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Speaker 1: The Unplayable Podcast is proudly presented by quantas the official

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Speaker 1: Once again this season, Quantus is proud to be flying

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Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Young Playbook Podcast. Big episode coming out

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Speaker 1: for you today with two special guests. But first let's

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Speaker 1: bring in our ever reliable co host Kane Richardson.

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Speaker 2: How's it going today?

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 4: It's good, Josh. Good to be back. Less to talk

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Speaker 4: about for Australia this week.

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Speaker 5: The boys at home and in their own beds unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: So yeah, looking forward to this and showing the fart

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Speaker 5: about some teams who probably don't normally get to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, massive episode coming up today. We've got two special guests,

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Speaker 1: as I've mentioned off for the top, Pommey and Bangwa,

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Speaker 1: the legendary broadcaster from Zimbabwe.

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Speaker 2: He's over there in India, so.

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Speaker 1: He's going to give us a bit of a lowdown

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Speaker 1: on what's happening in that tournament post Australia. And then

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Speaker 1: we've also got Xavier Doherty, the World Cup winning spinner.

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Speaker 1: Now Match referee. He's going to be joining the show

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Speaker 1: a bit later to talk about some state stuff and

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Speaker 1: what happened back in his day and his views on

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Speaker 1: spin bowling in Australia at the minute, which has been

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Speaker 1: a bit of a talking point after the Ashes series.

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Speaker 4: Did you say match referee?

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't aware of that. When did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Just this season?

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Speaker 1: He'll fill you in in just a few moments.

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Speaker 3: Rich.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's moved into a new phase of his cricketing life.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's something you could look at it down the track.

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Speaker 4: Hadn't thought about it? That was a David Boone thing,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he still does, but yeah, there

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Speaker 5: you go. Probably guys think about umpiring and media and stuff,

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Speaker 5: but probably come for your seats in the match. So

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Speaker 5: look forward to hearing from X.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the weekly winner. We didn't do it

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Speaker 1: last week because there wasn't a lot to cheer about,

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Speaker 1: but this week I just think we've got a few things,

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Speaker 1: so why don't we start with your winner of this

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Speaker 1: week Again?

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Speaker 5: This segment's always teetering on the edge of surviving every week,

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Speaker 5: so I've given it some thought with that note that

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Speaker 5: we want to keep the weekly winner going, so I

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Speaker 5: had too just in case you went first. But I'll

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Speaker 5: go to Sammy Harper for mine. For his shield exploits.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it was in the past week

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Speaker 5: since we last recorded, but I'll go with it anyway,

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Speaker 5: one hundred and nineteen and one hundred and forty one

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Speaker 5: form where he was striking at obscene numbers and ended

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Speaker 5: my career on Boxing Day. So I'll always have a

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Speaker 5: little sweet feeling for Sammy Harfer about doing that. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's exploits in that game. He's obviously as I said,

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Speaker 1: For mine, definitely, and twin tons in shefferd Shard cricket

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Speaker 1: is pretty rare. Something happened five times in the past decade,

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Speaker 1: So can you name them? I did look them up

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Speaker 5: He absolutely yeah, and has thrown up to the top

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Speaker 5: just another guy who's batting well.

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Speaker 1: For them And to all those batters who say, oh, opening,

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Speaker 1: It's dissipated all of a sudden, the smoke screens down.

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Speaker 1: So sorry, Openers, not a good look my weekly winner

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Speaker 1: I've gone for. Mitchell Stark slotted into the Channel seven

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Speaker 1: broadcast yesterday as we record this in Brisbane and just

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Speaker 5: I Reckon naturally lends itself done. Know the greats always

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Speaker 1: to get a word from our sponsors and when we

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Speaker 1: come back, we'll be talking to broadcaster Pammy and Bangwa

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Speaker 1: all the way from Mumbai. Well, interest has diminished in

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Speaker 1: and Sri Lanka. So we've called in broadcasting royalty Pommy

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Speaker 1: and Bangwa to give us the update. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Unplayable Podcast, Pummy, Hey Joe, a very well, thank you mate. Now,

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Speaker 1: this tournament has already thrown up quite a few surprises,

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Speaker 6: Far, Yeah, it would be a favorite, but kind of

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Speaker 6: Zimbabwe struggles, you know, in terms of the tournaments and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was absolutely fantastic to say from a neutral

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I reckon the most most exciting TEA twenty

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Speaker 7: Hold on super over, hold on another super over and

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Speaker 7: watch that One's a yeah? Fantastic game. And South Africa

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's your of you? Do you think this

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Speaker 3: Think you look at their team.

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Speaker 6: to see whether they can. But coming here, actually I

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Speaker 3: Now and it's just a long way out still, I

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Speaker 6: The other team that you're looking at and they're going

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Speaker 6: hold on they'll be dangerous is probably England because they're

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Speaker 3: They might well they might well win win in the edge,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, let's see how

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Speaker 3: they go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if things click for England, it could really be

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Speaker 1: danger signs for the rest of the tournament.

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Speaker 8: I suppose.

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Speaker 1: In terms of India, they had that big loss to

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Speaker 1: bad it's the first tournament without row here to without Koli.

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Speaker 1: Is this a danger sign for India or is that

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Speaker 3: It's coming to an and it comes to an end

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Speaker 1: Man, Tommy, really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 8: Mate.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, do you want to stick

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the four teams I'm looking at. Might

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Speaker 6: I always think I wonder Paki style you sneak up

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Speaker 6: Why we love it, right, because you go according to

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's how it goes.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. Thank you for your time, mate, and enjoy the

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Speaker 3: All right, cheers job, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Pommy and Bangala for joining us from the

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Speaker 4: They were my pick last week South Africa.

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Speaker 5: Historically Australian teams have always had that motto as long

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Speaker 5: batsman in the world. So to have him hitting some

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Speaker 5: form now, as we said, as we start to get

439
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Speaker 5: to the business end, is.

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Speaker 4: Such a crucial part of it.

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Speaker 5: That they're batting order again throughout most of these teams

442
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Speaker 5: are when you look at their batting order, they're going

443
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Speaker 5: to be stacked. But there's some players there that haven't

444
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Speaker 5: fired a shot yet that we know world beaters and

445
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Speaker 5: some of the best in the world at T twenty cricket.

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Speaker 5: So I guess that's what Pommy's talking about, isn't it

447
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Speaker 5: That they've got so much room for improvement and they

448
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Speaker 5: haven't really shown it yet and they're still winning. So

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Speaker 5: as much as we had it as Australians, our time

450
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Speaker 5: has come and gone. The ashes are gone, so we've

451
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Speaker 5: got to move on. And they think when in the

452
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Speaker 5: World Tea twenty and then so beare it? We'll be

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Speaker 5: fine now.

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Speaker 1: I post it to pomme that given this is the

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Speaker 1: first tournament that India are playing without row Hit and

456
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Speaker 1: without vier At, is at the start of a new era,

457
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Speaker 1: and are they still you know, the team to be?

458
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Speaker 1: They lost in a Metabad again, which is only the

459
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Speaker 1: second time after or the first time after they lost

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Speaker 1: Australia in that ODO World Cup final, and it just

461
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Speaker 1: feels like there's definitely a different vibrun on this Indian

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Speaker 1: So obviously there's still a lot of match winners in there,

463
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Speaker 1: but do they still have the do they still know

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Speaker 1: how to win without those senior heads in that group?

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Speaker 4: What was this kind of take on that?

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Speaker 1: Well, he said they're still powerhouse and they can still

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Speaker 1: do it. And they've of course got Jasper Bumer, so

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Speaker 1: with him in their side, that's four free overs basically.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, you've still got that guy.

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Speaker 5: I think the beauty of what they always have in

471
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Speaker 5: their favorites of the IPL, like how it was going

472
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Speaker 5: to keep unneerthing that next generation of cricketer, and we've

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Speaker 5: seen it with you know, the abershek coming in and

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Speaker 5: guys like that who you wouldn't normally see get an

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Speaker 5: opportunity probably until later in their careers. All of a

476
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Speaker 5: sudden they've played fifty sixty IPL games, which are the

477
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Speaker 5: equivalent of international games, with the pressure that they're under

478
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Speaker 5: and he's been flying, so it is a good point.

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Speaker 5: It probably lacks leadership on field when things are going wrong.

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Speaker 5: You would also you would love to look around and

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Speaker 5: see 're out and Row hit there or one of

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Speaker 5: them be captain calling the shots. You know, again, they've

483
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Speaker 5: won IPLs, they've won World Cups. They've done it when

484
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Speaker 5: it matters. So that's without knowing exactly in the sanctum,

485
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Speaker 5: I would dare say that's when they're missed the most.

