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Speaker 1: I can confirm we've got Matt Cunningham from Sky News

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Speaker 1: on the line. Good morning to your match morning, Katie.

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Speaker 1: It's been an interesting twenty four hours match. You know

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Speaker 1: from your perspective, Mate, where are things that with this

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Speaker 1: shared scandal?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the government was hoping it was going

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Speaker 2: to blow over in a day. I think I'd probably

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Speaker 2: been mistaken because I think it's got a little way

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Speaker 2: to run yet. I thought that was an interesting interview

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Speaker 2: you had with the Deputy Chief Minister this morning, Katie.

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Speaker 2: And it just still appears to be that one key

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Speaker 2: question that isn't being answered, and that is around whether

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Speaker 2: these shares were declared and the conflict of interest was

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Speaker 2: declared in relation to these shares, in relation to any

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Speaker 2: cabinet discussions that were held over alcohol policy, particularly in

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Speaker 2: Central Australian our spring. I know that there have been

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Speaker 2: attempts to sort of, you know, place a mantics over

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Like that Stronger Futures legislation expired in

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Speaker 2: July twenty twenty two. Now, yes, the Commonwealth Government allowed

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Speaker 2: it to expire in consultation with the Northern Territory government.

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Speaker 2: There was an expectation in some quarters, in many quarters

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Speaker 2: that the Northern Territory government were stepping at that point

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Speaker 2: and put alcohol bands in place, as they have in

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Speaker 2: place in many remote vidimous communities under MPT legislation for

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Speaker 2: a period at least until they could work out exactly

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Speaker 2: what the next step would be. Now we know that

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Speaker 2: didn't happen, We know that alcohol was immediately allowed to return,

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Speaker 2: and we know that there were some pretty significant consequences

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Speaker 2: around that. So the question is, are now any asked

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Speaker 2: a chance of paper. The one key one who doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem able to answer is the one relating to the

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Speaker 2: declaration of conflicts of interest within the cabinet. Now, when

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Speaker 2: I asked either or or at the press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 2: she said that she couldn't say that she would called

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Speaker 2: champing taker and making that declaration. I heard you asked

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Speaker 2: him that question several times today and now he's saying

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Speaker 2: that it would be breaking the law to that and

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Speaker 2: a confidence. So I'm not sure what the situation is

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Speaker 2: with evil Lawler yesterday because she seemed happy to answer

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Speaker 2: the question, Well, this is the thing that creates a

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Speaker 2: difficult situation for the government, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: It certainly does, and you know I did ask him

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Speaker 1: that are you saying then that the Chief Minister has

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Speaker 1: broken the law by by you know, saying that she

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Speaker 1: couldn't recall And you know he's sort of backtracked then,

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Speaker 1: but you know your fundament like you're so right, The

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Speaker 1: fundamental thing that still remains outstanding is whether he did

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Speaker 1: disclose that to his cabinet colleagues when these discussions were

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Speaker 1: taking place. Now, I've spoken to a labor insider off

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Speaker 1: air this morning who has said that, you know, an

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Speaker 1: elected member that's got a conflict of interest. I owned

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Speaker 1: shares in a company and the cabinet is discussing or

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Speaker 1: making a decision that involves the said company, must declare

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Speaker 1: that interest and must leave the room where the meeting

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Speaker 1: is held.

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Speaker 2: And I think, now I'm thinking off the top of

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Speaker 2: my head now, but I'm pretty sure that Nicole Manison,

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Speaker 2: when she was in the cabinet declared a conflict of

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Speaker 2: interest because her brother was on the board of the

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Speaker 2: turf clubs and from the decision around around the grand

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Speaker 2: stand at the turf club. So this is even if

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Speaker 2: you're not directly the minister involved, if you're part of

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Speaker 2: those cabinet discussions, the requirement is on you to make

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Speaker 2: that declaration and then remove yourself from those deliberations if

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Speaker 2: you have that conflict, and that's what we're trying to

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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of. Did Chancey Cake say, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I've got these metcash shares, therefore I have a conflict,

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Speaker 2: Therefore I'm not going to be involved in this conversation Now,

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Speaker 2: He's made plenty of public commentary around this issue, and

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Speaker 2: his usually being put pretty forcefully, So I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we need to dig into that further.

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Speaker 2: And I'm actually going to have to go because we're

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Speaker 2: about to do that now because the CLP is just

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Speaker 2: walking in to hold a press conference.

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Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham, we'll talk to you. So that is Matt

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Speaker 1: Cunningham there from Sky New