1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: The territory was heartbroken when we learned of the deaths 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: of bottle shop worker decland Lavity. Then last week that 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: grief struck the community once again when Bangladeshi student See 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Fat's life was lost in another act of senseless violence. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now is Declan Lavity's mum, 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Samara Lavity. Good morning, Samara, good morning. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me on the show. Samara, 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: how are you and your family going at the moment, 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: up and down? 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: We're having good days, we're having bad days, and even 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: on the good days, we're having bad moments. There's just 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: so many things that reminds me of him, And yeah, 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: there's just so many memories that both my daughter and 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: I are trying to process and get through each day, 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: one step at a time. 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Samaraw I can't imagine what it's been like for you 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: since losing Declan. I've got a I've got a son 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: and a daughter as well, much younger than your two 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: and I I actually just can't even comprehend the heartbreak 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: that you must be living. 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: It's awful. It's a pain that I would not wish 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: on anyone else ever. It feels like half of my 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: heart has gone. 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: Samara. Last week we learned of another tragic loss of 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: life with international students, se Fat killed inside a home 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: in which he was staying here in Darwin. What was 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: it like for you when you found out about that 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: situation unfolding. 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: I was shocked. Deathlin's death is tragic and horrific, but 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: for this one will have happened in the way it 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: happened that it was just unbelievable, and both my daughter 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: and I sat there and we tried, because now another 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: family knows what it's like to have to go through this. 35 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: And the one thing I wanted and still want to 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: come out of Declin's death is that no other parent 37 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: has to deal with getting that phone call and being 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: told that their child is dead or is dying as 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: a result of somebody else's actions. 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: No parents should have to go through what you've gone through. 41 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: No parents should have to go through what sea Fat's 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: family going through right now. I understand that you reached 43 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: out to his family. Sorry, pattern did you reach out 44 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: to sea Fat's family? 45 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: I haven't. I have spoken to a few people who 46 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: were going to pass messages for me. 47 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: Though, like I said, I you know, so it is 48 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: just a situation where I can't fathom how you and 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: your daughter are going at this point in time. And Samara, 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: the thing that really struck me after the loss of 51 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Declam was the absolute outpouring of love from the Darwin community. 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: People are really obviously incredibly upset by what's going on, 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: but they really wanted you and your family to know 54 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: that they care about you and that they do not 55 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: want Declan's death to be in vain. 56 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: I have received literally hundreds of messages from people Indo 57 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: and the support and the love and the cave that 58 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: we've been show and has just been phenomenal, amazing and 59 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: absolutely overwhelming. But my boy, my kid has impacted so 60 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: many thousands of people. 61 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: He truly has. Honestly, I think that it's been a 62 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: real turning point for the Northern Territory where we all 63 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: knew that we were suffering from really serious issues with crime, 64 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: but what happened with Declan it broke everybody, and no 65 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: one more so than you and your family, But it 66 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: really made the community sort of sit up and go, 67 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: this is enough. This should not have happened. This young 68 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: man should not have lost his life. 69 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: No, I absolutely agree, and it's had to take Declan's 70 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: passing to be the catalyst for change that it shouldn't 71 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: have to take someone dying for people to notice that 72 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: things are not right. 73 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: You spot on, Samara, are you in Darwin today for 74 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: the crime rally? 75 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: I am. I will be speaking at the rally today and. 76 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: What is your message for the Northern Territory government. Why 77 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: have you decided that you do want to stand up 78 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: and speak at that rally? 79 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: Because no other family should ever get that phone call 80 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: to hear the words that Declan has died. Broke something 81 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: fundamental in me and no other parents should ever have 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: to have that feeling. My daughter and her half sister 83 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: have lost their brother, the one that was going to 84 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: walk them down the aisle. Declon's half sister has a 85 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: one year old and is pregnant with another child. They're 86 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: never going to meet that uncle. There's just been so 87 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: much that has been absolutely stripped away from us and 88 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: our family and the person that Declin was becoming. I'm 89 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: so by things need to change. 