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Speaker 5: Obviously they're batting as well, but having that calm leadership

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Speaker 5: on field and that passion.

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Speaker 4: That Via brings.

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Speaker 5: They're definitely going to take a while to replace that,

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Speaker 5: but no doubt this next generation will at some point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well yeah, there are some really exciting games coming up.

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Speaker 1: We've got West Indies against South Africa tonight, India and

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Speaker 1: Zimbabwe also that's on Thursday night, and then England take

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Speaker 1: on New Zealand on Friday night. I reckon that'll be

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Speaker 1: a really interesting one as well because the keyways. While

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Speaker 1: they're perennial semi finalists, it seems like at ICC tournament,

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Speaker 1: so they might also find a way to sneak their

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Speaker 1: way into the final four.

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Speaker 4: And no one spoken about them as as usual.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, every year or every edition of a either a

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Speaker 5: fifty year or a T twenty World Cup, they find

502
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Speaker 5: a way. It's always their semi finalist, final cockroach. You

503
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Speaker 5: just can't kill them. They just come back. So we

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Speaker 5: do enjoy their work as well because there there are neighbors,

505
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Speaker 5: aren't they.

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Speaker 1: We have to look after them, we do. Let's move

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Speaker 1: on to some test stuff then. Some news this week

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Speaker 1: that Australia's toured to South Africa to happen later this year.

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Speaker 1: The dates have been announced they're going to play three

510
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Speaker 1: od i's and three Test matches, the first time the

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Speaker 1: Test team has returned since the sandpaper scandal in twenty eighteen,

512
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Speaker 1: so it's been a long time between drinks. And those

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Speaker 1: Test matches are going to be in Durban, they're going

514
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Speaker 1: to be in Port Elizabeth now known as Gerberja and

515
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Speaker 1: Cape Town of course the scene of the crime. So

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Speaker 1: three very interesting scenarios and it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: really good series to watch, isn't that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is the two World Test Championship finalists, so

519
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Speaker 5: there's that little aspect of it as well, but also

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Speaker 5: nice for the Aussies to get back into the swing

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Speaker 5: of Test cricket after what we saw in the Ashes.

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Speaker 5: You know, you've got the Northern Test coming up and

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Speaker 5: then into that, so crickets cricket watching dream South African

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Speaker 5: Test matches are always great to watch. There's always something

525
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Speaker 5: happening in the games, are never boring. There's always enough

526
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Speaker 5: in it. For bowlers there similar conditions to Australia, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: there's always enough. And as you say, you had that

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Speaker 5: intrigue of not touring in will about eight years, well

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Speaker 5: over eight years since that, which is weird how the

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Speaker 5: world or the future tourist program works. When you've got

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Speaker 5: it feels like we're playing every other team all the time,

532
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Speaker 5: and then you don't go to STAFFCA to play test

533
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Speaker 5: series for eight years is a bit silly because they

534
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Speaker 5: always are such spicy encounters.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's one look forward to.

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Speaker 1: But I mean they're both spicy on the field, but

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Speaker 1: also the crowd seem to be pretty ferocious over there.

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Speaker 1: I mean I haven't been you've played over there in

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Speaker 1: South Africa? Did you feel that when you were there?

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Speaker 1: And do you think it's going to be the case

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Speaker 1: again when they return the Aussies?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, no doubt it would be the case again. There

543
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Speaker 5: was that series. It wasn't just sandpaper. But remember Robarda

544
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Speaker 5: was elbowing I think from memory of that same series

545
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Speaker 5: where he got did he get suspended again for elbowing

546
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Speaker 5: or you got to find or find which we don't

547
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Speaker 5: tend to see in cricket, do we. And then we

548
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Speaker 5: had all the other stuff that was going on with

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Speaker 5: the crowd, some of you know, the dress ups and

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Speaker 5: the way they just get into the game is very

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Speaker 5: similar to the way Australian crowds do it. So I

552
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Speaker 5: think it's it's similar in terms of they hate Australia,

553
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Speaker 5: they want to beat us. And I remember touring and

554
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Speaker 5: now back two years ago, just before COVID, we're playing

555
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Speaker 5: up in Potchefstrom and it's again they don't they didn't

556
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Speaker 5: get a heap of cricket at that time, so they

557
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Speaker 5: had one ODII and they made the most.

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Speaker 4: Of that hundred overs that day I play.

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Speaker 5: I think it was the last ODEI I ever played,

560
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Speaker 5: and I'm pretty happy getting off that field.

561
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Speaker 4: And never playing again.

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Speaker 5: The way I got spoken to on the boundary so wow, okay, yeah,

563
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Speaker 5: but again all in good spirit, but it's just relentless yeah.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And I suppose there was also in that tour what

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Speaker 1: there was the on field stuff and then there was

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Speaker 1: all stuff on the stair or in the stairwevels between

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Speaker 1: the two teams. So there must be some grounds where

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Speaker 1: those change rooms sort of are really close to overlapping

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Speaker 1: with each other.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think from memory that was Port Elizabeth, which

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Speaker 5: is now known as Geber.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So I didn't want to say, but you say

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Speaker 4: a lot better.

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Speaker 2: I did a bit of research this morning.

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Speaker 5: Google translated yeah pronunciation yeah.

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Speaker 4: From memory, the.

578
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Speaker 5: Stairs are based on the same and then the change

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Speaker 5: rooms go the separate way. So I don't know if

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Speaker 5: they've redeveloped the ground since then. But the tunnel vision,

581
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Speaker 5: the tunnel came yeah, hot property. Maybe they can live

582
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Speaker 5: stream that, you know, press red on your remote and

583
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Speaker 5: you get the stairwell vision as well. So but obviously personnel,

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Speaker 5: I've probably changed slightly. They with some of the key

585
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Speaker 5: figures in that stoush, So.

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Speaker 1: The chances of us seeing faft dips in the towel

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Speaker 1: again they're probably pretty slam Well.

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Speaker 5: You never know, he might come out of retirement. As

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Speaker 5: I said, I had this dream about Paran doing it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe Fat will come back for this series, Quinny de Cock,

591
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Speaker 5: Davey Warner. Maybe yeah, okay, maybe the band will get

592
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Speaker 5: back together and we'll reignite the rivalry.

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Speaker 1: On your Paran coming. I did have to also say

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Speaker 1: that I was a fan of Schlanker's chances this tournament,

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Speaker 1: and then since then they've lost to Zimbabwe and then

596
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Speaker 1: they lost again the other night.

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Speaker 5: But at least they are there competing, so I feel

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Speaker 5: like you don't even try and make the two but

599
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Speaker 5: he's not even in I don't know where he is.

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Speaker 5: He's probably off playing somewhere playing golf or something, so

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Speaker 5: at least you were somewhat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay the women's series, India won the T twenties

604
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Speaker 1: two to one, and now Australia have won the first ODI. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Alan Borderfield by six wickets with more than ten overs

606
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Speaker 1: to spare, they got those runs. Alissa Herely came back

607
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Speaker 1: with fifty. Beth Moon you got seventy six. Annabelle Sutherland

608
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Speaker 1: was forty eight not out. I feel like she's a

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Speaker 1: been under utilized in that T twenty side. She's so

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Speaker 1: far down the order. You know, we're all thinking along

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Speaker 1: the lines of Louis Cameron. She's the Blinda Clark medalist,

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Speaker 1: So let's get her up the order, get her into

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Dozsies could look to do what they did with

615
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Speaker 2: Tim David in.

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Speaker 1: The men's side and get a really powerhouse player further

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Speaker 1: up that order. And then we yeah, also had intral

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Speaker 1: Stark on com so there's lots to talk about there.

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Speaker 1: The Scoop podcast they do it really well. Run A

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Speaker 1: Hussein and Molly Strano, they cover off this series really well.

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Speaker 1: So jump over there. If you're interested, just for the

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Speaker 1: Scoop Cricket podcast on all the podcast platforms. Sarah Cooy

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Speaker 1: is this week's special guest and she's got an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: record in the WNCL as well as a very fine

625
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Speaker 1: international career about a decade ago now, but she's richo.

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Speaker 1: She's played in ten WNCL finals across three states, New

627
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Speaker 1: South Wales, South Australia and Tasmania and she's won them

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Speaker 1: all and now she's qualified for her eleventh this season.

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Speaker 2: He'd be a brave person the better, but against her.

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Speaker 4: Good luck charm ten from ten that's you know how

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Speaker 4: they get rings in. Yeah, she's got.

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Speaker 2: Everythinger and move on to her tones.

