WEBVTT - FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT - Talking conflict resolution styles

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, and you guys already know,

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<v Speaker 1>but today we've mixed it up a little bit. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not Ask Uncut like you come here for on

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<v Speaker 1>a Thursday. This is our Tuesday episode, just to really

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<v Speaker 1>throw a stunner in the works. I think they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>used to the little mix up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've had to do it all like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like it's surprise I'm mixing it up. It's like this

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<v Speaker 2>is just stand in last my fuck. We don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what these girls are going to pull out of the

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<v Speaker 2>heart this week. Every week something new. No, we did

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<v Speaker 2>have to mix it up this week. If you listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Tuesday's episode, you'll know that we were fully prepped

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<v Speaker 2>and ready to go with our juicy episode and another

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<v Speaker 2>I guess competing podcast did the same episode. They obviously

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<v Speaker 2>bugged the studio and got in first, so we had

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<v Speaker 2>to change our style for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually it's really interesting we have now like this

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<v Speaker 1>this topic that we were going to do for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's episode. We were originally going to talk about busy

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<v Speaker 1>and like the psychology of being busy and like, how

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that we shouldn't be glorifying, but now it's everywhere. Yeah. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I even sent Britt another article that was written

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<v Speaker 1>by a completely different publication yesterday, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is everyone talking about being busy now.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same week. We wanted to drop it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it's because it's that time of year where like

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much going on and everyone feels like they're

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<v Speaker 1>just stretched the absolute limits when they should be enjoying themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it was very relatable. Anyway, we decided

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<v Speaker 1>to scrap it, put it on whold. We'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>at another point in time and we'll kind of flush

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<v Speaker 1>it out a bit differently. But like we mentioned on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday's episode, today's episode is going to be all about

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<v Speaker 1>conflict resolution. Actually it's really sexy, guys, It's a sexy,

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<v Speaker 1>sexy topic. I did have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Some quizzes and did a lot of research where it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what's your conflict style in a relationship? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, can you just ask me what my

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<v Speaker 2>conflict style is? Full stop? Why does that have to

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<v Speaker 2>be in a relation because I haven't done that for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I read over the notes that Britt made for this

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<v Speaker 2>today's episode and it was all about at work, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Brit, it's got to be about relationships, and.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like why, I don't fucking know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, can we relate it to like work

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<v Speaker 2>and love, like some people just have work?

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is with the conflict resolution and what

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<v Speaker 2>we will speak about, it's relevant to all aspects of

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<v Speaker 2>your life. It is your relationships, it is your friends,

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<v Speaker 2>it is your work colleagues, it's your family, it's all situations.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how you just deal with the stress. But it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. It's not just relationships, So we want to

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<v Speaker 2>make that really clear. It's for everybody in every aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that later before we get into the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see something on the Facebook group which I

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring up with you guys because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>wholesome and it is so funny, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Brit hasn't seen it yet, so I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with you. Okay, one of our listeners had

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<v Speaker 1>posted her Tinder text chat with this guy. So he

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<v Speaker 1>started off the Tinder chat with two truths, one lie

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what the first one was because

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like starts a little bit down like

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<v Speaker 1>where she screenshot the chat from, starts a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>further down the list. But she's like, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>not related to Keith Urban, so that was obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>one that was a lie. And he's like, haha, good guest.

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<v Speaker 1>You get today's mystery prize. You can choose between a

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<v Speaker 1>wheelbarrow ride around Adelaide to see all the wonderful sights

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<v Speaker 1>and all the wonderful people, or a bowl of corn

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<v Speaker 1>flakes with yesterday's milk in it. And she rides back

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<v Speaker 1>and says, well, that's easy, I'll take the wheelbarrow ride,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, good choice, because I already ate the

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<v Speaker 1>corn flakes for breakfast, so I would have been awkward

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<v Speaker 1>if you chose that. Anyway. The reason why this is

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<v Speaker 1>so funny is because she showed up for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Date and the guy brought a wheelbarrow and wheelbarrow lane.

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<v Speaker 1>My god. Yes, her name is Tegan. She's posted this

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<v Speaker 1>on the Facebook group and she has kept us updated

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<v Speaker 1>along the date as well, so there's like videos of

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<v Speaker 1>her sitting in the wheelbarrow and having a ride around.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at the point that not only do you, guys

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<v Speaker 2>as they're happening send us, you are accidentally unfiltered. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>whilst your most embarrassing moments happening, you're like riding to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that now you are. I'm streaming your dates

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<v Speaker 2>to our Facebook group, Tigan.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this. I want to be updated

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<v Speaker 1>constantly about this relationship. Where's it going. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>having a second date coming up, but I'm fully emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>invested in this now and I need to be kept

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<v Speaker 1>along the journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any of this stuff, we need to know how

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<v Speaker 2>it ends, guys. And also you are aware that if

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<v Speaker 2>you get married, you're gonna have to go down the

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<v Speaker 2>aisle in a wheelbarrow, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You're also gonna have to invite us a dear. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what's been happening with you, Brett. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody else's story is the highlight of my week.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's what I brought to the table for, like

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<v Speaker 1>what's been happening in my world.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about last week because we didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it on Tuesday because we saved it for this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week I took a few days off. You guys

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<v Speaker 2>know that. That's why Maddie and Laura did the episode together.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I'm going to take three days off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going up to the Gold Coast to see my

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<v Speaker 2>brother and my nephew and my niece and who I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen in a year. I'd lined up a date

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<v Speaker 2>on the Gold Coast. I was like, I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to get you the stories. I was going to live

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<v Speaker 2>my best life. And then day one, boom, I got appendicitis,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, fuck you, Universe, give me a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking break anyway, So I got appendicitis.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to cancel my day. I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even write back to him, and he was like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>so like we still doing this and I was like, oh, sos,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a pendicitis, Like no, I can't see you.

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<v Speaker 1>And he would have absolutely thought that you made that up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such an unbelievable excuse. Hey, Surrey, couldn't get back

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I hadn't had an appendicitis. I'm a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>year old with an appendicitis. Is The funny thing is

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<v Speaker 1>it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it sounds like the most made up excuse ever,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, curl If anyone's had a pendicitis,

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<v Speaker 2>you like curl over in pain. It is it's like

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<v Speaker 2>someone's stabbing you in the stomach. So when a pendicitis hits,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not necessarily it doesn't come in at one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>He comes in slowly, like you start to get the pains.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the next days after is when it gets worse.

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<v Speaker 1>So day one, I was in bed, curled up.

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<v Speaker 2>It hit me at nighttime and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I've had a pendicitis before three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, this is going to be a pendicitist.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell. And Sherry and Jay came in and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, we're going all of us, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to went wild today.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay's never bin and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I've got a pandicidis.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, well, you just stay home, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like no, I had so much pomo. So I went

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<v Speaker 2>to went wild with a pendicitis. I was going down

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<v Speaker 2>the slide like holding my groin, rolling around then that

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<v Speaker 2>was the one thing I got to do. Then it

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<v Speaker 2>got too bad and I just had to sit around

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<v Speaker 2>at home. That was my week guys, I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>could come back and tell you about hot sexy dates,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're a pendicitus, did you dirty?

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<v Speaker 2>By pandizes to be bloody dirty if it happens again,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't have to take it out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the reason why you're single, That's it, the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason. Yes, it's your a pandemic. She just get

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<v Speaker 1>that shit removed and get on with your dating life. Yeah, fully,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's it. Just so you guys know, Brittany's just

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<v Speaker 1>taken her top off and she's sitting here in her

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<v Speaker 1>undies and her bra recording this episode. She just was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so hot. I hope that you're okay with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna take this off. She's literally nude, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just here pregnant with my hairy belly flopping around

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor like a whale. I was like sweating,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so hot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're at that stage now where we can

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<v Speaker 2>record nude.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great, perfect, I'm gonna not record nude. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see this, no one does. But anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>had something really funny happened to me yesterday. So have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard of the Instagram celeb Spellcheck correct. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, if you haven't heard of celeb spellcheck, go

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<v Speaker 1>and follow him. It's a private account so you have

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<v Speaker 1>to request it. But it's very funny. Basically, celeb spell

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<v Speaker 1>Check is they just take the piece of celebs. They

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely take the piss out of celebs or dealers celebs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think that we could. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Britain I can collect claim celebs say so. Basically

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<v Speaker 1>they hold people's terrible spelling accountable, which is pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like when celebrities do things which are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like questionable, they also seem to post and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just so on the ball. It's really really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So much to my surprise yesterday when I get tagged

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<v Speaker 1>in a post that's been put on celeb spellcheck. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>god what Okay? So I get tagged in this post

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<v Speaker 1>and it is a photo of a Vinnie like a

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<v Speaker 1>Savage Army or a Vinnis, And there are two Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>stockings hanging up in this Vinnie's with like four dollar

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<v Speaker 1>price tags on them. One says Buster on it and

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<v Speaker 1>one says Marley May on it. And celeb Spellcheck has

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<v Speaker 1>fully fucking busted me. So basically the post says, if

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<v Speaker 1>you also have a child named Marley May and a

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<v Speaker 1>dog named Buster, it's your lucky day. Get your hands

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<v Speaker 1>on unwanted Christmas freebies kindly donated by at Lady and

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<v Speaker 1>a cat to the local Vinnis. And then it is

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<v Speaker 1>just so many people trolling me in the comments section.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want to say, I have literally never

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<v Speaker 1>seen these stockings before. Who's gonna want your stocking?

