1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:17,909 Speaker 1: live on the Free I had but right now, I 3 00:00:17,948 --> 00:00:20,388 Speaker 1: when I talk about Turkey, a place that is famous 4 00:00:20,429 --> 00:00:26,229 Speaker 1: for hair transplants and plastic surgery, and some progressive thoughts 5 00:00:26,229 --> 00:00:29,909 Speaker 1: on divorce, Wilbur, So this is pretty wild. 6 00:00:30,069 --> 00:00:33,109 Speaker 2: So if they're progressive, well, I've. 7 00:00:32,909 --> 00:00:34,909 Speaker 1: Got progressive thoughts on divorce, that's all I said. And 8 00:00:34,949 --> 00:00:37,668 Speaker 1: say they are progressive, I said progressive thoughts on divorce. 9 00:00:37,748 --> 00:00:41,229 Speaker 3: Don't go you mix up my act. They're quite backward 10 00:00:41,269 --> 00:00:43,509 Speaker 3: in that front. But yeah, that's just my opinion obviously. 11 00:00:43,549 --> 00:00:45,669 Speaker 1: Sure, well, I actually don't know what these dances at 12 00:00:45,668 --> 00:00:48,869 Speaker 1: all on divorce, but it's interesting to see in their 13 00:00:48,949 --> 00:00:51,909 Speaker 1: highest court Wilbur, they are saying that there are new 14 00:00:51,989 --> 00:00:55,148 Speaker 1: grounds of divorce, which is liking first traps. 15 00:00:55,949 --> 00:00:57,709 Speaker 2: I don't think that's progressive, fair enough. 16 00:00:58,109 --> 00:01:00,749 Speaker 1: It's definitely moving forward with the times, like adding technology 17 00:01:00,749 --> 00:01:03,429 Speaker 1: into divorce. So if you if you're trying to divorce someone, 18 00:01:03,429 --> 00:01:05,749 Speaker 1: you wanting to divorce someone, yeah, you can bring up 19 00:01:05,789 --> 00:01:08,949 Speaker 1: evidence there which is like these are the photos that 20 00:01:08,949 --> 00:01:13,229 Speaker 1: they've liked obviously of other people, and then the judge 21 00:01:13,269 --> 00:01:14,269 Speaker 1: will go, yeah. 22 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:16,509 Speaker 3: Look, I don't know for sure, but I would say 23 00:01:16,509 --> 00:01:17,989 Speaker 3: it's it's largely a way for. 24 00:01:17,989 --> 00:01:19,509 Speaker 2: Men to be able to get rid of their wives 25 00:01:19,509 --> 00:01:20,069 Speaker 2: more easily. 26 00:01:21,229 --> 00:01:24,149 Speaker 1: This is women going for men. This story that I'm 27 00:01:24,189 --> 00:01:27,989 Speaker 1: holding this, Yeah, this is guys. So, guys, So a 28 00:01:28,069 --> 00:01:31,749 Speaker 1: woman tried to divorce her husband. She brought evidence which 29 00:01:31,909 --> 00:01:34,669 Speaker 1: was literally the first trap photos of women. 30 00:01:35,509 --> 00:01:38,029 Speaker 4: He was likeing, wow, and he was gone, and then 31 00:01:38,069 --> 00:01:41,589 Speaker 4: the highest court was like, do you know what bloody 32 00:01:41,629 --> 00:01:43,509 Speaker 4: eight is? That is grounds for divorce? 33 00:01:43,589 --> 00:01:46,549 Speaker 1: I mean he must have liked a lot of first 34 00:01:46,549 --> 00:01:49,149 Speaker 1: traps one imagine it was just like exuper a. And 35 00:01:49,149 --> 00:01:52,389 Speaker 1: then did they refer to them as first traps? I 36 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:56,909 Speaker 1: think this this media publication has probably taken it poet, 37 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:59,909 Speaker 1: but they were using provocative photos of other women. 38 00:02:00,109 --> 00:02:01,949 Speaker 2: Effectively, do they have them up in the court. That's 39 00:02:01,949 --> 00:02:02,549 Speaker 2: pretty funny? 40 00:02:02,589 --> 00:02:06,149 Speaker 1: Well I imagine, well absolutely, flick through through and you 41 00:02:06,309 --> 00:02:11,228 Speaker 1: like this one and you're like, look anyway, got me thinking, yeah. Effectively, 42 00:02:11,269 --> 00:02:12,989 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's saying that he finds other 43 00:02:13,029 --> 00:02:16,269 Speaker 1: people attractive. You've said to me before that you believe 44 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:19,069 Speaker 1: it is healthy to tell your current partner if you 45 00:02:19,149 --> 00:02:20,788 Speaker 1: find someone else attractive. 