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Speaker 5: Yeah well yeah, the good point I was going to say,

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Speaker 5: she almost doesn't need to play this because she's got

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Speaker 5: nothing left to it.

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Speaker 4: But you're right, you can get toe rings gunning.

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Speaker 5: So that's an amazing record that'd be unrivaled in any

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Speaker 5: sporting code in the world. So to go eleven for

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Speaker 5: eleven New South Wales, good chance that they win with

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Speaker 5: her and the team. So yeah, incredible start.

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Speaker 1: And I found it incredible that, as you'll hear when

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Speaker 1: you listen to that interview, that she's away from the

643
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Speaker 1: game to keep fit. She's a gym trainer, she does crossfitch,

644
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Speaker 1: she does high rocks, all those sort of really intense

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Speaker 1: physical performances. I know you love that side of the

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Speaker 1: game as well, but that's how she keeps going and

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Speaker 1: keeps fitting, keeps active.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: She would be similar age to what I am, if

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Speaker 5: not a little bit. And she's still playing. And I

651
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Speaker 5: said last week Jackson Bird, Peter Siddle, all those guys

652
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Speaker 5: you got to admire, so Cody to still be playing.

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Speaker 5: I do remember when she was in South Strala, she'd

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Speaker 5: always be in the gym just pumping. And like some

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Speaker 5: of our guys, myself included, would not want to be

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Speaker 5: in the gym when she is because she would definitely upstages.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean amazing chat to have her insights

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Speaker 5: and again that record that she speaks of unrivaled, so

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Speaker 5: tune into that absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Now let's move on to the big four this week, Richard.

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Speaker 1: I posted to you just yesterday that we wanted to

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Speaker 1: get your big four this week, and the big four

663
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Speaker 1: I want to get from you is the best bowling

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Speaker 1: actions that you've seen.

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Speaker 2: So who's on the list.

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Speaker 5: So when you say best. You mean my take on

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Speaker 5: if I saw someone bowling, I would I wish I

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Speaker 5: could bowl like that, like most beautiful robotic technique.

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Speaker 1: Well not that robotic, maybe smooth maybe you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so built in a lab kind of thing

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Speaker 5: if you're going to pick your.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, is that sort of what you went for?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 5: It was, but I had a backup just in case

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Speaker 5: you were after something slightly more unique, because everyone has different.

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Speaker 2: Tastes unique bowling actions.

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Speaker 5: Well, you could say good, bad, and ugly, but we

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Speaker 5: won't say ugly. So I've gone a couple of all

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Speaker 5: timers and then a couple of current players that that

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Speaker 5: I enjoy. So my all timers are Brettley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I tried to emulate that in the backyard all the time,

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Speaker 5: and certainly the celebration as well that came with it.

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Speaker 5: But again, if I was to say a guy was

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Speaker 5: born in the lab to bowl, the action, the way

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Speaker 5: you ran in everything was towards the batsman, and that's

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Speaker 5: what we talk about as bowl as. We want everything

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Speaker 5: on towards the batsman.

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Speaker 1: So he was So you see your number four number,

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Speaker 1: he's my number.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's no number one and four they're all in

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Speaker 5: the same group, right, but he's an all timer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that celebration the chainsaw. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: bring that out? Only not just in the backyard, but

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Speaker 1: on game only.

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Speaker 4: In the backyard.

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Speaker 5: I was never cool enough to do that, so only

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Speaker 5: in the backyard, but I definitely did it all the time.

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Speaker 5: My second one is Shane Bond, and personally for me,

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Speaker 5: so the way I just loved Shane, but he was

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Speaker 5: probably my favorite ball of growing up. I had the

702
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Speaker 5: poster brittley, but I wanted to bowl like Shane Bond

703
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Speaker 5: the way he swung the ball, but the way he

704
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Speaker 5: tormented Australia, but the way his action was I think

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Speaker 5: it was just perfect rhythmic one hundred and forty five

706
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Speaker 5: in swingers destroying Australia in those old One Day Series

707
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Speaker 5: where basically every year was New Zealand out here playing

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Speaker 5: god cricket against Australia. So they're my two all timers.

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Speaker 1: And then and the ball would be brown by the

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Speaker 1: end of the reverse.

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Speaker 5: Reverse swing in swingers, yorkers back in the hand, slow

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Speaker 5: balls six.

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Speaker 4: For every game, like just a genius. So I loved

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Speaker 4: his work.

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Speaker 5: And then from the current crop, Marley Beardman, really Jordan Buckingham,

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Speaker 5: I think they're the two that really okay, I just

717
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Speaker 5: remember Bucky reminds me a little bit of Dale Stain

718
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Speaker 5: and I could have easily had him in the list,

719
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Speaker 5: but I thought I'll give the current crops some love.

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Speaker 5: Bidman from what I've seen live. And then also I

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Speaker 5: remember Cree dot Com put up him bowling in the

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Speaker 5: nets on the Aussie Camp last year. I just kept

723
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Speaker 5: watching that on Loop. I was like, this kid is

724
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Speaker 5: this is just beautiful. Just the way he again run

725
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Speaker 5: the run up is everything. And then I've got a

726
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Speaker 5: couple of honorable mentions Josh Racher, Yeah yeah, just natural rhythmic,

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Speaker 5: just strolls in, effortless strolls in. And then one that's

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Speaker 5: going to raise some eyebrows mohammed.

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Speaker 2: Shammy, hum much Shammy. Yeah, okay, because.

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Speaker 5: He looks like it hurts every single time, but again

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Speaker 5: runs in, never looks fit, never looks like yeah.

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Speaker 4: He sort of wattles in, wattles in like stutters. Every

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Speaker 4: ball looks different.

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Speaker 5: One hundred and forty five K's on a dime reverse

735
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Speaker 5: swing swing, just a genius. So I always look they're

736
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Speaker 5: probably the bowlers I love watching the most over over.

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Speaker 1: The time at his very best with the White Ball

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Speaker 1: of Shamy. Just unplayable, isn't it? And can send it

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Speaker 1: both ways.

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Speaker 5: And even in Tescary the limited stuff we saw, but

741
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Speaker 5: just always seemed to get the job done. But I

742
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Speaker 5: just love the way he waddled in and got it

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Speaker 5: down there.

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Speaker 1: So so does come into this sort of conversation or not?

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Speaker 5: Really, that's what the unique category. I had some names

746
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Speaker 5: there and he's obviously one. Yeah, who else you nolinga? Yeah,

747
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Speaker 5: Paul Adams going back a bit for people who wouldn't know,

748
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Speaker 5: but Spinner from South Africa, Frog and a Blendo?

749
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Speaker 4: Is that were they his nickname was for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Give us a demonstration.

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Speaker 5: Wow, it was kind of his head went one way

752
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 5: and his arm followed somehow lower than what his head was.

753
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Speaker 5: Zaman Khan is another one from the BBL exploits. And

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Speaker 5: there's another one I'll show you a quick glimpse of.

755
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Speaker 5: But this is a guy from the IPL back in

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. I remember watching on in my hotel. Oh course,

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Speaker 5: shik course shik Yeah, okay, yep. Did he play for

758
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Speaker 5: their one? That's the old Gujarrat Yeah, rans I think,

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Speaker 5: but they're the they're the unique category.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to have to get that picture up

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Speaker 1: on our socials so the listeners can hear. But yeah,

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: cour shik, I do remember vague memories of very unusual,

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Speaker 1: sort of uncomfortable looking at.

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Speaker 4: Very hurt watching it, laying in bed at hurt.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if he kicked on and played

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Speaker 5: more ip off he still plays somewhere, but maybe that's

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Speaker 5: a deep dovel do after the pod. But yeah, I've

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Speaker 5: gone both categories there. I really covered basis, So no

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Speaker 5: captains cool needed this week.

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I like to hear.

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Speaker 1: And if you do want to submit your favorite or

773
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Speaker 1: most unique bolling actions, get them into podcasts at cricket

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Speaker 1: dot com dot you or on the cricket dot com

775
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Speaker 1: dot you Instagram page. That's where you can hit us

776
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Speaker 1: up and let us know.

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Speaker 5: So give me some feedback. Who have I missed? Have

778
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Speaker 5: I missed anyone? Top of the head you said boom

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Speaker 5: rather is probably.

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Speaker 1: The only I thought you would have gone with your

781
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Speaker 1: old mate Frankie warrel In there with that run up, and.

782
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 5: But it's pretty, it's pretty, I mean it was, it's

783
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 5: he's straight up now it used to be from.

784
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Speaker 2: Middle oh, so because he's straightened, it's pretty.

