer Adam or they go to spin and sorry,
Speaker 5: I don't know who am I missing, but someone else
Speaker 5: that's probably played all year, that has done really well
Speaker 5: that doesn't I don't know.
Speaker 8: Won.
Speaker 5: I doubt it happens because I think those guys would
Speaker 5: probably say no, But watch this space.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 1: In the Sheffield Shield, the Vicks they are going to
Speaker 1: host that Shield final. Two rounds still to go and
Speaker 1: they've already locked it away. So they have just been
Speaker 1: the dominant team so far this season. Queensland and South
Speaker 1: Australia battling out for second place at the minute, I
Speaker 1: mean Tasmania and you said, well, it was still a
Speaker 1: slim chance of qualifying, but you'd have to say it's
Speaker 1: between the Bulls and the former Redbacks now at the minute.
Speaker 1: As you touched on, Sammy Harper was the star of
Speaker 1: last round with two said trees and yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's really just who's going to make out the numbers.
Speaker 1: It seems like at the minute the Vics looks super strong.
Speaker 1: They've got a totally stacked team at the minute, Scott
Speaker 1: bold And is of course there and we'll be playing
Speaker 1: all the way through to that final. So can anybody
Speaker 1: beat them or is it just theirs to lose at
Speaker 1: this stage?
Speaker 5: Well, when you have the home final, it's yours to lose,
Speaker 5: isn't it. And to do it with two rounds to go?
Speaker 5: Is That's an essay was similar last year in terms
Speaker 5: of how dominant they were in the that's right in
Speaker 5: the season, but I mean over the course of a
Speaker 5: five day game, anything can happen in conditions we say
Speaker 5: are always good for bowling, But when when it is
Speaker 5: your home ground, do you flatten the wicket and just
Speaker 5: it's a boring drawer or at least a sporting game.
Speaker 1: I mean, draw isn't enough anymore. You know that's a
Speaker 1: good point at this point.
Speaker 5: I'm obviously not up with that, but I still think
Speaker 5: over five days you're going to have a result.
Speaker 4: When guys at the moment.
Speaker 5: Sher Creek goes to three days, doesn't it so to
Speaker 5: have an extra two days basically to find a result
Speaker 5: means they will Victoria. Just this, They've got everyone back now,
Speaker 5: don't they that there's no one missing? Matt Schortz back,
Speaker 5: Ollie peaks back from under Ninet's who's in their team?
Speaker 4: Scott Bowland? As you said, their bowls are fit so
Speaker 4: touch would? I mean? If they keep that together, they're
Speaker 4: going to be hard to beat.
Speaker 2: Glenn Maxwell, Do you bring him back in as well?
Speaker 4: There you go? Has he retired from Forte Cringett? No,
Speaker 4: he hasn't.
Speaker 5: I'm the wrong person to ask about who's retired news clearly, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but embarrassment of Riches and we spoke
Speaker 5: about their young guys coming through at the start, of
Speaker 5: the season. How they they've probably got the the most
Speaker 5: upside with young guys coming through and now they're getting
Speaker 5: him into the team that's doing well. And you know
Speaker 5: for our league, Peak's development to playing A she'll final
Speaker 5: win A, she'll final his age. What benefit they will
Speaker 5: have later in his career. So yeah, they're an amazing,
Speaker 5: amazing place going forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, w A.
Speaker 1: They have obviously had a golden generation. They won three
Speaker 1: titles in a row and two won their Cups. Adam
Speaker 1: Vogis led them through that whole period. He's going to
Speaker 1: finish up with them at the end of this season,
Speaker 1: and it does look like they're going to claim the
Speaker 1: Wooden Spoon for the second consecutive year. But despite that,
Speaker 1: he has overseen probably the most dominant period in this
Speaker 1: state's history. He's going to do some franchise stuff, he'll
Speaker 1: stick with the Scorches, but he's just going to finish
Speaker 1: up with w A. It's a sad way to finish
Speaker 1: his legacy, I suppose, but he's already done so much
Speaker 1: for them and we've seen him produce many many Australian
Speaker 1: players and win so many titles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think you say back to back spoons.
Speaker 5: But would you take that if you won three?
Speaker 2: I sure you would.
Speaker 4: I think you would.
Speaker 5: If you win three three trophies, you'd take going back
Speaker 5: a little bit. And I think the problem that their
Speaker 5: problem has been just their bowling. Whether guys have been
Speaker 5: unavailable through Australian selection in terms of GigE, I has
Speaker 5: been kind of here, there and everywhere, but also just
Speaker 5: never never had the same guys consistently on the on
Speaker 5: the field, and even this year Matt Kelly started out
Speaker 5: like a house on fire and then hasn't been able
Speaker 5: to get back. Joel Paris as well has been I
Speaker 5: mean his first class record unrivaled in terms of his numbers,
Speaker 5: but again just not being able to play consistently enough.
Speaker 5: And it's hard without that consistent bowling group. And Victoria
Speaker 5: this year in South Australia. Last year, I've proved that
Speaker 5: if you've got five or six bowlers you can kind
Speaker 5: of rotate, keep fresh. That's the secret to winning on
Speaker 5: these wickets that are so good for bowling. So but yeah,
Speaker 5: Adam Bojas, I mean amazing. He went from playing, you know,
Speaker 5: almost captain of the group to next year coach and
Speaker 5: that can be a hard transition. To go straight into
Speaker 5: coaching guys that you were having beers with last year.