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<v Speaker 2>You think that someone's gonna want your stocking, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>probably with your family's names.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think has happened is that my shop, Tony

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<v Speaker 1>May is directly next door to a Vinnie's, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that a delivery that was supposed to be sent

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<v Speaker 1>to me at Tony May has accidentally been given to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vinis next door, and they've just unpacked it and

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<v Speaker 1>put it on the shelves. Because I've literally never seen

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<v Speaker 1>these stockings before. And also I'm not dumb enough to

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<v Speaker 1>put stuff that has my kid's name on it in

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<v Speaker 1>the vinnie that's next door to my shop. I would

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<v Speaker 1>just put it in the bin. Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me of last week when I accidentally gave

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas present to my cousin that was embroidered with Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>This just makes me seem like such an ungrateful influenza,

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<v Speaker 2>like some brand has sent me this. And there are

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<v Speaker 2>certain things that you just don't give to a Viny's

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<v Speaker 2>in live and they are things that are embroidered with

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<v Speaker 2>your family's name.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also now a Daily Mail article that's come out

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<v Speaker 1>about it, which just makes me sound like is such

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<v Speaker 1>a pop person. Anyway, Alisa didn't end up in a

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<v Speaker 1>landfill here. I am just trying to do the right

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<v Speaker 1>thing by the environment, regift my gifts, and I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>flak for it. So this actually reminds me. Have you seen?

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel really sorry for what's going around the

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<v Speaker 2>media at the moment, at least Nols. I've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>poor girl's being trolled, and I do feally sorry for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story short, I love her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not the greatest speller, and she often makes spelling mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine, like who cares? But there are so

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<v Speaker 2>many celebrity sites like this spell chack. And there is

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<v Speaker 2>one person in particular called the Fat Jewish who has

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty million followers. He got a hold of one

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<v Speaker 2>of Elsa's posts. So basically has taken a photo of

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<v Speaker 2>herself on the bed and she's gone to write the

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<v Speaker 2>French word vola, which we all know starts with what

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<v Speaker 2>we don't all know, but well clearly we don't all know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the whole point of the story. It starts with

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<v Speaker 2>a v woola. Alise obviously doesn't know that, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>written at wawlah wolla cute fine, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows how to spell that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the hardest word to spell anyway, like would you

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<v Speaker 2>be able to spell of Laura Celeb spellcheck screenshot at it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it ended up on the Fat Jewish and

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<v Speaker 2>then it just went viral.

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<v Speaker 1>And so here's this photo of poor Elise Knowles with

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<v Speaker 1>the caption.

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<v Speaker 2>Wola apparently actually something in Arabic or something. But I

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<v Speaker 2>feel really sorry for it because she's been trolled over it,

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<v Speaker 2>and guys like, if someone makes a spelling mistake, who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it means we need to drag them

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<v Speaker 1>through the mud. Also, shout out to all.

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<v Speaker 2>These people overseas. There are so many people overseas is

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<v Speaker 2>writing Oh what more.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you expect from Australians. They're all uneducated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's so interesting to see how the world

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<v Speaker 2>looks at Australia. I watched something else. Oh I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>a roll now. I watched something last week where there

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<v Speaker 2>was a quiz show in America America and the question

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<v Speaker 2>was what and you got eliminated if you didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>the question right. The question was what language do they

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<v Speaker 2>speak in Australia And everyone was like, oh great, why

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<v Speaker 2>does he get the easy question because now he can

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<v Speaker 2>stay in the competition and he goes, oh easy Dutch.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. I remember when I had a exchange student come

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<v Speaker 1>and stay with me when I was like maybe fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>or fourteen, and she was from America and she we

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<v Speaker 1>were on the train, we were going down to Kyama

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<v Speaker 1>to have a beautiful day, and she was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so funny how like English and Australian are so

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<v Speaker 1>close together. And I was like, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, obviously, like you speak Australian, but

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<v Speaker 1>then like English people speak English, but the language is

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<v Speaker 1>so similar. And I was like, bitch, you a crack,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are you talking about. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we speak English here and she was like, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>speak Australian couldn't convince. It could not convince, so really common.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, okay, will you say that, like people stereotype

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<v Speaker 1>Australians is being dumb because we have that whole like

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<v Speaker 1>outback country hickfield thing going on, but we're now also

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<v Speaker 1>stereotyping other people to say, well that they think that

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<v Speaker 1>Australians are umb as well. I don't think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a blanket rule. I just think that there's always

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<v Speaker 1>some outliers from all over the place. But going back

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<v Speaker 1>to Elice Knowles, I mean I think we care too

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<v Speaker 1>much about grammar. There's always the grammar police on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always the grammar police who are on Facebook. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we're so quick to like judge and pick

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<v Speaker 1>and like when somebody comes up with like really good

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<v Speaker 1>rebuttal to an argument, but then they've written they're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They've written like t H E R instead of tre

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<v Speaker 1>and the other person's response is like, well, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could learn to spell first. It's just such a pathetic

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<v Speaker 1>way of undercutting someone and like minimizing their argument to

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<v Speaker 1>say like, well, because you've got one spelling mistake in

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<v Speaker 1>your response, your complete argument is invalid.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I it is my favorite thing to

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<v Speaker 2>do in like a text fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I also do it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like if like when they write something like this

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<v Speaker 2>big argument, like I'm talking privately, not like to cut

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<v Speaker 2>them down, like if he was with a boyfriend or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine that if you're having that text fight with someone though,

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<v Speaker 2>and they write like there instead of they are or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. The best thing that you can do

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<v Speaker 2>back is you like ignore everything else in the text

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<v Speaker 2>and you just do it where you recorrect it with asterix.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you just don't even need to write anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much strength to It's such a power move,

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<v Speaker 2>is it, though? Yeah, I fucking love it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do it like I wouldn't do it publicly to

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<v Speaker 2>someone to cut them down. I don't think like we

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<v Speaker 2>all make spelling mistakes. I just think Elisee doesn't deserve this,

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<v Speaker 2>So the moral of the stories don't add us.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that Lisee doesn't deserve this. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal. Like I think it's funny. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a funny spelling mistake. If I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>on the fat Jewish because I had written Ala instead

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<v Speaker 1>of wolla, I would laugh at it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I would take that to offense.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, That is the funny thing. The thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>bad is the hundreds of thousands of people trolling her

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<v Speaker 2>like it's everywhere, and they're being nasty, like it's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the bit I'm not cool with.

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<v Speaker 2>If I ended up on fat Jewish for a spelling

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<v Speaker 2>mistake Loolcano, like, it would be so funny. It's what

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<v Speaker 2>comes after that. It's like he sends an army of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million people to go one right or off.

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<v Speaker 1>That you would end up on fad Jewish for saying

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<v Speaker 1>shit like Lolcano. Let's be real, pick that up, fat Jewish. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into some accidentally unfiltered Okay, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you have and I can't believe they said that, So

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<v Speaker 1>you can kick it off. Brett.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is actually pretty cute and funny. Last week,

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<v Speaker 2>this happened to someone I know. Last week on the

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast when I was seeing my brother. My best

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<v Speaker 2>friend of twenty eight years lives up there and she's

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<v Speaker 2>got a little boy and little girl, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen him in a long time. Anyway, we went up

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<v Speaker 2>and he's her son is about four. She was going

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<v Speaker 2>to the supermarket with him, and at the local supermarket

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<v Speaker 2>there is someone that works there that is I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to actually say that he's a dwarf, but politically we

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<v Speaker 2>don't say dwarf anymore. Just going to tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>they're called little people. Anyway, there was a little person

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<v Speaker 2>that worked there, and he's like, everyone knows him. My

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<v Speaker 2>best friend knows him. She's always like, hey, low and stuff. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>this particular day, she's like, I don't know why. My

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<v Speaker 2>son walked straight up to him, looked at him in

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes, looked at me and goes, mom, why is

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<v Speaker 2>the baby wearing a watch? And then he goes she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, lawson, she's awsen, that's enough, let's go. And

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, also, why has the baby got a mustache?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so intense and insensitive to his face. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm dying for you. What did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like, to be fair in his defense, she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was mortified, like I wanted to die. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was like it's fine, and he's like, that's the best

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<v Speaker 2>thing I've had said to me in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what. I think we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable with kids saying things that are uncomfortable because like,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are going to do it, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a filter, right, Whereas like I think it's the parents'

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<v Speaker 1>response to that situation that makes it better or worse. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think in that situation, if that was me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have said, actually, do you know what, He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a baby. This is something you know, there's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different types of people in the world, and some people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not as tall as other people, and

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<v Speaker 1>some people have different types of abilities and disabilities, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would try and explain it to make itsusive. Only

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<v Speaker 1>know this from my own experience where I've worked with

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<v Speaker 1>people who have disabilities, where it's like the embarrassment of

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<v Speaker 1>the mum or the embarrassment of the parent is actually

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<v Speaker 1>what amplifies the whole situation. Instead of saying, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why that person is sitting in a chair with wheels

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<v Speaker 1>is because they can't walk, and there are lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people who can't walk, and explaining that situation to a

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<v Speaker 1>child so that they can grasp like what disability is

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<v Speaker 1>is so important. The thing that bothers you in this

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<v Speaker 1>situation is how they're going to feel at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I had this moment of panning where I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, my son has just hurt this man's feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>But he laughed.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, he's like, I'm grown up with my

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<v Speaker 2>whole life like this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I think it's funny. It makes my day.