785
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Speaker 4: Running, it's run of the mill, it's it's a good bowling.

786
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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a quick nod to our sponsors

788
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Speaker 1: and then we'll come back with zav Doherty, the new

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Speaker 1: match referee and the former Australians played out to be

790
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Speaker 1: joined by former Australian and Tasmanian spinner Xavier Doherty.

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Speaker 9: Welcome to the Unplavable podcast. Mate, how are you, thanks, Josh. Yeah,

792
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 9: it's great to be with you, really well. Thanks, I've

793
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 9: been I've been busy with cricket again this summer, which

794
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 9: has been nice. It's I've been out of the game

795
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Speaker 9: for a little while, so it's been nice to be

796
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 9: back in it and talking cricket, which is yeah both,

797
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Speaker 9: you know, one of the big parts of my life

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Speaker 9: over the journey.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, nice to be joining you.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a perfect segue because I reckon a lot

801
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: of eagle eyed fans would have noticed on a few

802
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: scorecards that the match referee is x Doherty. So how

803
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: have you got into that and what brought that about?

804
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I said, I've been away from the game.

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00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 9: Ah well, pretty much since I retired from from domestic

806
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 9: cricket in like twenty seventeen, I sort of dabbled in

807
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Speaker 9: coaching and pretty quickly found it wasn't for me, so

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00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 9: I went and lived a completely different life for seven

809
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 9: or eight years on. I etn't got myself a trade

810
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 9: and did something completely different and just enjoyed a normal

811
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Speaker 9: life for a bit to be honest. But yeah, in

812
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Speaker 9: the last twelve months I just had myself thinking about

813
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Speaker 9: what I might like to do and what I might

814
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Speaker 9: like to do within the game of cricket, and yeah,

815
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 9: there was a job advertised through Cricket Australia as a

816
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 9: match referee, and yeah, I've sort of been making away

817
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 9: a little bit around the country, but mainly based in Hobart,

818
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 9: doing hanging around some Shield games and some Second eleven

819
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 9: games WNCLWBBL and yeah, even stuck in a BBL game

820
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 9: when David Johnson went down late with some illness.

821
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Speaker 8: So it's been a bit of a hectic summer.

822
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 9: But yeah, one I've really enjoyed seeing it from a

823
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 9: different side of the fence and working with the umpires

824
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Speaker 9: and making sure players are doing all they should be doing.

825
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 9: So Yeah, thoroughly enjoyed it being back involved in the

826
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Speaker 9: game and seeing it in a completely different way.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot of work behind the scenes, but

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Speaker 1: what does it actually entail being a match referee? What

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Speaker 1: are the main things you've got to get done.

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Speaker 9: Well, you'll see a lot of the matchreffs at the

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Speaker 9: toss and that's sort of where our day kicks off.

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Speaker 9: I guess, you know, you're sort of it's basically just

833
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Speaker 9: making sure the game runs as it should. You know,

834
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Speaker 9: the umpires obviously have a role to do out on

835
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Speaker 9: the ground, and you know, they do the best they can,

836
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Speaker 9: and they'll make decisions.

837
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Speaker 8: Most will be right, a few will be wrong.

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Speaker 9: You know, we sort of evaluate that at the end

839
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Speaker 9: of the day and work with the captains just on

840
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Speaker 9: assessing the umpires, and yeah, just making sure the game

841
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 9: runs smoothly basically, and working with the umpires and the

842
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 9: captains and the players to make sure everyone's holding up

843
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 9: their end of the bargain and curators obviously, and yeah,

844
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 9: sort of just watching over the game, you know, I

845
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 9: know they do pantous occasionally. We're sitting up there, it

846
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 9: looks like we're just we're just cruising through but we are.

847
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 9: We are working, I can assure you so. And overrates

848
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 9: also play a big part of it. It's it's probably

849
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 9: not the most interesting topic, but it certainly plays a

850
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 9: big part in the role that we have.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the format. It seems like we're always

852
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: talking about over eights. So it's an ever pressent problem.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it.

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Speaker 8: It is it is.

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Speaker 1: I've also noticed that you've been doing some commentary on

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Speaker 1: the Tasmanian matches live streams on cricket dot Com dot

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Speaker 1: Au and ko Sports and Tasmania. They're looking pretty strong

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Speaker 1: in the One Day Cup at the minute, don't they.

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Speaker 1: They're going to host the final on March eleven.

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Speaker 8: They are. Yeah, So I've been sort of doing a

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Speaker 8: bit of the last tread.

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Speaker 9: When I've had some spare days or spare weeks, I'll

863
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Speaker 9: pop in and join a few of the i guess

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Speaker 9: the local media celebrities down here in Hobart who sort

865
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Speaker 9: of call the game, and I'll and I'll go in

866
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 9: and give my special comments. But it's again, it's been

867
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Speaker 9: a good way to sort of be back at the

868
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Speaker 9: cricket and watching it and for those that tune in

869
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Speaker 9: an insight into what's going on out in the field.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, it's been good. Tasmania have done have done

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Speaker 8: really well in the One Day Cup.

872
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 9: They were unbeaten until I think for five games and

873
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 9: then lost the last two are really close, one against

874
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 9: WA and then most recently they got beaten by New

875
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 9: South Wales, which is a bit of a thumping to

876
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 9: be honest down here in Hobart.

877
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 8: So they do have a very good team.

878
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 9: I think that the team they will take into the

879
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 9: final will be a little different to the one they

880
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 9: put out in the park last time round. So yeah,

881
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 9: they look like they're in a good space. They're still

882
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 9: still in the hunt for the shield as well Tasmania,

883
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 9: so of course I've got to keep neutral and just

884
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 9: watch what I say. And yeah, wearing a couple of

885
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 9: different hats certainly makes it makes it interesting. But yeah,

886
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 9: being able to watch it and bring it to those

887
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 9: who tune in being good fun.

888
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Now, tatany haven't won the One Day Cut for sixteen years,

889
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: but if we back it up back to your career,

890
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: you actually won the one they cuts three times according

891
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: to my research. Does that sound right? It's right, yeah,

892
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: And one of those titles was a really close one

893
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: wik at victory over Victoria. The scores are about one

894
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: fifty one thirty ish and and Duckworth Lewis came into

895
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: play and you've got four wickets yourself. Can you take

896
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: us back to that day? It seems like an amazing final.

897
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was like we about that era.

898
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 9: You know, there was a four or five year span

899
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 9: where Arson Victoria just played some really good type one

900
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 9: day cricket and hard and it was tough. And you

901
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 9: know that Dave Hussy and Hodge and Quiney and all

902
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 9: those guys were were Cameron White obviously like that.

903
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 8: It was a just not that teams aren't now aren't

904
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 8: aren't littered with.

905
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 9: Stars, but it just felt like every battery you came

906
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 9: up against was was just another one who's going to

907
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 9: give you some headaches when you played Victoria. Yeah, but

908
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 9: that that One Day Cup against against the Vicks here

909
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 9: in Hobart, I didn't get ma out of the match,

910
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 9: which is a bit of source of frustration. Brett Jeeves

911
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 9: I think took three for three for thirty and knocked

912
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 9: over the top order and made some runs in the

913
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 9: meantime when the game was on the line, I ran

914
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 9: down the weekend and got stumped off Bryce in the

915
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 9: game for a dark so that's probably what cost me.

916
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 9: But yeah, it was a tight contest, influenced by the rain.

917
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 9: Later it actually snowed what was at mid February, It

918
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 9: actually snowed on Mount Wellington later that night. So our

919
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 9: celebrations were not so much sitting around in a beer

920
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 9: gun somewhere, but tucked away in an old English style

921
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 9: pub and celebrating that way because it was it was

922
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 9: like a middle of winter.

923
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 8: It was like middle of winter in the middle of

924
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 8: February down here.

925
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. And so it must have come right down

926
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: to the way, as you said, Travis bert got thirty seven.

927
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: Then Ben Hilfenhouse was at the other end. He was

928
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: the number eleven that day. I had to face two

929
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: balls and Travis Burke got the job done at the

930
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: other end.

931
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

932
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 9: Well, Bertie was one of those really reliable we didn't play.

933
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 9: He might have played the odd game for Australia.

934
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 8: In the end.

935
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 9: Bertie played played a few the shortest format for Australia,

936
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 9: but like just one of the he was a great

937
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 9: cricketer to watch, one of my favorite cricketers to watch

938
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 9: Travis Burt so entertaining and so reliable, particularly in the

939
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 9: shortest form of the game.

940
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 8: So yeah, he held us together. As I mentioned, I

941
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 8: was not much help.