90 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so sorry for the loss that you and 91 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: and your family are suffering and the ongoing, you know, 92 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: the ongoing grief that you are all feeling. Samara, what 93 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: is your message to the government today. Do you feel 94 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: as though they have done enough following on from what's happened. 95 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't know very much at all about the political 96 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: side of Northern Territory politics. I've had a very very 97 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: quick lesson in how things have been perceived by different 98 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: factions of government, and my personal opinion is that there 99 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: just doesn't seem to have been enough acknowledgment towards the 100 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: crime levels. Because it's not just my son's death, it's 101 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: not Seafat death, it's not that poor lady who was 102 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: killed in the DV incident and the one that happens 103 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: the week before Declin died. That just doesn't seem to 104 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: have been any real, out there acknowledgments other than a 105 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: very basic This has happened, and it's tragic. But what's 106 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: happening on the ground to stop this? It's not an 107 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: easy answer, I get that, but something's got to start somewhere, 108 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: and as far as I can see, there hasn't been 109 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: a lot of notice put towards how the people in 110 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: the town feel. I kept coming into dawn yesterday. It's 111 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: a palpable feeling of apprehension wherever I went, and that 112 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: was sad and concerning because people are scared and something 113 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: needs to be done about that. But yeah, I haven't 114 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: seen anything about how they are really going to addresser 115 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: and how people's concerns are being taken into account. 116 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Your spot on and look, I think it's really I've 117 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: been you know, I really respect the way that you've 118 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: conducted yourself and the way that you've stood up and 119 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: how and the strengths that you have shown over the 120 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: recent weeks in what is an unbelievable and undescribable situation. 121 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 1: And then to stand up today, obviously and speak what's 122 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, what is the main thing that you really 123 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: want the community and our decision makers in the territory 124 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: to know when you do stand up and speak today. 125 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: Today is seven weeks and four days since I lost 126 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: my son. No other parent needs to be counting those days. 127 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: No other parents should be putting their child carest at 128 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: the age of twenty or twenty three. And see if 129 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: that's case, it's it just should not be happening. And 130 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: please listen to what the people are saying. Everyone's angry, 131 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: everyone's hurt, everyone's set up. That anger is going to 132 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: have to go somewhere, and someone needs to the lobject 133 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: before it became hits boiling points and vigilante actions happen, 134 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: or revenge of hat like fighting fire with fire is 135 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: not going to work. People can't be out just doing 136 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: their own thing, and so that's to happen. Someone in 137 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: government needs to step forward and say this is not 138 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: going to happen. This is how we're going to address it. 139 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: The multifaceted, multi factorial issue. But someone's got to start 140 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: the process somewhere. 141 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: Samara, there is no doubt that your boys had a 142 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: profound impact on Darwin. How do you want Deckland to 143 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: be remembered? 144 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: Funny? He was a funny, funny kid. He absolutely loved 145 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: his AFL beyond words to describe. He was very very 146 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: much a Richmond Tigers fan. But he's not just that 147 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: kid who has been killed at work in and is 148 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: now with the catalyst change. He was a person. He 149 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: was a brother, he was my baby boy, he lived 150 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: with his dad. He is a person, person, family, and 151 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: I think that's what people can relate to, is that 152 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: it could have been anyone's anyone's child, just at work 153 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: doing their job, and then this has happened. And it's 154 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: his story is relatable. 155 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Samara, thank you so much for speaking to me this morning, 156 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: and for speaking to the whole of the Northern Territory 157 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: and you know, sharing sharing that further sort of memory 158 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: of your son and the beautiful, beautiful kid that he was, 159 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: and for also speaking up for territorians, because I don't 160 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: think that anybody, aside from yourself and the families that 161 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: have lost loved ones through this really senseless violence. While 162 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: we've all felt really upset about what's going on in 163 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: the territory, no one can stand the loss that you 164 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: are going through and the way that it's impacted your family. 165 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: So I'm so grateful for you to open up and 166 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: have a talk to us this morning. 167 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. We look forward to seeing 168 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: as many people as we can at the rally to 169 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: try and try and create some form of change. 170 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: Samara, thank you. I really appreciate your time and all 171 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: the best while you're in Darwin. 172 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: Great Thank you, Thank you for having me