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<v Speaker 1>She said. She's like that was my saving grace. How

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<v Speaker 1>grat he was.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I just can't believe the things that come

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<v Speaker 2>out of kid's mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's the thing, right, Like the people

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<v Speaker 1>who have these disabilities have grown up with it in

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<v Speaker 1>their whole life. They're not embarrassed by it. So the

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<v Speaker 1>only person who feels that embarrassment is the mum. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an uncomfortable situation. But you can diffuse that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that it's easy to do, but it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>something that you can take agency over. I love how

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<v Speaker 1>shit kids are. So the other day, my niece so,

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<v Speaker 1>like my niece and my nephew, they all know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pregnant, but I don't think that they've They've only

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen me like wearing T shirts and stuff, so

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<v Speaker 1>they've not really seen my belly. Then the other day

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home and I took my took my

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<v Speaker 1>top pop file was wearing a bikini and my niece

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<v Speaker 1>comes over and she goes, why is your belly so fat?

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was repulsed to buy it, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>please just don't. I was like, this is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with for a while now, darling, thank you, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where the baby lives. They just have absolutely no filter.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't take offense. Kids have no idea. They're

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<v Speaker 2>dumb dumps. Okay, I'm going to bring in accidentally unfiltered ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually something I feel like you would do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, ladies. I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be offended by this or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies, please come dig my grave for me. Yesterday I

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<v Speaker 2>had to go to the physio for my dodgy hip.

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<v Speaker 2>And for this appointment, I got one of the new physios. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, he was gorgeous. I'm literally talking

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<v Speaker 2>an eleven out of ten and he was so lovely

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Anyway, I'm lying face down on my stomach

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<v Speaker 2>and he's kind of like digging around my up hip

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<v Speaker 2>flexer butt region doing some massaging. We're having a really

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<v Speaker 2>nice chat while he's doing this, and suddenly, out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 2>I let off the most unsubtle, biggest, stinkiest fart I

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<v Speaker 2>have ever done. He must've just he must have just

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<v Speaker 2>poked the perfect spot to push it out. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even play it off as been any other noise either.

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<v Speaker 2>I safe to say I won't be showing my face again. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>hang on, This is all she wrote. I needed to

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<v Speaker 2>know more, so I wrote, I was like, hang on, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just come and say you fired on the

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<v Speaker 2>hottest guy ever in a silent room and not tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like, you can't downplay that like any other situation,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I far in a supermarket, I can blame

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<v Speaker 1>or my kid. You can't downplay farting in your underwear

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<v Speaker 1>getting your ass massaged by like a physio. It's nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>to hide.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to just you have to just look up

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<v Speaker 2>and laugh and be like I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, whoa girl, you can't drop that

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<v Speaker 2>you fared on a hot guy and didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do? What did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? What was the situation I'm on the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>my seat. She's like, literally, you could have heard a

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<v Speaker 2>pin drop. Everything just went quiet for three seconds. He

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<v Speaker 2>stopped massaging for a second and then we just paused.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we just went on a day again. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>he just kept massaging and we kept talking like nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Something happened. I felt that need to address the elephant

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<v Speaker 1>in the room because that is gonna linger as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I will never forget the day. But also, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go back. No, yeah, you're done. The eleven Hotti is out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget the day that one of my really

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<v Speaker 1>close friends told me about how so she she'd met

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<v Speaker 1>this guy and they were dating, and like she was

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<v Speaker 1>really into him, and anyway, they had gotten intimate for

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<v Speaker 1>like the first time, and he had gone down on

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<v Speaker 1>her and she was like it was the best I

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<v Speaker 1>had the best orgasm ever had in my life. He

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing, and I was so relaxed, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, I accidentally farted in his face whilst he

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<v Speaker 1>was going down on her, Like like a no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you can play them off. They smell particularly different.

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.440
<v Speaker 1>You're not strongy. Farted in his face whilst he was

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<v Speaker 1>going down on her and she was like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea how it happened. I was just so relaxed.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt like I'm so mortified. They don't I'm sorry, girl.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't fall out. They don't just like fall out

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<v Speaker 2>your bar. They can everyone's done a surprise far before.

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<v Speaker 2>You've never done a surprise far whered that come from? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it just falls out, you know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what happens sometimes is people think that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like small and cute, and like nobody

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 2>thinks it's going to be small and cute when someone's

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<v Speaker 2>face is between your legs, like, you don't take that risk, girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>that was an accidental.

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<v Speaker 1>Far How may people drop farts without knowing? Not that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know, it, just like can sometimes happen and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're like, oh, I was expecting that. A few

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<v Speaker 1>friends the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to name the ame because I would

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<v Speaker 2>never do that. It was so funny though, a few

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.679
<v Speaker 2>friends were all in the lungdry room sitting around just

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<v Speaker 2>like having a chap and one of my friends just

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<v Speaker 2>bent she dropped something. She bent down to pick it

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<v Speaker 2>up and just let the biggest fart room and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I didn't know that was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the hell? Like this? What is wrong

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with all you people? They don't just come out without

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.679
<v Speaker 1>you knowing. You haven't had children yet. Stuff just happened

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.879
<v Speaker 1>that I sneeze an ape, I cough and ope, I

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<v Speaker 1>laugh and ape. I leave this room after recording, and

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.720
<v Speaker 1>my pants are full of pee. Things just happened to

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<v Speaker 1>my body they have no control over. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>put that up on our Instagram poll. How many times

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 1>have you accidentally farted without realizing until it happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are so many of you out there. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>leave me out here in the lamb. Now you need

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<v Speaker 2>to phrase it. How many people let their farts slip out?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just follow up with this story. They ended

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<v Speaker 1>up dating for like five years. Well, he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually so happy that you feel so comfortable and

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<v Speaker 1>relaxed around me. It was like the weirdest, most beautiful

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:02.479
<v Speaker 1>response that made me feel strange. Anyway, Okay, this morning,

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in my half awake state, I could hear some strange sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, I thought maybe he was coming from the

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<v Speaker 1>TV downstairs, but I soon realized the noise was actually

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<v Speaker 1>coming from my husband's bedside table. My husband had been

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<v Speaker 1>watching YouTube the night before on his wireless headphones in bed,

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<v Speaker 1>so I reach over. I grabbed the headphones and I

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<v Speaker 1>hold them up to my ear and oh my god,

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:31.439
<v Speaker 1>it's this man moaning. Wait no, it's also a woman moaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's a man and a woman going

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<v Speaker 2>at it over my husband's headphones. You guys, I realized

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 2>my husband was downstairs in the shower watching pawn and

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<v Speaker 2>he had no idea that I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought he was doing it silently. I go, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes this so funny is that he thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was being super stealth by watching it with no sound on,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was actually on full fucking blast, so loud

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 1>that it woke me up. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>But also this is like, I can't get my head

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<v Speaker 2>around it yet because I'm not in a relationship anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would he leave his wife in bed and go

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:07.640
<v Speaker 2>down and says to listen to porn?

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Like, wouldn't you just roll over and have sex with

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<v Speaker 1>your wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes she can't be bothered, she has written here, I

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>can't stop laughing thinking about it, you know, what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like sometimes you just want to tickle the pickle all

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<v Speaker 1>by yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, she answered my question, but I think, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this. I laugh so hard when this came through.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love it so much because I think every

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<v Speaker 1>time we receive conversations around porn, and we receive conversations

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<v Speaker 1>around like oh I saw my partner watching porn, or

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered my partner watching porn, it's always in such

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<v Speaker 1>a negative light. It's always like the person feels betrayed

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't know that their partner was watching porn.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just love that this woman has written in

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<v Speaker 1>and she can see the hilarity in it. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>like offended or threatened by him going and doing it,

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you know what, every so often you

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<v Speaker 1>just gotta go and run one out yourself, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>so okay. I don't think there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything wrong with porn occasionally, Like I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>watch it personally, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think you don't watch it ever. No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm personally not into it. I never have been.

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched it before with like old partners, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>done it more for them, like it just doesn't do

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>anything for me. I would rather think back and imagine

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 2>something like a real situation.

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm too lazy. I prefer porn.

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 2>But I think when we do get all these questions

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.360
<v Speaker 2>in about like people really offended that their partner's watching porn.

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything wrong with it if it's

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<v Speaker 2>once in a blue moon. The problem comes when it's

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 2>all the time, in replacement of you every day and

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 2>there's a proper addiction, When they're starting to think that

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 2>normal sex isn't enough, that's when the problem comes. Anyway,

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to talk about that now. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other episode.

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>That is actually a whole other episode. But you've never

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>done an episode on porn through But I think that

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that's a good conversation because I do think that there's

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot of negative connotations around it. There's a lot

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.400
<v Speaker 1>of thread around it. But yeah, like you said, let's

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.199
<v Speaker 1>look get into it now. Just let Laura watch her

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>porn in peace. That's what she wants. That's the message

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 1>for her episode. Sometimes you got to tickle your pickle, guys.

0:24:55.040 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>I do like pickles. So I have been really really

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to doing this episode because we did. We

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>did what we did attachment styles, and we've done love

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>languages in the past, And I feel like this conversation

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>around conflict resolution and our conflict styles is kind of

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>like the third phase in those conversations.