46 00:02:20,389 --> 00:02:21,909 Speaker 3: What are they You need to pepper them with it, 47 00:02:22,069 --> 00:02:23,629 Speaker 3: like you don't want to walk down the street and 48 00:02:23,989 --> 00:02:28,189 Speaker 3: like twelve o'clock, twelve o'clock. No, I don't think so, 49 00:02:28,429 --> 00:02:30,109 Speaker 3: But like I think it's nice to have the open 50 00:02:30,149 --> 00:02:32,749 Speaker 3: conversation about how you feel. Like, you know, if you 51 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:34,989 Speaker 3: if you find something like why shouldn't you be able 52 00:02:35,029 --> 00:02:36,749 Speaker 3: to talk about it? Who's attractive and not attractive? 53 00:02:36,789 --> 00:02:37,309 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 54 00:02:37,949 --> 00:02:40,149 Speaker 3: Obviously if it's a bit close to home, you know, 55 00:02:40,189 --> 00:02:42,069 Speaker 3: if it's you, if it's in your friendship group or 56 00:02:42,109 --> 00:02:42,909 Speaker 3: you you know what I mean? 57 00:02:42,949 --> 00:02:45,549 Speaker 1: Like that, probably I felt like I was falling into 58 00:02:45,549 --> 00:02:47,109 Speaker 1: a bear trap before. When you know, when you're watching 59 00:02:47,109 --> 00:02:50,149 Speaker 1: a movie and your partner goes, do you find her attractive? Yeah, 60 00:02:50,189 --> 00:02:52,189 Speaker 1: it's like time stops for me in that moment where 61 00:02:52,189 --> 00:02:54,508 Speaker 1: I'm just like it just feels like this is a 62 00:02:54,549 --> 00:02:56,869 Speaker 1: trapped woman to fall into. The Other one is when 63 00:02:56,909 --> 00:02:58,629 Speaker 1: they go like, of all my friends, who do you 64 00:02:58,669 --> 00:02:59,549 Speaker 1: find most attractive? 65 00:02:59,589 --> 00:03:00,709 Speaker 4: Have you been thrown that one? 66 00:03:00,749 --> 00:03:00,869 Speaker 2: Ye? 67 00:03:01,109 --> 00:03:04,069 Speaker 4: That should be a banned question. It shouldn't be allowed. 68 00:03:04,589 --> 00:03:06,069 Speaker 3: Well, as I've said to you before, is the difference 69 00:03:06,109 --> 00:03:08,309 Speaker 3: between what you think and what you feel and what 70 00:03:08,349 --> 00:03:09,829 Speaker 3: you do. 71 00:03:09,829 --> 00:03:11,829 Speaker 2: You know, we're all human. 72 00:03:11,949 --> 00:03:15,629 Speaker 3: It's very easy to see someone who's attractive without having 73 00:03:15,669 --> 00:03:16,629 Speaker 3: to do something about it. 74 00:03:16,709 --> 00:03:18,429 Speaker 2: You know, that's completely within your control. 75 00:03:18,469 --> 00:03:20,309 Speaker 3: I think it's different when you go, oh, yeah, I 76 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:22,589 Speaker 3: find them attractive and would you mind if I you 77 00:03:22,669 --> 00:03:23,109 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 78 00:03:23,509 --> 00:03:24,669 Speaker 2: That's a different kettle. 79 00:03:24,749 --> 00:03:24,829 Speaker 3: Now. 80 00:03:25,069 --> 00:03:27,789 Speaker 4: Absolutely, let's go to Julie here on thirteen one six. 81 00:03:28,069 --> 00:03:29,309 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you are You're just 82 00:03:29,349 --> 00:03:32,069 Speaker 2: a person like you. Of course you get attracted to people. 83 00:03:32,629 --> 00:03:35,989 Speaker 1: And I guess in a way you're lying if you 84 00:03:36,069 --> 00:03:37,949 Speaker 1: say you don't exactly find them attracted? 85 00:03:38,629 --> 00:03:38,989 Speaker 4: About it? 86 00:03:39,029 --> 00:03:40,709 Speaker 3: So would you rather know? Would you rather not know? 87 00:03:40,709 --> 00:03:43,149 Speaker 3: I suppose that's a discussion for every relationship. Julie, what 88 00:03:43,189 --> 00:03:43,629 Speaker 3: do you reckon? 89 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:46,869 Speaker 5: Hi? God, how are you. 90 00:03:46,389 --> 00:03:46,989 Speaker 2: Think, Julie? 91 00:03:46,989 --> 00:03:47,629 Speaker 4: What do you reckon? 