942
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 9: I think I faced three balls and then ran down

943
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 9: the wicket like a hero and tried to try to

944
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 9: get on with it.

945
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 8: And then hell, yeah he'll who.

946
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 9: I think that's Health became a really good batter later

947
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 9: in his career, but found himself batting at eleven just

948
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 9: at that moment, but his improvements were to come. But yeah,

949
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 9: importantly for us, he held on long enough. I guess

950
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 9: Sane Harwood I reckon would have been those two balls

951
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 9: that he had to face. And Hardwood at the time

952
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 9: was top of his game, bowling really fast, really fast,

953
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 9: and not nice to be facing as a number eleven.

954
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 9: So yeah, fortunately for us, Bertie got the job done,

955
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 9: and yeah, a little bit of help from Health.

956
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: He mentioned some of those Victorian players there, Dodge Hussy Wife.

957
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: They also had Andrew McDonald, Michael Klinger, Rob Quiney. Were

958
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: there any players in particular that you really enjoyed getting out?

959
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 9: Dave Hussey was no doubt my favorite guy to get out,

960
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 9: and not that it happened that often, which is why

961
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 9: I actually think I did get him that day in

962
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 9: the final, but it didn't.

963
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 8: It didn't happen very often.

964
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 9: You know, Dave Hussy absolutely bullied me in all forms

965
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 9: of cricket. I played a lot of cricket, a lot

966
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 9: of cricket for Australia dominated state cricket Huss, so I

967
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 9: ended up playing a little bit of international cricket with

968
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 9: him as well, so got to know him away from

969
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 9: away from the ground as well. So but yeah, certainly

970
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 9: knocking Dave Hussy over was a nice It was a

971
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 9: nice moment that day. And yeah, like I said, I'm

972
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 9: trying to think of it off the top of my

973
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 9: head now, I'm not sure it happened too many other times.

974
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 8: So yeah, to get it done in the final was nice.

975
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Well, Huss had a decent run in the eusty side

976
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: and you had a good period as well yourself, about

977
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: five years in the one day side and a couple

978
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: of years in the T twenty side. That included going

979
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: to the twenty twelve T twenty World Cup, which was

980
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: the last time that this tournament was held in Sri

981
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: Lanka similar to this one. At the minute, what is

982
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: it about playing in Shri Lanka. That just seems so

983
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: different to playing in others continental places. It just seems

984
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: like it's a different ball game, even when you're compared

985
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: to somewhere so close like India.

986
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, people look at Indian cricket and they you know,

987
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 9: I watched the Test cricket and they see the wickets

988
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 9: spin and bounce and they are really foreign conditions for

989
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 9: particularly Australian players. But their one day cricket is not

990
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 9: like that. There one day cricket, they're really high scoring matches,

991
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 9: fast wickets, smallish grounds. Was in Sri Lanka, the short

992
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 9: the T twenty games, particularly in Colombo, all spinning sideways,

993
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 9: absolutely spinning sideways that you know, playing on used wickets,

994
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 9: reused wickets, damp wickets most of the times there's a

995
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 9: heck of a heck of a lot of rain going on.

996
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 8: I think we played in September.

997
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 9: Well, we did play in September because my daughter was

998
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 9: born mid tournament that that twenty twelve, I ducked home

999
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 9: for five days for my daughter to be born, and

1000
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 9: then I went back to the back to the World Cup.

1001
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 8: So I missed the game.

1002
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 9: But yeah, September, so I was I don't know if

1003
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 9: that's monsoon season, but I know there was.

1004
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 8: There was quite a bit of rain around and they've

1005
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 8: had similar for this tournament as well.

1006
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 9: But yeah, the T twenty games, the wickets are really

1007
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 9: stoppy and sturdy and you know a lot of bounces,

1008
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 9: as the Aussies found when they when they took on

1009
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 9: their games at the Prematassa as well.

1010
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 8: So yeah, they really are foreign conditions, even in even

1011
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 8: in T twenty cricket.

1012
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: And I saw it in a few of those scorecards.

1013
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: You were bowling in tend and with Brad Holk, I

1014
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: can't imagine you would have bowling tending with another left

1015
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: arm spinner of too many occasions.

1016
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was an interesting one.

1017
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 9: And like I say, I think Glenn Maxwell played in

1018
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 9: that team as well, and more often than I would

1019
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 9: have bowled his allotment of over so that probably suggests how,

1020
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 9: you know, the conditions that we were playing in. Yeah,

1021
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 9: there was lots of spin beings thrown at us and

1022
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 9: we tried to sort of combat that a little bit

1023
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 9: as well, not so successfully when we took on the

1024
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 9: West Indies eventually, but yeah, that Yeah, Hogy was another

1025
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 9: guy who you know i'd watch a lot on TV,

1026
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 9: but you know, never really come you must have to

1027
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 9: do with him until that tournament, so he had to

1028
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 9: spend a couple of weeks on tour with Hogie.

1029
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 8: Was certainly very interesting, and yeah, he did quite well.

1030
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 9: He was in his forties by then, or maybe or

1031
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 9: touching forty, so yeah, a pretty amazing effort for someone

1032
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 9: of his heat, you know, not to be disrespectful to.

1033
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 8: Be playing at the highest level.

1034
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what are you doing?

1035
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: You should still be out there if that's the if

1036
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: that's okay.

1037
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 9: He's making me look stupid now, isn't he. So yeah,

1038
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 9: Unfortunately I love watching the game, but my love of

1039
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 9: playing sort of sort of dwindled a little while ago.

1040
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 9: So no, he can have that one.

1041
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: But you mentioned you played against the Western He's in

1042
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: the semi final. They got the better of you guys

1043
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: on that occasion and they went on to win the tournament.

1044
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: But do you have any memories of that game, particularly

1045
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: because at their very best, the wind Is are an

1046
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: incredible TEA twenty side.

1047
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1048
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I had Marlon Samuel's Plumber ll

1049
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 9: BW early on, which I won't out the umpire, but

1050
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 9: I didn't do any favors that day, No reviews available,

1051
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 9: No review I don't think we weren't playing reviews at

1052
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 9: that time in T twenty cricket, so I didn't have

1053
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 9: that one to rely on.

1054
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, it didn't.

1055
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 9: I think George was the captain and sort of tried

1056
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 9: to get Gail and Pollard and just sort of throw

1057
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 9: pace at them, which which was good, but it didn't work,

1058
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 9: which sort of meant that he saved a lot of

1059
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 9: the spin for later on in the innings. So unfortunately,

1060
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 9: I found myself bowling the nineteenth and twentieth over and

1061
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 9: not faring so well against a couple of the biggest

1062
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 9: hitters in world cricket at that time. So yeah, unfortunately,

1063
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 9: I think they look like they were going to score

1064
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 9: sort of one eighty one ninety and eventually you might

1065
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 9: have the school cut in front of you there. Josh

1066
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 9: was two twenty ish, I reckon so which in the

1067
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 9: end was too many for us. So despite playing some

1068
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 9: pretty good cricket to that point, that's the nature of

1069
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 9: tournament cricket.

1070
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 8: You have one bad day.

1071
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 9: Or a little five bad five overs and it sort

1072
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 9: of cost us. So yeah, we found ourselves heading home early.

1073
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Four for two five, so not quite as many as that,

1074
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: but a good score.

1075
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 9: Nonetheless, Yeah, it sort of felt like two twenty when

1076
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 9: I was out there bowling. It just seemed like every

1077
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 9: sequment were every ball was going either over over the

1078
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 9: fence or to it.

1079
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 8: So yeah, it was, it was, it was. It wasn't nice,

1080
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 8: to be honest, but.

1081
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 9: A bit of a daunting but a but a got

1082
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 9: a learning a learning period in the cricket no doubt.

1083
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: And now that you're back in the cricket scene, you

1084
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: would have watched a fair bit this summer. What are

1085
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the spin bowling scene at the minute

1086
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: in Australian cricket, particularly the men's side of things. We

1087
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of it during the ashes and

1088
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of green pictures. Where do you

1089
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Speaker 1: think we're going with spin bowling in this country?

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, like you mentioned, I've been doing a bit

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Speaker 9: of the shield streaming down here in hobartn't it like?

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Speaker 8: To be honest, you hardly see any spin bowling. You

1093
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 8: rarely see it.

1094
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 9: You see international spinners playing in the game, but they

1095
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 9: really bowl, you know. Matt Kerneman has barely bowled for

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00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 9: Tasmania this year. We had the new South Wales guys

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00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 9: down here last week and Tamby sang A hardly bowled.

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00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 8: Joel Davies played that and didn't really bowl a lot.

