WEBVTT - The Sit-Down with Francesca Schiavone

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to the Sitdown. I'm Viv Christie from

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Tennis magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Matrolote from oz open dot Com and Viv.

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<v Speaker 2>This week we're bringing you a chat from Italy with

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<v Speaker 2>the great Francesca Ski of only Grand Slam Singles champion

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<v Speaker 2>when she won twenty ten Roland Garross over Australian Sam Stoza. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as Australia people that work in Australian tennis, Viv, we

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<v Speaker 2>obviously were captivated by this match in Sam making the final.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you remember about that match and what eventually

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<v Speaker 2>unfolded in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a very exciting time for Australian tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam of course had beaten Justine Hennan on her way

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<v Speaker 1>to the final and I remember watching that with many

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends, my tennis friends on a Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>at a pub in Richmond, and we were all super excited.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the end it was an incredible performance and

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<v Speaker 1>milestone from Francesca.

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<v Speaker 2>It was For anyone that's listening to this podcast it's

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<v Speaker 2>not from Australia, they might not know just how big

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<v Speaker 2>a deal this was to an Australian in the French

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<v Speaker 2>Open Singles Final. I think that was the first time

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<v Speaker 2>that had happened since the nineteen seventies, and so naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the match got brought onto Free Too

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<v Speaker 2>Wear TV when it was when Roland Garross was normally

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<v Speaker 2>on cable TV, and it was all over the front

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<v Speaker 2>page of the newspaper. And Sam had gone on to

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<v Speaker 2>beat Serena as well, So yeah, kind of the signs

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<v Speaker 2>were there that, you know, we were all behind Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just remember thinking, even though the Australian in

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<v Speaker 2>me was supporting Sam, I was so impressed with Francesca

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<v Speaker 2>Skivoni's approach to the match, how tactically well she played,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when it got to that tiebreak, she just

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<v Speaker 2>went for it and just played like the dream tiebreak

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<v Speaker 2>and just looked destined to win, like she arrived at

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<v Speaker 2>her moment. It was her dream. It was incredible to

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<v Speaker 2>see and I think she goes into a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of detail about those exact moments and her memories, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all these years later, I mean she talks about

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<v Speaker 1>the passion and the focus that it took. She'd always

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<v Speaker 1>had that goal to win Roland Gaross and and she did,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's wonderful also to hear about the respect

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<v Speaker 1>that she has for Sam and how warmly she speaks

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<v Speaker 1>about her.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir Francesca caught up with our colleague Shannon Davis in

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<v Speaker 2>Milan and begun the interview by recalling her win over

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<v Speaker 2>Serena Williams way back in Rome in two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about that moment and how amazing it was

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<v Speaker 3>in your home country, you taking on and beating in

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<v Speaker 3>the second round.

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<v Speaker 4>Serena was been fantastic. Of course, pasted already twenty more years,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's a long long time ago. But I remember

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<v Speaker 4>that there was blonde. I was very on fight this

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<v Speaker 4>mother who could be in front of me. My goal

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<v Speaker 4>was to beat her. I was shaking. I remember well

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<v Speaker 4>I play against Serena. I was very respectful for my opponent. Always.

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<v Speaker 4>I was being like this because my parents teach me

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<v Speaker 4>how much is important to be respectful to yourself, to

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<v Speaker 4>the opponent. But to play against Serena was something special.

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<v Speaker 4>And I say, if I want to catch her and

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<v Speaker 4>bit her, I have to bring her in a long rally.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to bring where. I have to bring her

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<v Speaker 4>where she doesn't like so and is my space? My

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<v Speaker 4>space was to run My word was to suffer and

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<v Speaker 4>to bring my opponent to to go over the limits.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did that. I remember that was a great

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<v Speaker 4>match for me. First set was seven six for me,

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<v Speaker 4>was very tough, tight every point. She was surfing very good,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, twenty kilos of difference between a body

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<v Speaker 4>to another body was I was feeling dead, but I

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<v Speaker 4>was very determinate. That one is my home. I say,

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<v Speaker 4>this is my surface is Roma and Clay. So I

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<v Speaker 4>put everything together. I play with the courage. She mistakes

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<v Speaker 4>some balls important and when she missed something, I say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's time for me to catch the merchant, try to win.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>So tell me about you and Clay have a special affinity.

