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Speaker 1: Great per flick with ben Ohe oh Ben, Hello, hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: you've been off on a junker. Yes, here's the hand.

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Speaker 2: Here's the hand that has touched Pedro Pascal. Don't wash it.

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Speaker 1: There was a queue to touch your hand this morning

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Speaker 1: because it's touched Pedro Pasca. Can you tell us quickly

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Speaker 1: why the hand ended up in the hands?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes. So I interviewed Pedro Pascal and that interview

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Speaker 2: is on the cover of Play magazine in the West

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Speaker 2: Australia on Saturday this weekend. And so I went to

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Speaker 2: Sydney to interview Pedro Pascal and his cast mates from

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Speaker 2: the fantastic four First Steps movie and we hit it off.

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Speaker 2: We really got on very well. And at the end

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Speaker 2: he came across the room and shook my hand, took

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Speaker 2: my hand in both of his and held it, held

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Speaker 2: it a double hands and he held it tight as

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Speaker 2: he stared into my eyes and said, Ben, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. I really appreciated your questions today. Very insightful,

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Speaker 2: really lovely to meet you. And he probably talked to

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Speaker 2: me for another minute or so, just staring into my eyes.

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Speaker 2: It's I was hypnotized and the connections five stars, no, no,

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Speaker 2: not five Stars. So the Fantastic Four first steps comes along.

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Speaker 2: For the Marvel cinematic universe, it's in a kind of

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Speaker 2: a bit of an awkward phase at the moment. They've

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Speaker 2: had a couple of duds. They've had some off camera

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Speaker 2: issues and some and some of their main characters had

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Speaker 2: some scandals and had to get the boot. So they've

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Speaker 2: kind of sort of reimagined where the future of this

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Speaker 2: franchise is going, and the Fantastic Four itself is going

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Speaker 2: to be a key part of that future. It So

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Speaker 2: it's the first movie of the Marvel Phase six slate

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Speaker 2: of films, which finishes, I think in twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 2: with Avengers Doomsday. So they map all this stuff out.

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Speaker 2: Billions of dollars at stake if these films don't work out.

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Speaker 2: And the Fantastic Four, you might remember, was originally adapted

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Speaker 2: for the big screen back in the early two thousands

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Speaker 2: with Ian Griffin as Mister Fantastic, Jessica Alba as the

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Speaker 2: Invisible Woman, Chris Evans as the Human Torch. Those movies

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Speaker 2: weren't that great, did have Julian McMahon, the late Great

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Speaker 2: Julian as Victor von Duom and so those films. They

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Speaker 2: weren't that amazing. They made a bit of money at

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Speaker 2: the box office, and then in twenty fifteen they rebuilt

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Speaker 2: a franchise. Yeah, ok, four, But then in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: the Fantastic Four was the terrible. It was an absolute

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Speaker 2: stinker and it was a huge bomb at the box office,

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Speaker 2: even though it had a pretty good cast. Miles Teller

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Speaker 2: was mister Fantastic, Michael B. Jordan was the human Torch.

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Speaker 2: But it just was not good. So most of the

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Four movies honestly have been pretty average. This is

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Speaker 2: by far the best of all of them, and it

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Speaker 2: does so by really leans into the sixties aesthetic of

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Speaker 2: the original comic book, which was released in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 2: one by Jack Kirby and Stanley and So. But it's

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Speaker 2: not set on our version of Earth. So in the

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Speaker 2: Marvel world, as everybody knows, it's a multiverse, so there's

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Speaker 2: parallel universes. So this is a different version of Earth,

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Speaker 2: which means they don't have to really be that authentic.

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Speaker 2: It's sixties, but it's also futuristic, retro futuristic, and so

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Speaker 2: that's why they've got flying cars and and other kind

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Speaker 2: of quite advanced technology, but everyone's wearing you know, turtlenecks

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Speaker 2: and the brown leather jacket s. The vibe is cool.

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Speaker 2: I would say, for my money, this is the best

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Speaker 2: looking superhero movie that has ever been made, because beautiful

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Speaker 2: every frame. You could print it out and hang it

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Speaker 2: on your wall as a piece of art. It is

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Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful to look at. Director Max Shackman, who made

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Speaker 2: a visionary. It's stunning film to look at. And you're

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Speaker 2: Pedro Pascal, who is perfectly cast as mister fantastic. Most

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Speaker 2: of the time, he's not fantastic. He's mister anxious, which

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Speaker 2: is Pedro in real life has some anxiety issues. So

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Speaker 2: it's so believable when he's worried about his incoming baby

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Speaker 2: with with Vanessa Kirby, who plays the Invisible Woman, his wife.

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Speaker 2: So they're having this baby, they're not sure, can you

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Speaker 2: be sure? Yeah, that's visible princess. She actually gives birth

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Speaker 2: middle of I know, yeah, just to make it, just

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Speaker 2: to make it more interesting. It's also in space, in

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Speaker 2: zero gravity. It's a crazy sequence. You've also got Julia

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Speaker 2: the Silver Surfer. Ralph Inoson, who's a fantastic character actor,

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Speaker 2: is Galactus, who's the big bad guy who's coming to

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Speaker 2: destroy the Earth, and he Galactus does a deal basically,

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Speaker 2: I will spare the Earth on one condition, mister fantastic,

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Speaker 2: You've got to give me a baby.

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Speaker 1: That's a deal.

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Speaker 2: That's a deal that mister Fantastic doesn't want to do.

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Speaker 2: So then, of course, you know, the whole fate of

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Speaker 2: you have some great performances from Pedro Pascal and Vanessa Kirby.

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Speaker 2: In particular, you've got Evan Moss Backrack from The From

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Speaker 2: the Bear who plays that thing Backrack. He's an amazing actor,

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Speaker 2: he's the thing clobroom time. And you've got Joseph Quinn

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Speaker 2: who was Eddie Munson in Stranger Things, who's amazing English actor.

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Speaker 2: He plays the human torch Johnny Storm. He's fantastic as well.

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Speaker 2: So the cast is really good. You could make the

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Speaker 2: case that maybe the pacing is a little bit slow,

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Speaker 2: and they really put the emphasis on the family dynamic

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Speaker 2: of the Fantastic Four at the expense of other aspects

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Speaker 2: of the film, which I think is very interesting and

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, good on them for doing that.

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's not very often where a superhero movie

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Speaker 2: characters sitting on the toilet, but that's Vanessa Kirby doing

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Speaker 2: the pregnancy test, but she's invisible. Yeah, So they just

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Speaker 2: little bit left of center for a superhero blockbuster. Some

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Speaker 2: but you've got to stick with it, and I think

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Speaker 2: it really bodes well for the future of the Marvel

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Speaker 2: Cinematic universe if you've got these characters as a part

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Speaker 2: of it. At times, it's a little bit like The

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Speaker 2: Incredibles because you've got a baby in there. But then

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Speaker 2: you know, The Incredibles is really inspired by the Fantastic

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Speaker 2: Four originally, So it all goes around and comes around

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Speaker 2: and it looks good and it looks very wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Well, how many calling Pedro Pascal mister Fantastic is basically

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Speaker 1: a cameos.

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Speaker 2: Are you basically being itself?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give it three and a half, so

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Speaker 2: this and Superman. Recently, we've had two good superhero movies

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Speaker 2: in a row, which is very unusual. The genre has

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Speaker 2: been in a bit of a low kind of times.

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Speaker 2: Very promising,