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, they all intertwined, don't they, Like they all have

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>something to do with each other.

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they were so quick to talk about how

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>our love languages define our relationship or how our attachment

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>styles define our relationship. But I actually think genuinely what

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 1>results in like a long term happy relationship is our

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>ability to resolve conflict. Like I think conflict and our

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>conflict resolution is so important in actually being able to

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 1>maintain a long term happy relationship. And Britain and I

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.360
<v Speaker 1>have done so much research and unpacking this, and we've

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.719
<v Speaker 1>looked at a couple of different studies. We've also kind

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 1>of broken down for this episode, what are the five

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>different conflict styles and then also like what are the

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.959
<v Speaker 1>different types of fighting that we get into, Like you know,

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>whether it's like passive aggressive, whether it's defensiveness, all these

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>different character traits of how we deal with conflict and

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.719
<v Speaker 1>how we act in like a real nitty gritty way.

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>We want to unpack all of that in this episode. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it sounds like a heavy one, but I'm

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>sure we're playing the last and arguments that are a

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>completely unavoidable part of every relationship. I think if you

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>try and completely avoid them, you're never going to resolve

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 1>things that come up, and you're never going to be

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>able to work together as a team to actually find

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that deeper level of love and respect for each other.

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And there's this fear about arguments and this fear about

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>fighting that it's always going to end up in or

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 1>we're going to break up, you know. I think that

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely some relationships that are so volatile where you

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like every time you have a fight it's going

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to mean the end of the relationship. But I think,

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, fights can be a really really great way

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of galvanizing you. Conflict can be an amazing way of

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>making you work together as a team, and it really

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of separates the people who are going to make

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>it for the long haul and the relationships that are

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:49.199
<v Speaker 1>going to fucking fizzle.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, like Laurid has said, conflict's arguments, fighting,

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 2>it's all inevitable. There is absolutely no way you can

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 2>have a long term healthy relationship without the fighting.

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they actually.

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 2>That couples that don't argue and disagree and fight at all,

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 2>that there's something wrong in that relationship because it means

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 2>that someone's probably suppressing their feelings. The thing that they

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 2>say is, it's not actually the fighting that's the problem.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 2>Couples have a really hard time coming to terms with

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's not the fighting and it's not

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 2>what it's about. The thing that's important is how you

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>deal with the fight. And that's why we wanted to

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>go into this. That's why we thought it was so

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 2>important to go into this, because how you deal with

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>a fight is literally what will determine your relationship.

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you are in a relationship where you're like, oh

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>my god, me and my brave friend, we never fight,

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>we fly out so much. Well, no, I don't think

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you're necessarily lying. I just don't think you've necessarily done

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the full spectrum of your relationship yet. Matt and I

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we never ever used to fight, Like I honestly, before

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>having kids, before like living together, when we were in

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>our honeymoon phase, we never fought. And I was like,

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>this relationship is blissed. This is how relationships are supposed

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to be. And now that we have more responsibilities, now

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>that there's more stress, now that there's more pressure, now

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>that we have to deal with money, like all of

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>these different aspects of a really serious, committed relationship that

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:06.679
<v Speaker 1>are going through the full journey of life. Yeah, of

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>course we argue. We don't fight like Matt and I

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>never we never fight in a way that's like toxic

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to our relationship. But we argue and then we resolve it.

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think that, you know, us being able to

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>argue and respect each other has been really really beneficial

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>in us actually forming a deeper connection. And I would

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>say even though now we argue in our relationship very

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>sporadically and from time to time, we're way closer now

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>than what we were when we're in our honeymoon phase,

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>when we were like everything is us, everything is the

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>thing is in a while since I sung that.

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Song, You're a welcome seeing that to me all the time,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you see it to Marley, You're I's got like, No,

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the thing is everything that I've read for every relationship therapist,

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>every psychologist, and even like it does it is just

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>how I feel about the situation as well. Couples that

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 2>absolutely say that they never ever fight, they never argue,

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.479
<v Speaker 2>and never disagree. It's it's almost in pot someone is

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 2>just suppressing their feelings and their opinions and their thoughts

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>too much, because it is impossible to find two people

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.479
<v Speaker 2>in the world that can a find each other and

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>then totally one hundred percent agree with every single thing

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>in life, Like it's impossible. What it just means is

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a part of you, and we're going to

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 2>go into this that has a bit of an avoidance style,

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>which is where like you just want to please you

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>just you can't be bothered to have the argument, so

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you're like, yeah, babe, like that's fine, whatever, I'm sorry,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>let's not talk about it. So we're going to break

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>them all down now. But we think the really important

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>thing is once you know your style, and once you

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>know your partner's style, it's important to know how to

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 2>use that, how to change that, and how to work

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>together to continue your relationship and progress in a really

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>healthy way.

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Totally because exactly what we talked about when we did

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the Love Languages episode, you might have a different conflict

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>style to your partner, and that's where things can become

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>really tricky like if And we talked about this on

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the last Ask Uncut episode where I did it with Matt.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>The person had written in saying that there's somebody who

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>requires a lot of reassurance and their partner is more

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of an avoid and that leaves them feeling really invalidated

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in their relationship and in their fights, and that it

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>makes them really frantic and really upset because they want

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>their partner to tell them, you know, to love them

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and reassure them, but really when they're having a fight,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>their partner just wants to kind of go away and

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of time to themselves. So I

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's really important. And we actually did our own

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>conflict resolution style tests, So there's a test that you

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>can do that tells you how you deal with conflict,

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and you can sit down and do that with your

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>partner as well, and that gives you a better understanding

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of who they are as a person. And you know,

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>relationships are all about compromise and compromising on your conflict

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>styles and not expecting someone to fight in the exact

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>same way that you fight, because that's unfair as well.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, we expect to compromise in our love languages.

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>We expect to compromise in our attachment styles. We expect

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>this level of understanding in all other aspects of our life,

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes when it comes to fighting, we can be

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>so fucking stubborn. Because what happens when you are angry

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>about something or you want to win. Now, I want

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>to win. But what happens is we have a rational

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>mind and we have an emotional mind, and the emotional mind,

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>when it is angry, is much more powerful than the

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>rational mind, and we don't have the capacity to use

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>both simultaneously at the same time. Very well. Even though

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>we are a very advanced species, there's some things that

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>we still haven't got our shit together on. You might

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>even recognize this in yourself. But when you feel angry

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>at your partner, if you're in a relationship, and I

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>know I do this, when I'm angry at Matt for something,

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>my rational mind completely goes out the window. I'm not

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>angry and thinking at the same time, Oh, I love

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>this man so much. You know I'm gonna talk to

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>him calmly. We're gonna have a lovely conversation. I'm like,

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even care if he walks out the door

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>right now. I want to strangle yourse. I care like,

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>of course, my rational mind would be devastated if he

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>actually walked out the door. You'd be like, no way,

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I was joking back, totally, totally here. But in that

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>moment of anger that overpowers any feelings of love, any

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>feelings of adoration, of any feelings of you know, all

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>of this hard work that you've put together as a couple,

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>anger is so powerful that it can override all of

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>those other emotions, and it can make you feel very

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>irrational and well, that's why it's important all the time

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to not necessarily have conversations around arguments when you're feeling angry.

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's really important to step away from it, have

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that time to cool down, and then have the conversation

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>about whatever it is that's made you upset. When you're

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>able to actually use your rational mind so that you

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>don't say things or do things, or act passive aggressively,

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>or just behave in a way that's going to damage

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the relationship further, or it's going to create more of

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a problem. You end up finding not even about the

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>thing that happened, but about the way that you're speaking

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to each other or the way that you're treating each other.

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is, we've all I all want you

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>to think back. We've all sent a message or said

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>something in the heat of a moment that you immediately

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>regret and you're like, fuck, why did.

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I say that.

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 2>That's because you should never ever ever fight or send

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a message or send an email or do anything when

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>you are mad, like please, don't step away from your computer,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 2>turn it off, throw it out the window, whatever you

0:32:59.320 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>have to.

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Do, do some deep breathing, and go for a walk.

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>One percent, nothing good ever comes from sending a message

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>when you're really mad, because then what happens is you

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>know that you might not have meant it, and you

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>will apologize for it down the track. You'll be like, look,

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I said that. I didn't mean to you,

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I was angry. The damage is done. You've said it,

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>and your partner or your friend or whoever knows that

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>that is somewhere lying inside of you, and that sometimes

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>can be irreparable. Okay, So let's actually get into what

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>the argument styles are.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>So there is a researcher named doctor John Gotman, and

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>doctor John Gottman is he's kind of the founder for

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>this research, he spent thirty forty years. I mean there's

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>forty years, let's go forty years. Sure. He spent the

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>last forty years researching why some couples managed to like

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>stay together and how they deal with conflict versus why

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>some couples their relationships disintegrate. So there's been two massive

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>studies that have been done. One of them was this

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>longitudinal study that went over the space of thirty years

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>where he observed newlyweds and then years and years later

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>figured out which ones stayed together which ones didn't. And

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>he thinks somebody to talks about commitment long research min issues,

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>does he Well, it's actually having his wife who do it,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and they're both psychologists and they have So basically what

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>happened is in the seventies there was this huge influx

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>in divorce rates, and as a sort of knee jerk

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>response to this, a lot of psychologists and philosophers started

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.359
<v Speaker 1>doing research studies around why were people getting divorced and

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>what impact was this going to have on children and

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>on couples and their ability to live long and happy

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>lives now that divorce rates were going up exponentially, and

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>then David Gotman sort of jumped on the bandwagon in

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy, but he did some really profound research around

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty six, and that's when he did this nearly

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>weired research study, and basically the results of this have

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>come out to say that it's a ninety percent predictor

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of couples that are going to stay together and couples

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that will divorce. Because he believes that conflict style comes

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>down to everything in a relationship. And so five complict

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>styles that there are. Three of them are healthy and

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>can be used in different ways. Two of them are

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>incredibly unhealthy. So the three healthy ones are conflict avoids,

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>volatile couples. Doesn't really sound like that should be positive, Yeah,

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but it is volatile couples validating couples. They're the three positives.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>The two negatives are hostile couples and hostile detached couples. Now, Brittan,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I both did our own tests, and before we unpack

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>what each one is, what are you, Brittany? So mine

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>was actually really surprising.