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<v Speaker 4>At the age of seventeen, between seventeen and eighteen, I

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<v Speaker 4>went to my mental coach that then Giovanni, I keep

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<v Speaker 4>it for the rest of my career. And I ask

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<v Speaker 4>him no. He asked me, what do you want to

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<v Speaker 4>do in your life? What's your goal? What do you

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<v Speaker 4>have in your heart? And they say, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>win Rolangeros and I want to become top ten in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. That was the key for me to work

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<v Speaker 4>and to reach the goal that I dreamed, and after

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<v Speaker 4>several times that I played Rolande Ross, I arrived in

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<v Speaker 4>a moment two thousand and seven, eight and nine. I

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<v Speaker 4>was close, not by results, but I felt that that

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<v Speaker 4>one was my tournament. In two thousand and nine, I

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<v Speaker 4>played good, but I was something was missing. Then happened

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<v Speaker 4>that I prefer very well the season. I find a

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<v Speaker 4>good balance. Sometimes maybe someone say, okay, you have thirty

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<v Speaker 4>years old, you had twenty nine, so why did you

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<v Speaker 4>wait so long? But I was like this. I always

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<v Speaker 4>took my time. I always did my I grow was

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit slower than others or now that everybody

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<v Speaker 4>give you the solution and the input before was a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit slower. So when I arrived in twenty ten

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<v Speaker 4>in Rolandaros and I won the first round, six four

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<v Speaker 4>in the third, I said, oh my god, I think

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<v Speaker 4>something is happening to me. Because I played very bad

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<v Speaker 4>and I could win. That's very good step for a champion.

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<v Speaker 4>Then second round I played amazing, so something was changing. Physically,

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<v Speaker 4>I felt very good. My team was in good balance.

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<v Speaker 4>Many things together were attached, and I run the third round.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember against Lena. That match did the click to

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<v Speaker 4>me more because we played. Both of us played very well.

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<v Speaker 4>We fight and at the end I won so more confidence,

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<v Speaker 4>more actitude. I felt that I could do it, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's very important for an ATHLETs. Then, step by step

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<v Speaker 4>to the final, I didn't play good and I could win. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>semi final very good, respectable, and the final change a

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<v Speaker 4>lot because before the final, I felt very scared. I

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<v Speaker 4>was very scared. I cried. I think from eight in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning until noon. I couldn't stop this scared. When

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<v Speaker 4>someone now is coming to me and say I'm scared

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<v Speaker 4>of this match, I can understand what's happened inside the body,

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<v Speaker 4>inside the heart. I couldn't find the courage to go

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<v Speaker 4>to play the final, so I see. I spoke with

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<v Speaker 4>my mental trainer and he said to me very clear,

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<v Speaker 4>don't do it. If you don't feel good, why do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Tennis is a game. Game is mean to love, to

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<v Speaker 4>go over the limits, to be strong, but also to enjoy,

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<v Speaker 4>to feel, to feel that you are there in the

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<v Speaker 4>right moment, in the right condition. So don't worry, don't play.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, well, how can I don't play? And he

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<v Speaker 4>left and she said, stay alone, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's the time to cancel. We cancer good after

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<v Speaker 4>I think some hours like this, I think I took

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<v Speaker 4>off everything from my body because I was crying and

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<v Speaker 4>no phone, no mobile phone, no contact with other people,

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<v Speaker 4>just me. I analyzed this moment and I put all

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<v Speaker 4>my past together with my present and the dream that

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<v Speaker 4>I had, this dream, It depends. You can see the

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<v Speaker 4>dream amazing, fantastic, that we are close to reach. You

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<v Speaker 4>can see that it's heavy. This depends how you see this,

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<v Speaker 4>how you feel it. And then in a moment, I say,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm leaving this one that is heavy. What doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>if I leave this part? What doesn't mean it takes

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<v Speaker 4>hours to take this one and threw away and to

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<v Speaker 4>leave this moment like a present, like wow, thanks God

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<v Speaker 4>that you give me this opportunity. And I arrived there

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<v Speaker 4>with my potential, with my power. So if I arrived there,

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<v Speaker 4>why not to go to to play and win? So

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<v Speaker 4>I give to myself the chance to do it. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was lucky. I was good. I don't know what happened,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want Roland Ross. How is that? Lucky and good?

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<v Speaker 3>Because your protagonist did not match Sam Stouzer, she was

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<v Speaker 3>often crippled with nerves too, like very constricted.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam was a fantastic add I love some like person

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<v Speaker 4>like Atherlettes, very big example for everybody of us and

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<v Speaker 4>for I think for Australia and all the world. But

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<v Speaker 4>I felt that she was very tight. When I was

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<v Speaker 4>playing in the correct spot, she couldn't she couldn't defense

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<v Speaker 4>very good. And when I was missing and she had

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity, she was not coming against me very strong

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<v Speaker 4>like usually she was doing, and they say something is happening.

