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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Sitdown. I'm Viv Christie from

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Speaker 1: Australian Tennis magazine.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Matrolote from oz open dot Com and Viv.

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Speaker 2: This week we're bringing you a chat from Italy with

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Speaker 2: the great Francesca Ski of only Grand Slam Singles champion

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Speaker 2: when she won twenty ten Roland Garross over Australian Sam Stoza. Now,

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Speaker 2: as Australia people that work in Australian tennis, Viv, we

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Speaker 2: obviously were captivated by this match in Sam making the final.

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Speaker 2: What do you remember about that match and what eventually

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Speaker 2: unfolded in Paris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a very exciting time for Australian tennis.

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Speaker 1: Sam of course had beaten Justine Hennan on her way

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Speaker 1: to the final and I remember watching that with many

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Speaker 1: of my friends, my tennis friends on a Saturday night

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Speaker 1: at a pub in Richmond, and we were all super excited.

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Speaker 1: But in the end it was an incredible performance and

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Speaker 1: milestone from Francesca.

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Speaker 2: It was For anyone that's listening to this podcast it's

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Speaker 2: not from Australia, they might not know just how big

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Speaker 2: a deal this was to an Australian in the French

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Speaker 2: Open Singles Final. I think that was the first time

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Speaker 2: that had happened since the nineteen seventies, and so naturally,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the match got brought onto Free Too

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Speaker 2: Wear TV when it was when Roland Garross was normally

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Speaker 2: on cable TV, and it was all over the front

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Speaker 2: page of the newspaper. And Sam had gone on to

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Speaker 2: beat Serena as well, So yeah, kind of the signs

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Speaker 2: were there that, you know, we were all behind Sam.

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Speaker 2: But I just remember thinking, even though the Australian in

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Speaker 2: me was supporting Sam, I was so impressed with Francesca

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Speaker 2: Skivoni's approach to the match, how tactically well she played,

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Speaker 2: and then when it got to that tiebreak, she just

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Speaker 2: and just looked destined to win, like she arrived at

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Speaker 2: her moment. It was her dream. It was incredible to

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Speaker 2: see and I think she goes into a little bit

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Speaker 2: of detail about those exact moments and her memories, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all these years later, I mean she talks about

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Speaker 1: the passion and the focus that it took. She'd always

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Speaker 1: had that goal to win Roland Gaross and and she did,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's wonderful also to hear about the respect

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Speaker 1: about her.

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Speaker 2: Sir Francesca caught up with our colleague Shannon Davis in

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Speaker 2: Milan and begun the interview by recalling her win over

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Speaker 2: Serena Williams way back in Rome in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about that moment and how amazing it was

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Speaker 3: in your home country, you taking on and beating in

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Speaker 3: the second round.

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Speaker 4: Serena was been fantastic. Of course, pasted already twenty more years,

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Speaker 4: so it's a long long time ago. But I remember

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Speaker 4: that there was blonde. I was very on fight this

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Speaker 4: mother who could be in front of me. My goal

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Speaker 4: was to beat her. I was shaking. I remember well

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Speaker 4: I play against Serena. I was very respectful for my opponent. Always.

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Speaker 4: I was being like this because my parents teach me

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Speaker 4: how much is important to be respectful to yourself, to

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Speaker 4: the opponent. But to play against Serena was something special.

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Speaker 4: And I say, if I want to catch her and

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Speaker 4: I have to bring where. I have to bring her

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Speaker 4: And I did that. I remember that was a great

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Speaker 4: was very tough, tight every point. She was surfing very good,

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Speaker 4: and you know, twenty kilos of difference between a body

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Speaker 4: some balls important and when she missed something, I say, oh,

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Speaker 4: And I did it.

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Speaker 3: So tell me about you and Clay have a special affinity.

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Speaker 4: At the age of seventeen, between seventeen and eighteen, I

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Speaker 4: several times that I played Rolande Ross, I arrived in

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Speaker 4: wait so long? But I was like this. I always

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Speaker 4: Then second round I played amazing, so something was changing. Physically,

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Speaker 4: Many things together were attached, and I run the third round.

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Speaker 4: I remember against Lena. That match did the click to

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Speaker 4: me more because we played. Both of us played very well.

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Speaker 4: We fight and at the end I won so more confidence,

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Speaker 4: more actitude. I felt that I could do it, and

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Speaker 4: that's very important for an ATHLETs. Then, step by step

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Speaker 4: to the final, I didn't play good and I could win. Wow,

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Speaker 4: semi final very good, respectable, and the final change a

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Speaker 4: was very scared. I cried. I think from eight in

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Speaker 4: of this match, I can understand what's happened inside the body,

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Speaker 4: Tennis is a game. Game is mean to love, to

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Speaker 4: go over the limits, to be strong, but also to enjoy,

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Speaker 4: right moment, in the right condition. So don't worry, don't play.