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I did Oprah's test because I love Oprah, but then

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 2>we did the same test, so I, yeah, I thought

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd be avoidant, but I actually got a validating style

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>of conflict, which I can see as well. But it

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>was surprising because I thought in my mind that I

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>was just a complete avoid of conflict, but turns out

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I do avoid conflict at all times. I mean,

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 2>you can even look back on my Bachelor Bachelor in Paradise.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I just I wasn't even on the show because I

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 2>was like me, I just got so awkward whenever there

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>was a fight. I was just like, I don't I

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>just naturally it makes me really anxious. Like I not

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 2>that long ago got into an argument with a friend,

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 2>which I have never done it my life, Like I've

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>never arguing with a friend, and I was almost physically

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>sick at the thought of fighting with someone and talking

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>about it. And I literally avoided it. I was literally saying,

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>let's forget it. I don't want to talk about anything

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 2>about it, Let's move on with our friendship. But she

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>her style of conflict was quite like aggressive and quite

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about this now, we're dealing with this, now,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>this is what And I was like, Matte, don't want

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to let's pretend it didn't happen. Even though I was

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 2>not in the wrong at all, I was just like, look,

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm apologizing that you felt that way, but let's move

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>on because I'm done with it. I will avoid it

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>at all costs, But validating just means that I don't

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 2>want to be in it. But when I am in it,

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I won't avoid it. So when you're avoidant and you're

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>in a fight, proper proper couples that are avoidant or

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you're a proper person that has avoidant argument style will

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 2>literally shut down. They won't even engage in the conversation

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 2>at all. They won't hear anything, they won't contribute, they'll

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>literally just walk away or sit there in silence. That

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 2>is what it means. When I get to that point,

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I will happily have conversation. If I'm in the room

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's happening, I will go at it. I will

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 2>prove my points, and I won't avoid it once it's there,

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll just avoid the situation happening.

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.240
<v Speaker 1>But avoidant conflict style doesn't mean. It doesn't mean stone walling,

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't mean silent treatment. And I think that

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the really important I think the language in this

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>can be a bit confusing. So that's what I would

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 1>just want to like separate out avoidance styles just mean

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that when there's conflict, you need a little bit of

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>time to go away to process and then you'll have

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a conversation about it. It doesn't mean that you avoid

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>it completely. People who avoid completely and will get into

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 1>this later, people who avoid completely by giving someone the

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>silent treatment. That's actually one of what they call the

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>four horsemens of conflict. And it's like that's the beginning

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of the end.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the frustrating bit where you're in the fire

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and you're like say something anything, because they're just sitting

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:44.720
<v Speaker 2>there in silence.

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think sometimes when people do that, like silence,

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like silence is more powerful than anything else, and it

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>can be more hurtful than anything else. We'll get into

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>what that is and break down avoidant a little bit further.

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>But I was really surprised by mine. Actually, no, I

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 1>take that back. I wasn't surprised at all. So I'm

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>sure suggressive. I'm not. No, I'm not a hostile, but

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Mine was still a positive conflict style.

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm a volatile, volatile conflict style, which basically just means

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that like I'm very passionate, i am very opinionated and

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't hold back, but also I make up very

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>quickly so and Matt is exactly the same. And I

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>would have thought that we were like a bit more collaborative,

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but then reading about how we fight and this is

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>really interesting. One of the things that was like one

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 1>of the key questions in our little questionnaire was like,

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>what do you do when somebody is trying to bring

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>up conflict with you? And like, for me, in the

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>heat of the moment, if Matt is angry at me

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>and he's getting telling me what I've done wrong, in

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>my mind, I'm formulating my rebuttal like, that's what I'm doing.

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not listening to what he's saying. I'm like, I'm

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>to tell you what you did wrong. Actually, that is

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>totally you, totally And it's like a defensive thing. And

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I've spoken about a little bit on past episodes. For me,

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not like I am really really conscious of it now.

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>And I try not to do it because I understand

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>that it's not helpful and it doesn't actually progress the

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>conversation to a point where where you know, making up.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I do it is because I

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want to believe that I have hurt his feelings.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>So instead of actually accepting and saying I'm really sorry

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that I've done that, I'm really sorry that I've hurt

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>your feelings straight away, I continue to hurt his feelings. No,

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>what I do is that I invalidate those feelings by

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>saying like, well, that didn't happen, or like you're overreacting. Yeah, fully,

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>but we do it twe each other because Matt and

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I are exactly the same in the way that we fight,

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about this now and like we recognize

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that in each other, and as soon as someone is

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>doing it, we can easily say, like, hey, you're not

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 1>listening to me, you're deflecting. This isn't helpful. Let's talk

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:47.240
<v Speaker 1>about this in ten minutes.

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 2>And both very strong personalities. And I've seen you have

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>little arguments, like nothing serious, but I've seen it and

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you it's definitely not collaborative style.

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're both strong.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.399
<v Speaker 2>And you're both stubborn, and you both want to be right,

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and so I don't want to be wrong. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>completely normal as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that there's a lot of people

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>who like default is defensiveness in relationships and in fighting.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>But like the other thing with volatile conflict styles is

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that you also make up really quickly, and you also

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>make up in a very passionate way. So like make up,

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean anymore you're all pregnant bird over here. But

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>more so, just like our fights are very short lived,

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Like any argument or conflict that we have in our relationship,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I give it an hour before one of us is like,

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm baby, I'm so sorry. Like you know, we always

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>see things from each other's perspective. It's just we deal

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>with things as soon as they happen, and we usually

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>are dealing with things when we're both still a bit mad.

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's the problem is like when you're a bit mad,

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>like I said, your emotional mind overcrowds your rational mind.

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's was our conflict styles, and we thought that

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>we would just kind of bring that to the table

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>because when we did Love languages, we unpacked what ours were.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And Britt and I are so different, but also we

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>get along so well. So it's like just shows that

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<v Speaker 1>you can have different ways of well, you have different personalities,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you can have different ways of dealing with things, and

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you can still be really great together.

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because I'm so I was just thinking of

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>when you were talking about that, how opposite I am.

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm so competitive in every other aspect of my life,

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 2>like in sports or in trying to win the best

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>podcast whatever.

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>No, but I am.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>But I retreat completely with conflict. I don't know what

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 2>it is. I don't care to win in a fight.

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to win in like a verbal fight.

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Like if you put me in a competition where it

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was like a wrestling match, I'll wrestle to the death.

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.799
<v Speaker 2>But in a fight, when you say that, you're sitting

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 2>there and you're like thinking of your rebuttal and you're

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 2>thinking how you can and you'll never be wrong because

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be wrong. I in a fight

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 2>would rather even though I know I'm right, I would

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 2>rather just say you know what, You're right, I'm sorry,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I won't do it again. There might be like an

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>undertone that's passive aggressive, which I would hope.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't you know.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like me being like, yep, you're right, I do

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 2>everything wrong. I don't mean it really like that, but

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 2>it's probably there. But it's just because I would rather

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 2>get the argument over. I hate nothing more than I

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 2>would rather admit defeat and be like fuck, you know what, like, Okay,

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I did this wrong, Let's move on, let's get over it.

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I would rather have open dialogue where I'm

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.280
<v Speaker 1>mad at a partner, it's all out on the table,

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>than have someone be passive aggressive to me, because I'm like, well,

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I know that those feelings are there. I know that

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what you think of me, and I know that

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that's how you're feeling towards me, but you're not actually

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>verbalizing it. You're just gonna have cheap digs at me

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like that, to me is more hurtful than sitting down

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>and being like hey, I don't like this and it

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>being a very frank conversation. Let's fully unpack what the

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>five styles of conflict is. Number One, we've already done

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>volatile couples. That was what I am, so like we

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>can kind of like take that one off. Number two,

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>conflict avoids. We did kind of touch on conflict avoids.

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's the people who need to take some

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 1>time out to process their feelings, to really think about

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>the situation. Usually they're the ones that want to have

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>nice conversations once they've calmed down and don't want to

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>have conversations about conflict when when the conflict is in

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the heat of the moment. It's a really smart way

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of dealing with conflict.

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 2>There's only so long you can actually avoid a conflict anyway,

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>even if you are an avoid you can't do it forever.

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>And all that's going to do is perpetuate and grow

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>and turn into something ten times bigger than it ever was.