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading very well the emotion and the tactic

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<v Speaker 4>how to manage this, to find a way to attack

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<v Speaker 4>her in the moment that she couldn't understand. So it

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<v Speaker 4>was like the cut and the mouse, a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>like this. When time to go, and because she was

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<v Speaker 4>times speaker than mean and stronger and everybody was waiting

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<v Speaker 4>her win, I found a way, like I said before,

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<v Speaker 4>dreaming that moment, I was totally into the match. There

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<v Speaker 4>was nobody around. I remember that. I remember exactly that

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<v Speaker 4>when I was six ' four for me and four

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<v Speaker 4>three that I did the break. You know, I want herself.

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<v Speaker 4>In that moment, I turned to my team, I look

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<v Speaker 4>everybody that was there, like one hundred people, and I

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<v Speaker 4>felt and I saw them for the first time. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw the stadium for the first time six four four three.

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<v Speaker 4>In that moment, I understand many things that I was there,

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<v Speaker 4>that was a right place. That was my moment. It

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter when or lose. You have to give everything

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<v Speaker 4>that you have. And I was playing always better and

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<v Speaker 4>better and better. So the pressure was not was there

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<v Speaker 4>but was not so much important then the game. So

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<v Speaker 4>the game was important in the same way then the

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<v Speaker 4>pressure and then the life. In that moment, I mixed

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<v Speaker 4>up everything. I didn't split so much was aspatch. Everything

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<v Speaker 4>was pressure. The crowd that was with me, crowd against

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<v Speaker 4>me was match point. How did you feel in Russia

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<v Speaker 4>or ancient Yeah, there was anxiety, there was enjoying that

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<v Speaker 4>if I do this point, I can win. Everything was together.

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<v Speaker 4>I was fluid. When you give opportunity to yourself, you

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<v Speaker 4>already win something, and that's very important. And in that

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<v Speaker 4>moment I learned these things and I could win.

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<v Speaker 3>Your fighting spirit was always something that was always on display.

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<v Speaker 3>Come to the Australia and Open in twenty eleven and

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<v Speaker 3>you play the longest and Slam match in history against

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<v Speaker 3>because Netsava, Yeah, tell me about that. That was insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixteen fourteen. In that third set, see.

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<v Speaker 4>What the hell that match was was long? We couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>I spoke with her and then some days after because

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<v Speaker 4>she was literally beast but it's okay, And they say,

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<v Speaker 4>how did you manage after the match? What did you do?

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<v Speaker 4>And she said I was there and I say me too.

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<v Speaker 4>I was off finish for our forty four minutes. I

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<v Speaker 4>become four in the world. Incredible. Everything with the four

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<v Speaker 4>was a fantastic match because she expressed everything and I

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<v Speaker 4>did the same in a different way until a moment

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<v Speaker 4>that I could catch two three times more than net

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<v Speaker 4>or two or three pass passing shot more. The level

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<v Speaker 4>was very equal. We finished like if I can say that,

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<v Speaker 4>like Roger and Rafa when when they will finished six

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<v Speaker 4>floor In the fifth set was emotions? Was tennis? Was

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<v Speaker 4>respect because I respect a lot like a lot was

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<v Speaker 4>a game? Was fight over the limits, both of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the day after I couldn't work. I went to

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<v Speaker 4>the bicycle. I did two minutes and something and I say,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't go anywhere. I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't go with the with the legs, and my

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<v Speaker 4>fizier say, don't worry. We stopped. We could sleep again

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<v Speaker 4>and eat again and do your things so long the

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<v Speaker 4>match for women's are a lot and we could enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>that match that will be historical.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you have the mental forever going forward of being

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<v Speaker 3>the first Italian woman to win a Grand Slam title.

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<v Speaker 3>You now have the newest member of the Grand Slam club,

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<v Speaker 3>a young Italian who's flying at the moment, who shows

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<v Speaker 3>some fight. He came back from two sets down in

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<v Speaker 3>that match. Tell me what do you make of his progress?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, first of all, he's a fantastic person because to

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<v Speaker 4>be a champion, you can't be just an addlet. You

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<v Speaker 4>have to understand what's happened to you, to work on

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<v Speaker 4>yourself to your limit, to listen to the people that

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<v Speaker 4>you have around, to understand that the game, and to

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<v Speaker 4>understand what is outside like business. And I think he

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<v Speaker 4>is very smart on this because he's ordered. There is

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<v Speaker 4>an order of what he does. So when he's in

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<v Speaker 4>the court, he want to improve every day, very verchiso

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<v Speaker 4>in English, very multipuntilioso, you can translate. And this characteristic

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<v Speaker 4>of work hard over the minutes, fight, improve every shots,

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<v Speaker 4>single shots, so small things can make of him a

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<v Speaker 4>very good addlets. Then he is smart. He can find

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<v Speaker 4>the way, the solution with his game. He was ready

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<v Speaker 4>two years ago, three years ago, not because he was

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<v Speaker 4>not completely conscient of his body and where he could go.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he's conscient, and every single moment he leaves consciently

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<v Speaker 4>that he can do something or not. It's like a

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<v Speaker 4>way that he decided what to do. And that's great

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<v Speaker 4>because the champion does this. So when he was sid

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<v Speaker 4>to set to zero down from Medvedev, they change, He

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<v Speaker 4>changed and with the team they change. One thing's very important.