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Speaker 4: I said, well, how can I don't play? And he

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Speaker 4: If it's the time to cancel. We cancer good after

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Speaker 4: dream amazing, fantastic, that we are close to reach. You

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Speaker 4: leave this moment like a present, like wow, thanks God

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Speaker 4: that you give me this opportunity. And I arrived there

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Speaker 4: with my potential, with my power. So if I arrived there,

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Speaker 4: I give to myself the chance to do it. And

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Speaker 4: I was lucky. I was good. I don't know what happened,

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Speaker 4: and I want Roland Ross. How is that? Lucky and good?

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Speaker 3: Because your protagonist did not match Sam Stouzer, she was

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Speaker 4: Sam was a fantastic add I love some like person

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Speaker 4: I felt that she was very tight. When I was

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Speaker 4: I was reading very well the emotion and the tactic

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Speaker 4: dreaming that moment, I was totally into the match. There

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Speaker 4: In that moment, I turned to my team, I look

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Speaker 4: In that moment, I understand many things that I was there,

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter when or lose. You have to give everything

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Speaker 4: or ancient Yeah, there was anxiety, there was enjoying that

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Speaker 4: I was fluid. When you give opportunity to yourself, you

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Speaker 3: Your fighting spirit was always something that was always on display.

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Speaker 3: Come to the Australia and Open in twenty eleven and

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Speaker 3: you play the longest and Slam match in history against

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Speaker 3: because Netsava, Yeah, tell me about that. That was insane.

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Speaker 4: What the hell that match was was long? We couldn't

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Speaker 4: I spoke with her and then some days after because

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Speaker 4: And she said I was there and I say me too.

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Speaker 4: I was off finish for our forty four minutes. I

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Speaker 4: become four in the world. Incredible. Everything with the four

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Speaker 3: Now you have the mental forever going forward of being

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Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, he's a fantastic person because to

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Speaker 4: Now he's conscient, and every single moment he leaves consciently

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Speaker 4: He couldn't find a way to attack, to use his rhythm,

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Speaker 4: and he could do it. Fantastic is a chapeau. Then

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Speaker 4: the other one went a little bit down and jan

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Speaker 4: Nick went up. Fantastic. I saw the match and they

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Speaker 4: said this this boy, because he's a boy, he's a man,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I said, predict for me his year in twenty

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Speaker 4: Numrouna der Mondo number one in the world and some

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Speaker 3: And so tell me what you predict for Francesca's Kavoni

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Speaker 4: To be a good coach for younger or for the

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Speaker 4: opportunity that will arrive. To respect always the life of

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Speaker 4: sometimes saw oh, to relax. That is not easier because

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Speaker 4: I run a lot and I work a lot.

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Speaker 3: And what are the things that you are passionate about

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Speaker 3: in your day to day life?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 3: I can't see why you want to be in Milan.

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Speaker 4: It's beautiful. How do you let go to travel? See? No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I like Milano. I'm born here. But I'm building a

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Speaker 4: Italian style and to give to some guys and girls

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Speaker 4: learning from zero. Now I am two. We have to

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Speaker 3: So tell me what's the Skivoni Italian style that you'll

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Speaker 4: This one is very similar. We are elegant, we are

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Speaker 4: very passionate. We have a fantastic architect, We have a talent.

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Speaker 4: It's a good food, you can find, always a good

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Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety nine, I say I want to have

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Speaker 4: know why. I know why Melbourne is green. There are

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Speaker 4: some Italian because there is a stylish There is a

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Speaker 4: lot of respect for sports, for the culture, for the art,

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Speaker 4: and I love this. When I came there, I found

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter in which way. And I love that place

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Speaker 4: that keep going to grow. People love Tennies. When I

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Speaker 4: come to Australia, I want to come soon, I hope

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Speaker 4: so to find a good talent to come soon and

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Speaker 4: to enjoy Melbourne. When can we get you down there.

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Speaker 3: I need to be able to bring someone from the

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Speaker 3: tennis Lab.

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Speaker 4: It's coming some years. I would be there.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: It's always great to hear when a player loves the

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Speaker 2: city and the country where you're from. We would welcome

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Speaker 2: Francesca back to Australia any time because that was a

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Speaker 2: brilliant interview and I could have listened to her talk

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Speaker 2: all day.

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Speaker 1: Viv Yeah, absolutely, and I loved hearing her recollections of

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Speaker 1: her amazing Australian Open match in twenty eleven when she

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Speaker 1: beat Spittlana Kuznets of US sixteen fourteen. I think it

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Speaker 1: was in the third set, a match that went for

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Speaker 1: four hours and forty four minutes.

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Speaker 2: An absolute epic. And of course we'll be back again

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Speaker 2: next Monday when we sit down with esteemed French photographer

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Speaker 2: Carineja Broyle, who we caught up with ahead of her

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Speaker 2: working her thirty eighth Roland Garross, her first one dating

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Speaker 2: back to nineteen eighty seven, So that was a great chat.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, you can tune into John and the

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Speaker 1: team on the AO Show weekly on Thursday. Details for

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Speaker 1: how to contact us are in the show notes. Remember

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Speaker 1: to subscribe, rate and review.

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Speaker 2: See you next week, Matt, look forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Viv