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Speaker 9: So it is it is a tough scene for for

1100
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 9: the spinners, and you know, it felt like it was

1101
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 9: tough when I was playing. I think it's I think

1102
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 9: it's got even harder for them to make an impact.

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00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 9: So I know that Corey Rocaicelli's doing, you know, really

1104
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 9: well in Perth. You know, the whacker over the last

1105
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 9: few years has started to take a bit of spin

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00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 9: and you know he's watching him develop and his skill

1107
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 9: set's been really impressive. Impressive. Todd Murphy, he's obviously he's

1108
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 9: obviously doing well. And Mitch Webson, you know, got some

1109
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 9: wickets last week in there in the one day game

1110
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 9: which was good as well.

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Speaker 8: So that and that's the other thing.

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Speaker 9: You know, when when one day games sort of get

1113
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 9: cut back, I think it's down to seven now, you

1114
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 9: know that's there used to be ten. That's three opportunities

1115
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 9: where where spinners don't get to sort of be at

1116
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 9: the forefront and show their skills. But you know, when

1117
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 9: particularly there's a shortage in Shield cricket, so it is

1118
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 9: a really tough game and it was it was hard

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Speaker 9: to watch that. And you know, I don't blame the

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Speaker 9: Aussies for not picking a spinner in that that SCG Test.

1121
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 9: You've got to pick the team that that's that's the

1122
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 9: best chance of winning it. But it is a shame

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Speaker 9: that we've got to the point where a ground like

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00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 9: the s c G, which is so well known for

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00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 9: producing top class spin performances, is you know, now you're

1126
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 9: sort of relying on your part time as so hopefully

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00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 9: it comes back.

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Speaker 8: And I know the Ossies traveled to India next year, they're.

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00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 9: Going to be relying on on some spinners to stand

1130
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 9: up and be counted. And you know, if they are

1131
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 9: going to be a chance in that series, they'll they'll

1132
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 9: need to get some games and some time into them

1133
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 9: and get their confidence up and and be well prepared.

1134
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 9: So I'm sure Cricket Australia are aware of it and

1135
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 9: they're doing all they can. But you know, we've got

1136
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 9: quicks that are at the in the twilight of their

1137
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 9: career and we can't rely on them forever. So yeah,

1138
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 9: maybe maybe, and they've been generational, you unbelievable. You know,

1139
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 9: they'll go down in history as some of the best

1140
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 9: we've seen, but you know they're not going to be

1141
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 9: around forever, so we might have to look at other

1142
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 9: venues of getting twenty wickets in a Test match, So

1143
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 9: maybe spin will be it.

1144
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And well you mentioned Rocketcolie and Murphy and swepts

1145
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: in there. Are there any other maybe younger spinners who

1146
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: have caught your eye across this season?

1147
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 8: Younger?

1148
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 9: Well, I know it's been so tough like Tanby sang

1149
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 9: As a guy who who's particularly played the shorter format

1150
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 9: and done quite well. But like I mentioned, it's been

1151
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 9: so hard to get any opportunities in in Shield cricket.

1152
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 9: It's been tough like Cooney down here in Hobart, you know,

1153
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 9: I know he's injured for a little a little part

1154
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 9: of the start of the Shield season.

1155
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: Then he goes away.

1156
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 9: With with the Aussies and and and sort of misses

1157
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 9: an opportunity to play a lot of Shield cricket there

1158
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 9: as well. So there are some really good spinners out there,

1159
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 9: so that the cupboards not there. But you know, in

1160
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 9: an ideal world, you'd like you'd like to see him.

1161
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 9: Are you getting getting some opportunities bowling a lot of overs,

1162
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 9: but also a lot of overs when it's spinning, and

1163
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 9: you know they've got a chance to be a match

1164
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 9: winner and and put up some some really good numbers.

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00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 9: Because for those for those people who don't who don't

1166
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 9: watch your cricket and they just sort of check in

1167
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 9: on a scorecard, they'll see that you know, Shwrep's have

1168
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 9: only got one wicket in the fourth innings or ROCKETCELLI

1169
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 9: only gets three for the game. But you know, it

1170
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 9: doesn't sort of reflect their performances. So it's tough going

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00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 9: out there. And certainly, look I mentioned they go, when

1172
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 9: they go to the subcontinent, they'll be have the ball

1173
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 9: thrown to them in the the fifth over.

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00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 8: It's like, you know, good luck.

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00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 9: You know, if we don't have them bowling in similar

1176
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 9: conditions and that's their first taste of it, it's it's

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00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 9: not as easy as it sounds just to flick a

1178
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 9: switch and start, you know, trying to win a game

1179
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 9: for your country.

1180
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 8: If you haven't been doing a lot of it.

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00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right now. Before I let you go, Xavier,

1182
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: I want to ask lots of great lights throughout your career.

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00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: Part of the World Cup winning squad in twenty fifteen,

1184
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: A baggy green to your name, but surely none of

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00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: that is as high on your list as taking the

1186
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: first Big Bash hat trick way back.

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00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, well that's it. It was.

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00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, when everyone gets mentioned, people just keep telling me

1189
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 9: that that that the last Helby w was missing off stuff.

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00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 8: It's like, who cares?

1191
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 9: Like it was a sweepshoot that looked out Umpire gave

1192
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 9: it out. You know, we had we had a full

1193
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 9: house in Hobart that day. And you know, I think

1194
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 9: every year when the Big Bats rolls around, it gets

1195
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 9: it gets a few clips on on Instagram and Facebook

1196
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 9: and whatever else.

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00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 8: So my kids love love it. So oh yeah it was.

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 8: It was certainly a highlight.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, as you mentioned, the World Cup and that

1200
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 9: Ashes series unfortunately didn't go the way that we planned it.

1201
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 9: But getting a bagg of green was was right up there,

1202
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 9: as was some of the Shield wins as well.

1203
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 8: You know, I played in the Shield win, which growing

1204
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 8: up watching Tazzy play.

1205
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 9: And you know I missed out on them winning their

1206
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 9: first one, so to win in ten or eleven was

1207
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 9: another high lot as well. So yeah, but yeah, I

1208
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 9: I feel very fortunate at the end, looking back, it

1209
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 9: could work quite a few to pick from, So yeah,

1210
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 9: across all formats.

1211
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Speaker 8: So I feel very lucky to have had the cricket

1212
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Speaker 8: journey that I did.

1213
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Speaker 1: And I was just scanning through a few scorecards before

1214
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: he chatted some big names that you've taken as well

1215
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: as Ja Warden, sang Takara. Are those sorts any that

1216
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: stick out as favorite wickets you take?

1217
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I got Mahala out a couple of

1218
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 9: times early where I reckon he just dropped his guard

1219
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 9: against you know, this young left arm, this young left

1220
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 9: arm off.

1221
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 8: He so I don't know.

1222
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, and getting Kumar out, I think I got him out.

1223
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 9: I think I might have only got him out. I

1224
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 9: got him out on debut as well. You know, it

1225
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 9: was actually a really nice ball that he tried to

1226
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 9: sweep and it was just like the perfect scene to

1227
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 9: a left hand I like just sort of perfect scene,

1228
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 9: perfect rotations, and yeah, knocked over his leag stump. So

1229
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 9: certainly knocking over those two who are again one of

1230
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 9: the greats of international cricket, particularly in the last sort

1231
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 9: of thirty years.

1232
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly right up there.

1233
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Good ones have in the back pocket for sure where's

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00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: the baggy green? Is it on display or is it

1235
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: tucked away ANISOCTA or somewhere.

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00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 9: This is funny because I've actually just walked into my

1237
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 9: bedroom and it's in my It's in my bedside.

1238
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 8: Draw there it is.

1239
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 9: And to be fair, that's the first time it's been

1240
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 9: dragged out and that's that is the honest truth since

1241
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 9: since my kids went and grabbed it out, maybe maybe

1242
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 9: eighteen months ago. So it's not certainly not on display.

1243
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 9: Maybe it will be one day, but just sits in

1244
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 9: its bag in the bedside drawer and yeah, really rarely

1245
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 9: sees the.

1246
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 8: Light of day.

1247
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: Don't let them schedule it, mate, and make sure it's

1248
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: taken care of.

1249
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 8: No, I'll look after it. So all good, good stuff.

1250
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: I'll appreciate your time. Thanks for the chat and all

1251
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: the best with the match referee and.

1252
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 8: Going forward lovely. Thanks for your time, Josh.