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 2>It's something that I have tried. I have to start

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>to work on as well. Is not put it off

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 2>so long because it just implodes and it festers. Fest

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>is such a great word for it. If there's something

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 2>in you that needs to be dealt with and something

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>in your partner that needs to be dealt with, and

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you're pushing it away, it's not going to disappear. It's

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>going to fester and brew and implode.

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Even though you may not be getting that instantaneous reassurance

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 1>from someone who's an avoid they're not avoiding you because

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't love you and they're not happy. They just

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>need a little bit more time to process than what

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you do. And I think, like from the question that

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>we had last week, where this person was much more

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>reactive and they needed to have that reassurance from their

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>partner straight away. I think that that's when you have

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to have that greater level of understanding of who your

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>partner is as a person and respect the fact that,

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like some people need to retreat after an argument and

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, doesn't mean that they're going to dump you,

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 1>just means that they need to process what the fuck

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>is going on? Absolutely, And then what Brittany is, which

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>is a validating couple. Did you want to unpack that

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more? Yeah, I mean, like we unpacked

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>what it is for me. But basically you're characterized by.

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Being easy and calm and and your cruise in a relationship.

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 2>You don't want the fighting, but you still need to

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>come to the table. You still need to contribute to

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>an argument and even though you don't want to, you

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>need to sort of step.

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Up to the plate. Then there are the two really

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>negative conflict styles. Now, the first one is hostile couples,

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think, like, you know, if you're in a

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.760
<v Speaker 1>relationship where you have a really really toxic conflict style,

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>because you feel like you're in this perpetual fighting cycle.

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>So hostile couples, they have a high level of defensiveness

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>on the part of both parties so that neither of

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 1>them are ever going to give in. Yeah, they're right,

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>it's their way on the highway. They don't want to

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>see it from the other person's view, and they're adamant

0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in being right now. The thing with hostile couples is

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that often hostile couples will stay together, but they'll stay

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>together in very unhappy marriages. And this will be like,

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're committed to each other, but there is

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 1>no happiness or positivity in their marriage because there's this

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like fine ratio that doctor John Gotman talks about and

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>he says, like, to have a great marriage or to

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 1>have a great long term relationship, it doesn't have to

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>be marriage. I don't know why I keep referring to that,

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know, to have a great long term relationship,

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be this five to one ratio, five

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>times positive, one time's negative. And people who are in

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>hostile relationships, the ratio is fully out of whack and

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>they have way more hostile engagements than what they do positive.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of criticism in these relationships and

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of like the terminology they use is you

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 2>always and you never and you don't and you won't,

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and it's very aggressive and it's very in your partner's face.

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>There's no listening. There's no listening to what you're a

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 2>partner is saying and changing your point of view. It's

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 2>like you've said it, this is right, and you're not

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna budge on that fact. And that is where it

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 2>really unravels, because there's no coming full circle and being like,

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you know what, like what you just

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>said is right. I didn't realize they do that. That's

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>not existent. It's like I'm right, you're wrong, and this.

0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Is never going to end.

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And when two couples are like it is explosive and

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 2>neither of them are ever going to admit defeat. And

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.800
<v Speaker 2>this is where the relationship unwraaled.

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>And like Britz said, this idea of like you never, So,

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for example, if you're upset about your partner not doing

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 1>enough housework, instead of having conversation which is like, you know,

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't really feel supported. I would love it if

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you did this more, coming into that conversation saying you

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>never help me, you never do anything because you're lazy well, yeah,

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you get on the back foot straight away. Absolutely. It's

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't open up a dialogue for any sort of

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>constructive conversation. And that is a real like keynote of

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 1>being a hostile couple. But like we said, hostile couples

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 1>often stay together. They're just really fucking unhappy. Sounds great anyway.

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Number five is hostile detached couples and hostile detached couples

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>they will not work out. That is like this is

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>joom gloom and you're going to break up town.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's never a resolution, there's never ever a clear victor.

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 2>It's always just like a stalemate and let's kick this

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>back up again next week. There's highly emotional, highly aggressive

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>style of fighting, and that is one hundred percent my

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 2>way of the highway one high to present, toxic and

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.439
<v Speaker 2>often more than not will not work out.

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it says that the hostile detached couples, these

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.319
<v Speaker 1>couples are like two armies engaged in mutually frustrating and

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 1>lonely stand off with no clear victory, only a constant stalemate.

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>They snipe at one another during conflict, and the error

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>is full of emotional detachment and resignation. So this is like,

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the worst one, and this is when things

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>will really come to an end in a relationship. You

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>can't stay in a hostile, detached relationship and have any

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of happiness. You just feel completely invalidated and unloved.

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 2>When I think about, you know, my past relationships and

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 2>the fighting and the arguments and how that all went down.

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I think one thing that I really struggled with was

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 2>my partner was very aggressive and very defensive. The defensiveness

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 2>was probably the biggest characteristic of a relationship. That was

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 2>obviously because he was a sociopath. He was marrying someone

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 2>else at the same time. He had this double life,

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:57.839
<v Speaker 2>and it's very common in that situation to have defensiveness

0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and to deflect and put that back on you. So

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I struggled with that for a long time, and maybe

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 2>that's why I became a little bit more suppressed in

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 2>my fighting style, and I was just a bit like accepting,

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 2>more accepting than I should be, because I was always

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>made to feel like I was the one starting the

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 2>problem and I was the one in the wrong, and

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 2>he did this because of me, and everything he did

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and he cheated because of me, and he was marrying

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 2>someone else because of me. It got to the point

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 2>where he was so defensive on everything that I was

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.839
<v Speaker 2>always like, I'm so sorry that I made you do that,

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.919
<v Speaker 2>And that was something I really struggled in with my relationship.

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 2>So I think defensiveness and that is actually something we're

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about. It's one of the characteristics of

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 2>something called the Four Horsemen, which is really interesting. Laura

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 2>talked about it at the start, but we will go

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 2>through that. But that was something that I really really

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>struggled with and it's the main characteristic that I've ever

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 2>had in any relationship.

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting as well, right, Like you like,

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't just acquire a fighting style. It comes from

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>like your childhood as well. So like the way that

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you react to conflict when you're a kid, or the

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>way that you react to conflict with your parents, or

0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the way you see your parents react to conflict, how

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>they fight with each other, all of that influences the

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 1>way that you are able to relate to your partner

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>as you get older. And I think like when you

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.760
<v Speaker 1>actually unpack the way your parents behave and your parents

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>have conversation verse, then the way that you do it.

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 1>There is always these parallels where you have these similarities

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>because like we're taught, this is learned behavior, and it's

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 1>learned behavior over so many years. So when I think

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:25.839
<v Speaker 1>about myself sometimes I've definitely dealt with defensiveness in relationships.

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 1>But like for me, the one thing that I had

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:30.799
<v Speaker 1>to like really curve and be super aware of is

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>passive aggressiveness. And because I think that I don't see

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>my parents doing it that much anymore because they're not

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship with each other. They've been divorced since

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I was three, But the way that they communicated my

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>whole childhood was so passive aggressive, and I was really

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>really attuned to it. Like you know, you think that

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes these things fly under the radar for children, but

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>it really doesn't. So the four horsemen, there are four

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>different personality traits. And I don't know if you've ever

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>heard the four horseman expression before, but basically it's an

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>apocalyptic metaphor which depicts the end of times in the

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's saying, if you have these foretraits in your relationship,

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>then it's doom, gloom and break uptown for you. So

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the number one is something that I think we can

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 1>all relate to and that's criticism. Like, there's nothing worse

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>than being in a relationship where you feel like you're

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>constantly being criticized by your partner. And whether it's small

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.919
<v Speaker 1>things or big things, but feeling like what you're doing

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 1>is not good enough really leaves you feeling deflated and

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 1>really leaves you feeling like you're not valued. I know.

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Like for Matt, criticism is the one that he struggles

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>with the absolute worst. And I have to be really

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>careful about how I deliver my critiquing of things that

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>he's done wrong, but it has.

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 2>To be constructive criticism. And it makes such a big difference.

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Totally because I know that, like, he will become defensive

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.439
<v Speaker 1>if he feels like he's being criticized and it makes

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 1>him feel useless, you know, And I think that it

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>makes everyone feel useless. Criticism makes you feel like you're

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>not good enough, or you haven't done a good enough job,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 1>or you've let someone down. And no one wants to

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like that, especially not constantly in a relationship.

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>No, And they do say you have to learn to

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 2>differentiate between a complaint and a criticism. So I'm going

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>to give you a little example. Complaint I was scared

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 2>when you were running late and didn't call me. I

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>thought we had agreed that we would do that for

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 2>each other. That's the complaint. That's a nice way to

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 2>do it. Criticism. You never think about how your behavior

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 2>is affecting other people. I don't believe you are that forgetful.

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 2>You're just selfish. You never think of others. They're literally

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 2>saying the same thing, but one is so aggressive and

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:25.360
<v Speaker 2>is not going to get you anywhere, and one is

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 2>constructive criticism, where it's like, you know, I was worried,

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 2>so you need to call me because I want to

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 2>feel safe in the relationship, not like you're a selfish pig.

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, sometimes it's frustrating to have the same conversations

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>about the same thing over and over and over again.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.879
<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that's important to take away

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>from this conversation is that in every single relationship, you

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>are going to have a couple of key things that

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you argue about that probably will never go away. You know,

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like you're never going to resolve every fight that happens

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>in your relationship. Maybe you guys argue about money. Maybe

0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you will argue about money until the day you die.