Speaker 5: But he's managed to find the way to do it
Speaker 5: beautifully and he's as you said, his legacy will be
Speaker 5: there forever in terms of a three peat and then
Speaker 5: the One Day Cups they won as well, so he's
Speaker 5: turned that state around. And the players they've produced to
Speaker 5: play for Australia as well has to be mentioned because
Speaker 5: for a period of time there that wasn't coming out
Speaker 5: of WAA. Now you look at them and it's almost
Speaker 5: an international team they've produced over his tenure there.
Speaker 4: So great job from him.
Speaker 2: Totally, yep.
Speaker 1: And some young guys coming through in your Connolly's and
Speaker 1: your bid Man's and no sorts, So some good stuff
Speaker 1: happening there at WA despite the results. And you just
Speaker 1: did touch on those fast bowlers fast balling groups. Victoria
Speaker 1: obviously at the minute have Bowland, They've got Ferguson, Neil,
Speaker 1: Sam Elliott and Mitch Perry. They've all pretty much played
Speaker 1: all season. They're all up there at the top. Wicker takers.
Speaker 1: South Australia last year had those guys as well, with
Speaker 1: your McAndrews and your Doggets and your Buckinghams and he
Speaker 1: touched on bucking him a little bit earlier. But it
Speaker 1: just brought to mind that story that appeared a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago that he was the boy on the
Speaker 1: front of the Milo Cereal box.
Speaker 2: Did you see that?
Speaker 4: I didn't say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was part.
Speaker 1: Of a photo shoot when he was ten or something
Speaker 1: really and or maybe it was the Neutral Grade box.
Speaker 2: I can't really it was Malo.
Speaker 5: Well, Milo's in cricket now with the blast and stuff,
Speaker 5: but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't. This didn't come across my nest.
Speaker 5: So question that circle back to that next week. All right,
Speaker 5: they go fun fact, I'm a big fan. He was
Speaker 5: actually one of my breakout players of the year. So
Speaker 5: it was a big fan of his work and I
Speaker 5: got to mention in the Yeah, the bowling actions.
Speaker 4: So big fan of Bucky.
Speaker 5: He probably hasn't had the year on field he wanted,
Speaker 5: but he was on Sereal boxes at ten, So you're
Speaker 5: going to have these up and downs.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: He's one of these Hollywood stars from a young age,
Speaker 5: so no doubt some good seasons to come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love Bucky, so shout out to him and
Speaker 1: know that he listens to the show as well. Let's
Speaker 1: finish with Hey, Richo, We've got to listen to Questioning
Speaker 1: for you to cap this one off today. It comes
Speaker 1: in from Nigel and he says, with more Cricket on
Speaker 1: TV that you'll be watching now that you're retired. Who
Speaker 1: would your ideal commentary team be? Give us your Mount
Speaker 1: Rushmore or commentators.
Speaker 2: That's a good way to fit.
Speaker 4: In without notice as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot to go through these days too, isn't.
Speaker 4: There can we go? Is it if Mount Rushmore means
Speaker 4: dead or alive?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because we were on Richie. Yeah, Ritchie, is inn't that.
Speaker 4: Richie has to be there? He's the captain. You will
Speaker 4: always be the captain. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Ricky Ponting I think is the current day captain. Isn't
Speaker 5: he insights unrivaled crystal ball just ndictions knows what's going
Speaker 5: to happen, So always tune in when he's on.
Speaker 4: Two more.
Speaker 5: Mount Rushmore has fought, doesn't it, So yeah two more?
Speaker 5: I will go a Michael Hussey again. Okay, yep, mister cricket.
Speaker 5: If you got the nickname mister Cricket, you're going to
Speaker 5: know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Get him in the lab and get him the screens
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: And yeah, at lunch break as well, he'll be just
Speaker 5: doing something having a net. Oh, fourth is tough. There's
Speaker 5: so many good ones over the years. Funny, he's not
Speaker 5: going to make it, but p me, I love listening
Speaker 5: to Bangala.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why can't he make it?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 5: Well, there's just so many He's unlucky. He's an unlucky
Speaker 5: I'll put him as an emergency. But again, like when
Speaker 5: I was growing up, Mark Nicholas was, Yeah, Mike Athertin,
Speaker 5: like Bill Lurry, Bill Laurie, there's so many Tony Greg, Look,
Speaker 5: Captain's call. I'm going to need a I'm gonna need
Speaker 5: a phone a friend for number four because I can't.
Speaker 2: Pick who are you on a phone?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm ringing you right now and you're answering.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you've got two special comments there.
Speaker 2: We need another call.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Bill Lurry, Okay, just the Victorian bias,
Speaker 1: the screaming at the wicked.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: He's just got an iconic voice, and I wish we
Speaker 1: got to hear a bit more of it.
Speaker 5: What if what if we're what if it's t twenty game. Okay,
Speaker 5: I they okay, Yeah, that's all right. I'm not sure
Speaker 5: Ritchie would love commentating T twenties either. Maybe he'll just
Speaker 5: do the kind of as the intro, Yeah, the intro,
Speaker 5: just the important stuff as people kind of turn the
Speaker 5: TV on and then we'll get the brains trust cooking
Speaker 5: on the.
Speaker 1: Bruce mcavanie and then throw the I think that. I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: You're happy with that.
Speaker 5: I'm very happy you are a Victorian as well, so
Speaker 5: you're always going to go Bill Lurry, weren't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a Victorian.
Speaker 4: And he would he is he shield final.
Speaker 1: Wow, there's an opportunity absolutely.
Speaker 4: Get him back. Wonder what he's doing pigeons.
Speaker 2: Kitchens, I'd say so, yeah.
Speaker 4: Has he retired? I'm the wrong guy to ask.
Speaker 2: Maybe have to get him on the pope. Absolutely, all right,
Speaker 2: good stuff. Rage enjoyed that down and we'll catch you
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 4: Look forward to it. Thanks Shosh