1253
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: All right, So that was zab Doughty new match referee

1254
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, some really good highlights during his Australian career

1255
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: four Test matches. As he said, there he's keeping the

1256
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: baggy green in the bedside table. At the minute, I

1257
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: would have thought, I mean, this is coming from a

1258
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: very much a non player. But if I played Test cricket, frustrata,

1259
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: I'm having that baggy green on display in a cabinet,

1260
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: in a frame somewhere. You got to know you've got

1261
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: to put it on show, surely.

1262
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 5: On the mantle piece, at least on the bedside.

1263
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, wouldn't you You would have thought, But nah,

1264
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: his was tucked away neatly and he said he doesn't

1265
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: bring it out ever. So yeah, I guess that's each

1266
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: individual's choice, but I'd be putting it on display.

1267
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 3: I reckon.

1268
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 5: It's a good question to ask passed players when you

1269
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 5: get them on for future, anyone who's played Test career.

1270
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: I do remember going to have sewn Tate's house ones

1271
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 5: we were there, it was like a house party and

1272
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 5: were we'd had a few and I'd asked him where's

1273
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 5: your baggy and he actually didn't know so and knowing him,

1274
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 5: he's not lying either.

1275
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: He would have no idea where it is.

1276
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 5: So if you live next to an ex Test cricketer,

1277
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 5: it's a good chance it could be laying around in

1278
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 5: their backyard to keep an eye on it.

1279
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1280
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: Wow, A lot of people said to the most prized

1281
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: position but again again, I mean I suppose for some

1282
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: people like Sewn Tates who maybe aren't as obsessed with

1283
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. It's just another piece of cree kit,

1284
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that.

1285
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: What it is?

1286
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 5: But it is the most prized in Australia. Is it

1287
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 5: Australian sport or Australian Well, it's obviously astrain cricket. It'd

1288
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 5: be up there in Australian sport, up there in world sport.

1289
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Well, there's not that many other similar things.

1290
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: Symbolic, isn't it.

1291
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1292
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 5: So, but again, like you say, some people their upbringings

1293
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: are a bit different.

1294
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: Shawn grew up in.

1295
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 5: The bush and I'm not sure I ever thought he

1296
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: was going to play test cricket, So Travi Head would

1297
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 5: be another one he finishes playing.

1298
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 4: I wonder what he'll do.

1299
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: With his memorabilia because I can't imagine it's going to

1300
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 5: be on display in the house.

1301
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: Well yep, you'd know better than I would. Let's go

1302
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: to the Shield and the domestic side of things. As

1303
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: we touched on with ex Tasmania are into the One

1304
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: Day Cup Final. They're going to play New South Wales

1305
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: on March eleven. It's been sixteen years since Tazzy have

1306
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: won the One Day Cup, in fact since Xavier was playing.

1307
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: So they look good at the minute, but they've lossed

1308
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: their last couple although they will be Both of these

1309
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: teams will be pretty stacked come that final in March eleven,

1310
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: so it's going to be down in Hobart. The Blues

1311
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: just beat them there last week pretty convincingly. Curtis Patterson

1312
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: is on track for one of the most prolific One

1313
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: Day series of all time.

1314
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: Who's your pick for this one?

1315
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 5: Well, I did say at the start of the summer

1316
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: that had good feelings about taz May did didn't you?

1317
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 5: And I may have been talking to Shield Cricket, but

1318
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 5: let's not worry about that now. So I think at

1319
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 5: home you say they beat them last week there was

1320
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 5: a few guys not playing that maybe will in the final.

1321
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 5: I wonder Nathan Ellis will he be available to play?

1322
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: You know?

1323
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 5: And then do new Soth the Wales get their full

1324
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 5: repertoire players available is with Steve Smith is Mitchell Stark

1325
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: still around, So there's a few questions that need to

1326
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 5: be answered. But I think if you if you're going

1327
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 5: off what we saw last week with Tazzy's additions. I

1328
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 5: know Jordan Silk didn't play, so I still like them

1329
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 5: and Mitchell and the way he started that innings. If

1330
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 5: you just didn't manage to nick that one, I think

1331
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 5: he would have possibly made one hundred and fifty off

1332
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 5: fifty balls, So they're dangerous Tazzy. But also New South

1333
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 5: Wales have come really good after the Big Bash, haven't

1334
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 5: they so, which is interesting with everything that's there off field,

1335
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 5: how they've kind of turned things around. So it's always

1336
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 5: good to see New South Wales playing well because there

1337
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 5: is a famous sign in the change rooms of the

1338
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 5: SCG when a New South Wales cricket is strong, Australian

1339
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 5: cricket is strong, and we're starting to see New Southwalest

1340
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 5: bounce back, so.

1341
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: It's good for everyone.

1342
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Is that where that saying comes from?

1343
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: The SG?

1344
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 4: It's in the It's Don Bradman signed frame.

1345
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: I was.

1346
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 5: I really wanted to steal it and put it up

1347
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 5: in my shed at home, but I thought it's probably

1348
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,479
Speaker 5: been there one hundred years, so I'm not sure if

1349
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 5: it's the origins are from that well, it's obviously not

1350
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 5: from that photo, but it's a famous saying going way

1351
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 5: back slightly arrogant. But we've all heard the saying though,

1352
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 5: haven't we. Yeah, it's a famous one. So New South

1353
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 5: Wales are coming good, so Australia. Australian fans get excited.

1354
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: That would be a real power play to bring Stark

1355
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: Smith back. Just parachute them in for the final. It's

1356
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: been done before. Zampa, Zampa, Yeah, what do you Yeah,

1357
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: if you're Greg Shippard and you're in your last match

1358
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: coaching this side, are you wanting to bring those big

1359
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: guns in or are you going to stick with the

1360
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: guys who have got you to that position.

1361
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 5: You're doing whatever you have to do to win you

1362
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 5: so as much as it would suck for the young

1363
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 5: guys that played last week and got him into a final,

1364
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 5: sorry Tanverer Adam or they go to spin and sorry,

1365
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 5: I don't know who am I missing, but someone else

1366
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 5: that's probably played all year, that has done really well

1367
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 5: that doesn't I don't know.

1368
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 8: Won.

1369
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 5: I doubt it happens because I think those guys would

1370
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 5: probably say no, But watch this space.

1371
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: You never know.

1372
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: In the Sheffield Shield, the Vicks they are going to

1373
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: host that Shield final. Two rounds still to go and

1374
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: they've already locked it away. So they have just been

1375
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: the dominant team so far this season. Queensland and South

1376
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: Australia battling out for second place at the minute, I

1377
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: mean Tasmania and you said, well, it was still a

1378
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: slim chance of qualifying, but you'd have to say it's

1379
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: between the Bulls and the former Redbacks now at the minute.

1380
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: As you touched on, Sammy Harper was the star of

1381
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: last round with two said trees and yeah, I mean

1382
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: it's really just who's going to make out the numbers.

1383
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: It seems like at the minute the Vics looks super strong.

1384
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: They've got a totally stacked team at the minute, Scott

1385
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: bold And is of course there and we'll be playing

1386
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: all the way through to that final. So can anybody

1387
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: beat them or is it just theirs to lose at

1388
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: this stage?

1389
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 5: Well, when you have the home final, it's yours to lose,

1390
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: isn't it. And to do it with two rounds to go?

1391
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 5: Is That's an essay was similar last year in terms

1392
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 5: of how dominant they were in the that's right in

1393
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 5: the season, but I mean over the course of a

1394
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 5: five day game, anything can happen in conditions we say

1395
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 5: are always good for bowling, But when when it is

1396
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 5: your home ground, do you flatten the wicket and just

1397
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 5: it's a boring drawer or at least a sporting game.

1398
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, draw isn't enough anymore. You know that's a

1399
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: good point at this point.

1400
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 5: I'm obviously not up with that, but I still think

1401
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 5: over five days you're going to have a result.

1402
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 4: When guys at the moment.

1403
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 5: Sher Creek goes to three days, doesn't it so to

1404
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 5: have an extra two days basically to find a result

1405
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 5: means they will Victoria. Just this, They've got everyone back now,

1406
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 5: don't they that there's no one missing? Matt Schortz back,

1407
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 5: Ollie peaks back from under Ninet's who's in their team?

1408
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: Scott Bowland? As you said, their bowls are fit so

1409
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 4: touch would? I mean? If they keep that together, they're

1410
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 4: going to be hard to beat.

1411
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: Glenn Maxwell, Do you bring him back in as well?

1412
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 4: There you go? Has he retired from Forte Cringett? No,

1413
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: he hasn't.