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you argue about the fact that your partner doesn't

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 1>quite do enough washing. Maybe you will argue about that

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>for the till the day you die. I think that

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>there are things in relationships where sometimes you will never

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 1>resolve them completely. They're always going to be there, But

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. You just have to like pick your battles

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and live with which things are acceptable and which things aren't,

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 1>which kind of leads us into the next horseman, which

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 1>is number two, contempt, the worst one. Yeah, like, okay,

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you cannot treat your partner with contempt and expect the

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship to ever work out. And I think we see

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>this a lot in relationships after children are born, and

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 1>this feeling of like you don't do anything to help me,

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 1>or the other way around. Maybe it's from the husband

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 1>to the wife, where it's this conversation of like, well,

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I work hard and you're just home with the kids

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>all day and you don't do anything, And it's this

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>like lack of recognition for the unpaid labor. And I've

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.919
<v Speaker 1>seen it with my friends. I've seen it in relationships

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 1>where the husband who goes to work, who doesn't see

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the amount of work that the mum is doing, doesn't

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 1>respect to the amount of work that the mum is doing,

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 1>and there's this real lack of appreciation between the two

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>parties and this feeling of contempt of like you're just

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>spending the money, you're not trying hard enough, and I

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 1>think that that's like a really dangerous place to be

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 1>in, and there needs to be this open conversation and this

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>real acceptance that actually, you know, both people are trying

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>really hard, and like, just because you work hard doesn't

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 1>mean that you own busy. Like you don't get to

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>be the person who says, oh, I'm the busiest, Like

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to both be the busiest. That's that's totally acceptable,

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:35.319
<v Speaker 1>and one person feeling stressed out doesn't invalidate the other

0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 1>person feeling stressed out.

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Body language, if you think of things like eye rolling, yeah,

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 2>turning your back on them, waving your hand in their face, like,

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it's very dismissive and it's definitely the worst one. There's

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 2>never ever going to be a positive outcome with contempt.

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 2>There was actually some really interesting research that did show

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>that couples that are contemptuous of each other are more

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 2>likely to suffer from illnesses like just like the common

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:01.720
<v Speaker 2>cold and things like that because they are immune systems weaker.

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that's amazing. It's very powerful how you feel

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 2>and how you speak, and the stresses in your life.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 1>What it can do to your body, like harboring hate.

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like just so much negativity and so much stress

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 2>that your body just goes into a meltdown.

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>It's well, I'm going to get that. I guess the thing.

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we actually touched on this a little

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 1>bit in the Positivity episode, how you can't just will

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 1>yourself healthy. So I don't think that you can will

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself sick either. But I think the interesting thing that

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:30.279
<v Speaker 1>actually is and came from these research studies, is that

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's having a higher cortisol in your system, so that

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:36.320
<v Speaker 1>stress hormone, which is what makes you sick. So constantly

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>living in this fight or flight stage of a relationship

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:43.359
<v Speaker 1>where you feel that anxiety and you're constantly on edge,

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:46.240
<v Speaker 1>never get to settle into being happy because you're always fighting.

0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It's the heightened cortisole in your body that actually makes

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you sick. Yeah, what just lowers your immune system? There

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.799
<v Speaker 1>you go, Okay. Three.

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 2>The third one is defensiveness. We've already touched on that.

0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I just spoke about it. It's just where you're going

0:54:59.880 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 2>to constantly feel invalidated, unjustified. I don't think we need

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 2>to go into it too much. We've all been defensive

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:09.320
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship. We've all been with someone that's very defensive.

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 1>We know what that's like. Yeah, And I guess, like

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>with defensiveness, like the thing is is that they're invalidating

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 1>your feelings because there's too busy trying to figure out

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 1>a rebuttal to tell you why they're right or why

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong. So like that's definitely like the hallmark of defensiveness.

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>The last one on the list as well is stone walling,

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and we touched on that at the beginning when we

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>were talking about avoidant personality types and how being an

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 1>avoidant personality types is different to like being someone who's

0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:36.840
<v Speaker 1>stone Walls. So I have been in a relationship before.

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 1>It's the relationship I've touched on a couple of times

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 1>in this podcast where you know, we're together for two

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>years and he had a lot of narcissistic personality tendencies

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of cheating went on, and the way

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that he would punish me for an argument or the

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>way he would punish me, even if he had been

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the one who had had the bad behavior, But the

0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>way he would punish me would be to completely ignore me,

0:55:56.520 --> 0:56:00.640
<v Speaker 1>turn his phone off, ignore me, not give me a validation.

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't hear from him for two three days, and

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it put me into such a state of distress because

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I didn't know if we were together

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 1>or we weren't together. But I think that like giving

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 1>someone the silent treatment, is such a cruel form of

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.560
<v Speaker 1>torture worse, and it takes such control away from the

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 1>other person, and it really just invalidates everything that they're feeling.

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like it's a very immature form of fighting.

0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Stonewalling.

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like as what you do when you're a

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:29.320
<v Speaker 2>teenager in your early twenties, where you'll literally I remember

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 2>being in a relationship and they were stonewalling me. They

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't respond to me for days. We were still together

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:36.799
<v Speaker 2>and it was fine. Then four days later they come

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:38.919
<v Speaker 2>back and it's like it's just what was normally done

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 2>that just wouldn't fly.

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Even even the worst of people usually say I can't

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 2>talk to you right now. Usually they give you a message,

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:48.480
<v Speaker 2>but ston't complete stonewalling and complete like shutting down in

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:49.240
<v Speaker 2>silent treatment.

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I find it a very immature form of fighting. Yeah,

0:56:52.640 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 1>And I guess like some people can use it as

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a really like purposeful and manipulative tool, like I know

0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:00.320
<v Speaker 1>in my relationship, like he used it as way of

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>punishing me, like that's what that was, Whereas I think

0:57:03.040 --> 0:57:06.759
<v Speaker 1>other people use it as almost like a I physically

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>cannot fucking fathom having this conversation right now, like I'm

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 1>so emotionally flooded, I just need to remove myself. But

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:15.840
<v Speaker 1>they're not thinking about how that makes their other partner

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>feel at all. And you know, removing yourself from a

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>situation for days and torturing your partner is not acceptable either.

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's important to kind of figure out

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is your partner doing it intentionally to punish you, or

0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>are they doing it as a reaction to something. Either way,

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 1>neither of them are great, but one of them is

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>slightly better than the other.

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 2>The best thing that you can do in this situation is, Okay,

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to talk to them, you don't want

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to deal with it. You walk away, go for a walk,

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 2>go into another room, read a book, do a meditation,

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 2>go to the gym, do anything for a few hours

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 2>to get your thoughts together, to calm down, to lower

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 2>your heart rate, to think the process through, to be like,

0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe I am wrong, maybe I'm not wrong, and then

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:54.919
<v Speaker 2>go back and approach the situation in a mature, respectful

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 2>and calm way. And the key word here is calm.

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, guys, they're the main key areas. So they're

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 2>the five conflict stars, and they're the four characteristics that

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 2>really really characterize what creates a destructive relationship or what

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 2>creates a positive relationship. Just to tie it up at

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 2>the end, guys, just some things to remember and take

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 2>away from this is except that conflict is inevitable. It's

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. It's fine, it's not the end of

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 2>the world. Remember that conflict can in fact be beneficial.

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 2>We all need it at some point and we can

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 2>all learn a lot from it. And that is a

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 2>big one. Just remember to listen and be accepting that

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe you're wrong and you can learn from that. Always

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.960
<v Speaker 2>use neutral language. Don't come at them aggressively. It's not

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 2>you do this.

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>You never do this. You're an asshole. Don't do that.

0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:41.120
<v Speaker 2>So really think about the way you're talking, especially when

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:42.160
<v Speaker 2>you're upset.

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>And one of the most important ones.

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Is agree to disagree. It's okay to, in the end

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 2>have different opinions and different feelings about something, but you

0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 2>need to get to the point where you're like, Okay,

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I see why you feel this. I don't agree with it,

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 2>but I'm validating it and I'm okay with it and

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.800
<v Speaker 2>let's move on. So agree to disagree is the biggest one.

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, like the last thing I want to say

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>in regards like to wrap this all up. You know,

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to talk about all the different conflict styles.

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 1>It's easy to talk about all the things that you

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.200
<v Speaker 1>do wrong in a relationship, or all the way that

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 1>we like negatively communicate. But I just think like one

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 1>of the most important take homes is kindness. Like you

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>can become so close to your partner that you treat

0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:22.000
<v Speaker 1>them in a really unkind way, Like you might even

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>treat them in a way that you wouldn't treat your

0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>friends or your family. You know, you can say things

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and behave in a way because you are so close

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<v Speaker 1>to them that's actually your worst reflection of yourself. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really important to remember that like relationships

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<v Speaker 1>that are happy, in relationships that will last the lot

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<v Speaker 1>like a lifetime, or you know, will be fulfilling and positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Are relationships where there's a lot of kindness and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mutual respect for each other and you treat

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<v Speaker 1>them how you want to be treated. Absolutely. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the most simple and sometimes like benign thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like treat people the way you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be treated them. But it's not. It's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just fucking be a good person, But it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, I think we can forget to be

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<v Speaker 1>kind to the people that we love and the something

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<v Speaker 1>that makes them feel appreciated. It makes them feel validated,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes them feel safe in the relationship. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go text your partner if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and be like, I appreciate you, Like those things

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<v Speaker 1>are really important and cute. You need to show that

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<v Speaker 1>every day, all right, guys, you know that we never

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<v Speaker 1>finished an episode without our suck and our sweet our

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<v Speaker 1>highlight and our low light of each and every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I love? I love that we've

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<v Speaker 1>had so many people right in to say that now

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<v Speaker 1>they do suck and sweet with like their partner or

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<v Speaker 1>with their kids. Yeah, it's the best. That's how it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We grew up, my family grew up doing around the

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<v Speaker 2>dinner table at night. We would eat dinner and would

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<v Speaker 2>do our suck and sweet. So I love that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are doing that now, just like makes you appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the little good bits and also some of the bad

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<v Speaker 2>bit But anyway, my suck straight up would be just

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<v Speaker 2>that I've got appendicitis on my little getaway because just

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<v Speaker 2>really through a spanner in the works really ruined it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just feel like I didn't even get what

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted. But looking on the bright side, my sweet

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<v Speaker 2>is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got two.