92 00:03:48,549 --> 00:03:51,749 Speaker 5: I think absolutely your partner or husband and wife whatever 93 00:03:51,789 --> 00:03:54,309 Speaker 5: shep and your best friend and you should have one 94 00:03:54,349 --> 00:03:58,109 Speaker 5: hundred transparency. And we're any humans. So it doesn't mean 95 00:03:58,149 --> 00:04:00,349 Speaker 5: just to build your marriage, can't God gave besides to 96 00:04:00,429 --> 00:04:06,229 Speaker 5: law has actually finding another person attractive. It doesn't mean 97 00:04:06,229 --> 00:04:07,229 Speaker 5: you're going to act on that. 98 00:04:07,389 --> 00:04:11,469 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, How would you feel like, Julie if you did? 99 00:04:11,469 --> 00:04:14,989 Speaker 1: You have wife or husband you've got a husband, So 100 00:04:15,229 --> 00:04:16,789 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring up that question again which my 101 00:04:16,829 --> 00:04:18,549 Speaker 1: wife has asked me before, which is like, which of 102 00:04:18,549 --> 00:04:20,949 Speaker 1: my friends do you find most attractive? The hard bit 103 00:04:21,069 --> 00:04:23,709 Speaker 1: is the next time you're at cocktails and cannapse and 104 00:04:23,748 --> 00:04:26,109 Speaker 1: then you're having a conversation with that friend who you 105 00:04:26,189 --> 00:04:30,149 Speaker 1: have previously said is the most attractive person in my 106 00:04:30,189 --> 00:04:31,029 Speaker 1: wife's friendship group. 107 00:04:31,069 --> 00:04:32,269 Speaker 4: Is that a bit of a sticky situation? 108 00:04:33,589 --> 00:04:37,549 Speaker 5: Well not really. If I feel with someone wheels uncomfortable, 109 00:04:37,589 --> 00:04:42,308 Speaker 5: then they've got their own insecurities and openly talk about it. 110 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:45,069 Speaker 5: Everyone's going to be expected to someone else. 111 00:04:44,988 --> 00:04:45,469 Speaker 2: Right, So. 112 00:04:48,109 --> 00:04:50,429 Speaker 3: In fact, I would say it's more stable within the 113 00:04:50,509 --> 00:04:53,109 Speaker 3: monogamous relationship that you're able to do that sort of 114 00:04:53,109 --> 00:04:55,949 Speaker 3: thing is either try trying to each other and if 115 00:04:55,988 --> 00:04:58,509 Speaker 3: you're like if there's a person you're most attracted to 116 00:04:58,589 --> 00:05:01,549 Speaker 3: in their friendship group, like gun to their head for 117 00:05:01,669 --> 00:05:04,029 Speaker 3: sake of the expression there's going to be someone in 118 00:05:04,029 --> 00:05:05,029 Speaker 3: your friendship group. 119 00:05:04,829 --> 00:05:05,869 Speaker 2: Who they are most attracted to. 120 00:05:05,869 --> 00:05:07,069 Speaker 4: I wouldn't ask the question. 121 00:05:08,949 --> 00:05:11,149 Speaker 3: If you're at that cocktail party if they've both got 122 00:05:11,149 --> 00:05:12,789 Speaker 3: someone that you're most attracted, of course. 123 00:05:12,549 --> 00:05:15,589 Speaker 1: You exactly, we're human, You're going to do anything about it, 124 00:05:15,949 --> 00:05:17,229 Speaker 1: but I find them very attractive. 125 00:05:17,309 --> 00:05:20,789 Speaker 4: Let's go to Fiona here. I'm probably in your tone 126 00:05:20,829 --> 00:05:23,709 Speaker 4: as well as Fianna. 127 00:05:23,829 --> 00:05:25,829 Speaker 1: Isn't healthy to tell your partner that you find someone 128 00:05:25,829 --> 00:05:27,069 Speaker 1: else attractive. 129 00:05:27,988 --> 00:05:31,068 Speaker 5: If it's in your friend group. Absolutely not. 130 00:05:31,789 --> 00:05:33,629 Speaker 1: You do not open that can of worms. 131 00:05:33,629 --> 00:05:36,029 Speaker 5: You go, which one of my like you were saying 132 00:05:36,069 --> 00:05:37,628 Speaker 5: about your wife, Which one of my friends do you 133 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:40,589 Speaker 5: find attractive? None of them? You go? 134 00:05:40,789 --> 00:05:41,068 Speaker 1: None? 135 00:05:41,269 --> 00:05:43,749 Speaker 4: But what if that's a lie? 136 00:05:44,029 --> 00:05:44,829 Speaker 2: You got a line? 137 00:05:45,069 --> 00:05:46,469 Speaker 4: You know you're going to have to find one of 138 00:05:46,469 --> 00:05:49,669 Speaker 4: their friends quite attractive. What's that about, lie? 139 00:05:49,869 --> 00:05:52,629 Speaker 3: Lie? Light of the hills, Light of the hills, A 140 00:05:52,669 --> 00:05:55,669 Speaker 3: lot of the hills fire you in a relationship, Fiona. 141 00:05:56,389 --> 00:05:58,829 Speaker 2: No, well, there you go.