1414
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 5: I'm the wrong person to ask about who's retired news clearly, Yeah,

1415
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but embarrassment of Riches and we spoke

1416
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 5: about their young guys coming through at the start, of

1417
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 5: the season. How they they've probably got the the most

1418
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 5: upside with young guys coming through and now they're getting

1419
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 5: him into the team that's doing well. And you know

1420
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 5: for our league, Peak's development to playing A she'll final

1421
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 5: win A, she'll final his age. What benefit they will

1422
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: have later in his career. So yeah, they're an amazing,

1423
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 5: amazing place going forward.

1424
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, w A.

1425
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: They have obviously had a golden generation. They won three

1426
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: titles in a row and two won their Cups. Adam

1427
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Vogis led them through that whole period. He's going to

1428
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: finish up with them at the end of this season,

1429
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: and it does look like they're going to claim the

1430
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: Wooden Spoon for the second consecutive year. But despite that,

1431
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: he has overseen probably the most dominant period in this

1432
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: state's history. He's going to do some franchise stuff, he'll

1433
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: stick with the Scorches, but he's just going to finish

1434
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: up with w A. It's a sad way to finish

1435
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: his legacy, I suppose, but he's already done so much

1436
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: for them and we've seen him produce many many Australian

1437
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: players and win so many titles.

1438
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think you say back to back spoons.

1439
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 5: But would you take that if you won three?

1440
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:31,479
Speaker 2: I sure you would.

1441
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: I think you would.

1442
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 5: If you win three three trophies, you'd take going back

1443
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 5: a little bit. And I think the problem that their

1444
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 5: problem has been just their bowling. Whether guys have been

1445
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 5: unavailable through Australian selection in terms of GigE, I has

1446
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 5: been kind of here, there and everywhere, but also just

1447
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 5: never never had the same guys consistently on the on

1448
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 5: the field, and even this year Matt Kelly started out

1449
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 5: like a house on fire and then hasn't been able

1450
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 5: to get back. Joel Paris as well has been I

1451
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 5: mean his first class record unrivaled in terms of his numbers,

1452
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 5: but again just not being able to play consistently enough.

1453
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 5: And it's hard without that consistent bowling group. And Victoria

1454
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 5: this year in South Australia. Last year, I've proved that

1455
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 5: if you've got five or six bowlers you can kind

1456
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 5: of rotate, keep fresh. That's the secret to winning on

1457
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 5: these wickets that are so good for bowling. So but yeah,

1458
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 5: Adam Bojas, I mean amazing. He went from playing, you know,

1459
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 5: almost captain of the group to next year coach and

1460
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 5: that can be a hard transition. To go straight into

1461
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 5: coaching guys that you were having beers with last year.

1462
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 5: But he's managed to find the way to do it

1463
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 5: beautifully and he's as you said, his legacy will be

1464
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 5: there forever in terms of a three peat and then

1465
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 5: the One Day Cups they won as well, so he's

1466
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 5: turned that state around. And the players they've produced to

1467
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 5: play for Australia as well has to be mentioned because

1468
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 5: for a period of time there that wasn't coming out

1469
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 5: of WAA. Now you look at them and it's almost

1470
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 5: an international team they've produced over his tenure there.

1471
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 4: So great job from him.

1472
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: Totally, yep.

1473
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: And some young guys coming through in your Connolly's and

1474
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: your bid Man's and no sorts, So some good stuff

1475
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: happening there at WA despite the results. And you just

1476
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: did touch on those fast bowlers fast balling groups. Victoria

1477
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 1: obviously at the minute have Bowland, They've got Ferguson, Neil,

1478
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: Sam Elliott and Mitch Perry. They've all pretty much played

1479
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: all season. They're all up there at the top. Wicker takers.

1480
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: South Australia last year had those guys as well, with

1481
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: your McAndrews and your Doggets and your Buckinghams and he

1482
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: touched on bucking him a little bit earlier. But it

1483
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: just brought to mind that story that appeared a couple

1484
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: of weeks ago that he was the boy on the

1485
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: front of the Milo Cereal box.

1486
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: Did you see that?

1487
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 4: I didn't say it.

1488
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was part.

1489
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: Of a photo shoot when he was ten or something

1490
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: really and or maybe it was the Neutral Grade box.

1491
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: I can't really it was Malo.

1492
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 5: Well, Milo's in cricket now with the blast and stuff,

1493
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 5: but I don't know.

1494
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 4: I didn't. This didn't come across my nest.

1495
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 5: So question that circle back to that next week. All right,

1496
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 5: they go fun fact, I'm a big fan. He was

1497
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 5: actually one of my breakout players of the year. So

1498
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 5: it was a big fan of his work and I

1499
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 5: got to mention in the Yeah, the bowling actions.

1500
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 4: So big fan of Bucky.

1501
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 5: He probably hasn't had the year on field he wanted,

1502
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 5: but he was on Sereal boxes at ten, So you're

1503
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 5: going to have these up and downs.

1504
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: You know.

1505
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 5: He's one of these Hollywood stars from a young age,

1506
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 5: so no doubt some good seasons to come.

1507
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love Bucky, so shout out to him and

1508
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 1: know that he listens to the show as well. Let's

1509
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: finish with Hey, Richo, We've got to listen to Questioning

1510
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: for you to cap this one off today. It comes

1511
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: in from Nigel and he says, with more Cricket on

1512
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: TV that you'll be watching now that you're retired. Who

1513
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: would your ideal commentary team be? Give us your Mount

1514
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Rushmore or commentators.

1515
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: That's a good way to fit.

1516
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 4: In without notice as well.

1517
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot to go through these days too, isn't.

1518
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 4: There can we go? Is it if Mount Rushmore means

1519
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: dead or alive?

1520
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1521
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because we were on Richie. Yeah, Ritchie, is inn't that.

1522
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: Richie has to be there? He's the captain. You will

1523
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 4: always be the captain. Yeah.

1524
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 5: Ricky Ponting I think is the current day captain. Isn't

1525
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 5: he insights unrivaled crystal ball just ndictions knows what's going

1526
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 5: to happen, So always tune in when he's on.

1527
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: Two more.

1528
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 5: Mount Rushmore has fought, doesn't it, So yeah two more?

1529
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 5: I will go a Michael Hussey again. Okay, yep, mister cricket.

1530
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 5: If you got the nickname mister Cricket, you're going to

1531
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 5: know what's going on.

1532
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: Get him in the lab and get him the screens

1533
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff.

1534
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 5: And yeah, at lunch break as well, he'll be just

1535
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 5: doing something having a net. Oh, fourth is tough. There's

1536
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 5: so many good ones over the years. Funny, he's not

1537
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 5: going to make it, but p me, I love listening

1538
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 5: to Bangala.

1539
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, why can't he make it?

1540
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: Then?

1541
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 5: Well, there's just so many He's unlucky. He's an unlucky

1542
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 5: I'll put him as an emergency. But again, like when

1543
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 5: I was growing up, Mark Nicholas was, Yeah, Mike Athertin,

1544
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 5: like Bill Lurry, Bill Laurie, there's so many Tony Greg, Look,

1545
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 5: Captain's call. I'm going to need a I'm gonna need

1546
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 5: a phone a friend for number four because I can't.

1547
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: Pick who are you on a phone?

1548
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm ringing you right now and you're answering.

1549
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you've got two special comments there.

1550
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: We need another call.

1551
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Bill Lurry, Okay, just the Victorian bias,

1552
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: the screaming at the wicked.

1553
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: I love it.

1554
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: He's just got an iconic voice, and I wish we

1555
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: got to hear a bit more of it.

1556
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 5: What if what if we're what if it's t twenty game. Okay,

1557
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 5: I they okay, Yeah, that's all right. I'm not sure

1558
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 5: Ritchie would love commentating T twenties either. Maybe he'll just

1559
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 5: do the kind of as the intro, Yeah, the intro,

1560
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 5: just the important stuff as people kind of turn the

1561
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 5: TV on and then we'll get the brains trust cooking

1562
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 5: on the.

1563
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: Bruce mcavanie and then throw the I think that. I

1564
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: think that's pretty good.

1565
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 4: You're happy with that.

1566
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 5: I'm very happy you are a Victorian as well, so

1567
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 5: you're always going to go Bill Lurry, weren't you.

1568
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a Victorian.

1569
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 4: And he would he is he shield final.

1570
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: Wow, there's an opportunity absolutely.

1571
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 4: Get him back. Wonder what he's doing pigeons.

1572
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,520
Speaker 2: Kitchens, I'd say so, yeah.

1573
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 4: Has he retired? I'm the wrong guy to ask.

1574
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 2: Maybe have to get him on the pope. Absolutely, all right,

1575
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 2: good stuff. Rage enjoyed that down and we'll catch you

1576
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 2: next week.

1577
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 4: Look forward to it. Thanks Shosh