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<v Speaker 2>One is that I just got to finally see my

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<v Speaker 2>little nephew, and I was really worried. He's only about

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<v Speaker 2>to turn three, and I was really worried that after

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<v Speaker 2>a year at that age he wouldn't remember me as much,

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<v Speaker 2>and because I don't get to see him often. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was really nice to see him. He was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>he remembered me. It was nice to see my brother

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time in a year. Said that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had one other sweet. I did have one

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<v Speaker 2>more than I just think it's funny. It's not really sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just going to tell you anyway. I was

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<v Speaker 2>at work last week and this guy was wielding a

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<v Speaker 2>patient was wielding and he I had a mask on

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, because you have to. I think I had

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<v Speaker 2>a hairnet too. And he was about thirty three. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a couple of meters away through a glass window

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<v Speaker 2>because I was setting up the computer. I hadn't gone

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<v Speaker 2>in yet, and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked He's like looking at me, and then he turns

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<v Speaker 1>to the wardsman and he goes, is that Brittany Hockley?

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<v Speaker 2>This is a rough looking, big beard, covered in tats,

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<v Speaker 2>earrings in his ear He looked rough and the wardsman

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, yeah it is. And he looks up

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<v Speaker 2>at me and he's like, you're pretty Hockley and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like and I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and he goes celebrity. And I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be like, oh, you know, I love football, watched you

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bachelor with nik comms whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is the roughest thirty five year old guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, I fucking love your podcast and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like what.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you listen to my podcast? Like the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that we made for like twenty four year old women.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? He was like, I love

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<v Speaker 1>it so much. I'm the biggest fan.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I don't know if you're taking

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<v Speaker 2>a pist or not, and he's like, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, that's what I know you from. Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>like a genuinely frothy podcast. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>was not expecting you to say that, but I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait to Laura, I freaking love like the age demographic

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<v Speaker 2>of people that we get messaging us who listen to

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, Like, you know, we have girls who are

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen years old, and we have women who are sixty

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<v Speaker 2>years old, like it is such and we have thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five year old middle aged men too, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five year old middle age like tuckies.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just like such an amazing and diverse listenership.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess, like the thing is, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can all learn stuff. Guys can learn stuff from a female.

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<v Speaker 1>Really more men should probably be listening to this, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can all learn stuff about like how to better

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<v Speaker 1>navigate our relationships. I mean, obviously we don't just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about relationships to this episode has been a really heavy

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<v Speaker 1>relationship one, but I love it, Like I feel so

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<v Speaker 1>privileged that we get to make this podcast. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>freaking best. Okay it what's yours? Okay? So my suck

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<v Speaker 1>and my sweet are both child related. So sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who finds children boring. That would have been me.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been me five years ago. But now

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<v Speaker 1>my entire life is just babies, babies, babies. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>my suck for this week is that we found out

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<v Speaker 1>you know how I've been saying Marley's been sick and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about her being six since September. So

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<v Speaker 1>I found out why she's sick. My child is lacked no,

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<v Speaker 1>so that would explained diarrhea, ed explains a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically what can happen, which I had no idea about,

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<v Speaker 1>is that when a child gets sick with something like

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<v Speaker 1>gastro or a really bad virus, they can have a response,

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<v Speaker 1>like an inflammatory response reaction where they get analogy a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden So she never used to be allergic to lactose,

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<v Speaker 1>but she got so sick, but she're so sick that

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<v Speaker 1>now she does. So we're waiting to actually find out

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a proper allergy or whether it's just lactose intolerant.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's been started on this lactose intolerance diet and

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<v Speaker 1>like she's a completely different child. She was doing three

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<v Speaker 1>explosive diarrhea shits a night, usually one in the bath,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking like all over the cot, all over

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<v Speaker 1>the sheets, green, frothy, like next level Exorcis style diarrhea

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<v Speaker 1>for three weeks plus. Also just coughing a coffin, coughing constantly, coughing, cough,

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<v Speaker 1>coughing so much. Like we couldn't figure out what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on with her, so we thought that she still

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<v Speaker 1>had the flow from September. We thought she had like

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<v Speaker 1>this gastrobug. Anyway, it turns out I've been poisoning my

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<v Speaker 1>child with the well, I mean, at least you know now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, right. Anyway, it's so hard with kids because

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<v Speaker 1>they can't tell you what's wrong, and then you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to do this like weird process of elimination.

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<v Speaker 2>You're sweet, my sweet. My sweet for the week is.

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<v Speaker 1>That we got Marley's daycare photos back. My child has

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<v Speaker 1>just got so much sad. I spend so much time

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<v Speaker 1>laughing about these daycare photos, like every other person's kid

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<v Speaker 1>is just sitting there being like adorable and cute and

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<v Speaker 1>normal and three and like one and a half year old.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's my daughter with like her dress sultraally

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<v Speaker 1>put over the side of her shoulder, and she's like

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<v Speaker 1>pulling this little face. I turned my money on my

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<v Speaker 1>mummy's on Instagram. It's just outrageous. She turns.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to go and look at the photo on

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<v Speaker 2>Laura's page. She's every kid is like literally just being

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<v Speaker 2>a dirty little kid. She's turned, she's smack bang in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle. She's turned side on. She's doing like the

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<v Speaker 2>influence of skinny arm pos. The dress has gone off

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<v Speaker 2>her shoulder, and she's eyeing down the barrel of the

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<v Speaker 2>camera with the most like I don't know off if

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen year a month old can have a seductive look.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's like, she looks like surmising. She's like smiling

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<v Speaker 1>with my eyes but not smiless. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to do this. It's so funny. I loved it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. She's literally one and a half going on seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite photo of her ever. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it, go and have a look. It's very very funny. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was someone who thought I was like, oh, daycare photos,

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to pay for that? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we need daycare for it's best photo. And I am

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<v Speaker 1>now like, like, my kids' school photos are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be my pride and joy, so send them out to

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<v Speaker 1>all the family. It's so weird. I never thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be this sort of mum. I always

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<v Speaker 1>just thought i'd be like a little bit of it,

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<v Speaker 1>like eh, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit aloof They're just like, yeah, cool, get your

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<v Speaker 2>photos done.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you need them. Who needs photos? But

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<v Speaker 1>I am so obsessed. It's just really funny how you

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<v Speaker 1>turn out to be a very different type of mum

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<v Speaker 1>to what you think. And I think there's people out

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<v Speaker 1>there who probably thought they'd be way more children relaxed,

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<v Speaker 1>but they actually end up like helicopter parents. Yeah, super

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<v Speaker 1>anal and like you know, you know, sugar. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not the type of parent I thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. That's for sure. I'm obsessed with my child.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, guys, that is it's for today's episode. We hope

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<v Speaker 2>you learned something. We hope you enjoyed it. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of info in this one, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's really important and I hope you guys all go

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<v Speaker 2>and do an argument style quiz to see what you

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<v Speaker 2>are because it might actually surprise yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really interesting to unpack some of the

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<v Speaker 1>more serious parts of relationships. And obviously, like conflict is

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<v Speaker 1>something that it's un avoidable, we like to try and

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<v Speaker 1>avoid it, we like to not talk about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really interesting to unpack that and we

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<v Speaker 1>hope you guys learned something from it. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>love the episode, you know all the drills, please go

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<v Speaker 1>and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't already done that. We love that so much because

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<v Speaker 1>we need the ego boost, guys. That's what helps us

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<v Speaker 1>grow guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are one of the little scoundrels that

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<v Speaker 2>haven't left us a.

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<v Speaker 1>Review yet, where you at. Also, if you haven't subscribed

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast as well, Like I know that these

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<v Speaker 1>things just seem like boring housekeeping things, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>do love the pod, it's actually one. It means you

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<v Speaker 1>get the episodes first, so that it drops into your

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<v Speaker 1>inbox first and you'll be notified each week when you

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<v Speaker 1>comes out. But it also is Yeah, like Brits said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important for us to be able to like

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<v Speaker 1>help grow this little community and for people to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to find us. And yeah, it's just you supporting

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<v Speaker 1>the free content that you love. And I, on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>have to run because I have to get to work.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, you know the drill. Tell your mom,

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<v Speaker 1>tell your dad, tellto tell everybody because I share the

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<v Speaker 1>love one job shed alough because we love that. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what her name is singing here And so y'all

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<v Speaker 1>let it