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<v Speaker 4>He couldn't find a way to attack, to use his rhythm,

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<v Speaker 4>so he went back a little bit. That is a

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<v Speaker 4>big step for him. Then to attack the other one.

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<v Speaker 4>This change that looks very simple but it's not could

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<v Speaker 4>give him the opportunity to produce what he has, like

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<v Speaker 4>a power to go into, to go to. And he

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<v Speaker 4>worked very well. He listened, They found together a solution

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<v Speaker 4>and he could do it. Fantastic is a chapeau. Then

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<v Speaker 4>the other one went a little bit down and jan

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<v Speaker 4>Nick went up. Fantastic. I saw the match and they

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<v Speaker 4>said this this boy, because he's a boy, he's a man,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's a boy, can win much more slam for

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<v Speaker 4>this reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I said, predict for me his year in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Numrouna der Mondo number one in the world and some

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<v Speaker 4>slams more and I hope that he will have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of healthy that's the most important things in tennis,

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<v Speaker 4>in a sport.

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<v Speaker 3>And so tell me what you predict for Francesca's Kavoni

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<v Speaker 3>in this next twelve months.

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<v Speaker 4>To be a good coach for younger or for the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity that will arrive. To respect always the life of

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<v Speaker 4>the person that I meet, and to enjoy my life

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes saw oh, to relax. That is not easier because

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<v Speaker 4>I run a lot and I work a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And what are the things that you are passionate about

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<v Speaker 3>in your day to day life?

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<v Speaker 4>Here?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't see why you want to be in Milan.

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<v Speaker 4>It's beautiful. How do you let go to travel? See? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I like Milano. I'm born here. But I'm building a

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<v Speaker 4>club just for me, for members, to give a line

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<v Speaker 4>Italian style and to give to some guys and girls

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to work in my way, to express themselves

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<v Speaker 4>at the best, but always in this way of passion,

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<v Speaker 4>work over the limits and go in this direction. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm building a club that's an amazing experience because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>learning from zero. Now I am two. We have to

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<v Speaker 4>arrive to ten maybe to invite you to visit it.

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<v Speaker 3>So tell me what's the Skivoni Italian style that you'll

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<v Speaker 3>be having.

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<v Speaker 4>This one is very similar. We are elegant, we are

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<v Speaker 4>very passionate. We have a fantastic architect, We have a talent.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good food, you can find, always a good

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<v Speaker 4>hotel to spend the week. So I love Australia. I

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<v Speaker 4>love Australia. First time that I came there, I think

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen ninety nine, I say I want to have

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<v Speaker 4>a house here because I love that place. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know why. I know why Melbourne is green. There are

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<v Speaker 4>some Italian because there is a stylish There is a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of respect for sports, for the culture, for the art,

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<v Speaker 4>and I love this. When I came there, I found

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<v Speaker 4>people fantastic, a big opportunity to work, to express yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter in which way. And I love that place

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<v Speaker 4>that keep going to grow. People love Tennies. When I

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<v Speaker 4>come to Australia, I want to come soon, I hope

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<v Speaker 4>so to find a good talent to come soon and

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<v Speaker 4>to enjoy Melbourne. When can we get you down there.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be able to bring someone from the

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<v Speaker 3>tennis Lab.

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<v Speaker 4>It's coming some years. I would be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always great to hear when a player loves the

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<v Speaker 2>city and the country where you're from. We would welcome

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<v Speaker 2>Francesca back to Australia any time because that was a

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant interview and I could have listened to her talk

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<v Speaker 2>all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Viv Yeah, absolutely, and I loved hearing her recollections of

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<v Speaker 1>her amazing Australian Open match in twenty eleven when she

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<v Speaker 1>beat Spittlana Kuznets of US sixteen fourteen. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was in the third set, a match that went for

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<v Speaker 1>four hours and forty four minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>An absolute epic. And of course we'll be back again

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<v Speaker 2>next Monday when we sit down with esteemed French photographer

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<v Speaker 2>Carineja Broyle, who we caught up with ahead of her

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<v Speaker 2>working her thirty eighth Roland Garross, her first one dating

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<v Speaker 2>back to nineteen eighty seven, So that was a great chat.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, you can tune into John and the

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<v Speaker 1>team on the AO Show weekly on Thursday. Details for

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<v Speaker 1>how to contact us are in the show notes. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>to subscribe, rate and review.

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<v Speaker 2>See you next week, Matt, look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Viv